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Guy’s
Struggling here did we have any one who had passed mark’s tonight?
Johansen the worst i have seen playing in a Celtic Jersey in Europe in my life how the Feck he lasted the whole game is be-honed me. Muck
Thought I’d catch up before I hit the scratcher
Someone’s stated we should invest in scouting and youth
I personally believe our Scouting Dept is one of our biggest failures
For every VVD or Wanyama, I could give you 10 dismal failures – costing us a fortune
We have a football budget of over £35m – and for that should be doing much much better in my opinion
Scratch that. It was 3-1 at home wasn’t it. Bah!
GORDYBHOY64 on 25TH AUGUST 2015 10:03 PM
m6bhoy,
I have had many more worse nights supporting Celtic than tonight
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It’s not just tonight that has sickened me. It’s the realisation of what we now are and will remain as long as the current shower of dullards remain in control. I remember when the plc was there to support the team. Now it is the other way round. That’s not the club I was brought up to follow. Sure they wear green and white hoops (though not tonight obviously) and play at Celtic Park but that’s not the point. Everything within the club has to be sacrificed at the altar of the balanced bank statement. Everything else including what happens on the park is secondary to the plc objectives. The club has lost its heart and soul and me sadly.
Desmond out – anybody still in?
Evening all,
Well we made a complete hash of that.I have real problems believing that we so easily beaten by Malmo (FFS, Malmo!!!). The only players, in my opinion, to even get pass marks were Craig Gordon and Jamsie. What the heck happened to our midfield??
Our only attacks came from the right side…nothing was coming from the left and I put that down to Ronny picking Charlie ahead of Izzy. I know Charlie did his best but Izzy has the speed to get down the wing and link up with the left midfielder (ie Armstrong) while Mulgrew doesn’t. This left us completely lob-sided and ineffectual.
If we have CL ambitions we have to prove it by paying for players who have the ability and experience to play at that level. Cant see that happening going by recent experiences.
Ah well, there’s always next year in the meantime its back to SPL football and hope we can do something in the Europa League.
Hail Hail
It’s harsh to call for Ronny out when that was our first defeat in 6 months!
Sadly it was just a step too far for where we’re at right now and the environment in which we operate.
We’ve no divine right to win a game but if you go down, go down fighting. It was not there tonight. Better team won no excuses. Disappointed doesn’t quite cover it.
http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/match-report-weak-celtic-blunder-out-of-champions-league/
Match report.
Circa 30million in potential revenue flushed down the lav over 2 seasons. In most if not all business, apart from Celtic PLC, this would result in a number of pin stripe suited arses being booted out the door. The PLC strategy is clearly failing.
Spirit of Arthur Lee
Couldn’t agree more.
Last post was about a year ago and attracted the usual and expected responses, which ,also as usual, didn’t bother me. I call it as I see it and appreciate that others do the same.
Then I questioned RD’s style of play and how well it was suited to the players available.
He has certainly made more advances than I expected and has earned a degree of respect.
My basic opinion has not changed, he is not up to the job.
His mantra is “when we play to our (my) system and at our best we are unbeatable”.
No-one is unbeatable.
When we don’t play at our best within that system, he doesn’t seem to have any options.
NL was very good and quick to change formations and tactics when his starting line-up wasn’t working.
I can’t think of any successful manager at a high level who did not have the ability to be flexible, to see other tactics, to identify other solutions.
RD’s system, when it works, is fine, but he is, in my opinion, a one-trick pony.
Yes many players (all, apart from Craig Gordon)) didn’t measure up tonight.
My firm conviction remains that Celtic is a far better team tha Malmö and that our abysmal failure owes more to our manager’s failings than the players although they can’t be absolved
Craig Gordon plus 10 invisible men ain’t gonna win much.
As usual, no apologies and best wishes to all.
Alex
Sick listening to the baying pack on here tonight.We had a perfectly good goal chalked off ,which could have won us the tie,but hardly a poster has mentioned it.More concerned with casting blame.Felt this way for a long time now,the supposed Celtic fans on here dont deserve to be called that hallowed name.A shower of whingeing assholes.I amm sorry to leave the site,its not a flounce,its disgust at the way some fans on here react to a defeat.
