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Alloa will beat Sevco today.
I am convinced of it for a number of reasons , nothing of which is to do with football.
The big man up in heaven will take care of it !
1. They are bigots and racists.
2. They are cheats.
3. They don’t pay their bills.
4.They are fick
5. They have no style or class.
6.They are corrupt .
7.They are zombies
Hail Hail
Go on Paul !
ASonOfDan :)))
More fun to come with the 4 month old club,
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More specifically – and of special significance – it is clearly aimed at the fan investors, those courted by Green over the past few weeks in the hope of seducing great numbers of them to spend the minimum £500 on new stock.
Institutional investors, the kind most coveted by any company in the process of a flotation, are not in the business of being wooed by the sudden appearance of a figure from the past whose achievements are irrelevant to the present. The Smith business, in short, suggests strongly that, in advance of the event, institutional investors are thin on the ground.
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Off out today from ML5 to vale of leven to catch up with old friends.
BMCUWP, your package is on it’s way.
Sub postmistress Hettie McClockerty assures me it should arrive no later than Monday.
Enjoy
ACGR
A few buses leaving from ML5 to support alloa today :)))
A CRACKDOWN on sectarian chanting among football fans is being undermined by the unreliability of police evidence in court, a leading QC has warned.
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Legislation was brought in last season outlawing offensive behaviour at and around matches, and those found guilty of singing offensive songs face a maximum of five years in prison.
But following two cases in which supporters were cleared of the crime after doubt was cast over the evidence of officers involved in their arrest, Brian McConnachie QC has claimed sheriffs are reluctant to convict unless the evidence is clear-cut.
He said the required standard of evidence in such cases was increasingly difficult to reach and doubts about what officers heard could be exploited in court.
Mr McConnachie said: “Evidence to prosecute in these type of cases is a pretty difficult standard to reach. It’s all about what police officers or someone else has heard and what a sheriff can say has left him or her beyond reasonable doubt. When you have 50 or 60 people singing the same song and you pull out one person from the crowd, then the opportunity for doubt about what you’ve heard must be high.
“It’s difficult for the police in these situations. They may well have heard what they’ve claimed but the evidential position is difficult to satisfy.”
It came after the case against Celtic fan Kieran Docherty, 20, who was charged with breach of the peace and conducting himself in a disorderly manner, was found not proven. He was alleged to have shouted “Oo Ah up the Ra” – a reference to the IRA – at a match between Celtic and Inverness Caledonian Thistle in February.
But the case fell apart after a police sergeant admitted under cross-examination during the trial that she could not lip read and that nobody except herself had reacted to or been alarmed by the song.
Sergeant Eleanor Murdoch’s colleague, Sergeant Ian Spence, was asked how, if he was six metres away from Mr Docherty, he could be certain he could hear the accused singing the song given there were many others singing different words around him. Both officers had been monitoring the travelling support.
Sheriff Halley said he was unable to accept Ms Murdoch’s evidence “in some respects”, with Mr Spence’s contribution described as unreliable.
It follows a rising number of complaints to the procurator-fiscal regarding behaviour at football matches, many of which either fail to reach the court or are dismissed, with few successfully prosecuted.
Rangers fan Connor McGhie was found guilty of behaving in a threatening or abusive manner by repeatedly singing abusive and sectarian songs at a match between his side and Inverness Caledonian Thistle on February 26. The 19-year-old is appealing the three-month sentence he received at Inverness Sheriff Court.
Advocate and human rights expert Niall McCluskey said the scope of the Offensive Behaviour at Football legislation was so wide that it could lead to over-zealous policing.
He added: “Not when we’re talking things which are gratuitously sectarian and racist, but at the end of the day you’ve got to cut a bit of slack with what people can do in that environment.
“The idea that police officers themselves are the offended party is just crazy.
“There are comparisons with the way in which the authorities clamp down on social media – leeway has to be given to general rabble-rousing behaviour.”
Mr Docherty, from Greenock, claimed he was singing another version of the offensive line, “Oo ah Samaras” – a reference to Celtic striker Georgios Samaras.
He pleaded not guilty to the allegations.
Here´s a tip for the Orcs in the Breeders Cup at Santa anita tonight.
22.58 Santa Anita.
No 11. amazombie
Before I goIf anyone missed Phils latest from last night
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/getting-sick-of-the-truth/#more-3300
Evidence given in court by some serving police officers is as reliable as an MP submitting claims for expenses!
HH!!
The former Rangers went bust after spending millions they didn’t have.
The former Rangers won trophies with a lot of highly paid players.
Are we surprised that the media refuses to see the connection between these two facts??
The Orcs have run their race.
They are doomed, banished from the top flight forever.
They will never recover, hell mend them!
tallybhoy – i second that – about as reliable as the accused – both just there for the win
DR back page headline – ‘Hatchet Men’
Ian Black claims players are getting away
with murder – ffs whats the betting Alloa
get a man or men sent off!
@Paulmcc12: Bill McMurdo’s piece today is well worth a read, and not just because my blog gets a mention! Drawing A Line http://t.co/jQC3SDjS
Did someone whack McMurdo in the head after reading that article.
