When I checked my phone this morning it was full of emails and texts about Kevin McKenna’s seminal article in the Observer on the treatment, or lack of it, Neil Lennon experienced during his years in Scotland. It placed a mirror in front of the former Celtic manager, for Scotland to look at its reflection.
The prime targets were not missed: the Scottish Government, the SFA and the conspicuously idle anti-racism bodies, while the “reserved professions”, the Tories and the C of S were marked for historically nurturing anti-Catholic and Irish sentiment in Scotland.
People outside Scotland will read in horror, perhaps tinged with a whiff of moral superiority that their own communities are not similarly afflicted. This, ironically, would reflect the moral superiority many in Scotland viewed the English with last week, as a sizeable minority of their apparently poorly-educated, old and white voters backed candidates who align with racist, misogynistic and homophobe views.
In CQN comments section Scotland has often been parodied as the worst small country in the world, which is absurd. In truth, its panorama of human values vary little from those shared by our neighbours or anywhere across the globe. To think otherwise invests more weight in racial traits than I’m comfortable with.
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Question
If Dermot and Peter were interviewing potential managers and the candidate said;
Give me £20 million and I think I can get you to the group stages of the CL, would their response be;
A. Ok, deal
B. Ok, but you’ll need to sell some players first
C. You can have £5m
D. Nurse!!
Got a lot of time on my hands this morning – so this outpouring of opinion is simply to clear my head – sorry if it bores you
COYLE – He turned it down before so his heart cant really be in it – plus he looks desperate – not for me – also he says the same things all the time
DI CANIO – He would be a disgrace – What he did as Sunderland would make me cringe with embarrassment if he was our Manager – headline for MSM only – never a Celtic Manager
MOYES – I thought great at Everton and sacked too early at Man Utd – can look a little boring and they say he plays cautiously ?? not very exciting but safe and secure – could be the right time to get him
GARCIA – I know very little about him – difficult to have a view – can we play like Barca??
MACKAY – Stood his ground with Tan at Cardiff (Peter will not like that) – had them playing good football – and now seems very hungry to prove himself somewhere – whoever gets him next gets a hungry animal
CLARKE – Just read on here he has a fear of the job as he has family in Scotland terrible but true ? – he sounds a bit boring on TV – but really impressive experience – not first choice but great option if needed
MACNAMARA – Nice man – learning studious type – but not yet Jackie
LARSSON – Oh I really don’t know – what a player what a history – can he do as a manager what he did as a player – I can dream – but reality kicks in – I wouldn’t gamble with him for his sake as well as ours – still my fav all time player
KEANE – What a top player – what a terrible Manager – can he learn from his mistakes – I don’t think you can change that man – no thanks
WIEGHORST – Absolutely no idea – I remember him being unwell and dealing with it with dignity – probably a real good man – but as a Manager I simply don’t know
MCCARTHY – Ipswich boring – but he did RoI and Man City so knows his way around – good ex player – but so was Mowbry – Mick is not for me
LAMBERT – Great at Norwich – does what he is told at Villa (no money after MoN) ideal fit for Celtic- but not very ambitious (but great work with kids to keep Villa in Prem)
Some outrages thoughts that would make me feel good about Celtics ambition
SEEDORF – AC Milan not happy – he loved playing at Celtic Park – loved the style – Dutch playing style – big outsider – but I love thinking “out the box”
PHEALAN – Sir Alex right hand man for 10 years – long shot I know – it would get you excited – he would not need educating
Who do I want – MOYES
Who will we get – LARSSON
Well its never boring is it
Hail Hail
67ECW
James gang……
Correct….
Farage is a very intelligent ‘fool’…….very,very intelligent guy.His personna should kid nobody.
Dangerously intelligent……that’s what is worrying.
Griffin and his BNP stooges are thick as pigshit by comparison.
Eddieinkirkmichael
There is an interesting section on SPFL keeping an eye on unpaid tax.
I wonder if it has always been there or HMRC have been doing a bit of insisting?
As a tax payer -not before time and something that would have been necessary once the UK taxpayer wakens up to how much poor governance by the SFA and SPL cost them.
Ernie Lynch
Afraid not.
Clearly you cannot read.
When did I say the Scots all have identical interests – that is ludicrous. It is clear from these results we don’t and that is fine in any democracy but the difference comes down to size, not nationality.
