Fair play to Newco, a 3-0 win after a 2-0 defeat is an achievement. Anyone who thinks this season will be easy has not been paying attention. Whatever they do in the Champions League playoff round, they will arrive at Celtic Park three weeks on Saturday battle ready.
The circa £5m they earned last night will go towards supporting their structural deficit for the coming season, pending the outcome of their tie against PSV. There is real opportunity, or jeopardy, in those games.
Celtic have to consider whether they are ready to overcome the challenge. Despite early season good form and a manager who delivered spectacularly last season, it is far from clear we are. Newco changed manager mid-term, suffered a midseason wobble, but finished strong, arguably the strongest.
We await to competitively deploy Alexandro Bernabei, Moritz Jenz may, or may not, be used when Carl Stafelt is fit and we are yet to find out what Aaron Mooy can deliver. In short, we can only offer an aspirational opinion on whether our first choice 11 is stronger than last term, or we simply have more cover.
It is reassuring that we continue to be linked with quality players. If our business this month is close to as effective as last August’s, you will enjoy 3 September.
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How much money have Porto made in transfer sales in last 25 years? Mourinho gave them ridiculous money for a couple of players, when he went from there to Chelsea
An Dún,
Not complicated. They expect Huns to win home game but lose the tie overall.
I’m delighted Huns are at home first game, It’s a huge advantage having second game at home,
With away goals rule gone, you know exactly what needs to be done with a huge home crowd roaring you on, anything is possible.
I am more confident than ever that Huns will be knocked out.
‘Looks like’
‘Sound like’
‘Should have’
‘You have to wonder’
‘A lot will be revealed…’
‘We are looking’
‘My thoughts are’
‘We seem to be’
Hmmm, no evidence then.
C40 @ 5.40
With DD involved — we will never ask.
If we were to build a new Main Stand I would be on to the SG for cheap finance / loan guarantee support / investment subsidies to push the boundary of the design and its facilities.
£100mill private sector investment in the East End would be transformational especially if it came with our name on it — if you were really cute you could go to Westminster for some funding and shame Not-Jacinda into supporting the plan.
The other angle is the Avenues fund — multiple millions to tart up streets put in bike lanes / plant trees.
And guess what none of the money is being spent east of Moir Street.
I would prefer the Gallowgate to be done up but London Road would be good for our neighbours in Bridgeton — streets getting done up to support / mark the route our ground.
They would be that sick that they wouldn’t want to march on them.
Now that would be a result.
SFTB,
Thank you for your comments, however I disagree.
Getting people away from the box ( Terrestrial tV ) and travelling to a game is a major achievement.
Many of the families who attend woman’s football will also purchase merchandise and attend mens football.
This is not the 1970’s where we learned the ” art ” of opening a beer can. Times have changed and we must embrace the change or be left behind.
Cheers and HH.
SFTB @ 5.46
You really do know how to suck the air out of the room.
Have you read “A Christmas Carol” too many times?
Sounds as if you have.
Avenues Fund — put in fancy / middle class bike lanes.
We already have the cooncil spec bike lanes causing havoc with the traffic.
