Occasionally an innocuous comment left here can stay with you for years. The day following the 2005 defeat in Bratislava someone wrote, “I suspect we’ll find an injury in Nakamura’s fitness test”. The player was scheduled to sign imminently, but with Champions League income looking unlikely, doubts emerged that Celtic would pay the money.
Soon others expressed doubts that Shunsuke would want to come, but within 48 hours of that defeat, he was sitting in front of the media at Celtic Park. I was there, among a gaggle of Japanese and Scottish journos, when one of the locals asked why the prospect of being without European football didn’t put him off.
Shunsuke handled the question perfectly, “I am not here for six games of football, I have signed for Celtic and hope to play here for many years.” Rumour has it that not everyone in the dressing room back then was equally as enthusiastic about life in Glasgow.
I’ve heard lots about Wakaso Mubarak in recent weeks, he appears to be a genuine talent, as well as being spirited. What is most appealing about him is that he wants to be here. This deal would not have happened if the player was not absolutely committed to coming to the club, and making his stay a success.
Back in August 2005 we didn’t know what we were getting with Naka, and I’m not going to burden Wakaso with a comparison to a player who turned out to be a transformational legend, but we need players with big personalities who can walk into the dressing room with the determination to be there, just as Naka did.
Welcome to Celtic, Wakaso. Be yourself and you’ll love Glasgow; Glasgow will love you too.
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Moonbeams WD. Wee Oscar’s our Bhoy and Kano’s our mhan.
16:04 on 28 August, 2014
‘There are some buffoons on here voting based on footy allegiences.’
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So far as I can see this topic is about a story created by the nats trying to scare us into voting yes otherwise we lose the Scotland team.
So in other words it’s nats who want us to vote according to football allegiancies.
Desperate stuff I’m sure you’ll agree.
Greenpinata:
Voting Yes has absolutely sod all to do with voting for Salmond and the SNP.
By default? Are you kidding?
The flipside of that argument is that by voting No you are, by default, voting for the BNP, UKIP, the Tories, the Orange Order, Britain First, the Lib Dems and NuLabour.
You see where the logic of that argument takes us?
I am very clear on what I am voting for, and everyone I know who’s voting Yes is equally clear on what they are considering doing.
Very few of them have any affection for the SNP and its leader. This is about more than that, a Hell of a lot more.
Nearly 50% of the electorate in Scotland are over 50 years old.
The majority in fear for their pensions
That’s why ‘No’ will win.
We don’t trust ourselves which is just as well because
‘power devolved is power retained’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sPXR8gDlEQ
The Green Man
That’s pretty much what I said too. This agreement is far too unsettling you know.
Sevco in some incarnation will always be with us.
Leg Up CSC
HH
ernie lynch
16:14 on 28 August, 2014
Even by your standards that’s a link of incredible proportion.
Desperate??I would guess so.
James Forrest is praying for The Unconquerable Oscar Knox
16:06 on 28 August, 2014
Humour to be banned in a separate Scotland?
Yesterday Euroscpetics in the Tory party was a reason to vote yes. Today a Eurosceptic leaving the Tory party is apparently a reason to vote yes.
Yesterday a load of business folk supporting the union was a reason to vote yes. Today a bunch of business folk bot supporting the union is a reason to vote yes.
Etc etc etc
The Green Man
Well you took a comment as a put down that wasn’t meant as such so go figure.
I’m only asking what changes next season if Sevco are promoted. Have you been going for the last 2 years?
What changes if they appear in the Prem next year? The campaign to put them in Div3 was succesful but should they be denied promotion?
Does you hatred of them surpass your love of Celtic?
Why can you not support Celtic? If you don’t want to prop them up don’t go to Ibrox. Many Celtic fans refused to go when the old Rangers played there.
weeminger
12:17 on 28 August, 2014
Transfermarkt lists 39 players in our first team squad. Of which only Liam Henderson is under 20.
That is frankly ridiculous. It’s three players for every position, the third choice in each place needs moved out. If it comes to pass that both 1st choice and reserve are injured that’s the chance for an U-19 to come in
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It’s more than three players and is I agree, ridiculous
Quality, not quanity needed
ernie lynch:
Depends on who it’s directed at ;)
I’m drawing up a list of the “acceptable forms of bigotry” right now :)
You see? I have a smile on my face and a song in my heart today!
monteblanco
Fear for pensions is justifyably real.
http://derekbateman.co.uk/2014/02/26/pensions-britains-ponzi-scheme/
Parkheadcumsalford
15:56 on
28 August, 2014
There is already plenty of evidence of the corruption practised by our current First Minister and his acolytes like MacKaskill. Just think of their claim that they could not produce the evidence which showed that Catholics are so much more likely to be attacked than any other group, because said evidence was destroyed. Only it can’t be destroyed. Look at the whole OB act they rushed through, to even things up. And, as Frank Carson was likely to say. there’s more; plenty more. All conveniently forgotten by too many on here who are clamouring for us to vote Yes.
