Yesterday’s win at Fir Park was huge for Celtic’s season but we should caution against talk of a corner being turned. The team possessed the resilience (and Irish magician) to come from behind and beat the team who were second in the league, but we have been here before.
The Motherwell goal will cause Neil Lennon particular concern. After losing a goal to an early corner kick against Rennes on Thursday, it seems impossible to believe that the team switched off at another corner kick, but only Beram Kayal was alert to the threat of Motherwell taking a short corner, and he was already covering a threat.
Organisational discipline is as important as having better players to the outcome of many football games.
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Top of the morning to you all from a dreich Fife.
For those who believe that history repeats itself Sunday’s game and the atrocious refereeing display of Charlie Richmond has a long series of precedents.
Almost 40-years ago a referee who, like Richmond, had never refereed a Celtic game for years was brought out of mothballs to officiate in a crucial league-cup tie that Celtic badly needed to get out of the way with the congested fixture list they had.
Like Sunday’s corrupt debacle the referee had a shocker and it was so bad that fans were carried away by the police for attempting to get on the park to get the ref and the police even had to guard the main doors at Parkhead after the match to protect the ref.
Unlike Sunday’s game our manager did not take it on the chin and after 90 minutes with the scores level and extra time looming Big Jock strode on to have it out with the ref.
And again unlike Sunday’s game the press were not so deep in the pocket of their Ibrox paymasters that they kept schtoom.
You can read about it here:-
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/1972-11-01%3A+Celtic+3-2+Dundee%2C+League+Cup
South of Tunis
Friends are over from Italy for a few days he has This Place
South of Tunis
Why would they want to leave there?? lol por cierto
EXILED ——-
Mmm —very nice ..
Assisi / Gubbio and Orvieto are well worth visiting ——- more so in the winter —–the tourist hordes and the associated rabid commercialism are much less in evidence . Perugia has a real good annual jazz festival .
South Of Tunis says:
8 November, 2011 at 10:30
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2010 Never Again
Wasn’t there a buzz there was a few clubs supporting Sion behind the scenes re the court cases? I think Napoli comes to mind.
Sorry South of Tunis meant The Exiled Tim Doh! por cierto
South of Tunis
What months do you mean as winter? por cierto
Big Nan says:
8 November, 2011 at 10:36
Top of the morning to you all from a dreich Fife.
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Big Nan,
i wasn’t at that game I was down in Worthing and the steam choo choo took about three days to get to Glasgow in the winter, usually breaking down somewhere like Skipton where you could get tea in thin plastic cups from the platform. Anyway that has nothing to do with the real point of interest ( stop snoring at the back there)
Have a look at the first picture again?
Just learning his trade? Surely it can’t be?
Is that a young Dallas, or on closer examination of the stance, possibly Debbie? A remarkable resemblance and well taught by the master of masonic manipulation, Bobby Daidson.
My memory isn’t brilliant on this one but I am pretty sure of another great Jock tale in his battles with referees
Bobby Tate Junior a referee in name only, had single handedly tried to beat Celtic with an array of decisions that only an Edinburgh Jury or an OJ Simpson court could have concocted. After the farce drew to a close,, the young man who’s father had been a ref and had been the doyen of dastardly devious deeds against Celtic also, approached the waiting Celtic manager.
As he neared his nemesis, Jock seemed to calm his worries by simply saying ‘your father would have been proud of you’.
Tate thanked him and then glanced back at the big man, who was by now smiling, realising that perhaps it wasn’t a complement!
hail hail
Estadio
Last week whilst looking through some Celtic memorabilia pictures, I came across the ole Celtic scarf worn by the fans, myself, and my brother included in the 60’s and early 70’s.
Little did I know, a wee link to nostalgia put up on CQN would result in a parcel from the postman containing a gift all the way specially, from Donegal.
I wore it with pride, and I’ll wear again for every trip to Paradise, as this retro chic, is perfect for the Gazebo, and when you see the moniker thomthethim always read and respect, as he is graced, with the magic of Celtic.
Here’s the Sainted Celtic Shawl.
Hail Hail
Paul2Cans says:
8 November, 2011 at 08:31
Not dissimilar background and career path to Angiolini.