Aye we need to buy more players and invest more money,
1990 – Martin Hayes (Arsenal) – 650,000 –
1991- Tony Cascarino (Aston Villa) – 1.1M –
1991 – Gary Gillespie (Liverpool) – 925,000
1991 – Tony Mowbray (Middlesborough)
1992 – Tom Boyd (Chelsea) – Exchanged for Cascarino
1992 – Andy Payton (Middlesborough)
1992 – Stuart Slater (West Ham) – 1.5M
1992 – Frank McAvennie (Aston Villa) – Free
1992 – Paul Byrne (Bangor City) – 70,000
1993 – Wayne Biggins (Barnsley) – 100,00
1994 – Carl Muggleton (Leicester City) – 100,000
1994 – Lee Martin (Man Utd) – 350,000
1994 – Willie Falconer (Sheffield Utd) – 375,000
1994 – Andy Walker (Bolton Wanderers) – 550,000
1995 – Declan Boyle (Sligo Rovers) – 65,000
1996 – Alan Stubbs (Bolton Wanderers) – 3.5M
1997 – Tommy Johnson (Aston Villa) – 2.3M
1997 – Craig Burley (Chelsea) – 2.4M
1997 – Jonathan Gould (Bradford City) – Free
1998 – Regi Blinker – (Sheffield Wednesday) – Undisclosed
1998 – Tony Warner – (Liverpool) – Loan
1998 – Scott Marshall (Arsenal) – Loan
1999 – Dmitri Kharine (Chelsea) – Free
1999 – Olivier Tebily (Sheffield Utd) – 1.25M
1999 – Bobby Petta (Ipswich Town) – Free –
1999 – Eyal Berkovic (West Ham) – 5.75M
1999 – Ian Wright (West Ham) – Free
1999 – Stephane Bonnes (FC Mulhouse) – Undisclosed
2000 – Michael McGovern (Enniskellen Town)
2000 – Chris Sutton (Chelsea) – 6M
2000 – Alan Thompson (Aston Villa) – 2.75M
2000 – Ramon Vega (Spurs) – loan
2000 – Neil Lennon (Leicester City) – 5.75M
2001 – Steve Guppy (Leicester City) – 350,000
2001 – John Hartson (Coventry City) – 6M
2002 – Magnus Hedman (Coventry City) –
2003 – Darren O’Dea (Home Farm) – Free
2003 – Stan Varga (Sunderland) – Free
2003 – Michael Gray (Sunderland) – Loan
2004 – Danny Milosevic (Leeds Utd) – Free
2004 – Henri Camara (Wolves) – Loan
2004 – Juninho (Middlesborough) – Free
2005 – Stephane Henchoz (Liverpool) – Free
2005 – Craig Bellamy (Newcastle Utd) – Loan
2005 – Mo Camara (Burnley) – Free
2005 – Jeremie Alliadiere (Arsenal) – Loan
2005 – Adam Virgo (Brighton) – 1.5M
2005 – Paul Telfer (Southampton) – 200,000
2005 – Roy Keane – (Man Utd) – Free
2006 – Dion Dublin (Leicester City) – Free
2006 – Jiri Jarosik (Chelsea) – 2M –
2006 – Kenny Miller (Wolves) – Free
2006 – Lee Naylor (Wolves) – 600,000
2008- Georgios Samaras (Man City) – 1.2M
2008 – Andreas Hinkel (Sevilla ) – 2M
2008 – Ben Hutchinson (Middlesborough) – Undisclosed
2008- Glenn Loovens (Cardiff City) – 2.5M
2009 -Shaun Maloney (Aston Villa) – 2.5M
2008 – Niall McGinn (Derry City) – 200,000
2009- Willo Flood (Cardiff City) – 150,000
2009 -Danny Fox (Coventry City) – 1.5M
2009 – Josh Thompson (Stockport) – Free
2010 – Diomansy Kamara (Fulham) – Loan
2010 – Robbie Keane (Spurs) – Loan
2010 – Joe Ledley (Cardiff City) – Free
2010 – Daryl Murphy (Sunderland) – 1.5M
2010 – Gary Hooper (Scunthorpe) – 2.4M
2010 – Fraser Forster (Newcastle) – Loan
2010 – Olivier Kapo (Wigan) – Free
2011 – Kris Commons (Derby County) – 300,000
2011 – Kelvin Wilson (Notts Forest) – Free
2011 – Adam Matthews (Cardiff City) – Free
2011 – Andre Blackman (Wimbledon) – Free
2013 – Steven Mouyokolo (Wolves) – Free
2014 – Leigh Griffiths (Wolves) – 1M
2014 – Joe Inge Berget (Cardiff City) – Loan
2014 – Aleksander Tonev (Aston Villa) – Loan
2014 – Jason Denayer (Man City) – Loan
2014 – John Guidetti (Man City) – Loan
2015 – Michael Duffy (Derry City) – Undisclosed
2015 – Dedryck Boyata (Man City) – 1.5M
2015 – Saidy Janko (Man Utd) – Undisclosed
2015 – Tyler Blackett (Man Utd) – Loan
2015 – Carlton Cole – Free
2015 – Patrick Roberts (Man City)
2016 – Moussa Dembele (Fulham) – 500,000
2016 – Kolo Toure (Liverpool) – Free
2016 – Scott Sinclair (Aston Villa) – 3.5M
2016 – Dorus DeVries (Notts Forest) – Undisclosed
2016 – Christian Gamboa (WBA) – 1M
2017 – Kundai Benyu (Ipswich Town) – Free
2017 – Olivier Ntcham (Man City) – 4.5M
2018 – Charly Musonda (Chelsea) – Loan
2018 – Filip Benkovic (Leicester City) – Loan
2019 – Oliver Burke (WBA) – Loan
2019 – Luca Connell (Bolton) – Free
2019 – Jonathan Afolabi (Southampton) – Free
2019 – Moritz Bauer (Stoke City) – Loan
