No deal for Celtic and Roberts as both look elsewhere

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After edging ever-closer to a deal for weeks, it looks certain Patrick Roberts will not be playing for Celtic next season. You are well-aware Celtic have been desperate to secure his permanent signing from Manchester City, but I have it on good authority that the club and player are now looking elsewhere.

Brendan Rodgers has both budget and ambition for the season ahead and Patrick was a big part of those plans, but the manager has now moved attention elsewhere (and I don’t mean to Aberdeen).

Patrick blossomed here, in particular during the second half of last season. He is an entertainer in the great Celtic tradition, but I have confidence in the manager to deliver what is required for the challenges ahead.

We wish Patrick all the best and thank him for a great 18 months.


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  1. BMCUWP

     

     

    A proper snigger out loud. Do you notice I have gone back to my original moniker?

     

     

     

    Jimbo57

  2. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    This Spain v Macedonia is a great game.

     

    Lots of skill and spectacular goals.

     

    Spain 3 v 0 Macedonia HT.

     

     

    Welcome to Celtic Jonny Hayes 7.

  3. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    THEHUDDLE

     

     

    I sure hope so,but he is one of the top guys in his game. He certainly wished us no ill-will during the programme,far from it,but he was utterly adamant on a number of things.

     

     

    UK does not have any trade negotiators,it has been done on our behalf by the EU for decades.

     

     

    No-one wants to negotiate on behalf of the UK as it’s from a position of no strength whatsoever. No-one wants to be remembered as a loser. You spend a lifetime as a winner,to end up wi the worst possible job,and your bosses are May,Boris,Davis. And not paying enough in the first place.

     

     

    My point isn’t about rights and wrongs of Brexit,I think everyone knows my thoughts on that. My point is that we haven’t got a single skilled trade commissioner to get us out of the hole we are in,and the top guy is telling us wur f….d.

     

     

    Apart from May,Boris,Davis,Gove and The Daily Mail telling all those bliddy furners that we’ll get them,you know

     

     

    It would make you weep…

  4. clogher celt on

    SFTB

     

     

    44.7% of the electorate in 2014 didn’t share your view. That was despite an unprecedented campaign by the might of the media, virtually every political party, the institutions, banks, Orange Order etc.

     

     

    We are where we are though. Theresa and the DUP.

     

     

    It’s thoroughly depressing that there is a complete lack of vision, hope, a resignation to inequality.A resignation to the status quo which delivers to; and terrorizes enough of the population to ensure the continuance of the system.

     

     

    Perhaps you might consider that the perceived lack of concern for the poor, aged and vulnerable by the No is insulting too. Perhaps the rejection of Scottish culture and history a little insulting?

     

    The ‘I’m alright (Union) Jack.’Let’s stick with Thatcher’s, Blair’s, Cameron’s and now May’s Scotland.

     

    My grandparents lived in different times. The General Strike, WW11, influence of the Church.

     

    Those generations were primarily motivated by survival post An Gorta Mor. My family saw themselves as dispossessed Irish men/women. Their allegiances were mainly with Ireland, especially given the harsh circumstances they found themselves in the late 19th/20th century. The had to fight with the locals to survive and protect their identity.

     

    They lived in a completely different world. Three or four generations on we should be leading and shaping a decent inclusive Scotland, challenging. Not rolling over.

     

    No-one expected the gift of a simple Yes or No vote on Scottish membership of the Union.

     

     

    They were never given the opportunity to tear up the ‘blue’print and start again.

     

     

    We were.

     

     

    I watched McGlashan on You Tube. It’s disappointing that anyone would identify that stereotype as anything to do with Scotland. Similar to the stereotype presented as the ‘thick Paddy . Manipulation by the media, I suppose. The same media that batters Celtic FC. I won’t list a whole number of similar stereotypes, which I am sure you can imagine.

     

     

    Why did these stereotypes emerge? Maybe we are all conditioned by this patronizing nonsense.

