Old Lumley-troubled used a classic rhetorical technique yesterday. Give your target audience lots of points to consider which you know they will agree with; build empathy, get heads nodding, fists banging on tables, then slip in the line you are trying to sell. As a piece of prose, you have to respect the statement. This guy, or his writer, has not only read the Greeks, he’s understood their importance.
If Sir David is right, Rangers issued no side contracts, all non-discretionary payments to players in connection to football were registered, if the redacted contract which appeared in The Sun in March was a piece of fiction, if the prima facie evidence presented by Duff and Phelps was an error, he and his soon to be liquidated former club have nothing to worry about.
Cicero CSC.
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up_over_goal on 7 August, 2012 at 15:55 said:
Ledley at left back !
Samaras !
McCourt !
Doesn’t do it for me. Start with that 11 and I would wager we see an all too familiar “rethink of tactics” midway through the game
Bom dia,
Not ready any of today’s comments and no Celtic related news from Brasil today either (again).
In fact, only thing I can say from here (apart from that it’s rainin – again) is that the papers are saying that São Paulo’s, Lucas Moura will NOT be going to ManUre.
Apparently, PSG have tabled a better offer than ManUre’s +34m GBP for the player which would see him stay at São Paulo until the end of the season (December) here.
Based on this 34m valuation, I’d be interested to hear how we’d value Ki. Watch them both today in the Olympic SF game and see what you think.
Ki took a good pen to knock out the plucky Brits.
His hair is also headin’ into Bangura territory; I’d be loathe to see him go, even for £20M.
CELTIC just require a draw against HJK Helsinki to secure their passage to the final UEFA Champions League qualifying round but Neil Lennon insists his team only have victory in their sights.
The Hoops currently hold a one-goal advantage in the tie thanks to last week´s 2-1 win in Glasgow.
But the manager refuted the notion that the Scottish champions would adopt a defensive approach and attempt to defend that lead in the Finnish capital tomorrow (Wednesday).
“We will be trying to go and win the game,” he said. “We feel we created plenty of chances in the first game although it´s a totally different environment.
“We will have a look at the pitch tonight and have a good think about the team selection for tomorrow, but we will go into it with a positive frame of mind.
“It´s still very early in our season but I was really pleased with the performance on Wednesday and while there was a bit of tiredness for the Aberdeen game on Saturday, I was very pleased with the result.
“It´s very difficult to set a team out to play for a draw. I´m not too many players who have that mindset. It´s not an SPL game so we have to approach it differently but we are not coming here to sit back and defend all night because that can bring enough problems.
“We will try to score a goal or maybe two in the game if we can, but a clean sheet will get us through and we will focus on that as well.
“Last season we came away with a couple of positive results in Rennes and Udinese and if we can gather that sort of performance again we won´t be far away.”
Plenty of column inches have been devoted to the potential impact of playing on the artificial surface in Helsinki´s Sonera Stadium.
While that has been factored into the players´ preparation for the match, the manager is confident his side are capable of posing a threat regardless of what pitch they are playing on.
“The majority of the players who played on Saturday had a recovery day on Monday, so the rest of the squad trained on the artificial pitch at Lennoxtown, just to get a feel for it, but we will know more about the pitch tonight,” he explained.
“I think it´s an advantage for any team who are used to playing on it. We very rarely use an artificial surface, if at all, so it will definitely give them some sort of advantage but we can´t use that as an excuse.
“We feel we have a very good, vibrant young team. We feel this is an important step in the right direction if we can come through this tie and take this team forward.
“However we are not underestimating Helsinki at all and we will give them as much respect as we can and try and win the tie over the two games. I saw enough in the first tie to know they will pose us problems but I think we can pose them plenty of problems as well.”
While Celtic deserved their win in the first-leg, the Finnish outfit´s performance showed they will be dangerous opponents on home soil. Factor in their match-sharpness and then the difficulty of this fixture becomes apparent.
But given how much is riding on the outcome of the match, the Hoops are determined to prevail and prolong their European adventure.
“Helsinki are a very good side,” said the manager. “We have had them watched three or four times. They move the ball around very well and they have some good-quality players who can hurt you, particularly in the wide areas.
“We will try and prepare the players as best we can. It´s an important game very early but we knew the reality of that coming into the season. The players have worked very hard and they are very focused on this, so hopefully we can get a very good performance out of them tomorrow.
“It´s very important for me the club and the players, particularly this group of young players,” he added.
