A group of Russian and Ukrainian clubs hoping to form a joint championship have formed an organising committee and have invited top flight clubs in both countries to a meeting in Moscow on 18th of February to formalise arrangements.
The invitation letter states, “The main goal of our organization is the development of club, national and European football”
“In order to bring football to a new level, we propose to combine multiple national championships in one tournament. Initially Ukraine and Russia will be involved but in order to develop the strength of our game, the league could be extended to all former-Soviet countries.
“We are convinced that this new championship will be a model for other territories; this integration process is the future of football.
“This initiative will create healthy competition, increase entertainment game and increasing revenues from television broadcasts and advertising – just some of the benefits of unification.
“All of this will allow individual clubs to benefit as well as national teams, who will gain from players working in a higher standard of league. This is perhaps a unique case in sport where all participants are able to win.
Soviet Sport spoke to several Russian teams who confirmed they will attend. Sergei Palkin, the chief executive of Shakhtar Donetsk, was cautious, suggesting Ukrainian clubs and the Federation need to act with unity, “I hope this meeting takes place but only after Ukrainian clubs have chosen a common position.
“Then we can decide who should attend. The Football Federation of Ukraine need to be active, they can unite clubs and deal with the proposal appropriately.”
Note their points:
“Main goal… development of club, national and European football”.
“Bring football to a new level”.
“Develop the strength of our game”.
“This integration process is the future of football”.
“This will allow individual clubs to benefit as well as national teams”.
“Create healthy competition, increase entertainment game and increasing revenues from television broadcasts and advertising”.
Amid all the talk about reorganising our game has anyone had the clarity of vision to articulate the above aspirations? Having lived with threats from “the big five” leagues for long enough other demographically-challenged countries are putting plans in place to allow their clubs a sporting chance. It will soon be “the big six” and thereafter, who knows?
Why on earth are we worried about the number of lower divisions we have? Regionalise or wither on the vine – and do your best to ignore any muppet who suggests taking legal action because he got his sums wrong. The only change worth having will be consensual and will benefit all in our game.
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Amazing how quickly Alex Thomson can track down a story,compared to our own Scoop dogs in this country.
Steinreignedsupreme
11:39 on 7 February, 2013
Auldheid 10:58 on 7 February, 2013
‘The problem with Rangers fans (new club same supporters) is they lack leadership.’
Their more fundamental problem is that they are deluded. Their culture tells them they are superior. That they are predestined to succeed. Once they internalise that belief system they lose the capacity to question and that makes them vulnerable to every two bit conman who sees them as easy prey.
TAL.
The Token Tim .
It takes me 2.5 hrs to drive to the airport . She does it in 90 minutes / one handed whilst talking to a friend on the phone /wearing stilettos / mirrors no / lndicators no . I once barked at her re using the mirror and got this in response – ” Why -does my lippy need retouching ? “
•-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• 11:41 on 7 February, 2013
I think supporters most clubs would react in the same way as Celtic fans did.
We’ve had a recent example with Hearts fans attempting to save their club. Rangers fans lust expect to be given a helping hand at all times – that is the mind-set.
The chances of Liverpool or Man Utd supporters allowing some joker who doesn’t even go to games to speak on their behalf is zero. It simply wouldn’t be allowed to happen.
Swallow Swallow concentrating on making personal attacks on Thommo’s character than hearing the message.
They will never learn.
AT’s live debate starting in little under 25 mins.
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/
AT hosts the debate and the panel also includes a Rangers fan, a Scottish journalist and a legal expert.
Could get rather interesting (and heated I’d imagine).
HH
/Bishop B
MHARK67
11:34 on 7 February, 2013
The last sentence of the piece is actually how most sevcovians operate, “ignorance is bliss ” , they do not want to hear bad news,who does, and will bury there heads up whoevers arse tells them what they want to hear.
Just love them for that :)
Posted on Thursday, 7th February 2013 by Joe McHugh
Scotland scored three international goals last night- with all of them coming from Celtic players!
Gordon Strachan’s regime got off to a winning start with Charlie Mulgrew netting from a cleverly worked free kick.
In Greece it was Tony Watt that scored the equaliser for the Scotland u-21 side in a 1-1 draw while Denny Johnstone netted for Scotland’s u-19 side in their 2-1 defeat away to Holland where classy John Herron was the man-of-the-match.
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ernie lynch 11:51 on 7 February, 2013
Aye. As mental as that sounds, it is all so true.
Len Brennan
11:53 on 7 February, 2013
‘the panel also includes a Rangers fan, a Scottish journalist and a legal expert.’
Is that three individuals, or one?
Billies Bounce .?
Best done by Charlie Parker on the excellent – The Savoy Recordings .
The Dexter Gordon version is from a live in early 60s Copenhagen thing and is a bit supper club pedestrian.
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Re: “No settlement reached in winding up order” – Thomson.
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Is AT Opus Dei? Seriously, why would he devote so much of his time to this p***?
ernie lynch
11:57 on
7 February, 2013
Len Brennan
11:53 on 7 February, 2013
‘the panel also includes a Rangers fan, a Scottish journalist and a legal expert.’
Is that three individuals, or one?
………….
Clearly it is two people a legal expert and a Rangers fan journalist.