Had enough of listening to them.To all the real fans,HAIL HAIL.To the impostors,FEK OFF.
vespacide
I mostly agree with you :)
Bitton and Johansen parade around Scottish football most weeks without being challenged (literally), allowing them as many touches of the ball as they need before controlling it and finally making a pass.
Malmo had the wherewithal to press them both into making decisions they’re not either used to, or capable of, i.e. quick decisions with quick feet and quick brains.
They were both shown up tonight as players from a bygone era, when players could stroll 30 yards up the pitch without being tackled, if they can’t adapt, they’re not good enough.
Trying to be pragmatic.
I really think we need to rethink our scouting system.
Are the Plc board culpable for tonight? Partly, but so are the players and management. Realistically, we have a limited budget so the prospect of us signing players in excess of £5m is pie in the sky no matter how much we want that to happen.
We play in what is widely recognised as a footballing backwater yet many of our recent signings have come from Dun Utd. GMS, Armstrong and Ciftci aren’t bad players but it’s a real gamble hoping that they’re good enough to make a palpable difference in Europe.
Our incomers from abroad have been a mixed bag. We’ve uncovered some real gems in Wanyama and VVD but there’s been an awful lot of dross too.
It’s time to broaden our scouting network and dig out the diamonds.
Jackson Irvine is getting rave revues
Bankiebhoy1
Your point is very valid, but what disappoints me was that the team showed no character after this. Not another shot on goals. Sitting watching the game at 2-0 down. I was thinking we still had a chance, just get 1 goal and they will start to panic…..how wrong I was!
The jersey has shrunk from Champions League to Europa League size.
HH
CRC
67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS on 25TH AUGUST 2015 10:20 PM
clunks on 25th August 2015 10:09 pm
I think you disagree with points 1 and 2 !!!
Hey ho
Just thought of something else – We are meant to be a fit team – thought they were fitter
67ECW
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Sorry, very frustrated tonight and I lept on your post and tore you to pieces which was very uncool and very un celtic lik indeed.
Please accept my apologies and a cyber pint for you as well.
You are right though they looked fitter. Or was it that they wanted it just that little bit more than we did. Despite losing 2 goals in 10 mins. they still played with no fear and FOUGHT to the end.
We gave the games away.
No fight, no desire.
No balls.
Thats what hurts the most.
We went out without gritting our teeth and getting ball deep in about them (great phrase eh!!)
Sometimes when we get beat, im not too bothered, because we have played well and that’s just how it goes at times.
An inspired keeper, bad luck in front of goal or bad breaks…..sometimes the gods are not kind.
Sometimes im angry after we win a game because of our performance.
Those games when too many things are poor.
That was one of those ones tonight but without the win but do you know what……im not angry tonight.
There’s a few of our bhoys went through some awful stuff lately and really….this fitba stuff is not that important after all.
Dallas Dallas
I reckon it would be difficult as history has shown to get that type of player on our budget in the slow lane, he’s beyond our salary now. Samaras went to WBA on a wage rise.
Players of Cambiaso’s ilk won’t come to Scotland, yet Celtic have better players than Malmo, and some were even boasting that six, were Scottish?
Are we going backwards?
Ach well Europa League it is then. A shame but thats the level we are at. No point getting stuffed in the CL it would be embarrassing and counter productive. This is not Ronnys fault the players were just rubbish tonight and I believe Ronny will learn from this and we will come back better and stronger. I am a bit worried about his love for Johansen tho but surely soon even he will see what more and more fans are starting to notice. I still love the Celtic tho and am already looking forward to the next game if only to get this one out of the system. Hail Hail bhoys and always keep the faith.
antipodean red (10:04pm): “ten teams played in tonight’s qualifiers, only one team did not score”
Equally, only one team who played away in the second leg succeeded in qualifying tonight, and that was Valencia, who play in the best league in Europe. Celtic play in the second best league in Scotland.
Summa of Sammi (10:13pm): “to ask them to Zonally Mark at Corners was…….”
