Lots of details became available yesterday but if you can drag yourself away from the most gratuitous, concentrate on the dates.
12 December 2012.
One week before the IPO. Material information disclosed to the nomad?
21 June 2012.
Four weeks after Mr Whyte was banned from participating in Scottish football, enabling Newco to exist.
11 months before one of Mr Whyte’s collaborators is proposed as a director of Newco.
What the spivs have done to that club, assisted by the most stupid people to own keyboards and journos on-the-make, is breath-taking. How did the idiots manage to take over? There is a lesson for humanity here.
On a related subject:
“Craig Whyte’s involvement would be hidden from the SFA and SPL”.
Mr Ogilvie, you’re going to need a bigger shredder.
You and your organisation are being openly mocked. What was patently obvious to anyone remotely interested in following events to their logical conclusion a year ago is now evident to all.
I have no interest in you resigning now. All the damage which could have been done to our game due to a lack of penetrative oversight, which is your job, has been done. Your persistence is merely confirmation that the levels of corporate governance at the SFA remain unchanged.
Fans from SPL and SFL clubs found rock among the sand to build foundations on last year. There remains a love of our game, and our clubs, among the detritus, but we have unquestionably been failed by the custodians of our game at Hampden Park, who I am convinced, will again bury their heads in the sand.
There is no going back, no quick fix, no one can put this right. Nothing will ever be the same again. Accept this and move on.
Willie Wallace autobiography, signed copies for those who click below and buy now!! A man, from a team, from a time when the world’s great game worked the way it should.
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Several people responded to my request for a working link to Charlotte’s documents.
Thanks to them but I have since discovered that scribd.com is blocked in Turkey.
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/freemasons-for-dummies-cheat-sheet.html
Auldheid,
So the opportunity to create the ideal holds no attraction for you ?
Once Scottish football is destroyed we should desert it and leave it, join another bent organisation and start again ?
Or we impose ourselves and help create something new that promotes the ideals we have been screaming for, for the last 5 years
Accountable
Transparent
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iki,
I have cut and pasted all the docs form the past 24 hours into word – if you get me your e-mail (not sure the best way to do this), I will be happy to e-mail to you.
Cheers,
BJM.
NCLHE
Even the bunnet picked his fights with the PEEPIL .
IMO only pastures knew would do for us as a club ,if we could achieve that then our game would be well and truly CLEANSED
HH
Think thats hurting Herald hun bleating on Shortbread just now
Rip it up and start again at the Scottish FA, at best their incompetence has caused events to happen that shouldn’t have, count the cost of the ordinary supporters bets over the years, the cost of not competing in the CL, and I’m only talking of incompetents here.
The truth is more like the end of the biggest sporting fraud case in world football.
Auldheid your idea of upping sticks is our best option I’d say.
Ach well back to the sun :>)
V
The Scottish Premier League has been monitoring the situation with some clubs having raised questions as to whether Hearts were in danger of suffering an insolvency event.
And yet they didn’t seem too worried about “monitoring the situation” at Ibrox. Walter Smith stated in October 2009 that the bank was running the club. If they had done something then they might have avoided the mess they got themselves into last year.
As for Lloyds’s toxic play pal, HBOS: just think of it like Dracula’s ‘kiss of death’. Alongside thriving businesses, they also run individuals into the ground — ASSET STRIPPING is THEIR game, and they do it sooo well. There’s no better bank than HBOS for reversing the fortunes of the wealthy. Their mates over at the SFO and at DLA Piper can be counted on to lend a helping hand should any cover-up be required — others who might lend a hand to pervert the course of justice include New Scotland Yard, the Met, local police — they’re all so brilliantly co-operative, it’s unreal!!
If anyone gives too much grief, we just kick ‘em into the long grass — toss ‘em over to the FOS, who always gives them a good run for their money. It’s the perfect face-saver and time-waster when you need it! Normally it takes so long, people who are referred there will eventually give up the will to live or at least forget they even had an issue. It works a treat, really.