     

     

    ‘The english, as regards Scotland, are not so bad…(as compared to Ireland) ‘ Why too were Scotland and Ireland ‘late to the party’?

     

     

    Maybe my 30 years, or so out of Glasgow has created a vision of what the country could be and a refusal to resign myself to a ‘not so bad’ philosophy…that’s probably to my cost.

     

     

    Maybe ‘the game’s a bogey’ for Scotland.

     

     

    I think we should leave it here.

     

     

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    Ernie Lynch,

     

     

    Typo sorry.

     

     

    Thanks again for your invaluable (UK) Unionist political nouse over the years. It must be some sense of some achievement to be where we are.

     

     

    Perhaps you have been conditioned by McGlashan too?

     

     

    Well Done:)

     

     

    Maybe you’ll post an apology at some point:)

     

     

    HH

     

     

     

    Mickbhoy,

     

     

    The DUP are too busy negotiating to run the UK to talk to anyone else moment ;) Who will they send to Europe to negotiate on your behalf?

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    JIMBO67

     

     

    Eh?

     

     

    Of course I did,ya haufwit.

     

     

    Just tell ye I’m a pedant.

     

     

    Ffs,canny ejikait pork right enuff.

     

     

    Btw,I had a fantastic time in Lisbon,all the better for the company-especially my Dad and TEUCHTERARLA. What a guy,stays in Toronto,accent still in Winchburgh. WITS is thinking of doing a rerun next year,and I noted your interest.

     

     

    I’m up for that,Jim.

  6. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 17th June 2017 8:51 pm

     

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    The guy didn’t think £260k a year was enough of a wage, I don’t know how much a negotiator should get but I doubt what we agree will be the deciding factor when companies want to do deals with 65 mill people.

  7. BMCUWP

     

     

    Definitely. Vegas was a blast again but will give 2019 a miss. Hopefully make the 10 In A Row celebrations in 2021 though!

     

     

    Been a fantast8c few weeks to be a Tim. Even if everything else in the world is beyond dreadful.

     

     

    Jimbo67

  8. glendalystonsils on

    The fitba vacuum is filled with mince and ennui………….’sigh’…………

  9. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    CLOGHERCELT

     

     

    Maybe it’s just depressing that not enough people saw your vision of the future. Me,I’m glad that more than half of the people who voted could add up.

     

     

    Meantime,I’m thoroughly p’d that a country which in my 50+ years never resorted to acrimony in politics is reduced to cyberhatred.

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    THEHUDDLE

     

     

    Oh,it’s a huge amount of money. And it’s a hugely expensive place to live.

     

     

    And it’s a hugely specialised job,the future of a nation relies on it,a nation with no-one wi a clue.

     

     

    Name your price,I reckon.

  11. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 17th June 2017 9:07 pm

     

    Oh,it’s a huge amount of money. And it’s a hugely expensive place to live.

     

     

    And it’s a hugely specialised job,the future of a nation relies on it,a nation with no-one wi a clue.

     

    Name your price,I reckon.

     

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    I don’t know, the market will decide what will happen after brexit, all we are negotiating is what deals with have with the EU. There’s the rest of the world out there, and the EU sells lots to the UK, it’s not a one way street despite what the EU threaten.

     

     

    We’ll either have an agreement with the EU or we won’t, it’s not really a tough decision, the EU agree or they don’t. I know that’s simplistic, but it’s also simplistic to think that the world ends of the UK if they don’t have an agreement. We all know that won’t matter, there’s a big bad world out there, and rich people need to make more money

  12. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Nice touch from Jonny re Aberdeen kits, shows a good heart and a wee bit of humility , in these days of spoiled rotten overpaid prima donnas.

  13. Spanish U21 team are good, would be interesting to see them against the French.

     

     

    As they make it 5 nil Asensio with a hat trick, what a player

  14. BABASONICOS71 on

    STARRY…

     

    Proper justice will be a long,long time coming.The ones who need a cover-up will be the ones with plenty of resources and influence.The ones requiring justice will be squeezed of their infinitely lesser resources.

