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  1. I’m not asking you to unequivocally accept what I say. I’m putting forward a point of view. On here earlier said that over the course of a season much harder for MIBs to deny Celtic a title. In Europe never seen a decision as bad as SC semi last year, never had to contend with a Dougie, Dougie but then I’m of the opinion that if something has a wet nose, big ears and barks more often than not its a dog.

     

    I have already said that I feel Celtic get the shitty end of the stick when it comes to reffing decisions I didn’t say that it’s the only reason why we get beat. No Europe when Celtic get beaten how often is the discussion afterwards centred on the ref???? and therein lies a tale.

  2. Tricoloured Ribbon on

    Mick at 2.02,

     

    I will give you definitive proof.Jim Callaghan was turfed out of Scottish football for not sending John Hughes off against the Huns.There you go.

  3. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Terry Wogan.

     

     

    What a loss.

     

     

    A stalwart of the Corporation, he was among its fiercest critics, always speaking up on behalf of the licence payer. “The great maxim at the BBC is, if it ain’t broke, break it,” was one blissful jibe delivered with that lethal Limerick charm.( The Telegraph )

     

     

    R.I.P.Terry.

  4. Last point on it

     

    But in Europe I’m unaware of an after dinner circuit were ex refs get a gig because their claim to fame is that they gave decisions against us. Also have never heard of a ref requesting and getting an opportunity to ref his favourite team for his last game a la Bobby Tait or refs still being allowed to officiate at teams were they previously held a season ticket.

  5. DiCanioWasADream on

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    1919: The 40-hours strike

     

    Tanks and soldiers in Glasgow, Feb 1919

     

    The 40 Hours strike led by the Clyde Workers’ Committee was the most radical strike seen on Clydeside in terms of both its tactics and its demands.

     

     

    The objectives of the strike were overtly political; they were to secure a reduction of weekly working hours to 40 in order that discharged soldiers could find employment, and to stop the re-emergence of an unemployed reserve, thereby maintaining the strength of labour against capital.

     

     

    See also a history of Red Clydeside, 1915-1920

     

     

    The leaders of the Clyde Workers’ Committee (CWC) had rejected a nationally negotiated 47-hour week agreement that had been reached between the engineering employers and officials from the engineering and shipbuilding trade unions. The CWC had also gained widespread support amongst workers and other important trade union bodies within the Clydeside area for their demands for a 40-hour working week.

     

     

    Initially Clydeside employers were unconcerned about the strike, the feeling being that the strike was the result of an internecine dispute between official and unofficial trade union leaders and that this was little to do with them. Both the government and trade union officials were also initially unconcerned, feeling that without official support the strike would quickly peter out.

     

     

    These positions were to change dramatically four days into the strike. By 30 January 1919, 40,000 workers in the engineering and shipbuilding industries in Clydeside were out on strike. In addition electricity supply workers in Glasgow had also gone on strike in sympathy, as had 36,000 miners in the Lanarkshire and Stirlingshire coalfields. It was reported that during the first week of the strike not a single trade in the Clydeside area was left unaffected by strike action. The rapid spread of the strike was attributed to the large-scale deployment of flying pickets by the CWC, largely made up of discharged servicemen.

     

     

    On 29 January 1919, after a rally of strikers in Glasgow and a march to George Square, a deputation from the CWC managed to secure a meeting with the Lord Provost of Glasgow. At this meeting the strike leaders requested that the Lord Provost ask the Council to compel employers to grant workers a 40-hour week. The Lord Provost was unable or unwilling to give the deputation a reply to their question without consulting colleagues, and asked them to return on 31 January when he assured them he would be able give them a reply.

     

     

    The battle of George Square (Bloody Friday) 1919

     

    On Friday 31 January 1919 upwards of 60,000 demonstrators gathered in George Square in support of the 40-hours strike and to hear the Lord Provost’s reply to the workers’ request for a 40-hour week. Whilst the deputation was in the building the police mounted a vicious and unprovoked attack on the demonstrators, felling unarmed men and women with their batons. The demonstrators, with the ex-servicemen to the fore, quickly retaliated with fists, iron railings and broken bottles, and forced the police into a retreat.

     

     

    On hearing the noise from the square the strike leaders, who were meeting with the Lord Provost, rushed outside to restore order. One of the leaders, David Kirkwood, was felled to the ground by a police baton, and along with William Gallacher was arrested by the police.

