I could not make sense of why we signed Mohamed Elyounoussi on loan from Southampton in the last days of the 2019 summer transfer window. He played in Mikey Johnston’s position, a prospect I had great hopes for. Just days later, Mikey was a star at Ibrox, winning possession (albeit without much difficulty) and setting up Odsonne Edouard for the opening goal.
Mohamed proved to be an important part of yet another treble in our second nine-in-a-row season, whereas the Celtic coaches saw gaps in Mikey’s play I had missed.
It has been five years since Mikey made his debut, so long, perhaps, that we have lost sight of the fact he is only 23 and missed much of the intervening period through injury. Jota we more readily think of as young, although the Portuguese is three weeks older.
I’m not prepared to write Mikey off. He has an ability to switch left-to-right and back better than anyone else in the squad at the moment (including Jota). His battles with form and end product have been common among wingers for decades and are not fatal to a successful career.
With three years left on his contract, he needs regular football and encouragement. Celtic have to learn how to convert this level of natural talent into a successful career, even if it means sending them out for a period.
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BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 28TH JULY 2022 4:16 PM
Might be too late already. But yeah.
Consider
Mikey Lynch.
Mikey Jagger.
Mikey McGahey.
Mikey McManus.
Just doesn’t work somehow.
Good evening cqn.
MJ has had more comebacks than Sydney Devine. Time to move him on.
He has had enough coaching from us to make him a fantastic player but just cannot hit the next level.
That said if we do not move him on and he goes on to prove me wrong I will be delighted.
Philbhoy and Big Jimmy from previous thread thanks I wasnt well after conquering the ottoman empire after my Jolly in Turkiye but 80% there now. Some amount or Russians by the way in Alanya, but sorted them out on first night with Walk on and Grace at Karoake. 😂😂😂
Onto the sheep on Sunday 4- 1 To the Bhoys.
D :)
Battle of Culloden – The Royal Hampshire Regiment Museumhttps://www.royalhampshireregiment.org › … › Timeline
Cumberland’s foot regiments, including Munro’s, were a blend of English and Irish soldiers, the latter being carefully recruited to avoid Catholic subversion.
Battle of Culloden Battle…Armies · Twelve battalions of foot which were mostly English. · Three battalions of Lowland Scots foot soldiers; one battalion and a militia had been largely …
The Battle of Culloden
The English Army Advance
The English army continued steadily to advance in the order already described, and, after a march of eight miles, formed in order of battle, in consequence of the advanced guard reporting that they perceived the Highland army at some distance making a motion towards them on the left. Finding, however, that the Highlanders were still at a considerable distance, and that the whole body did not move forward, the Duke of Cumberland resumed his march as before, and continued to advance till within a mile of the position occupied by the Highland army, when he ordered a halt, and, after reconnoitring the position of the Highlanders, again formed his army for battle in three lines, and in the following order.
The first line consisted of six regiments, viz. the Royals, (the 1st,) Cholmondeley’s, (the 34th,) Price’s, (the 14th,) the Scots Fusileers, (the 21st,) Monro’s (the 37th,) and Barrels’s, (4th). The Earl of Albemarle had the command of this line. In the intermediate spaces between each of these regiments were placed two pieces of cannon, making ten in all. The second line consisted of five regiments, viz. those of Pulteney, (the 13th,) Bligh, (the 20th,) Sempil, (the 25th,) Ligonier, (the 48th,) and Wolfe’s, (the 8th,) and was under the command of General Huske. Three pieces of cannon were placed between the exterior regiments of this line and those next them. The third line or corps de reserve , under Brigadier Mordaunt, consisted of four regiments, viz. Battereau’s (the 62d,) Howard’s, (the 3d,) Fleming’s, (the 36th,) and Blakeney’s, (the 27th,) flanked by Kingston’s dragoons, (the 3d). The order in which the regiments of the different lines are enumerated, is that in which they stood from right to left. The flanks of the front line were protected on the left by Kerr’s dragoons, (the 11th,) consisting of three squadrons, commanded by Lord Ancrum, and on the right by Cobham’s dragoons, (the 10th,) consisting also of three squadrons, under General Bland, with the additional security of a morass, extending towards the sea; but thinking himself quite safe on the right, the duke afterwards ordered these last to the left, to aid in the intended attack upon the right flank of the Highlanders. The Argyle men, with the exception of 140, who were upon the left of the reserve, were left in charge of the baggage.