“I want them to sample European football. I want us to get over the early hurdle of the qualifying rounds if we can. We haven’t done that for the two years I´ve been in charge and it would be a nice psychological step to get over.”
Georgios Samaras will return to the reckoning after being forced from the fray against Aberdeen following a heavy blow to the face. And the manager is hopeful over the availability of injured duo Scott Brown and James Forrest.
“Georgios will be fine but we will need to find out how Scott and James are this evening. They are still a little bit stiff and sore,” he said.
“We will give them as much time as we possibly can and maybe even tomorrow afternoon but there has been a significant improvement in them over the last couple of days.
“Scott likes to play even when he´s not 100 per cent. He´s such an important player to us, but as it´s such an important game we can´t take too many chances, and because it´s so early in the season we don´t want to lose him for a extended period of time if we push him too hard too early.”
oldtim67 ,
since you’ve finally re-appeared after the weekend , drop me a line to sannabhoy@gmail.com
HH
James F…,
throughout all the financial doping, one thing made the difference between the teams, refereeing, and that has only changed for the worse, I am waiting for an investigation and it appears the only people mooting the idea, is again internet bampots, the momentum for this appears to be fading.
Jobs not done by a long chalk.
up_over_goal
been off work for past 4 weeks on holidays so postings very limited. Now that I’m back in the office, I should be on a bit more often.
Mort
Some info required.
Is Premier Sports the only tv station showing the game?
I phoned them, but they want 2 months subscription.
Is there another way to pay for the game without stumping up 2 months worth of money?
SPF
Lambo bins Hutton :) :) :)
We have won nothing.
The war is only behining.
The same powers still run the game in scotland, the same powers are breaking all the rules to assist the huns.
The same powers still control the match fixers [ the referees ]
They are still to be punished for anything.
If that is winning the war, sure as hell wouldn’t like to have lost it.
WGS
Wonder if he’ll get a game at Sevco?
No more sleeps till Helsinki, Need to leave about 0220 so there’s no point in going to bed tonight , will be a long day but hopefully a fruitful one.
C_C
anyroadup,
think I’ll go watch the U20’s
hail hail
Had a look on vipboxtv and they are advertising The Ragers v East Fife tonight, audio only.
bet365
Sorry about that, posted in the wrong place
canamalar
Aye and not just in our games.
Sevco v Brechin:
Two dives to win a penalty – No bookings
Every decision went their way, Brechin got nothing.
And to top it off, a blatant foul in the box by elbows before heading in the winner.
Aye,…Start as you mean to go on….
Just had this email from the SFL
Dear Greenjedi
The Scottish Football League has accepted Rangers as an Associate Member. The Scottish Football Association membership of Rangers FC was transferred from Rangers Football Club PLC (in Administration) (“Oldco”) to Sevco Scotland Limited (now called The Rangers Football Club Limited) (“Newco”) in terms of Article 14 of the Scottish FA’s Articles of Association and, therefore, it is entirely appropriate for the Scottish Football League to represent Rangers in this manner.
Regards,
I’m drafting a response just now
Bloke109@15:41
DO you think, like me, that it’s all about season tickets, gambling on that immediate income, rather than a hint towards reconstruction next season?’
Correct. He needs cash.Lots of it.And quickly
Did anyone see Green’s interview with SSN a short while ago outside the ground? He was waxing lyrical about the SevCo support, how great they are blah, blah, blah. Reporter asked him if he was hoping for a sell out tonight. He ummed and aaahd before commenting that “Celtic got only 17,000 for their game against Inter last week, so if we get more tonight i’ll be delighted”
What a muppet. Why mention us? Appealing to a new brand of Orc?
There was a queue of people behind him picking up tickets for tonight’s game but not once did he say how many season books they had sold.
I’ll say it again. With the wage bill they have now, they will have to sell out every single home game in every competition, to have even a sliver of hope of covering their outlay
They have lost their entire team. For free.
They are a Third Division club.
They are not going to be in Europe for at least four years.
The SPL and SFA wanted them in the top league. Then they wanted in the Division 1. They were thwarted by the fans and their own members. The most vicious media fear and smear campaign these islands have seen since Blair was moving us towards Iraq and leaking crap like the 45 minute claim did not make a dent in public opinion or move a single club in the wanted direction.
The “power of the SFA” is a busted flush. Their credibility and influence on events in this case was zero, and they will have no more control over where Der Hun ends up after restructuring. The clubs, again, will speak, and again they will do so in the voices of the fans.