     

     

    After the initial confrontation between the demonstrators and the police in George Square, further fighting continued in and around the city centre streets for many hours afterwards. The Townhead area of the city and Glasgow Green, where many of the demonstrators had regrouped after the initial police charge, were the scenes of running battles between police and demonstrators.

     

     

    In the immediate aftermath of ‘Bloody Friday’, as it became known, other leaders of the Clyde Workers’ Committee were also arrested, including Emanuel Shinwell, Harry Hopkins and George Edbury.

     

     

    Government concerns about industrial militancy and revolutionary political activity in Glasgow reached new heights after the events of 31 January 1919. Fears within government of a workers’ revolution in Glasgow led to the deployment of troops and tanks in the city.

     

     

    An estimated 10,000 English troops in total were sent to Glasgow in the immediate aftermath of the Battle of George Square. This was in spite of a full battalion of Scottish soldiers being stationed at Maryhill barracks in Glasgow at the time. No Scottish troops were deployed, with the government fearing that fellow Scots, soldiers or otherwise, would go over to the workers side if a revolutionary situation developed in Glasgow.

     

     

    On 10 February 1919 the 40-hours strike was called off by the Joint Strike Committee. Whilst not achieving their stated aim of a 40-hour working week, the striking workers from the engineering and shipbuilding industries did return to work having at least negotiated an agreement that guaranteed them a 47-hour working week; 10 hours less than they were working prior to the strike.

     

     

    Born67

  6. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Pre-Jobo weather warning-I hope you’ve all battened down the hatches for the next 36 hours or so. Looks like it’s gonna get nasty.

  7. antipodean red on

    DHARMA BAM,

     

     

    I’m nominally a lurker, pop in now and again for a bit of biffo with Macjay. I never saw the game last night, too late and on 12 hour shifts but i watched the highlights/lowlights this morning. Really poor defending from what I could see, predictable refereeing so no surprises there. The killer for me is the team doesn’t appear to have any heart when we need it most. This team loses too often when it matters, repeatedly in Europe against average, not poor, opposition and too often in Scotland in cup ties against teams like RC and ICT. Dingwall has a population of 5,500 people and we struggle against their little team more often than we should. I don’t like to talk down Celtic or managers and players but I think we need a change in management. This current group will not get us past CL qualifiers and if truth be told, may struggle in EL qualifiers. In the past two years in CL qualifiers, we have beaten two part-time Icelandic teams and a Qarabag side who I don’t think had a shot on target over the two legs played. Quite simply, not good enough.

  8. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    antipodean red on 1st February 2016 6:39 am

     

     

    Good.

     

    You have seen the light.

     

    Biffo postponed.

     

    You live to fight another day.

     

     

    :-):-)

  9. antipodean red on

    Macjay,

     

     

    I’ve thought it for some time, the last game I was at was Legia Warsaw at Murrayfield, I left that one totally stunned, now I’m just punch drunk with how poor the team set-up is in almost any meaningful game. Something has to give, sooner rather than later.

  10. Morning all from a really depressed looking (and feeling) dark, wet and very wild East Kilbride.

  11. My friends in Celtic,

     

     

    One thing is sure if the fans in the pub are any gauge. Ronny has lost the confidence of many if not most Celtic supporters.

     

     

    HH.

     

     

    Ps: SFTB. I have no issue that a tweet can be regarded as a bit of a joke. Providing the same common sense can be equally applied to all.

  12. GG

     

     

    Apologies I’d posted from my bed and had fallen asleep.

     

     

    I’m not sure how you interpreted my post as alluding to ‘super Celtic supporters’ to be honest.

     

     

    You spoke about CQNers having white hoods, which I thought was way over the top. All I was saying is that those critical of yesterday should be free to speak their mind.

     

     

    Hail Hail to ye.

  13. From the official site –

     

     

    The public sale of East Kilbride Football Club’s allocation of match tickets for the forthcoming William Hill Scottish Cup 5th Round tie against Celtic will take place between 10:00hrs & 16:00hrs on Monday 1st February and will be held at:

     

     

    K-Park Training Academy

     

     

    Calderglen Country Park

     

     

    East Kilbride

     

     

    G75 0QZ

     

     

    Tickets are priced at £20 for adults and £8 for Under-16’s. Purchases will be limited to 6 tickets per person, and sold on a first come-first served basis. There are no other concessions available on this occasion and tickets cannot be reserved or booked in advance.