2019 – Mohamed Elyounoussi (Southampton) – Loan
2019 – Lee O’Connor (Man Utd) – Undisclosed
2020 – Albian Ajeti (West Ham) – 5M
2020 – Shane Duffy (Brighton) – Loan
2021 – John-Joe Kenny (Everton) – Loan
2021 – Liam Shaw (Sheffield Wednesday) – Free
2021 – Osaze Ugoghide (Sheffield Wednesday) – Free
2021 – Bosun Lawal (Watford) – Free
2021 – Joe Hart (Spurs) – 1M
2021 – James McCarthy – Free
2021 – Liam Scales – 500,000
2021 – Cam Carter-Vickers (Spurs) – 6M
2022 –
2022 – Johnny Kenny (Sligo Rovers) – 100,000
2022 – Reo Hatate
2022 – Daizen Maeda 1.5M
2022 – Kyogo Furahashi
2022 – Yosuke Ideguci – Osaka – Undisclosed
2022 – Jota – Benfica 6M
2022 – Bernabei – Lanus – 3.75M –
2022 – Matt O’Riley (MK Dons) – 1.5M
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 10TH AUGUST 2022 5:59 PM
You’ve missed out out two most expensive signings I think.
OE and CJ.
IHH.
MM
“You want evidence — then we have a 20 year history of transfer dealings / forced sales / selling club vibe to look back on. This is not our first PL inspired transfer rodeo.
A lot will be revealed in Sept but until them we can just read the runes in true CFC style.”
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I asked for evidence and you have told me that we’ve been a selling club for 20 years (arbitrary number). Every Scottish club has been a de facto selling club since the Bosman Rolling and TV steroid money for the big 5 leagues came in. We were even selling Kenny and Charlie and Yogi and Wispy before then.
Your final sentence addresses the question you were asked and you say you do not know which is why you should be a little less assertive and certain about your assertions until you have evidence to support them.
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MM
“For your information — we have not bought AM / BS / MoJ.
The fact that you need to big up these players suggest you know that you case is weak.”
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61889407. Is he playing for free?
https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/aaron-mooy-completes-celtic-transfer-24516474 Is he playing for free? Did he pay off his Chinese club totally out of his own re-imbursed pocket?
Only Moritz Jenz is on a loan to buy basis- we signed, bought and paid for the other two.
P.S. mentioning them is not “begging them up” – suggests your rebuttal might have some weak reasoning behind it
AD @ 5.29
The odds look strange.
Two separate markets?
Game — win / lose / draw — 6/4 is the win.
A draw could be a favoured result?
Tie — win / lose — 5/4 is the win for the tie?
No draw allowed?
Or — our friends in Govan have more confidence that they will get through the tie than they have about any particular game.
Specifically that they will win at home?
They know that a special ref will be involved — just a case that they do not know which game?
One to watch — in a DR style — follow the money.
DR — he of the known unknown vibe.
MM
“You really do know how to suck the air out of the room.
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You have the same grasp of irony as Alan’s Morisette.
I am confident that I can meet with 95% + of our contributors and be either welcomed or tolerated.
What do you think your percentage would be?
SFTB @ the 18th century.
We do not buy players — that is slavery.
We buy out existing contracts.
Paying transfer fees is squad investment which is amortized through the accounts.
Paying wages is current expenditure which is expensed through the accounts.
So you are still wrong..
BSR @ the madam
I hope that was a copy and paste job.
My main point still stands — we are a bit undercooked at the moment.
We need another couple of starters added to the squad.
Our spend this transfer window is less than the resources we have available.
MM
Disappearing into a semantic dead end.
We bought these players to play for us. Buying them is not slavery but neither is it free money. We had to invest money in their wages.
You cannot spin your way out of it by saying it’s 2 different areas of expenditure; they are both still expenditure/buying.