The dispositions of both armies are considered to have been well arranged; but both were better calculated for defence than for attack. The arrangement of the English army is generally considered to have been superior to that of the Highlanders; as, from the regiments in the second and third lines being placed directly behind the vacant spaces between the regiments in the lines respectively before them, the Duke of Cumberland, in the event of one regiment in the front line being broken, could immediately bring up two to supply its place. But this opinion is questionable, as the Highlanders had a column on the flanks of the second line, which might have been used either for extension or echelon movement towards any point to the centre, to support either the first or second line.
David66,
I reckon Celtic will score 4 in the first half Sunday.
This is gonnae be some Season, IMO. Newco are looking very strong too.
SAINT STIVS on 28TH JULY 2022 4:38 PM
Culloden wasn’t Scotland v England.
It was two Royalist armies fighting for the British Crown.
The majority of Scots were opposed to the Jacobite cause.
If you are hanging your argument on Scotland being an oppressed nation, and the Scots being an oppressed people on the basis of what happened in the Highland Clearances you’re going to have to explain why the repression was confined to parts of the Highlands and why the majority of the Scottish people had no empathy for the Highlanders.
You’d maybe also want to consider that Scotland was not the only country where people were driven of the land because sheep were more profitable for the land owner. England had undergone a similar process centuries earlier. Thomas More refers to it in Utopia (1516) ‘Your sheep, that were wont to be so meek and tame, and so small eaters, now, as I hear say, be become so great devourers, and so wild, that they eat up and swallow down the very men themselves’.
MJ is approaching last chance saloon with Celtic.
Noticed that a lot of defenders are learning to keep on their feet and not falling for his drifting past them on their right.
Maybe should take a leaf out of young Liels book bit more direct , don’t need to walk the ball in to net every time
Not sure his style will fit into many Scottish teams , possibly Dundee Utd , most of the English Championship teams just thump the ball the way they’re facing , so France or Belgium would be a better bet
Maybe we could call him Magic Johnson.
Keeps disappearing……….
What happened after Culloden?
After the initial swift and bloodthirsty retribution for the Jacobite rebellions, laws were instigated to prevent any further groundswell of support for the previous monarchs. In 1747 ‘The Act of Proscription’ was passed. Clan tartan had become popular during the Jacobite years and this was outlawed under this new act, as were bagpipes and the teaching of Gaelic. The Act was a direct attack on the highland culture and way of life, and attempted to eradicate it from a modern and Hanoverian-loyal Scotland. Acts such as this, intended to wipe out an ancient culture, have given modern Scotland an unusual ally and kindred spirit in the Catalans. Cataluña is in the North East of Spain, the capital of which is Barcelona. They have their own culture and language (Catalan) that is completely distinct from Castilian Spain. In 1707 Scotland lost the right to self-rule, and the Catalans lost the same to the Spanish a mere 7 years later in 1714. Although these two countries are thousands of miles and cultures apart, they have an unusually similar shared history of oppression. Once Franco had won the Spanish Civil War in 1939, he treated the Catalans in much the same way the Highlanders were treated after Culloden. Franco outlawed the Catalan language and made the Catalans subject to Spanish rule. Today the Catalans watch the issue of Scottish independence with great interest.It was not only highland culture that disappeared over this period but also the highlanders themselves, for the most prosaic of reasons: money. It was deduced by those landowners on whose lands the clans lived and worked, that sheep were exponentially more financially productive than people. The wool trade had begun to boom and there was literally more value in sheep than people. So, what followed was an organized and intentional removal of the population from the area. In 1747, another Act was passed, the ‘Heritable Jurisdictions Act’, which stated that anyone who did not submit to English rule automatically forfeited their land: bend the knee or surrender your birth right.