NewCo will lose trophies. It will suffer further sanctions. They will be banned from signing players for a year. Their finances are in ruins. Their reputation is in shreds, Their global fanbase has been exposed as a myth and the notion of billionaires with blood blood in their veins is now a discredited fantasy.
Believe me when I say it … the war is over. We won.
All that’s left is mopping up the survivors.
James Forrest – I tend to agree with the sentiments of Exiled Tim.
I have been greatly heartened by the reaction of football fans the length and breadth of the country over the past few months. Indeed, it has prompted me to reappraise my previuosly held belief that I lived in a bigotted hun nation where most had a soft spot for the football club known formerly as Rangers. For me this assertion is no linger true, if ever it was.
If it never was, you have to ask yourselh how the football club formerly known as Rangers came to hold such a stranglehold over the Scottish game?
For me it comes down to a seedy network of influence that relied on:
1. Corrupt administration.
2. Favourable officiating to say the least
3. A co-opted, biased media, particularly the DR and Herald.
No fair minded football fan can rest easy until this network of influence has been swept away and unfortuately we haven’t even started cleansing a system that allowed the poison of Rangers to infect the whole of the Scottinsh game.
All of us must continue shining a light on the corruption in our game until the SFA/SPL etc. have been completely reformed; the referees are made more accountable and the DR & Herald are out of business.
Ten Men Won The League on 7 August, 2012 at 16:50 said:
No. He is playing to the old orcs.
Question is. Who is putting him up to it?
Very very positive James, sincerely hope you are calling this one correctly and I think you are.
No me mammy. It was all those creditors who forced unseviceable debts on us.
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon!
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I agree James. I posted last week that we should perhaps just ignore the on field fortunes of SevcoFC. They are not relevant.
It’s easy to be drawn in to watching their outings against the giants of East Fife, Annan and Cowdenbeath but we are only giving the new club oxygen.
If we don’t believe it is rangers then why the hell should we be interested? Of course if it starts acting like rangers then off the field they will have to take the fiscal consequences and that is something we should keep an eye on.
But football wise? I think we should just starve them and the TV stations they (dis)grace of the interest they crave.
The entire newspaper industry here doesn’t need to fold to satisfy me, but, they need to clean out their current hacks who have been so impotent in this long sordid affair. There is not a scottish football journalist with a shred of credibility remaining with the exception of Tom English, Ewing Grahame and Jim Spence. The rest shame their employers and reflect on their employers
kdc on 7 August, 2012 at 17:10 said:
The entire newspaper industry here doesn’t need to fold to satisfy me, but, they need to clean out their current hacks who have been so impotent in this long sordid affair. There is not a scottish football journalist with a shred of credibility remaining with the exception of Tom English, Ewing Grahame and Jim Spence. The rest shame their employers and reflect on their employers
You seem to suggest that someone like Rupert can be shamed.
Japan 1 Mexico 0 – cracking goal
When can we expect the outcome of the SFA investigation into sectarian singing earlier this year. Have the SFL instigated an investigation into the singing at Brechin.
Surely scottish football authorities, the government, the police, the PF and society must have learned from the behaviour of RFC(IA)’s support that if they don’t nip the behaviour of this new Sevco’s supporters in the bud now they’ll have a problem on their hands down the line….
quonno on 7 August, 2012 at 17:12 said:
hmmm, problem with my logic there
Mort
Glad to hear it.
Stattosunitecsc
quonno@17:07
I can think of one or two individuals who will have advised him to play to the galleries if he wants to sell season books
And yet it still isn’t working. They refuse to divulge how many books they have sold. You can bet your bottom dollar if they had sold a huge number they would not be slow telling their media pals the figure
RobertTressell – I’m still enjoying the antics of Sevco, it’s like the underrated comedy The Increasingly Poor Decisions of Todd Margaret.
However, at some point the novelty appeal of this new club will likely wear thin and they will probably be cancelled. (thumbsup)
Another sitty-down gold medal for Team GB.
Is it just me or does anyone else think “splofficial” doesn’t sound right?
Bloke109 – So far it’s still Ireland: nil points though. (thumbsup)
Bloke109
Lol
It’s not yet been announced but Voguepunter won Gold in the armchair event just to support your theory :-)
hamiltontim – Who’s winning in the gazebo stakes? (thumbsup)