I remember writing with anticipation 10 years ago as many of Martin O’Neill’s benchwarmers came to the end of their contracts. Martin was not a squad rotator, so those not entrusted with his confidence found themselves on the bench or in the stand on match day, there was little scope to play your way back into the squad, and the wages spent unproductively inhibited our chances of bringing in fresh talent.
Ronny Deila spoke to the media on Friday about the same issue, moving on those who are already well out of the picture, as well as some who played their part last season but who are unlikely to see much in the way of game time in the season ahead.
There’s going to be a bit of churn in the squad, we’re still likely to add three or four players, but it’s been 20 years since a Celtic manager’s talked about creating space in the squad for youth players to fill. This isn’t a criticism of the managers we’ve had since then, more a reflection of the pressure they worked under.
Tommy Burns had to drive us from mid-table mediocrity to genuine contenders. Wim, Dr Jo and John Barnes weren’t here long enough to concern themselves about development, which Martin made it clear from day one that his interest extended only as far as the first team squad.
I doubt any Celtic manager worked under the intensity Gordon Strachan experienced during his four years. Every point dropped delivered a greater trauma than at any time I can remember. Neil Lennon managed through the transition, from competing head-to-head with three-in-a-row winners Rangers, to getting used to life as the last surviving superpower.
This is Ronny’s luxury. It doesn’t matter if we win the league by a record tally, or match the defensive records created in each of the last two seasons. Better to lose more games while giving a chance to young talent, than ask hoary pros to grind through the same gears one more time.
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Donegal line, here to remind you when your being stupid.
Hail Hail.
Vespa
Keep up the god work
You have your hands fill pointing out all the stupidity on here
WITS – Splitting hairs – any team apart from Dublin will do rightly.
This mental sense of entitlement always leads to your downfall.
Anyway, time for peace, time to go.
Petec – the greatest MC in history:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x5t8l7u5Hps
God bless the Celtic and God bless the United States of America.
Slan.
HH.
Vespa
Keep up the good work
You have your hands full pointing out all the stupidity on here
16 Roads
As I said
Bring it on
It means nothing to us anyway as we have so much else going on but we like teasing you provincial backwater types
Sorry Macjay,
Do your really think that the Occupation of the north of our country is without British Army terrorism?
Why don’t you just pack up and go.
If you have served in the 6 Counties you know.
What is the Stars
01:39 on
29 June, 2015
Macjay
You arent completely correct with your version of history
Northern Ireland was teetering on the brink of civil war,the Westminister administration what had shamefully ignored the festering sectarian cesspit until it exploded belatedly intervened to try and contain the situation by putting troops on the streets
In Derry with its nationalist majority the troops were probably more welcomed by the RUC which was taking a hammering,however in Belfast where catholic/nationalist families were under constant attack from loyalist mobs led by the POLICE,its true that the British Army was initially welcomed as a respite
It didnt take long for the army to align themselves with the loyalists and sadly we had 30 years of mayhem
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O.K.
I would never claim to be an expert on these matters,nor to be able to view them as an Irishman.
No argument about the shameful situation at that time, in particular gerrymandering in Derry.
I remember John Vorster of South Africa ,when he was accused over S.A. laws in relation to civil disobedience, specifically referred to punitive law in N.I.as a means of defending S.A. law.(Detention without trial?)
If tarrant, who I had a go @ way bach, then I apologised, eventually.. Fixed it all with that Sincere Apology.
I go off on a tangent… Anyway, Sorry tarrant here is another link from the really bad Library that I have Stored in ma Pea Brain.
Complicated
Macjay
April 1963, the South African Minister of Justice, strident apartheid enforcer and supporter of Nazi Germany B. J. Vorster commented that he would be “willing to exchange all the [South African justice] legislation… for one clause of the Northern Ireland Special Powers Act.
Clogher Celt
I doubt very much that Macjay was ever a member of the B A or served in Northern Ireland
clogher celt
01:50 on
29 June, 2015
I know that there has been collusion between the British army and terrorists (U.D.A. ,U.V.F.?) in Ireland.That`s all I know.
My question to you?
Hail Hail
Don’t you Ever forget, Ever.