Emotionally, I would want to vote Yes but I wouldn’t trust the current parcel of rogues as far as I could throw them. And I am not in any shape or form wanting to foist Boris or Farage on anybody. But Salmond and his coterie are not interested in a socialist wonderland in Scotland. They simply currently are targetting the Labour vote because they know that without them they haven’t a hope in hell. Scotland deserves a whole lot better than the SNP and in particular Salmond. I know it is not inevitable that, if Independence is voted for, the SNP will be voted into power but I believe that that is precisely what will happen.
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I have read this several times but, sorry, it is not not making much sense to me.
The best I can make of it is as follows:
You would like to vote YES but the Salmond and SNP will not be building a ” socialist wonderland”.
Instead you will vote NO because there is a better chance of having a UK “socialist wonderland”?
If my summary is correct then I agree with some of what you say and in the full knowledge it will not automatically bring forth a “socialist wonderland”, I have already voted YES using the privatised Royal Mail.
Richie #TeamOscarForever:
Lovely comeback brother :)
traditionalist88:
Totally agree. I struggle to reconcile the club that’s clawing its way up from the gutter at the moment as Rangers anyway. It’s the poison that goes with them that makes them any kind of reasonable facsimilie.
I’ve read people talking about this climb out of Hell as if it means they won. Even if they make it I struggle to see how this is the case.
The institution we once called Rangers was destroyed three years ago. Not beaten down, not relegated, not even merely liquidated. It was destroyed, forever.
Whatever the club playing out of Ibrox calls itself, it ain’t the same and it will never be the same again. They will always be a pale shadow of what they were.
We won mate. There is some detritus, some filth, left over … but we are the last man standing in that particular gunfight.
Voting Yes has everything to do with Salmond and the SNP.
The SNP produced the white paper.
The SNP would negotiate any secession.
It is ridiculous to assert that by not voting yes you are somehow supporting the BNP et al.
So we are to choose between one lot of UK capitalists or a Tartan lot? I choose Socialism.
I do not share values, principles or political ideals with 5 million others just by accident of birth.
traditionalist88
16:19 on 28 August, 2014
Totally agree I’m one of them I’ve not been to a game at ibrox for something like 20years and even when I did I tried to get the cheapest tkt possible in the enclosure.
By my reckoning Ronny D currently has 7 outfield players who have the ability and footballing brain to be able to adapt to his tactical plan of 90 minute commitment to a high tempo game of pass and move.
VVD
Denayer
Lustig
Biton
Rogic
McGregor
Forrest
Wakaso??
Supplement them with the 2 players who may lack speed but have the guile and experience to anchor the team
Brown
Commons
With that in mind It looks like Ronny D will have to be a lot cleverer with his team selection and tactics than he was last weekend. Even more so when you consider 3 of those 9 are injured currently.
Traditionalist88
Where is your sense of humour man.
I support Celtic with all my heart and soul.
That doesn’t mean to say, that im going clap failure, or put up with any old s**** that the board want to force on the supporters.
I have no time for people who’s only motivation in life is money.
And that’s why we are in this mess, they squander the resources on a strategy that is mince at best.
Love Celtic…yes I do, worship businessmen, certainly not.
HH
Hundreds of Scots children out of control is the conclusion of the Scottish Childrens Reporter figures in their official report.
The Scottish Governments waffling response concludes with this wonderful paragraph.
“Recorded crimes and offences are not proven offences. Police have a requirement to record all crimes under the Scottish Crime Recording Standard. This ensures consistency and a victim-centred approach to crime recording across Scotland.”
So that’ll be a No then.
The figures quoted are misleading, so the conclusions are dodgy – is really what they are saying. –
The wee wans are just referred to the childrens panel to make the victims feel better –
Our policies are working fine –
Is there a referendum in the wind?
noyes CSC
The Green Man
13:38 on 28 August, 2014
scullybhoy
Ah….the Celtic Aristocracy speaks.