Told on thursday Spurs have been scouting Dylan mcgeoch for over a year and will make a move in January
valentine’s day
10:02 on 3 November, 2012
DR back page headline – ‘Hatchet Men’
Ian Black claims players are getting away
with murder – ffs whats the betting Alloa
get a man or men sent off!
Yeah read it but that’s their tactics put pressure on the refs old Walter was a master at it.
Hugh Keevins called Black a thug and does anyone remember he put Jellyfish out for months but no doubt that’s all forgot about now because he’s 1 of them.
Ian Black complaining about bad tackles? That’s like Mark Hately complaining that football pundits can’t spoke proper like.
Ooh Aah Alloa, Ooh Aah Alloa,
Ooh Aah Alloa, Ooh Aah Alloa!
I said Ooh Aah Alloa.
‘Mon Paul Hartleys Boys.
Top of the morning to you all from a sunny Fife.
Ian Black went from being a thug to an international midfield maestro in a few months.
Was it coincidental that he joined the Huns during this transformational period?
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Pauloantony 10:04
They can scout all they want, i cannot see Lenny selling Dylan who i think is a star in the making.
Dylan,Tony Watt and Filip Twardzik will be playing next year on a more regular basis in the first team. James Forrest seems to be going back the way in his development which i find worrying.
Hoping our team go on a winning run in the league so Dylan will get more game time.
KTF
Henrick
It is an interesting development. The Spoiled Child of Scottish football being told by one of its own to grow up by accepting responsibility.
The first sign of the final stage of grief at a loss – Acceptance.
Now if McMurdo could accept the role his own attitude has played in the downfall of his club progress might be possible.
Ian Black is a very typical bully of a player, he starts greetin’ as soon as the going gets tough, imagine a grown man with a reputation as a “football hardman” greetin’ to the papers about tough tackles, what a complete muppet..
Davie Hay he’s not…
Doc
Be careful – PC Murdoch might arrest you for that…
They are scum they are trying to put pressure on the referees because their manager is clueless they need all the help they can get.
I remember a caller on SSB spoke to Andy Walker about the tackles against Celtic players from Davie Weir and Zheng Zi in an OF game and his response was he loves a hard game with lots of meaty challenges so I’ll await his comments regarding Ian Black in today’s DR.
If you ask any Sevco fan today if they would give us 10 in a row but by doing so it meant keeping rfc 1872 alive, I reckon 100% would pull your arm off.
So on that note, its a huge Thank you to Walter (Viv Nicholson) Smith. The man who dreaded the thought of it and took the fatal decision to spend spend spend. He got 3 in a row for his money, but his club got a lifer for it.
And they want him back?
stupid stupid huns.
hh
@scotzine: Anyone else nearly choke on their weetabix reading Ian Black’s comments about being booted around pitch in DIV3 #ironic
LoL.
I woke up and asked the missus if it was April.
Did Murray use EBT’s for 9IAR ?
Morning Bhoys,
Any tips for today?
I quite fancied Leicester City or Cardiff but not too sure if their form.
Hail hail
JB
They must be desperate to get back into the SPL so the refs can give them a wee helping hand.
Big Nan and others.
Keep an eye on how this SG initiative develops.
How well balanced is that panel and where will they gather their evidence?
http://news.ulster.ac.uk/releases/2012/6563.html
I’m not suggesting anything untoward, indeed it could lead to effective change but the Celtic supporting community at large should be keeping a watching brief on this as much as the passage of the Offensive Behaviour bill.
auldheid
10:25 on 3 November, 2012
Henrick
It is an interesting development. The Spoiled Child of Scottish football being told by one of its own to grow up by accepting responsibility.
The first sign of the final stage of grief at a loss – Acceptance.
Now if McMurdo could accept the role his own attitude has played in the downfall of his club progress might be possible.
Correct matey but I’m not convinced he’s turned a corner, I’m always weary when it comes to them especially when he’s being nice.
Ian Blacks outburst shows they are worried and will use every advantage they can beg from the MIBs as the prepare to face the goliath that is Alloa Athletic FC . I smell chocolate.
Ian black …… Hilary arse… But thats what sneaky wee ankle biters do when the real devil dogs come along
hen1rik, when you see some of the tackles the old Rangers put in against us you really start to question our sanity. Why did we not make more noises about unfair treatment. There was the infamous Bougherra and Keane game, then the assaults by Cousin on McManus, targeting of Izzy, the tackle on Hinkel. Disgusting challenges that were illegal and career threatening.
Auldheid
10:38 on 3 November, 2012
Big Nan and others.
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Auldheid the only appropriate person to head a committee to examine sectarianism in Scotland would be a Scandinavian academic.
Someone who could come into the room and view it in a truly dispassionate manner.
Ulster specialists come with baggage of one sort or another.
Des Kelly article on Jeff Winter. Halfway down the page!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2227148/Chelseas-credibility-crashing-Des-Kelly.html
mullet and co
10:46 on
3 November, 2012
Agreed matey but we’re as hard as nails not like the big lassies in div 3 ;)