Emigrants Statue, Helmsdale, Scotland
Some highlander clans and families had lived in the same cottages for 500 years and then, just like that, they were gone. People were literally turned out of their cottages into the surrounding countryside. Many were relocated to the coast where they would subsist farm almost cultivatable land, supplementing themselves by smelting kelp and fishing. However the kelp industry also began to decline. Some were put on to different land to farm crops, but they had no legal rights to the land. It was a very feudal arrangement. Many highlanders chose to emigrate but some were actually sold as indentured slaves.
Things began to deteriorate even further in the 1840s. The potato blight and the subsequent potato famine rendered the already difficult lives of these resettled crofters almost untenable. It has been said that at the height of the clearances as many as 2,000 crofter cottages were burned each day, although exact figures are hard to come by. Cottages were burned to make them uninhabitable, to ensure the people never tried to return once the sheep had been moved in.
Between 1811 and 1821, around 15,000 people were removed from land owned by the Duchess of Sutherland and her husband the Marquis of Stafford to make room for 200,000 sheep. Some of those turned out had literally nowhere else to go; many were old and infirm and so starved or froze to death, left to the mercy of the elements. In 1814 two elderly people who did not get out of their cottage in time were burned alive in Strathnaver. In 1826, the Isle of Rum was cleared of its tenants who were paid to go to Canada, travelling on the ship ‘James’ to dock at Halifax. Unfortunately, every one of the passengers had contracted typhus by the time they arrived in Canada. This ‘transportation’ was not that uncommon, as it was often cheaper for landowners to pay for passage to the New World than to try and find their tenants other land or keep them from starvation. However, it was not always voluntary. In 1851, 1500 tenants in Barra were tricked to a meeting about land rents; they were then overpowered, tied up and forced onto a ship to America.
Emigrant Highlander
This clearing of the population is a main contributor to the massive world-wide Scottish diaspora and why so many Americans and Canadians can trace their ancestry to the proud, ancient clans of Scotland. It is not known exactly how many highlanders emigrated, voluntarily or otherwise, at this time but estimates put it at about 70,000. Whatever the exact figure, it was enough to change the character and culture of the Scottish Highlands forever.
A 17th century Scottish prophet known as The Brahan Seer once wrote,
“The day will come when the big sheep will put the plough up in the rafters . . .
The big sheep will overrun the country till they meet the northern sea . . . in the end, old men shall return from new lands”.
It turns out, he was right.
Possibly the Best Album I ever heard. I was young and impressionable.
There cannae be many better Albums than the Stone Roses.
Ange’s Celtic isnae stopping. Magical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wfxznecAlU
Some of you will remember 10 years ago watching the spectacle of watching the Olympic opening ceremony
In between one famous scene and another if you look very closely,you will not barely notice it,maybe your learning only now.it all happened and was not fantasy.:-)
https://twitter.com/RIPRFC/status/1552339146756313088?t=Bc8RkaCimJr5SfLdkdyT1g&s=19
“Accepted into” ‘Conditional membership’
All new to me lol
Cheats
HH
THEBHOYFROMU.N.C.L.E on 28TH JULY 2022 5:01 PM
:-))))
What They Don’t Say About the Battle of Culloden
https://youtu.be/m-nqdJ9XTSE
Ernie,
I never said it was Scotland versus England, you did.
I never said Scotland as a whole was opproessed by the english, but you put it up as an argument why scotyland and ireland were different . one oppressed the other not.
You further claimes I knew nothing of the contexts of the time and that is because of my perceived politics (by you) and scottish education .
So you made an arse of yourself, you do it all the time, maybe you should read more.
But not Magic Mike
I’d go for Magic Michael, a sensible hardworking superstar, no tricks, all end product
Did you know that n’golo kante trained as a accountant until quite late in his fledgling professional football career.