I don’t believe for a second that a professional footballer would fail to pick up or challenge an attacking opponent at a corner kick because he had been told to play zonally. If the players had performed on the pitch at a level commensurate with their earnings, then Celtic would have won tonight. Ronny put a team out that should have been able to win the tie comfortably against considerably less well resourced opponents. The fact that the players failed to win the tie is entirely the fault of the players.
It is somewhat ironic that Virgil has earned his “promotion” after such a gross failure!
So, on to the Europa League…
As things stand it looks like we could get either of the following juicy draws:
Our old friends Villarreal
Celtic
Legia Warsaw
Rapid Vienna
or
German cracks Borussia Dortmund
Celtic
(Do the) Lech Poznan
Our southern “parent” club, Southampton
…now wouldn’t that last one be ironic? Imagine Fraser Forster, Victor Wanyama and Virgil van Dijk all lining up against us!
Our only attacks came from the right side…nothing was coming from the left and I put that down to Ronny picking Charlie ahead of Izzy. I know Charlie did his best but Izzy has the speed to get down the wing and link up with the left midfielder (ie Armstrong) while Mulgrew doesn’t. This left us completely lob-sided and ineffectual. –
Just an example of what I was talking about.Izzy has been slaughtered on here,unjustly,and quite a few going for Charlie.to play tonight.Now they are in total reverse.FFS.Enough.Goodbye this time.
See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/malmo-v-celtic-live-updates/comment-page-28/#comment-2662932
HT
Cos he would have no sell on value.
It’s all hoping to find the gem and sell on to guarantee the bonus.
We need a few old calm heads in the team, pay them good money, let the younger players learn from them.
We still are lacking a quality middy, most are older, the younger ones are outwith our price range.
An old head in the central defence, same in the mid, and go from there, it can’t be worse than the pish getting served up now, can it.
HH
Senior management
should be sacked over this
I ask as a lifelong Celtic fan/supporter
aspire
no value for money
Not good enough
Ronny not backed but he not clever enough at this level
or he would have best legia marlibor malmo
My friends in Celtic
demand more
or
u will get
this
The Bonus Thief Lawwell will sell VIrgil and pocket his £1M taking his total compensation at Celtic to £10M which makes him the highest paid employee in Celtics history …without scoring a goal. The team will be downsized further.
No striker …no surprise no goals. We bought a guy who was always going to receive a 6 game ban and will end up like Balde , Pukki, Rasmussen and Scepovic. Our Director of Football Lawwell has ensured this Celtic team is once of the most toothless in the clubs history.
Lawwell has cost Celtic £50M of revenue in 12 months.
We will need to settle for a generation of domination beating pub teams.
I’m back. I had a look to see if I could find evidence of downsizing. One result that stood out was a 3-0 win against benefice in 2006.
Our back 4 was telfer, mcmanus, Caldwell and naylor.
Evaders snow started the game. Pearson, zurawski, maloney also played. So did Kenny miller.
All whipping boys at one stage or another.
Make of it what you will.
I thought that Mukgrew was the correct choice pre game.
Unfortunately, he failed dismally in why he was primarily in the team, I.e. Defend the high ball.
Unfortunately, we won’t be able to offload him, along with Commons and, although he didn’t play, Stokes.
The stodginess of our play tonight was unforgivable.
Malmo were better than us in every department, except goalkeeper- and that’s with them having two dodgy centre halfs.
Thank you , Virgil, but, goodbye.
Buy a no nonsense, no frills, horse of a CB, who can organise a defence.
Very annoyed by tonight’s performance, but it underlines our level.
Chris Sutton called it right all night.
Lubos Michel
The red in the 3-0 juventus cheats
That red tonight
50 years of Hun refs cheating us blind
Garbage!
The Celtic jersey does not shrink to fit inferior players
My team lost tonight and I am disappointed. Very, very disappointed, in fact but I don`t need a scapegoat nor do I feel a kneejerk reaction is helpful.In fact, I believe we have progressed as a team in the past year and will continue to do so over the next year ( but Virgil will be a great loss if he goes) .
I said a few days ago that much can be revealed re a poster`s personality from his posts. Much can also revealed about the character of a person in adversity.A love of Celtic excuses some reactions but some others are simply hunnish in their tone. I would happily lose that sort from the Celtic support.