The Scottish electorate includes people from all walks of life including EU born citizens as does the English electorate.
A higher percentage of people in England (of whichever background) find resonance with the UKIP message than in Scotland and the facts bear this out and you can go and count it up if you like.
I repeat if Scotland’s electorate vote one way and England’s votes another we must go with what they decide and accept it as part of the union simply because they are bigger so who’s your money on?
If you believe Scotland and England will both vote the same way you are entitled to do so. All I am pointing out is the very real threat to the wishes of the Scottish electorate to an increasingly more right wing agenda being aimed at and supported by voters in the largest constituent part of these islands.
I never said it was impossible that both parts COULD vote the same way making it a joint and equal decision, I merely pointed out that the likelihood is far different considering around 60% of our electorate have just voted for 2 pro-EU parties while in England around the same number have voted for two Euro-Sceptic parties who may or could be forming an alliance shortly.
Again, do you feel lucky?
I don’t.
Nigel Farage British Hero !!!!
The Churchill Of Our Times..
The UKippers Deserve A Victory Flypast..
Perhaps A Few Spitfires And A Lancaster..
Trailing The UKip Fleg…
Reminding Us Of Our Real BRITISH IDENTITY….
British..NOT European!
Join UKip…Get Your Country Back..
The People’s Fleg Is Deepest Purple..
Viva Bold Petec,.!
Up The HOOPS..!
( Oweny For Me..)
timbhoy2
As QAW told you, Steve Evans specifically dedicated his win to The Circuit in Cambuslang, so not strictly Glasgow. Don’t know if he lived there but his brother still does, it seems.
As for why not Owen Coyle, well the reasons many of us feel discomfort is that he turned us down when we wanted him but now he seems keen when he wants us. I think he will be seen by many as having turned down his chance and should, therefore be beyond consideration.
DBBIA
You seem to think I only talk about horses. In fact your always nagging me about it. You’re becoming a dam nuisance.I personally think your views are blinkered. So, nae mare. I’ll be keeping track of your posts in future and it’s odds on I’ll be pulling you up on it in if it carries on. The going is gonna get tough. You can bet on that. This has gone on furlong enough. The stakes are going up.
Funny seeing the SNPists on this site desperately denying that Scotland isn’t as prone to nut-job nationalism as anywhere else, when the evidence from last night suggests otherwise (and throw in the baleful experience of Neil Fancis Lennon and you could argue that Scotland is actually worse!)
People are more or less the same everywhere in UK. Same hopes, fears, collective experience… Plenty of morons everywhere, plenty of good folk too.
SNP seeks to persuade us otherwise in the face of all available evidence and of common sense.
Snake Plissken
12:23 on 26 May, 2014
The turnout was 33%.
33%.
UKIP’s MEPs will disappear off to Europe and be lost from sight.
At the General Election UKIP might, if they’re lucky, get 1 MP.
They’ll get no more.
If there’s an EU referendum it will be decisively in favour of staying in.
Boring reality doesn’t sell newspapers.
how come sevco will have a bigger budget ,than the rest of them. i thought they were skint. oh and another thing pay your debts to the ordinary man and woman, you have shafted, pay the manager a huge salary and cant pay off debts ,something stinks .
Twists- I enjoy your ole posts, on the various veterinary vexations of our leading thoroughbreds.
Until they publish ‘the further adventures of James Herriot’ your equine case histories will more than suffice.
DBBIA/SeigfriedFarnonCSC
Snake Plissken
It’s been 2 decades since Labour has resembled anything like a left wing party.
It’s clear England, is moving towards the right. I don’t think the Tories will form an official alliance with UKIP, but there will be a tactical nod and a wink to avoid competing against each other in certain marginal seats.
It looks more than likely it will be another hung parliament, so coalitions will be formed to make up the Government. The pro Europe Lib Dems will be decimated again, UKIP could well be the kingmakers.
We’ve been somewhat sheltered in the last few years, protected from the worst of the cuts for fear of driving people to vote Yes. In the event of a no vote in the Independence referendum, the Tories will be able to pick up cheap votes in England by hammering home some crushing austerity measures north of the border. They know there will be no political repercussions for them, in reality quite the opposite, and we will have given them a mandate to do so.