He also, until recently drove a 2015 Mini Cooper.
BIG JIMMY
Thanks for your reply re 6th August.
DAVID66
Glad you are feeling better!
Once you have seen the machair you never forget it. It is Gaelic for the stunningly beautiful grassland found in the Hebrides and parts of the Highlands: fertile, a mass of wildflowers, fringed by remote sandy beaches. The first time I saw it, as a teenager on Harris, I wondered why my ancestors had chosen instead to live on the other side, on barren and rocky land, a hard place to grow anything. Within a matter of seconds, the answer dawned. They had lived on the machair but were forcibly moved in the 19th century, like many other casualties of the Highland Clearances.
The Clearances, the mass depopulation of the Highlands and Islands, still resonate today. They provide the backdrop whenever the Scottish parliament grapples with land reform or there is another community buy-out. This summer, the journalist and historian Max Hastings, writing in the Times, joined the discussion in a piece about his annual trip to the Highlands for shooting and fishing. Patronisingly, he wrote that the curse of Scotland is “its sense of victimhood, lovingly nurtured over the past century” and cited the Clearances as a prime example. He falls into the ranks of those who claim the scale and suffering has been exaggerated.
Scotland has until recently been ill served by historians. At school in the 1950s and 60s, we were taught more about the Tudors than our own history. A textbook at the time, a history of Scotland starting in 1702, ran to 335 pages, of which only one covered the Clearances. The writer John Prebble, English-born and brought up in Canada, broke this embarrassing near-silence with The Highland Clearances, published in 1963 and still the most popular Scottish history book ever written. Writing from a Marxist point of view, he portrayed the Clearances as the unnecessarily brutal expulsion of the population by greedy landowners and clan chiefs to make way for a more profitable source of income – sheep. Academics dismissed it as a blend of fact and fiction.
Thankfully into the debate comes Tom Devine, Scotland’s best modern historian. Although viewed as tainted by some Scots for coming out in support of independence during the 2014 referendum, he makes history accessible, backed up with formidable original research and statistical evidence. In this book, he chronicles land ownership, the clan system and shifting attitudes towards Highlanders, from heroic soldiers to lazy aborigines. He is populist enough to find space for the romantic Jacobite TV fantasy Outlander, but this is a serious book, which includes a large section on dispossession in the Borders – intended to put what happened in the Highlands and Islands into perspective.
Clan chiefs in the Highlands were happy enough to have large populations at various points, especially during the Napoleonic wars. Devine demolishes the idea that Highlanders were by nature more martial than people in other parts of the UK. It was simple economics: the clan chiefs behaved as military entrepreneurs, providing recruits at a price. When the war ended and demand for soldiers fell, they looked for alternative sources of income. Sheep farming was one, and that meant clearing the land. Devine is fair minded, acknowledging landlords and chiefs who tried to devise ways to keep people, but they were in a small minority. “Coercion was employed widely and systematically,” he concludes.
The harshest of the expulsions came in the 1840s and 50s with the collapse, as in Ireland, of the staple crop, the potato crop. Families were evicted when they were at their most vulnerable. Devine finds space for the voices of those sent into exile, often ignored in the past because their accounts, mainly told through song and poetry, were in Gaelic. Coming from the Lowlands, Canada, the US and Australia, they record homesickness but also a rage and desire for revenge, against both landlords and sheep.
My own family were moved from the machair on the island of Berneray in the Sound of Harris in 1850, according to local historian Peter Kerr, author of The Story of Emigration from Berneray, Harris. Forced out with them were other relatives: the family of one of Scotland’s best-loved poets, and my cousin, Norman MacCaig.
MacCaig wrote extensively about his love of the Highlands and believed the land should be masterless. That does not equate to victimhood. I do not feel any sense of victimhood either, having seen the consequences when people around the world cling to historical injustices. I just want to know about Scotland’s past, and am grateful to Devine for producing a balanced, detailed and extremely readable account of one of the saddest episodes in that history. He also makes it harder for conservatives who persist in the claim it was all a myth.