!!BADA BING!! on 10TH AUGUST 2022 5:46 PM
Since Mourinho left it’s nearly £400m in profit but with part-ownership who knows how much of that Porto would see
They’re fortunate to be able to sell players who’ve come through the youth ranks for big money – nearly £130m in the last two seasons and this.
Outside of Mcgeady and KT we haven’t sold a home-grown player for more than £2m in our history. Porto have sold 5 home-grown players for more than what we receive for KT.
Greenpinata
“Times have changed and we must embrace the change or be left behind.”
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What has changed and what are we embracing?
Should we be paying more to our Ladies Team because we believe it will, at some unspecified time in the future, be worth that financial input? Or should we keep paying them at a level roughly akin to what they bring into the club?
Can you foresee no dangers in paying any team, men or women or other, more than they earn for the club?
M
“My main point still stands ”
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To be accurate, that should read:-
“My main unevidenced point still stands to be tested.”
SFTB,
Lots has changed and we need to embrace the change
Your an intelligent guy, you know what has changed. Its self explanatory and I don’t need to go into detail what was was previously acceptable and is now not acceptable.
At Parkhead I see lots of families around where I sit. We need to continue our efforts to make the match day experience as family friendly as possible. There is a massive largely untapped audience out there.
HH.
Greenpinata
Agree with all of that – our match day experience- football spectacle aside- is already far superior to what we had in the 60s and 70s and it can improve a great deal yet.
My friends in Celtic,
Amounts shirts sold
Bayern Munich 3,250,000
Real Madrid 3,050,000
Liverpool 2,450,000
Manchester United 1,950,000
Juventus 1,420,000
Barcelona 1,340,000
Chelsea 1,310,000
Borussia Dortmund 1,222,000
Paris St Germain (PSG) 1,180,000
Manchester City 1,087,000
We have some work to do, but it’s possible with aggressive marketing in various countries encapsulating all genders.
HH.
Dizny matter how much we spend – if we don’t park the bus in Europe we will be handed our asses in crunch games!
Even the great Barca team struggled vs the Celtic parked bus.
A Celtic team driven by NL`s warrior psychology, just off the phone to MON!
NL parked the bus vs the best Barca team ever, and we won 2-1 thanks to a long ball, Tony Watt peach of a winner.
NL also parked the bus in the Camp Nou, in the same CL group, with Efe Ambrose and Kelvin Wilson as centre halfs, and a long ball, Sammi, peach of an opener, and Barca scored their winning goal with just 20 seconds left to play, 1-2 we lost, vs the Barca Galactico’s.
Great debate guys need to shoot.
Phone is running out and the beer garden is out of chargers.
HH to all.
zadok the priest
It is almost as if the guy knows nothing about real estate investment funds, private equity, pension funds or gevernment infrastructure masterplans.
avenues in the east end.
an avenue from Brigton to celtic park.
dearie me.
government money to build a PLC infrastructure , aye right.
SFTB
MADMITCH
So where is the evidence that this is a TIGHT budget and not an AVERAGE or a SPENDTHRIFT/GROWTH budget?
He got it from the Daily Mail who reported it about a month ago.
I dont kow why the pessimism around things,
we are best shape for start of the season for many years.
in all departments and in all things.
Greenpinata,
I may be set in my ways, Ladies fitba, even Celtic teams just don’t get me excited.
Deelighted howeeeevaaaah so many Gals are frequenting Celtic Park.
The Olde Jungle toilet did they even cater for Ghirls anywhere?
Fergus.CSC.HouseofSteel.
Club Revenue
1. Man City €644.9m
2. Real Madrid €640.7m
3. Bayern €611.4m
4. Barcelona €582.1m
5. Man Utd €558m
6. PSG €556.2m
7. Liverpool €550.4m
8. Chelsea €493.1m
9. Juventus €433.5m
10. Tottenham €406.2m
11. Arsenal €366.5m
12. Dortmund €337.6m
13. Atletico €332.8m
14. Inter €330.9m
15. Leicester €255.5m
16. West Ham €221.5m
17. Wolves €219.2m
18. Everton €218.1m
19. Zenit €212m
20. Aston Villa €207.3m
celtic40me-thanks for reply,
GREENPINATA
You could have updated it 👍
How can Celtic compete?
MADMITCH
The window hasn’t slammed shut
SCULLYBHOY
They can’t that’s why you get nothing but white noise from the cynics
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