The choice in September will be to go it alone and determine our own future, or be dragged kicking and screaming to the right with England.
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I have conducted my own recruitment process for our vacant managerial position over the weekend, including extensive background checks, and I’ve reached the conclusion that the best man for the job is Oscar Garcia.
Descendent from the Cruyff / Van Gaal line of coaches, and with knowledge of Celtic having been part of Barcelona visiting parties, a bright young manager, hungry, ambitious, tactically astute, with great contacts and knowledge of the English game.
He also has a commitment to playing football. Pure, beautiful, inventive football. That is how you put bums on seats, not just for a few games, but for the long term.
67ECW
Seedorf!?!
Seriously left field. At last. A proper new name to conjure with?
Probably never happen. But if it did I can categorically predict it would either be brilliant or a disaster.
NoMiddleGroundButStillSittingOnTheFenceCSC!
HH jamesgang
Just had a look at some centre court tickets for mens final at Wimbledon. I’m afraid having a look was about the best I could hope for. £2619 a brief. Don’t suppose anyone on CQN can get me 2 for a tenner?
Seriously, anyone any contacts in that area? Will pay a decent amount, but not £2k!
Gordon J
It makes perfect sense.
Scotland is a nation, not a region but you clearly don’t like that so there is nothing I can do for you.
If England votes to leave and Scotland votes to stay I say that is not democratic and I say we are being led by the nose because we are a nation made up of many different groups of people including EU citizens who will also have to comply with that decision.
The UK is a union
Scotland is a nation within that union
Yorkshire is a region within another nation within that union
Glasgow is a city within the union within a region of that smaller nation as a supposed equal partner.
If this nation as part of the union votes one way and the bigger nation votes another we must abide by their decision. If you are happy with that arrangement, go for your life but don’t complain when you’re led by the nose, you wanted it.
Bottom line
Scotland may vote differently from the rUK but you are fine with abiding by the decisions other people make for you.
I favour self determination for the people who live in the nation I care about. If that makes me a bad person then so be it.
Feckin Scottish UKIP MEP’s address is in Kensington!
Some irony there.
These people come up here taking our jobs blah blah.
DBBIA –
I thought vexinations was when you got a tetanus shot in an Edinburgh surgery?
Lyruc
The Singing Detective…..
All about opinion but are you at the wind up?
I did like your nurse Joanna Whalley in the TV series though.
One of the most gorgeous British actresses ever.
DembonesdembonesCSC
Johnny Rambo67,
“The choice in September will be to go it alone and determine our own future, or be dragged kicking and screaming to the right with England.”
How will this “going it alone” be accomplished if we are using the same currency as the rUK? Genuine question.
Snake Plissken
“The UKIP win has been facilitated by a poor turn out, poor campaigning from the SNP and others, poor tactical voting and a constant barrage for Farage from the BBC and other media outlets who have pushed this party onto not only Scottish screens but English.”
We have been telling you for a long time that Scotland was no paradise where we were just about to institute a Socialist Republic as soon as we voted for Independence. If we were, why do we need to retain the symbol of English Monarchy within the Yes Vote proposals. The Euro elections vote was much closer to English levels of UKIP voting than you are able to admit because it interferes with your projection of what Scottish voters are. Now, for me, i think it is largely a protest vote for a party with fantasy policies. We all like to blame our troubles on others and that’s what they are peddling. If it wasn’t for that nasty Europe telling us to straighten our bananas and cucumbers everything would be fine. If it wasn’t for all those foreigners there would be no recession and no lost jobs. Simplistic and stupid but an attractive lie to believe. Blaming it on the BBC is risible, just as blaming the Glasgow Uni Student No vote on foreign students was. The BBC is seen as hostile to them by UKIP and they have not had representation in line with their voting size.
“It seems to me quite a few Labourites are high fiving each other and are glad UKIP got a seat because they can make a tenuous link across the islands in their favour. When a supposedly left wing party’s supporters (not all I grant you) find some perverse pleasure in seeing UKIP succeed, I would say game’s a bogey and we are through the looking glass.”