I’ll reserve judgement.
Richard Keys on talksport just described wee Dawwell as the Evening Times’ “Rankers correspondent”.Think Snyde will follow suit?
THE EXILED TIM says:
8 November, 2011 at 10:43
They can make any place look nice in photo’s(except ipox)
Estadio says:
8 November, 2011 at 10:59
Couldn’t be Dallas but could be a lookalike.
The fallacy that Big Jock just told the players to score more than the opposition and that took the corrupt or biased ref out of the equation should be exposed.
Big Jock was a Mason and knew the abuses that went on with that crowd which in Scotland is closely linked to the OO. So he knew the score and was passionate enough to make his point forcefuly. Something that gets forgotten in the mist of the myths.
2010 Never Again
Question – I noticed the straight red card issued by Collum to the Aberdeen player in the gam v the huns was downgraded to a yellow. This being the case it stands to reason Collum got it wrong (Yes I know……again)
It was also noticeable Collum only gave jelavic a yellow card for kicking out at an opponent in the same game.
The interesting thing is if he wouldn’t have given Jelavic a yellow….video evidence could have come in to play…but as he did nothing further could be done.
Jelavic then goes on to score 2 goals the following game when he shouldn’t even have been on the park.
Collum has a long history of coming down favourably when it comes to the huns. The evidence is all there and is abundant.
Willie Collum is corrupt and he is a cheat.
He needs to go!
Estadio says:
8 November, 2011 at 10:59
Estadio, my old man told me that story, but I think he said it was “Syme”, might be wrong and the old memory is playing tricks.
Dan
SoT
We are intending going over early next year, looking forward to going there very much, helps when it’s free :>)
por cierto
This place has it’s moments…….
Estadio says:
8 November, 2011 at 10:59
Got your man now. That is the face off the front of the Rowantrees Fruit Gums box!
Maybe Dallas’s old man?
Estadio..the same tate ?
http://celticparanoia.blogspot.com/2010/12/there-are-no-masonic-scottish-referees.html
imatim———
Yes ———- Italian media [ mainstream and football related ] have been interested in the Sion thing since its beginnings in 2008. The case was seen as being interesting and potentially very significant
Much rumored that small club /small town Sion , owned by an ex goalkeeper and architect, have been given support by some much richer and more influential people . The owner of Napoli is rumored to have a real loathing for Uefa..
Sion’s financial burden has been considerably reduced by a Swiss Court’s decision to make Uefa liable for Sion’s legal costs .
Uefa have managed to make a real mess of the Sion case . Their complacent , arrogant and possibly highly erroneous belief that they are above the law has landed them in deep doo-doo. .
We’ll see !
Another Stein classic quote was in regards to Richard Park.
Then a young reporter on Radio Clyde but also doing commentary on STV and Radio Clyde. Big Jock upon being asked to comment on Richard’s obvious bias commentary during a Rangers, Celtic game said he might as well go the whole hog and change his first name to Ibrox.
Dan
Bsr.
I have that very scarf but over time the tassels have turned pink for some reason.
I see while Grant Adam was misbehaving in Glasgow, Graham Stack was up to no good in London.
Was Sunday night a full moon?
Johann
Different Tate, cut from the same goatskin mind you. Dan may be right, my recall isn’t what it once was…..now what was i saying….., oh Aye Dan may be right it could’ve been that slime Syme and his father.
Big Nan,
Wasn’t that fissog also the face of Fry’s Five Boys? :-)
Syme
Dbbia
I met Smokin’ Joe in Dundee a few years ago and although he tried to put Ali’s “gamesmanship” down to promotional necessity, he was still very hurt by his antics.
Joe Frazier RIP
TAL
Por Cierto —–
Winter ——- ?
Late November to early March.
Bournesoup….,
I’m glad the parcel arrived safely and thank you for the kind words.
Now watch Celtic go!!
The Exiled Tim
If you go to Gubbio, I would recommend a wee trip on the ole cable car – High-tech it is not.