     

     

    Current East Kilbride FC season ticket holder can attend K-Park between 17:00hrs and 19:00hrs this evening to purchase their tickets along with voucher holders from yesterday’s match against Spartans.

     

     

    We can also confirm that anyone under the age of 16 purchasing a concession ticket must be accompanied by a paying adult.

     

     

    Please note that tickets will be sold on a cash only basis, and cannot be purchased via card payment, by phone or online.

     

     

    Tickets purchased at K-Park are strictly for the East Kilbride designated areas of the Excelsior Stadium, and away supporters will not be admitted to these sections.

     

     

    We would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who used our website to register their interest in purchasing tickets over the last week. This generated an overwhelming response, meaning we are unable to reserve, or offer pre-booked tickets. However, the information which we gathered was vital in allowing us to demonstrate the increased demand for tickets, and formed a vital part of our discussions regarding the match venue.

     

     

    http://www.eastkilbridefootballclub.co.uk/

     

     

    so those in full time emplyment and who work on a Monday, apologies! I wouln’t have gone anyway ;-)

  14. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    HAMILTONTIM

     

     

    I can see ‘GG’s point. I hate criticising Celtic.

     

     

    I hate it even more that they give me good reason to do so.

     

     

    Yesterday was a shocker,as soon as the penalty and red card were given,there was a collective ‘Aw,f…’ from the fans,the players and the bench.

     

     

    Time was we would have rolled our sleeves up and asked ‘Is that the best you can do?’

     

     

    Not now. In adversity,we expect defeat.

  15. BMCUW

     

     

    I hate criticising Celtic too. My point was that after the gutless performance of some in hooped jerseys yesterday, criticism was deserved.

     

     

    Must dash.

  16. Big Peat of Islay on

    Well everyone has to step back from this atrocity of a result and look at the bigger picture, just like Ronnie asks.

     

     

    What is the big picture?

     

     

    Champions League – whipping boys

     

    Europa League – worse than whipping boys

     

    League Cup – I weep

     

    League – don’t expect anything other than calamity

     

     

    That is the BIG picture. No more excuses about time, bedding in, blooding, systems.

     

    Call a spade a spade.

  17. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on

    Good Morning Timland.

     

     

    Transfer window about to be slammed shut,I’m

     

    more excited about who we can off load than I

     

    am about who we bring in,that ain’t right.

  18. big Peat

     

    65.6 v 65.5 I reckon? Won’t split hairs over it.

     

     

    I honestly hoped upon hope that Ronnie would succeed. I think he comes across as a decent, honest guy but I fear he just isn’t up tot he job.

     

     

    in a season and a half we have lost too many games and seen a few draws in games we should expect to be winning:

     

     

    Legia 1-4

     

    Caley 0-1

     

    Maribor 0-1

     

    Dundee 1-1

     

    Motherwell 1-1

     

    Hamilton 0-1

     

    Astra 1-1

     

    Salzburg1-3

     

    Zagreb 3-4

     

    D UTD 1-2

     

    Ross C 0-0

     

    St J 0-1

     

    Caley 2-3

     

    Killie 2-2

     

    Malmo 0-2

     

    Aberdeen 1-2

     

    Molde 1-3

     

    Molde 1-2

     

    Motherwell 1-2

     

    Ross C 1-3

     

     

    We continue to downsize. Will a different manager do better than the above operating under the current PL operational strategy? If the answer is yes then he needs to go. If the answer is not, then accept this is the future for CFC.

     

     

    Appears many already have accepted that the present is good enough.

     

     

    My opinion remains unchanged. Peter Lawell is the problem.

  19. Peter Lawell. Has one remit

     

    To ensure that the limited resources we have are used in a way that allows our team on the park to be good enough to beat Ross county’s , Molde , Malmo legia etc who have far far less resources than we do

     

    He has failed. No point in sacking Ronny without a chance at top

  20. Big Peat of Islay on

    Twists / SydneyTim

     

     

    I agree PL is the problem. However, we need to deal with the front line. We are being pummeled by teams resourced in a far inferior manner than we are. Even an average manager should be able to at least win these games.

     

     

    It will take an empty stadium with a few demonstrations outside to do anything with PL.

     

     

    People power always works.

  21. Does anyone like criticising their own?

     

     

    Do parents enjoy criticising their kids?