Steinreignedsupreme @ 11:39 said: ‘The problem with Rangers fans is …”
… (IMHO) the ‘problem’can be explained by demographics:
There are simply too many recalcitrant types amongst their following, whose unhealthy influence is compounded by the club’s vainglorious leadership over the past 20 odd years (and arguably much longer than that), during which time the club’s business model has relied on (some might say ‘pandered to’) a bedrock income stream stemming from what others have dubbed Scotland’s ‘White Underclass’ (i.e. those of an Orange persuasion).
Ostensibly for ‘business reasons’, no one at the club has shown much inclination to tackl this issue and the present owners are actually, brazenly exploiting it …
FF
ernie lynch
11:51 on 7 February, 2013
Steinreignedsupreme
11:39 on 7 February, 2013
Auldheid 10:58 on 7 February, 2013
‘The problem with Rangers fans (new club same supporters) is they lack leadership.’
Their more fundamental problem is that they are deluded. Their culture tells them they are superior. That they are predestined to succeed. Once they internalise that belief system they lose the capacity to question and that makes them vulnerable to every two bit conman who sees them as easy prey.
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Which is why the original post on Awakening that started the ball rolling is so apt.
Hasta luego, bhoyos….
….off to visit Square Records and The Red Fort. Indie music shop and Indian restaurant.
Cabin fever got the better of me…..can take no more.
“I may be some time….”
FamousLastWords CSC
STEINREIGNEDSUPREME
I’ll bear that in mind-The Doric Arch is as good as any for a meet-up and take it from there.
Not sure if the Cock Tavern is still going.
Phil MacGiollaBhain
@ Pmacgiollabhain
I am told a standard ploy of distressed companies is to find some loophole to dispute bona fide invoices. That may explain the Orlit story
The panel:
Gary Calderwood – Rangers fan
Stewart Weir – Football journalist
Adam Morallee – Sports lawyer
Looks like there’s two ‘Rangers fans’ on the panel.
‘Last year in the Caledonian Mercury, the journalist Stewart Weir picked up the same issue when discussing the BBC mantra that it placed “absolute value” on its “accuracy and impartiality”. He said:
“Is that the same kind of “accuracy and impartiality” which saw a wee weather lassie refer to Ibrox as “Castle Greyskull” […] or tagged a photo of one-time Gers midfielder as Kevin “cunt” Thomson”, or labelled a picture of Nell McAndrew modelling the new Rangers kit as “the hun”?’
http://www.therangersstandard.co.uk/index.php/articles/current-affairs/170-is-bbc-scotland-biased-against-rangers
“Story about bigotry – captions with orange parades or guys with Rangers gear on. Story about football violence – picture of Rangers supporters. Story about Hearts fans booing a minute’s silence when the Pope dies – picture of Rangers fans.”
Folly Folly 12:02 on 7 February, 2013
Aye. When all else fails they just state ‘watp’ like it really means something … although that is often the starting position.
Woops!
Sweary word alert.
Folly Folly .
Yes —- A Rangers supporting acquaintance of mine chucked it within weeks of Moonbeams taking over -his view was that Murray had made the decision to pander [and profit from ] to bigotry and it would all end in disaster .
Mate of mine recently met said acquaintance and was told that whilst Murray had fleeced the bigots , the current owner was fleecing the type of people who do that hanging on thing at walks etc..
I think the man has a point.
Folly Folly
“stemming from what others have dubbed Scotland’s ‘White Underclass’ (i.e. those of an Orange persuasion).”
You mean Rednecks or Hillybillys or just folk fae Airdrie??
This live debate isnt very live
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS 12:10 on 7 February, 2013
The Cock was in its last legs the last I heard. But there are plenty of choices in that area.
DontPatmadug
12:18 on 7 February, 2013
‘This live debate isnt very live’
Has it been wound up?
ernie lynch
12:21 on 7 February, 2013
not a lot happening as in nothing happening.
This is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Vh9LjrUdI&feature=plcp
Charles Green is a shrewd businessman. Charles Green doesn’t pay out money until he absolutely has to. Charles Green knows what he is doing.
No story here, says Charles Green.
kayal33
11:29 on
7 February, 2013
FourGreenFields
10:08 on 7 February, 2013
Thanks for your reply mate , my eldest Bhoy turns 16 soon and has been on at me to take him to a game abroad . Will look into it , cheers.
HH
miki67 @12 10
Square Records — ?
Wimborne ?
Does it still sell second hand 45’s ?
I think the two huns have set aboot oor Alex
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/rangers-join-online-debate/4050
starry plough
Yeah, those ones: ‘Rednecks or Hillybillys [and] folk fae Airdrie’.
Folk who are possibly unable – and certainly unwilling – to get their heads around the concept of the ‘Constitutive Other’.
Most of us do this unconsciously, through a combination of nature and nurture; plus a modicum of common sense.
Some of our fellow countrymen are simply incapable of making this evolutionary leap.
Every society has people like this: we, in Scotland, are merely blessed with having a high number of them gathering fortnightly at a football stadium in Glasgow …
FF
Don’t use the links (youtube or google) just click the window on AT blog page.
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/
HH
/Bishop B
Is anyone else having a problem with the sound?
starry plough
One final comment on this, by way of further illustrating my point: in his 1944 play, No Exit, our old existentialist pal, Jean-Paul Sartre, a character ‘Garcin’ who had a line: “Hell is other people” (“L’enfer, c’est les Autres”).
I’m sure those words are strangely familiar to many followers of Scottish football …
FF