Yes that clean-cut well scrubbed boy scout look that you would never tire of ..but the serious point about Richmond as being the latest in a long line of cheats is that the players must be under fear for their safety when they know that the ref is letting all sorts of dangerous fouls go unpunished.
Especailly ball-players like Forrest who must be running at full tilt dreading the approaching defender’s tackle.
The fix is in. IMHO of course.
DBBIA
Are we on for a head to head, or chin to chin showdown on the 23rd pre Dunfermline match?
I reckon all CQNers attending the pub can pay a few quid to cast their vote and chance to win a prize if they vote for the winner. I’ll round up the other guys who said they’d take part.
Mine is getting a trim tomorrow.
oh ——- Richard Park .
I know someone who lived in the same leafy suburban Bearsden street as Doctor Dick — allegedly the good Doctor saw nothing wrong with leaving his dog’s excrement lying on the pavement .
Interestingly —– someone else I know used to share a Glasgow west end back court with Jim White. Jim White allegedly saw nothing wrong with his dog using that back court as a toilet. [ no poop and scoop for Jim ] My informant also claimed that cleaning the stairs was something that Jim simply never had the time/inclination to do.
Mmm
bournesouprecipe :
As a result of the exchanges associated with scarfs,rugs etc,I too wore the scarf to the Renne game,I have to say we have not looked back since.
Perhaps time for a Time Warp section in the Main Stand.
JC
There will no chance of getting me up on one of them things, this Tim suffers from vertigo, big time.
After coming home late last night I had a look at some of the threads posted by the night shift (Margaret McGill et al). There was a discussion about Celtic players and Scotland caps and in particular comparing Danny McGrain with Sandy Jardine. Both players were essentially right backs but both were found places in the Scotland team of that era by the simple expedient of playing Daniel Fergus at left back instead of his natural position and excluding the Leeds Utd left back Frank (Francis) Gray from the line up altogether.
In a similar vein Kenny Dalglish had collected 49 consecutive caps for Scotland and would have collected his 50th in a friendly (can’t remember which team and I’m loathed to consult Google) He was mysteriously dropped for that game by the then manager Willie Ormond. No-one reallly knows why but in collecting his 50 th consecutive cap he would have equalled George Young’s record. Young of course played for the foe malign.
The worst example of bias though has to be the paltry amount of caps awarded to Jimmy McGrory, which again from memory was either 8 or 12 and was commented on by Bob Crampsey in one of his books.
HH
excath
“Perhaps time for a Time Warp section in the Main Stand.”
I now have an unsettling image of Ian Bankier as Dr Frank N. Furter.
bournesouprecipe says:
8 November, 2011 at 11:03
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The Honest Mistake (Sickened) says:
8 November, 2011 at 11:16
I got that scarf from my dad for the `65 Cup Final, I have worn it for every game since then until now, still in great condition, my son says he wants it to go to games with once I am gone. Love it to bits.
Paul67 et al
Sad loss, Joe Frazier! One of the greatest fighters in boxing history. God bless Smokin Joe!
Big Nan says:
8 November, 2011 at 11:32
Yes that clean-cut well scrubbed boy scout look that you would never tire of ..but the serious point about Richmond as being the latest in a long line of cheats is that the players must be under fear for their safety when they know that the ref is letting all sorts of dangerous fouls go unpunished.
Especailly ball-players like Forrest who must be running at full tilt dreading the approaching defender’s tackle.
The fix is in. IMHO of course.
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2010 Never Again
How true. There are Celtic players looking over their shoulders waiting for the tackle that will end their careers.
When Bougherra got away with that cowardly tackle from behind on Gary Hooper’s Achilles it was open season from there on in.
And there are some people who can’t see the damage this is doing to us.
As long as the MIB are allowed to keep doing what they do best, there will never be a level playing field.
They are our biggest problem….and they are the ones who we need to seriously focus on imo because the evidence is there.
hahaha
daryll hunbag on talksport
“speaking to rangers, rangers believe they can win this case”
ties himself in a knot…
“they think they can cut a deal.”
im afraid this is not winning a case.
they will be hung drawn and quartered.
Keys –
“daryll king, the rangers correspondant for the evening times”
gray –
“shhhh u cant say that..”