As for analysis…which would you prefer, economic or historical?
You sum up totally why posters like me are required on this blog.
Don’t assume anything about me.
HH
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Me aristocracy? Pretty big assumption about me there. Is this a compliment or an insult, either way I still haven’t seen any solid proposals as to how Celtic can all of a sudden bring in the sort of players they supposedly are deliberately not buying. Oh well, must go back and polish the silver cutlery before a spot of hunting.
As regards the rabble on here, let them eat cake.
havanalaugh:
Socialism. Within the union? Hahahahahaha.
You had me going there … for just a minute you actually had me going.
James Forrest is praying for The Unconquerable Oscar Knox
I am absolutely sure that your personal view is voting Yes is not a vote for the SNP and Salmond, and I respect you for that.
But for many who are not so politically astute Salmond and the Nats are setting the agenda.
That is why they issued the White Paper which is very similar to a party manifesto. That is why Salmond is debating on behalf of the Yes campaign and that is why his personal political ratings are so important.
To summarise : If Salmond and the Nats do not convince the electorate than the Yes campaign will fail.
I also do not subscribe to the theory that my enemy’s enemy is my friend.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. HH.
DO NOT BE LULLED INTO THE EUROPA LEAGUE MYTH
Okay, I am going to put noses out of joint but hey ho, you’re big bhoys and ghirls.
There is a general feeling among our fans that the Europa League is not even a lower class European competition; nay, it appears to be regarded as under shoe scrapings.
But hold on, wasn’t this the same competition we so coveted in 2003?
“But it has gone downhill so much since then”, I hear the cry: Why is that?
When you see teams like Inter Milan, Seville, Villareal, Spurs, Napoli etc, it begs the question: Are we really above that level?
Of course not. Yet, we are prone to hearing the disparaging remarks in relation to this competition from not only the MSM but by our very own fans.
Why?
One answer could be our fanatic obsession with comparing the Scottish league with our neighbours south of the border. It doesn’t need me to point out that we can no longer compare ourselves with even the ‘smaller’ EPL teams, such as the bubble bursting economies of that monster of a league.
And therein lies the problem.
The English media is so prevalent in our footballing circles that we develop impressions based on their opinions. With the riches that befall any league placing in the EPL it is understandable that the priority of the English teams competing in the Europa League is on the domestic front.
Therefore, the opinions foisted upon those who engage with the English football media is that teams should field weakened sides in the euro competition to concentrate on domestic matters. Often EPL sides are lambasted by their own fans should they suffer a less than impressive result in the league following Europa League exploits.
However, despite our desires, we do not play in England, far from it. A club like Celtic should be playing in the Champions League and should quite rightly regard the Europa League as second best, but no less than that.
The same supporters who poo poo the Europa League are one and the same who would jump at the prospect of an Atlantic league.
Surely, plying your trade against Inter, PSV, Lyon, Fiorentina et al is worth considerably more credence than the belittling often afforded to the Europa League.
Remember our last campaign in 2011 against Atletico Madrid, Udinese and Rennes?
Did those nights not serve as a pretty decent softener to being knocked out of the Champions League?
Granted, I would prefer to be in the draw against the Barcelonas and Real Madrids of this world but I for one would relish facing any of the aforementioned teams taking part in this year’s Europa League.
Personally, I’d opt for a Boogie Wonderland if it was on offer.
The mirror stares you in the face and says: “Baby, uh, uh, it don’t work”
Dexter
15:53 on
28 August, 2014
Has the Serb signed??
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I hope so as our work permit application today was successful.
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Do you have inside info on that?? We’re talking about a work permit for the Serb striker here yeah.
kdc
scullybhoy
I might have been slightly pulling your leg…just slightly:)
HH
Life is full of disappointments.
The best way to deal with it is to get up, dust yourself down and face up to the challenges ahead.
Tuesday was a huge disappointment, no doubt, and we all to a man & woman felt let down, by the players, the manager (tactics and subs), PL etc. However, we have been here before and come through.
We are Celtic supporters faithful through and through. That to me is what defines us as a club, and why when times are tough we pull through.
This is a time for RD to settle in, get his ideas across and ingrained in his players mindset. These players (or certainly most) have been used to playing for Lenny for a long time, with his style and ideas in their subconcious minds. This has to be altered to RD’s way, and this was never going to happen overnight.