     

    I have no faith in the established order providing satisfactory,honest answers when investigating their own.Lets face it,most of the souls who were lost in the fire were the same kind of folk Cameron described as a ‘swarm’ so any sympathy professed from those responsible will be plastic.Like Hillsborough any justice will take decades to come.Money trumps mankind in a capitalist society. :(((

  15. BMCUW,

     

    I went to send you an e mail but you have disappeared from my contacts,

     

    can you send me a quick mail so i can add you in again,cheers

  16. INVINCIBLE 'GG on

    AngelGabriel

     

    Just read back and offer thoughts and prayers for your struggles and achievements.

  17. PARK ROAD 67

     

     

    Hi mate Ann and I hope both you and E have a bumper last night and a safe trip home tomorrow.

     

     

    The next HOOT is a definite and i’ll see you there.

     

     

    KEEP THE FAITH

  18. GG

     

     

    “I’m a wee bit wary of us taking a 5 million gamble on an inexperienced Centre back plying his trade in Ligue 2.”

     

     

    There’s no certainty we are signing this player and no certainty thatthis is the fee (there may be achievements e.g. number of first team apps for celtic or international caps for France that may bump up the total cost).

     

     

    But there is value to be found outside the top leagues. The top 5 leagues do not see the SPFL as being any better tandard than Ligue 2 or The Championship. Yet RB Leipzig paid £13m for Oliver Burke, Leicester bought Riyad Mahrez from Ligue 2 and many top English, french and German clubs have sourced players from their lowerr leagues so we should not be too sniffy about it.

     

     

    The only question is – Is he any good?

  19. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Jimbo, at 4.18, sorry for delay in replying.

     

     

    I had forgotten about Ian Andrews or as a pal called him, Coco the Clown.

     

     

    A few weeks into the 88/89 season , the front cover of Not the View had a picture of Pat Bonner on it with aption , get well soon.

  20. !!Bada Bing!! on

    SFTB- I hope you are well, i have been saying for years that we should be scouting teams in 2nd Divs in Spain Italy etc, and lower teams in the top leagues, they are not all on silly money

  21. INVINCIBLE 'GG on

    SFTB

     

    The only question is he ny good.

     

    Indeed .

     

    Has he been tested sufficiently in the lower division?

     

    How will he stand up to CL competition, for that is the real measure we should be considering.

     

    Hopefully he will assume the Bobo mantle.

  22. INVINCIBLE 'GG on

    For anyone watching the US Open

     

    Apart from it’s Irish affiliations, Erin Hills golf course and the village is overlooked by the National Holy Hill Shrine of Mary, Help of Christians.

  23. INVINCIBLE ‘GG

     

     

     

    The unborn are lucky really. They won’t be Judged.

     

     

    I know I will be there in front of the Almighty for longer than most.

     

     

    Oh Father

  24. Clogher Celt

     

     

    “44.7% of the electorate in 2014 didn’t share your view. That was despite an unprecedented campaign by the might of the media, virtually every political party, the institutions, banks, Orange Order etc.”

     

     

     

    And so, 55.3% did and guy few of them were taken in by the OO, a peripheral influence on the outcome. There was a campaign and it was biased but it was dirty on both sides. You are only looking through one end of the lens.

     

     

     

     

     

    “It’s thoroughly depressing that there is a complete lack of vision, hope, a resignation to inequality.A resignation to the status quo which delivers to; and terrorizes enough of the population to ensure the continuance of the system.”

     

     

    There is actually nothing of the kind. You lost a vote not the will to live or the keys to paradise. There were people with and without vision on both sides of the debate and this was one vote in 2014- The one thing about status quo (not the band) is that it is forever changing. We are just as transformed, or not, by winning or losing this vote. You talk as if we lost the chance to be happy, fulfilled, more creative and have more vivid sex lives. No one was terrorized but a lot of us were bruised by the setting of standards for being acceptable as a Scot. I half-expected to be told “The UK is over- why don’t you go home?”