We can run ring rounds laymen and plebians. We’re just so much better at organising ourselves than they are! When push comes to shove they’ll just acknowledge that we DESERVE the riches we’ve got and that they deserve to languish in poverty!! All we need do to protect our power base, is keep our friends in high places sweet and continue to freeze out the great unwashed. Easy peasy, really.
Our ‘triangle of success’ gives equal co-operative power to the judicia (legal system / law society / bar council), banking’s robber barons (UK banks / financial regulation / Treasury / FSA / World Bank), and the insolvency profession (insolvency service / ‘regulators’ like ICAEW) — all working in tandem, to PROTECT each other from harm. What could be better than that? This way, each of the three sides can prosper as they deserve and continue to feed off the public and ordinary businesses which don’t really deserve to exist anyway.
We won’t allow ‘public inquiries’ or damning press coverage to undermine the nice little earner we’ve put together for ourselves. No-one’s ever going to question us, as long as we stick together and lend a deaf ear to their challenges, ring-fence any revolutionaries and slap them with huge ‘costs orders’ through the High Court or else bankrupt them, and ensure we continue to control the media through insidious use of in-house legal teams, and continue to block Court hearings by falsifying and expunging records if need be.
It’s a QUID PRO QUO. We look after the courts, funding the judges salaries and bonuses and preserving their status and untouchability, and in exchange of course they look after us by ensuring all cases go our way. As long as we can sustain the illusion of ‘justice’ and ‘choice’ we can continue to flourish. Whoever the great unwashed votes into power, we’re right behind them. It matters not who gets elected: we pay the piper — so we call the tune.
fstb,
watp are becoming insignificant, if we allow them to continue to believe they have a point we encourage their entitlement delusions.
Education is the only way to go, transparency is the only way to destroy stupidity
Moving to another league is all well and good but wouldn’t that just clear a path for Sevco, assisted by the SFA and their referees, to climb up the leagues and eventually into Celtic’s league where the clamour for a new ‘old firm’ would be irresistible?
Where we go, they’ll go eventually (unless it’s the ROI).
As long as They have breath in their rotten body, there will be no incentive for any other jurisdiction wanting us.
However, if they were totally vanquished, then the odds would be slightly higher for us to be welcomed somewhere else.
Apart from their reputation, it will always be difficult to absorb two clubs, rather than one.
It is frustrating that other clubs, including ourselves, haven’t publically pressed the authorities for leadership.
However, I believe that the Boards of football clubs know more of what is going on than do the public. Therefore, I think I can hold on a bit longer for the denouement.
One thing is sure. Football in Scotland will never be the same again. The fans showed last year that integrity has to be at the root of the game.
What is emerging now, is far worse than what was known this time last year.
The only pity was that Longmuir / Ballantyne squeezed them into SFL Div.3.
It was so close and one more wee push would have done it, although, Div.3 clubs’ fans had very little clout and The Dead Pound held an attraction for them.
It may call for compromise again, unfortunately, or else our only totally honourable course of action is…..wait for it…………
BC or DC.
Quite amazing the stuff that is coming out from our new hero Charlotte.
Will the so called MSM run with these revelations on their news programs, newspapers and websites?
Canny see it masel :-0)
Hail Hail!
thomthetim,
Before Christ or District of Columbia?
LostMeRightAtTheEndCSC
!!Bada Bing!!
18:00 on 16 May, 2013
zombieheadhunter- belly up? You mean go out of business? Can’t see it.They are the fabric of Scottish society you know.
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I’m sure you’re right.all I’m saying is that their demise may be met with relief in some quarters.
Awe_Naw…,
Ach yer paranoid
Paul67,
Personally, I disagree with just accepting that Campbell Ogilvie should remain in post. If it was any other job he’d have been sent packing a long time ago.
Why should we just accept what we’ve known all these years?…
Are we basically now at the stage of saying every Celtic fan, and the generations passed on, were correct about the SFA, that they are a corrupt body and we were not ‘paranoid’. However, now that we know that to be the case we should just accept it and carry on regardless?
I think (I hope) your opinion is somewhat tongue and cheek as maybe you know more than you are letting on. For example, with the implosion of Sevco, the SFA will implode too. Or Celtic are planning an escape route out of this corrupt place anyway.