LIONROARS67
excellent contributions, factual.
still looks like oppresion of a people to me.
SAINT STIVS on 28TH JULY 2022 5:32 PM
My last contribution tonight is to echo your suggestion on reading history books, maybe start with Scotlands emeritus professor of history Tom Devines book on Scotlands highland clearances
Looking forward to flag day on Sunday, meeting up with some excellent CQN folk pre-match
Hasta la vista………
Let’s hope Mikey does go out on loan as i’m sure he wil have plenty of offers. Mikey was highly regarded by Damian Duff, a player who in his time has played under some of the best coaches in the world, alas Damian had to depart the Hoops due to family reasons. We must not forget the wonderful Jota was out on loan until he was 23 years of age.
lionroars67 on 28th July 2022 5:38 pm
SAINT STIVS on 28TH JULY 2022 5:32 PM
My last contribution tonight is to echo your suggestion on reading history books, maybe start with Scotlands emeritus professor of history Tom Devines book on Scotlands highland clearances
Looking forward to flag day on Sunday, meeting up with some excellent CQN folk pre-match
Hasta la vista………
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BoJo’s last PMQ’s ended with that phrase. o_O
Great stuff btw, by every CQNer especially yer self.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-JOVXZePQk
LIONROARS67 ………
Both your Posts are great reading.
HH mate.
It is impossible to comprehend what happened back then.
We have the most amazing Japanese Bhoys working their bollocks aff for our Club.
It is a tune though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol2FsAD2IuU
God Bless all our Incredible Japanese Bhoys.
Genius.CSC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBsvRwjDw0E
Decided to watch “The Stuarts” again.
Its all their bliddy fault anyways.
Good evening all from Paddy Neesons. I hope you are all hale and hearty.
Falkland Palace place to go for the Stuarts
bigrailroadblues,
I cannae wait for the Pool tourney in Honolulu.
I hope you are well big chaap.
THEBHOYFROMU.N.C.L.E on 28TH JULY 2022 5:01 PM
Boom
SAINT STIVS on 28TH JULY 2022 5:19 PM
The argument is about whether Scotland is/was an oppressed nation and whether the Scottish people were/are oppressed on the basis of their nationality.
All you have been able to show is that a small part of the population were oppressed, not because of their nationality, but because of which monarch they favoured (not that they had any choice in the matter, if their clan chief said they were supporting one or other, that was it). So Scotland wasn’t oppressed by England and the Scottish people were oppressed by the English.
Pete, I’m fine mate. See you in September for a rerr terr. 👍
Not sure the Legend Beezer will be up for this wee soirée, I ain’t sure he plays Pool. TinyTim does.
Brendan will let us Curtley Ambrose if he is up for it.
I know he Loves the Celtic and misses his Brother.
CQN is a Magical place.
Thank You Paul67.
Really looking forward to Sunday. Massively confident of a great perf and 3 points
bigrailroadblues on 28th July 2022 6:13 pm
Pete, I’m fine mate. See you in September for a rerr terr. 👍
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I’ve warned the World its gonnae be a mad wan.
Who knows where we will end up. :))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XedEne6TXXA
ERNIE LYNCH on 28TH JULY 2022 6:13 PM
SAINT STIVS on 28TH JULY 2022 5:19 PM
The argument is about whether Scotland is/was an oppressed nation and whether the Scottish people were/are oppressed on the basis of their nationality.
and again, I never put any argument on that basis forward, you created that yourself as some sort of claim as to why I might vote nationalist.
but you were wrong on all accounts.
Pete, Dumbarton Harp? 😂
Saint Stivs,
I’m a Unionist according to people.
I like being educated.
I adore the Celts big ragamuffin stylee.
I dinnae like Big Governments.
The EU is massive..
I Love yer stuff you put on the Blog.