I dare you to spot any glee in what Gordon J, myself or even ernie lynch posted about this. You are shooting the messenger again. This tendency exists in our country too and it needs to be opposed not diminished. There is no pleasure in being proven right here. You seem to be projecting that because of your resentment at finding Scotland to be less ideal than you imagined it to be. What we need is a realistic opposition to the simplistic , stupid and cruel policies of these parties, not a policy of ignoring them or blaming it on English sympathisers corrupting our natural Scottish traits. We need to take responsibility for our own voters.
SFTB
It’s not that Cole turned us down its his reasons which as I recall had a lot to do with playing budget.
Now I don’t know the alignment between Bolton ‘ s crippling debt and OC’s timeline there but Bolton are in an increase debt mess.
Apart from that his choice would suggest he is of the Harry Redknapp school of management in terms of buying rather than building a team.
For those reasons rather than a lady spurned I’d be surprised if he is in the running unless he has some good player development evidence on his CV.
Snake,
“I favour self determination for the people who live in the nation I care about.”
Why are you voting Yes then, because it’s clear that that isn’t what’s on offer?
Cole=Coyle.
SFTB,
Hear, hear.
Ernie Lynch
If you feel lucky then go for your life.
Don’t come crying if it all goes awry.
JonnyRambo67
That is what I keep telling people. If people believe Labour will be any better in the current circumstances they are not and have not been paying attention.
The news is full of politicians telling us how their parties,which had a bad election,have actually done well and it’s the others that should be worried.
And they wonder why we don’t trust them.
James gang……
Seriously left field as a Manager who wants CL experience as a number 1……
Step forward Zinedine Zidane……..
Maybe still score for fun too?
Twists n Turns
If your next tip comes up I’ll see what I can do
Just watched the ABC Four Corners report about match fixing involving the Socceroos (they were the victims btw).
Just as well Scottish football can rest assured that the SFA could never be caught in any match fixing scandals.
Oh wait….
Snake Plissken,
That only makes sense if you view Scotland as a homogeneous block of people who all have the same views and interests, and England as a different homogeneous block of people with shared but different views and interests.
The political reality is that in any country there will be widely differing views. The same in any region, city, town, village, street and in many cases, house. So the idea that there is a “Scottish” view and an “English” view just sums up the basic oversimplification of a nationalist viewpoint.
JonnyRambo67
12:34 on 26 May, 2014
‘It looks more than likely it will be another hung parliament,’
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/10854513/Lord-Ashcroft-poll-Labour-on-course-to-win-general-election.html
Italia Bhoy
Rome wasn’t built in a day. In the event of a Yes vote, having a currency pact with rUK will be beneficial -not essential- to enabling a smooth transition.
It will give the emerging political parties, hopefully led by a Scottish Labour worthy of the name, time to consider whether they wish to remain in a Sterling Zone, move to the Euro Zone, or set up a Scottish currency.
They can then put their proposals to the Scottish people who can vote accordingly.
jamesgang
12:34 on
26 May, 2014
I know – I keep myself busy thinking up highly unlikely candidates – makes you think thou??
ryecatcher
12:44 on
26 May, 2014
There is an argument that says he is still god enough to play for us let alone manage us – but I love your thinking
67ECW
twentyfirstofmaynineteenseventynine
Geez mate we will need a scoop 6 up at those prices. Just found another 2, looking for over 3 grand each.
Rye catcher
Now it’s getting really interesting. Though a bit unreal sadly!
HH jamesgang
TnT
think you’re gelding the lily there…
All on CQN are invited to the first ever CQN POOL TOURNAMENT.
It take place on Saturday the 5th of July at Scotland’s best pool & snooker venue,Styx in Kirkcaldy.
The start time will be 2.00pm.
All are invited to be at the venue for 13.00.
I hope to raise a wee bit for charity and had a few beers and some good craic.
This is an open invite to all on CQN.
You can come along just to enjoy a few beers with fellow Tim’s ,or you can enter and enjoy the tournament aswell.
We have 15 entrants already.
I will stress that you do not need to be a pool player to enter.
This is about a good day out as an excuse to maybe help some others.
If you have an interest in attending to either play or spectate ( get drunk) then leave a message on here or contact me through Paul67.
This will be the day after the CQN Golf open at Aberdour ,so some may wish to make a couple of days out of it.
Aberdour to Kirkcaldy is about 20 mins by car .
Hail! Hail!
TinyTim