So OK we’re not at the top table this year, but we’ve got 2nd prize, the Europa. Not too long ago we reached the final of the same tournament (UEFA Cup as it was then), and I’m sure no-one would NOT want a repeat of that fantastic run. So let’s embrace the Europa this year and see how things pan out over the coming months.
Hey, how does a group of Inter Milan, Celtic, Real Sociedad and Feyenoord sound?
Sounds good to me. Lets back the bhoys (and RD & JC).
KTF!
TJ
ENOUGH! Enough, enough, enough, enough.
Can someone please help me with my vending machine choice?
Yorkie or Double Decker?
Have a referendum if you wish….
Richie, keep a diary of how you spend your pension so your grandweans know what it was like.
The folk born in the 40’s…. into a new National Health Service and it is going down the pan in the with the same generation.
Ach well, at least one generation got the benefit of it. NHS, free education, decent housing etc. etc. might as well safeguard yer pensions as well. The rest of us can whistle under the Tories for ever.
:)
I have not been this scunnered since a period in 1978 when we drew with Kilmarnock at home in the Scottish cup at Celtic park and lost the replay at Rugby park. I took a week off work I felt that bad about it. I just looked at the team on the park and thought bad times are ahead I honestly think this is more serious, we could be in a long decline if no changes are made upstairs..The very thought of big Virgil going could be the straw that broke the camels back.
The green man
If lord scullybhoy wanted his leg pulled he would ask his manservant to do it.
More tea and cake m’lord?
HH jamesgang
Greenpinata:
They’re not really setting the agenda though. They produced the White Paper, as you say, which is little more than a manifesto to run on after the election.
It’s a very big presumption on their part that they will be the people handling those negotiations, and they know it themselves.
All across the country there are people forging their own independent views on what those negotiations should involve. The National Collective. The Common Weal. The Radical Independence Campaign. Labour For Independence …. these groups have their own, very distinct, ideas about what an independent Scotland will look like and I find much of their vision far more compelling, and likely, than Salmond’s.
All this referendum is about is taking the power away from London and putting it where it belongs. As excited as I am about the referendum itself, I cannot tell you, I cannot put into words, how excited I am about what comes after it.
Building a new country from the ground up. Defining its constitution. Shaping its values.
Can you imagine anything more thrilling?
Or we can stick to where we are right now, and wait for a Tory government in 2015, and for the referendum on Europe in 2017, which will almost certainly end in withdrawal, and an insular, right wing Britain turning in on itself, the power to influence events utterly out of our hands.
Like I said, I know what I’m voting for.
adi_dasler
They were all just as culpable by their comments or silence on the issue of Deidco.
Referring to Deidco’s administration only – Salmond was prepared to make the “fabric” speech about it and as Scotland’s First Minister he had a broader responsibility than any other politician. He is merely a populist with one eye on his own agenda and thought it was a smart move at the time. His official status should have meant that he adopted a different approach.
HH
I am still undecided on my vote.
I am clear though that a vote for yes is NOT a vote for Salmond.
There will be an election in May 2016 to elect a Scottish government on independence, then votes will be for political parties/individuals.
This is a hugely important point about the referendum.
I actually believe the SNP would quickly fracture with members going their own way if independence is achieved. It is a party made up of individuals from across the political spectrum which have one common belief, independence. Once achieved there’s nothing to keep the left, right and centre of the party together.
Postal Vote will be in soon. Undecided CSC
Where’s our desperately needed striker?
catman
15:57 on 28 August, 2014
Don’t doubt you.
Just passed Evening Times hoarding at Queen Street. Headline…Celtic fight to sign striker…
Did not buy, they talking about Serb?
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Yorkie.
Why are we even talking about it?
Double Decker is last chocolate bar remaining in a selection box….even after you’ve resorted to eating the wrappers!
;-).
HH jamesgang
jamesgang
More like…Let them eat crap pizza and burgers:)
HH
James Forrest
“The flipside of that argument is that by voting No you are, by default, voting for the BNP, UKIP, the Tories, the Orange Order, Britain First, the Lib Dems and NuLabour. ”
Yes, we get a lot of that on here!
The argument has rarely risen above that level.
Except when its coupled with “I can’t understand” as in “I can’t understand why a Celtic fan will vote No” or ” I can’t understand why you can believe in independence for Ireland but not for Scotland”.
monteblanco
Aye! We can now add Aul’ Scottish Brit Bassas to thae English bassas as the cause of a No vote. We don’t need a seperate flag; we just need a Scapegoat of the Week Vote.