Celtic will still be Celtic on Saturday and I will still enjoy going to Celtic Park on that day to watch my team.
Goodnight all,
JJ
No Ronny out from me. Need a big presence up front to support griffiths. That means spending some cash. Absolute gutted. Johansen was garbage. Keeps him on and takes Forrest off. Baffling decision. Fuck the Europa league. No sevconian better start me tom.
Red=ref
Never felt so low, I’ve followed Celtic since I was a wee boy! Went home and away thru the Brady ,macari years and suffered the Huns years of cheating and financial doping, but I have never felt like chucking it until tonite.
My misses and wee bhoy will be there on sat, I won’t. I won’t be there for any Europa leg games and prob won’t be back till I can see some progress. We have 3 main stand tkts and I love Celtic, but I won’t be takin for a fool,
The second half performance was a disgrace! Too many players let us down! I will say one last thing though! Stefan johanson will get Ronny the sack!
Blaming Ronny is wrong.
1) he was a cheapo appointment
2) he has improved the team
3) he is working with a risk averse Board incapable of managing risk.. Therefore he is not fully supported
4) rookies make rookie mistakes. Ronnie has never been anywhere need tonight’s level before joining Celtic
5) he is lumbered by an absolute numpty assistant not of his own choosing
Weeminger 2215
The difference being Basel were a good side as were we in those days; Malmo are not a good side and neither are we now. So in trying to draw parallels between tonight and 2002/03 we are not comparing apples with apples.
Basel went on to put Liverpool out of the group stages of the CL that season handing them over to us to put them out of the uefa cup.
I would be astounded in Malmo got 3 points in the CL group stages. They are rotten and a shambles defensively. Unfortunately we are not as good as that. I wait to see who we get in the el but think we have out work cut out getting out the group stages.
Tonight I console myself not by thinking of season 02/03 but of thinking at least we won’t get pumped senseless by bayern Munich Madrid etc. shame that it comes to that. How can Gordon strachan coach a team with Caldwell et al to beat Milan and Donetsk yet Ronny can’t get enough out of the much heralded van dijk v Maribor Malmo etc?
Funny game football, but I’m not laughing tonight.
I would agree that we cannot exclusively sign young possibly saleable assets.
Totally agree we need experience now and then. Gordon Strachan used that strategy to good effect.
Pretty hard to believe that we put out our tallest, best heederers in our back four and we conceded two goals from heeders inside our six yard box in front of goal.
Carvalho showed us last week what he was going to do at a corner by creating their second goal.
We were not as cute/street smart as they were tonight either, as it seems European football means a different approach. We were huff and puff whereas they were huff, puff and fall over. Inga Berget did it all night, as did Djurdjic, while Rosenberg fouled everyone around him him all night long. Even had Clarke Carlisle on Fox Soccer 2Go saying after Rosenberg’s fourth foul on our clearing defenders in the first half – that he was glad he hadn’t been carded as they were all “honest” fouls. There’s an opening at pacific Quay for you Clarke.
In attack our crosses were over hit or under hit consistently. Shots from outside the box were rare and either tame or way off target, and our corners were poor overall. Our “goal” should clearly have been given, regardless of what some claim Leigh Griffiths attempted to do to their keeper.
We are joined in the Europa League by Rapid Vienna, Monaco and Basel who all went out tonight. There’ll be more big names joining us tomorrow night too. CSKA Moscow or Sporting Lisbon, Bayer Leverkusen or Lazio, Man Utd or Brugge..
Spain now have five teams in the Champions League Group Stages. Valencia tonight and Sevilla for winning last years Europa League join Bara, R. Madrid and A. Madrid.
Jason Denayer’s move on loan to Galatasaray means he will play in the Group Stages too. Big factor in Man City’s vetoing of any loan move back to Celtic I guess.
TRC, sorry that we didn’t win the tie for you tonight, but frankly your situation puts all of this into perspective.
Get well Dan
No One Walks Alone
AAFG on 25TH AUGUST 2015 10:29 PM
Good,sound sober assessment .
ah well that’s Latchford on too now,
my bingo line of posters who only come on to criticise is complete,
I am for the off