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “Perhaps you might consider that the perceived lack of concern for the poor, aged and vulnerable by the No is insulting too. Perhaps the rejection of Scottish culture and history a little insulting?”

     

     

    There was no lack of concern for this by any side in the debate. If you choose to adopt this perception then it is clear to see why you could consider that Scottish history and culture has been rejected. You are merely co-opting sentiments to your own side exclusively that belong to all of us.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    “My grandparents lived in different times. The General Strike, WW11, influence of the Church.

     

     

    Those generations were primarily motivated by survival post An Gorta Mor. My family saw themselves as dispossessed Irish men/women. Their allegiances were mainly with Ireland, especially given the harsh circumstances they found themselves in the late 19th/20th century. The had to fight with the locals to survive and protect their identity.”

     

     

    And yet many stayed and lived here and became Irish-Scots or Scots- Irish and still did not see much attraction to the always available independence option. In my church-going days, I heard many a sermon warning of positions taken by the Labour Party and more than tacit support by some church spokesmen for the Tory candidate but I never heard any admonition against the SNP. It was known about and available as a vote but it was never seen as relevant enough either to argue in favour or against it. Our identity as the Irish in Scotland has survived- that batlle has been won- and is irrelevant to our views as pro or con independence.

     

     

     

     

    “They lived in a completely different world. Three or four generations on we should be leading and shaping a decent inclusive Scotland, challenging. Not rolling over.”

     

     

    None of them rolled over, ever. And certainly not by failing to see the attraction in an SNP vote. What is it about the passage of 3 or 4 generations (why not one or two or six or eleven) that makes Independence any more relevant. Have we become more oppressed by the English? I must have missed that.

     

     

    No, our choice remains as it always was. Choose to return to Ireland as our identified land, beconme a Scot within the UK, or become a Scot agitating for an Independent Scotland. All are legitimate choices and there is nothing new now that our forefathers did not face. In fact they faced much more hostile and demeaning attitudes and they would have more cause to have turned away but they did not.

     

     

     

     

    “No-one expected the gift of a simple Yes or No vote on Scottish membership of the Union.

     

    They were never given the opportunity to tear up the ‘blue’print and start again.”

     

     

    Eveyone knew that if sufficient people wanted Scottish Independence, if they felt it could offer them any more safety within a hostile (and the hostility came mostly from fellow Scots not Englishmen) environment, then they would have joined the SNP, expanded the party base, and they knew, in their bones, that if sufficient numbers of themselves andtheir fellow Scots voted for it – Independence would happen. Nations were leaving the Empire every decade of the 20th century but our forefathers saw no merit or need to go down that road until very recently.

     

     

     

     

    I am quite prepared to let our spat lie but I am not prepared to see history re-written or our pre-decessors traduced for their lack of enthusiasm for Independence, an enthusiasm that you see as obvious and unquestionable.

     

     

    I remain a proud Scot, proud of my Irish inheritance and connections. I do not need to be an Independent Scot to hold my head high in their company.

  25. GG

     

     

    ‘Has he been tested sufficiently in the lower division?

     

     

     

    How will he stand up to CL competition, for that is the real measure we should be considering. ”

     

     

     

    At age 19, it is unlikely that he has been sufficiently tested yet- even though Ligue 2 teams are better than more than 50% of Scots teams. It is young for a defender to establish but, if we wait until we are surer he is the real deal, his price will have gone up beyond what we can afford and bigger spending clubs will be competing. We are forced by our market pressures to get in there early and, for every Van Dijk and Simunovic we get right, we will find a Blackett or a Rogne or Hooveild.

     

     

    We obviously want him to be capable of CL competition but he does not have to be CL battle ready just now. It is ok to buy for the future, especially with defenders who mature later than other positions. Intriguingly Transfermarket rates Duverne as a £1.75m prospect only. He is the joint 2nd highest rated player in the Lens Squad as measured by transfer potential.

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