However, if it’s not then I’d be really disappointed if there’s nothing else behind your thought process other than the acceptance of a corrupt governing body answerable to nobody…
BBC avoiding the real stories. Dave king they say. Trying to keep the orcs upbeat.
zombieheadhunter-Got you now,will save somebody from making a decision……..eventually.HH
ttt,
It’s no frustrating, it’s embarrassing we have allowed it to continue for so long in silence, silence, silence like a slave and our board have led the way in silence
in my wee corner of bishy i have several retired neighbours who have taken to flying saltires from the garages and fences, a couple of them are a considerable size.
one couple, nice folks, late 70s are active members of the snp.
now some eejit has run up a big butchers apron on a pole.
there maybe trouble ahead.
Paul67
They’re gonna need a bigger boat!
http://notonewco13.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/roll-up-roll-up-for-your-sevco-season-tickets/
If some of you have time on Saturday.
At 12:30 BST Legia Warsaw play against Lech Poznan. The game is called derby of Poland. Only these two clubs have chances to be the champion this year. My Legia are 2 points ahead, with three more games after Saturday. If we win, I don’t think Lech can catch us. If we draw or lose everything may happen.
I say about that game for two reasons:
1. You can watch great performance on the stands and neverendng laud support for our players.
2. Celtic Glasgow scouts will be at the game.
Go Tommy on SSB – unearthing a Fergus interview from 19 canteen!
Guidi’s head has rotated 360 degrees.
guidis argment is
they play at ibrox
they wear blue
and they are called rangers
so their rangers.
i got my grannies house
i wear her clothes
i call my self Martha
why doesnt her old pals accepted me.
Rocket
Heard guidi state that in his opinion rangers are same team with 55 titles. .. caller said he had e mailed uefa and they stated sevco have one D3 title. Rangers are out for 54
Popes message
Beware the tyranny of money, it’s enough to help me find my faith again
Sevco are doing what their predecessors have done: leaking stories to the press for their personal gain. The difference now is that they no longer have the MSM gatekeepers to filter the data.
T’internet has blown the lid on information, if SDM made his ‘floating casino’ remarks now it would be torn to shreds in a matter of minutes. Mark Guido is no longer on the inside, he’s just told a caller that he doesn’t have time to test his opinion on the internet.
The three sevco factions will destroy each other, Celtic are doing exactly the right thing, ignore the car crash, don’t slow down!
Guidi also said that he ‘s got better things to do with his time than check UEFA websites for info.
Like What?.
I’m still of the opinion that Thistle won the league.
Spivco only won the bottom division of said league.
Guido repeating the FF LIE!
HAHAHAHAHAH Guidi – fraser forster will need to leave if he wants to play for England.
These so called journo’s really are pathetic
ignoring the fact they are a new club and dont have 3 years accounts,
if rangers had reached the cup final, and qualified for a european space, would they get the co-efficient points of Rangers oldco …………
EM NAW.
someone ask clyde for me, i couldnt without losing the rag.
Jinky – it’s incredible how pro-hun the panel is tonight.
I just hope callers keep coming in and blowing them out the water. That other ghuy that was on after was good too.
The ‘Celtic dossier’.
Is there actually such a thing? I would like to think so.
Or has it been shredded? I hope not.
Will it ever be made public?
Let’s not forget the great Desmondo coming out a few months ago to tell us what a great historical club R*****s were!
I await its entry into the public domain with great anticipation.
HH!!
Crushed nuts ..,
“Don’t slow down” gonnae qualify that statemt please, we’re poor and we can’t afford players but the dividend is good, or, WHAT EXACTLY ?
MacAvennie is a thick tube
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
18:21 on
16 May, 2013
Auldheid,
So the opportunity to create the ideal holds no attraction for you ?
Once Scottish football is destroyed we should desert it and leave it, join another bent organisation and start again ?
Or we impose ourselves and help create something new that promotes the ideals we have been screaming for, for the last 5 years
Accountable
Transparent
Just
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Cheese. Did I say that or is that your interpretation?ertainly not mine.