Remember ye ur a Womble
Macjay
There was also collusion between the British and the IRA
Via their double agents many of who were involved at a very high level of IRA activity
Freddie Scappaticci supposedly head of IRA anti informer squad was himself an infomer/british agent,….this creep killed many a young man or woman whom he decided was an informer ,,, a dirty dirty business
Squad rotation was a term first used by Chelski to enable all their top class (there were a lot of them) players get a game
The term “piss poor squad rotation ” was then usually used by other teams , one of them Celtic to try and kid the fans on that we signed top players
Before VVD and jason we had the Center half rotation because none were good enough to hold down a place
Then of course the striker rotation, Nuff said in that matter
What Mon did not do was ” piss poor squad rotation ” he was the only Celtic manager in recent times that I know ,who identified a position and put in a player ( not numerous ) into that position. He had a very small squad and did not believe in quantity over quality. He thus did not rotate as he knew his best 11 players were on the park and they stayed on park the following week
The term project was used when describing an upgrade to the carpark or one of the stands
I heard recently that an idea with Celtic tv to make a DVD on the Oneil years was squashed by PL, PL wants the fans to forget glory times under oneil as PL bonus would not exist . Always wonder why Paul67 rubbishes Mon at every opportunity
But squad Rotation !! Joke
Good for Ronny to get rid of these projects and reduce size of squad. No need to rotate if you have your best 11 on park
What is the Stars
01:55 on
29 June, 2015
Macjay
Cheers.
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You`re right.I have never served with any army at any time.
What is the Stars
02:07 on
29 June, 2015
Sorry,got to run.
What is the Stars,
Undoubtedly, there are those that say the UK is diminishing in this World. The Home of Freemasonry is this dirty dirty town.
Control every aspect.
I’m with 16 Roads.. God Bless America, it is a shame the Money Monsters have wrecked it. F the Fed.
WITS,
I don’t like sectarianism of any kind, nor do I like the use of the word terrorist.
I note that Macjay cannot counter any question about the British Army in Ireland.
Long and the short is I hope that he doesn’t use the Terrorism word again. Especially not in an Irish context.
If he e mails me at dublin2016@mail.com, I will pass on plenty of evidence, of British brutality.
Clogher
Sorry WITS,
I would have posted you, but I know you are probably watching Sky Sports.
HH
Clogher
Just been reading back the last 2 pages.
I’m an ex soldier who was in the British army
I joined when I was 16 and it gave me a way out after a difficult childhood and a desire to get far away from my circumstances. Do a runner if you will.
There were other ways out mainly through education but I had too big a chip on my shoulder and a need to prove myself a man after years of sexual abuse.
When I enlisted I had to make an oath to the queen. I did it unstinting without thought, the thought of my first wage packet, burning a hole in my pocket.
I wouldn’t make that oath today
Because I’m a very patriotic scot
And a traveller
And nobody is better than me
Only equal
It was a way out but I never bought into the jingoistic fervour attached
Although there was nobody prouder than me when I passed out. I was somebody
Throughout my service I wore my Celtic tap and I never had a negative experience. I also wore a Scotland tap occasionally and I had a few negative experiences, mostly banter, but a few that turned nasty.
I never served in Ireland but my wee sister did a 6 month stint. As a chef. A bigger Tim you cannot meet. She married a fellow chef,a guy from Salford. He was a big Man U fan. But he was in Seville. She converted him. They were in the thameside emerald and got the bus up to every home game.
Another sister worked for the Naffii and married a soldier from Preston
She converted him as well
Now I’ve been to Celtic games with both these ghuys when they wer the loudest singers of the iIRA add ons. Also nobody has sung “go on home British soldiers” louder than us.
Most Celtic supporters I know ken I was a soldier and it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference.
With hindsight and political awareness I wish I had gone to university
I’m not going to apologise for my choices
CELTIC
OPEN TO ALL
SINCE THE BEGINNING
That is right and why I’m proud to be a Celtic supporter
Hail Hail
Squire Danaher,
Re your post at 1.40 am. Organised Republicanism…Nobody here talks about that in a Celtic context.
I am sure that Celtic are delighted with the money from the Irish support.