     

     

    Do brothers gleefully criticise their sisters or sisters their brothers?

     

     

    Does anyone truly enjoy criticising their own?

     

     

    NO!

     

     

    But sometimes it is what is needed and is the only thing that will give them the good boot up the arse they need!

     

     

    This Celtic management team and a number if it’s player require that good boot up the arse. The board requires it with a size 12 boot!

     

     

    Anyone who thinks this Celtic team is anything better than run of the mill Scottish Champions in the face of little competition is living in the land of the Munchkins.

     

     

    How far will our team be downsized and our community thought managed by the machavalian PLC that are running us into the ground, before some will be brave enough to sniff the aromour of the coffee they are drinking and realise we are now not in free fall from good to mediocre but mediocre to poor.

     

     

    Aye. The occasional humping of dross makes us feel like world beaters. But until we stop beating ourselves down from the top while the pied Peter pipes and we follow in blinkered green glasses this will only get worse.

     

     

    Yes we will win the league and that will be celebrated but really it is the least we should expect given the incisors tench of our competition. We might win the Scottish Bigot FA cup, but there’s a fair chance we won’t. We might/might not qualify for the Europa league. We have been managed to accept we will not qualify for the Champions league.

     

     

    Oh so much to look forward to.

     

     

    Well at least the pied Peter and Desmond the missing get their dream back next season.

     

     

    MWD sighs.

  22. Yes, the decisions went against us, but the manner in which we reacted gives the game away.

     

     

    We have no heart, and a severe lack of character in that team.

     

     

    Gordon, Tierney, Griff, Brown excepted. Possibly the new defender… the rest, bottlers.

     

     

    If we are pinning our hopes on Biton being the next EPL windfall, we might be in for a shock when people actually watch him play. Far too languid and complacent. Johanssen just looks like an idiot these days, and Lustig and Boyatta are so far of the pace it is embarrassing.

     

     

    Armstrong and GMS blow hot and cold. They look as if they think they are still playing for United. We need much, much more from Celtic players.

     

     

    Ultimately Ronny needs to accept responsibility. He has to install spirit in the team, like MON did, or buy players with heart.

     

     

    As for PL – I struggle to see how his tenure in the last few seasons can be judged acceptable. We appear to be going backwards on and off the pitch.

  23. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    As is to be expected,after our team lose, there is a fair bit of sadness, anger and an apportioning of blame .

     

    Which one of those you feel or adopt, says more about your character than it does about Celtic.

     

    We have had a fair mixture and quite a few who were critical managed to be so in a clear and controlled fashion. The Usual Suspects trotted out the predictable cliches and added nothing, really, nothing to the Blog.

     

    Although I thought, after the sending off, Ross County were the better side, the stats showed otherwise. As for players not trying? Not in the game I watched. Bitton was his normal, laconic self. That is his game. Others gave below standard performances but I felt everyone at least tried. It is not just Beauty that is in the eye of the Beholder.

     

     

    JJ

  24. Not sure I accept there was a lack of fight and heart. Celtic teams have done better against 10 men in the past, but this time it was for 80 minutes on a big and heavy pitch. From the sending off until half time we were by far the better team. The 2nd goal was a killer because it left us in a position we didn’t want to be with 10 men, chasing the game. Make no mistake, their 2nd goal was as blatant a foul as you will ever see on a goalkeeper. Thomson was looking straight at it.

  25. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    At least the books will be balanced, what more do you want or need ?

     

    come on the Plc.

  26. Big Peat of Islay on

    I’m fairly scunnered by the Celtic’s direction and have been for years. I’m not talking about taking stupid financial gambles, but by taking some measured and controlled risk to achieve at least something that we can be happy with as supporters.

     

     

    The Groundhog day script of embarrassing results in Europe and the smorgasbord of patronising jibberish we are served up by the PLC is taking its toll.

  27. Jungle Jim Hot Smoked on

    MWD said:

     

    ” Does anyone like criticising their own?

     

    Do parents enjoy criticising their kids?

     

    Do brothers gleefully criticise their sisters or sisters their brothers?

     

    Does anyone truly enjoy criticising their own? ”

     

     

    Do any of those things ever happen unfairly?

     

    JJ

     

    PS I don`t agree with you but I liked your `pied Peter pipes` . Very catchy.

     

    PPS You can call me Munchkin.