WITS:
It wouldn’t be possible that Freddie Scappaticci wasn’t an informer at all and that it was the intent of an interfering and Machiavellian intelligence agency based overseas from Belfast to paint Scappaticci an informer in the hope that his own side would take him out?
What good does it do an intelligence service, short term or long term, in the recruitment department especially, to belatedly blow the cover of their informers?
Stakeknife might be a mountain of salt.
Travellerbhoy
04:19 on
29 June, 2015
Travellerbhoy
04:19 on
29 June, 2015
Very interesting.
Billy Connolly used to mock the the advertisements which encouraged people to enlist by showing sparkling blue ocean and palm trees.They often ended up in N.I.
In fact,Billy was in the paras,but not for long.
Billy Connolly. Whose family originated from Ballyconneely (sp?) near Clifden,Connemara.
MacJ,
Just read back. You are very welcome in Dublin next year.
Clogher
Thank you.
Travellerbhoy
My father has a similar story to yourself with regards to joining the army etc.
I have heard the singing of the songs personally at home, at games with the IRA add ons, as did his family.
Dont you see a problem with that?
singing that sort of crap without a shadow of irony?
Fighting for the British Army in NI against the IRA, but singing F the queen, up the IRA?
Good morning my friends from a damp, drizzly, drab looking East Kilbride. Moderately mild.
Can somebody please remind me of Paul’s email address
Ta
SH
Stairheedrammy –
It’s paul@celticquicknews.co.uk
Kitalba
What good does it do an intelligence service, short term or long term, in the recruitment department especially, to belatedly blow the cover of their informers?
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It’s very useful to do that as it spreads discord and suspicions about who else may be an agent. It’s common practice by the intelligence agencies against ” terror groups” like CND Greenpeace etc.
I was reading some comments earlier about homegrown players and everybody seems to forget about wee Shaun.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon
01:23 on
29 June, 2015
ThompsonTwin
00:51 on
29 June, 2015
Mate,what binds us is our love of Celtic F.C.
I can`t see how association with the I.R.A. is in any way a positive one.
Quite the reverse.
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Totally agree with you – however their are those among us who would eagerly walk away from Celtic if the club denounced/banned all association and glorification of the IRA and Irish Republicanism.
The whole wearisome allegiance is now an anachorism and has no place in a modern Celtic Football Club.
Keep your old-fashioned beliefs if you must, but, keep them out of Celtic Park !!!!
what is the stars
01:50 on 29 June, 2015
16 Roads
As I said
Bring it on
It means nothing to us anyway as we have so much else going on but we like teasing you provincial backwater types
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Aye right enough.
Tell that to me when yiz are standing on Hill16, gurning yer eyes out after another glorious defeat.
31 counties against 1 – you work the odds out.
Yo-ho-yo.
God damn Dub zombies.
WongasCSC.
HH.
Sabbatical time. Too many WUMS and zombies.
God bless Kojo, the king, the heartbeat of CQN.
Marvellous.
Slainte.
Laters.
HH and God bless the Pope.
:D
Michael Meenan / Kevin Barry
No difference , two young patriots who gave their all.
IRA was made up of young not well trained volunteers..mistakes happened and any republican will testify to that.
Sometimes we stooped to the level of the British army and loyalists which in hindsight was wrong but as I said it was ordinary men and women involved in extroidinary circumstances so things were bound to go wrong.
Kingsmill , Birmingham pub Bomb and few others.
But let’s not forget the we’ll trained well paid leaders of the British army and their we’ll trained soldiers had no problems shooting dead unarmed men women and children so in a war situation the republican army had to at times show we could be as ruthless as them.
What was the alternative for Catholics in the north.. Treated as 2nd class citizens in their own country and battered and shot when they dared to speak out or protest.. The actions of the British and unionists led to armed resistance .
If our basic civil rights had of been given slot earlier their would never have been a 30plus years of conflict.
The republican movement played a massive part in the people getting their equality and I thank them for that .
Everyone who played a part no matter how small.
Sadly not enough people in Ireland at the minute have the desire for freedom.. When they do as sands said ..we will see the rising of the moon.
Of course I realise it’s a bit rich comin’ frum me………..but,
…….when’s the fitba start?
DearieDearieMe CSC
Banjo enjoy
15th July is our 1st competitive game I think . CL qualifier at paradise