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There is something curious about the England national team.  While pretty much every other country around England’s calibre select players, on merit, from clubs large and small, for decades England appear caught emperor role, seldom selecting players outside a top clutch of clubs.

This made Southampton striker Rickie Lambert’s recent selection memorable, despite the fact that his club sit comfortably above several of England’s heavyweights, significantly as a consequence of Lambert’s play.

Fraser Forster has been the best goalkeeper in Britain for a year, but he is English, and he plays domestic football for the Scottish champions, so despite his Champions League credentials, England Roy Hodgson has not capped him.

With the incumbent “England’s number 1” producing ample material to have most national team managers hide their eyes, no matter what Hodgson thinks of his preferred keeper, today’s news coverage suggests he has been boxed into a corner.  If he plays Joe Hart in Brazil, and the keeper performs to his current level, Hodgson will carry the can for being the last man in England to see the obvious.  England managers have a long record of having to deal with strong media sentiment coming to bear on their selections.

I’d like to see Fraser get the recognition he deserves.  It would also be good for Celtic to be able to offer not only Champions League football, but also the chance to gain international recognition, at an ever-higher level.  Holding onto him is another story, but all of those who were so upset when we passed on Stipe Pletikosa to take Newcastle’s third choice will not be too upset at that.
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  1. Twists N Turns.

     

     

    Your right.Senility arriving quicker than I thought.but He hasn’t died in my eyes,I used to go to the dogs in Falkirk,and there would be Neilly standing at the winning line, every race.( I think he bet on the photo finishes)

     

     

    Sorry for that misinformation, but the six different positions were correct. Fantastic servant to Celtic.

     

     

    Blantyretim.

     

     

    I didn’t realize he had passed away. As t&t said I was looking at John Clark and thinking it was Neilly.

  2. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    supersutton

     

     

    20:20 on 29 October, 2013

     

    -1———————

     

     

    Only time I was really worried was against ShackedUpLagerShandy – three or four times he could have came for it, and particularly the one that bounced from a throw in right in front of him.

     

     

    That said, it is only a minor gripe, and he more than makes up for it with his shot-stopping, which is awesome.

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC

  3. ASonOfDan

     

     

    Is King still a Millionaire?

     

    __________

     

     

    Rumour has it – he’s some kind of Randiaire!

  4. leftclicktic oscar in our thoughts on

    jimbo67

     

     

    ” I found myself thinking at some point in every chapter ‘ God I never knew that’.

     

     

    In that case it is on my Christmas list :))

  5. Ramsdens have just announced that every player in the team that wins the cup will get a Sovvy ring and a 24 inch Belcher chain. What an incentive for Sevco eh.

  6. Blantyretim.

     

     

    I said to you on the phone my blood sugar level is at sixes and sevens today,the way I’m thinking it still is at 6&7s.

  7. Hail Hail all, I see peace has broken out on the blog, good times.

     

     

    Notthebus 20.21 – don’t think Sevco are playing for a plaice in the final, but that’s their sole focus. Hope they flounder tonight.

  8. Pretoria – Dave King settled on a payment

     

    of R706.7m to the South African Revenue

     

    Service (Sars).

     

    Sars confirmed on Thursday that a

     

    settlement agreement was reached between

     

    King and the State.

     

    This settlement was achieved following

     

    submissions made to Sars by King and

     

    entities associated with him.

     

    “My experience should serve as an example

     

    to taxpayers, who find themselves in a

     

    similar position with Sars,” said King.

     

    “Rather seek early resolution and cooperate

     

    with Sars when asked by them to explain

     

    your tax affairs. I am delighted to finally

     

    put this behind me and to be able to

     

    actively resume my business career.”

     

    The Scottish-born was in the news again in

     

    June when he claimed R33m from Gary

     

    Player, for what King says was a loan of

     

    R6.1m made to the golf icon in July 1999

     

    plus interest on the loan. This matter still

     

    has to be resolved.

     

    The governance and oversight committee of

     

    Sars found that the submissions that were

     

    made met the requirements of the

     

    applicable tax legislation.

     

    HSBC, which acts as trustee on behalf of

     

    King and the associated entities, as well as

     

    King in his personal capacity and members

     

    of his family, were all signatories to the

     

    settlement agreement.

     

    King has conceded his tax debt and has

     

    agreed to a payment of R706.7m to Sars in

     

    respect of his personal income tax and the

     

    tax liability of Ben Nevis, a King trust

     

    company managed out of Guernsey.

     

    The fraud charges against King were not

     

    pursued by the State and King accepted

     

    liability in respect of 41 lesser counts of

     

    contravening Section 75 of the Income Tax

     

    Act.

     

    This includes the failure to disclose

     

    information and the failure to provide

     

    correct information about incomes earned

     

    over a number of years.

     

    King appeared before the Palmridge

     

    Regional Court on Thursday and entered

     

    into a plea and sentencing agreement with

     

    the NPA.

     

    King has to pay a fine totalling R3.208m

     

    (R80 000 per count) or 24 months

     

    imprisonment.

     

    In addition, he was ordered to pay an

     

    amount of R8.75m towards the Criminal

     

    Asset Recovery Fund.

     

    “When this tax dispute arose many years

     

    ago I took a conscious decision not to

     

    cooperate with the authorities,” said King.

     

    “That was a mistake. I regret not engaging

     

    with the State sooner as I have found them

     

    to be extremely firm, but fair in their

     

    dealings with me once I fully engaged with

     

    them.”

     

    He accepted the fact that he has been non-

     

    compliant in the past and said he will

     

    rectify it.

     

    Sars said it welcomes the finalisation of the

     

    matter and the settlement.

     

    “The outcome demonstrates that Sars

     

    remains approachable to any taxpayer, who

     

    wants to resolve a tax dispute in a bona

     

    fide manner, even when formal processes of

     

    litigation are before the courts,” said Gene

     

    Ravele, chief officer for tax and customs

     

    enforcement investigations at Sars.

  9. tommytwiststommyturns supporting Wee Oscar on

    Oldtim – think Neily’s grandson won the h/t £20K at the Barca game?! Fix….!!

     

     

    See Sevco are doing well at the crossbar challenge tonight. What time is the pen?!

     

     

    T4

  10. twists n turns

     

     

    Meant Billionaire lol! Phone must have changed it because I had King in the same sentence.

  11. Oldtim

     

    I knew about Neil loving the dogs. I was brought up doing the flapping tracks with some doggy men, and Neil was around a lot of the time. I think those who knew him referred to him as ” smiler” but maybe I’m getting mixed up about that. My memory is also shocking.

  12. 2011-07-20 20:22

     

    Johannesburg – The NPA on Tuesday

     

    disputed claims made by businessman

     

    Dave King against its asset forfeiture unit

     

    head, Willie Hofmeyr.

     

    “His letter does not correctly record the

     

    facts and it is false and misleading in

     

    numerous respects,” National

     

    Prosecuting Authority spokesperson

     

    Mthunzi Mhaga said in response to an

     

    open letter by King to Hofmeyr.

     

    NPA head Menzi Simelane has referred a

     

    corruption complaint from King regarding

     

    Hofmeyr to the police for investigation.

     

    A Sunday Times report on it quoted two

     

    sources as saying it was part of an

     

    attempt to shut the AFU down.

     

    In the letter, among King’s complaints,

     

    were allegations that the NPA offered

     

    him the option of paying a fine of R200m

     

    and not go to jail for tax irregularity

     

    charges, or of paying no fine but pleading

     

    guilty to fraud.

     

    Mhaga said the terms of any discussions

     

    between King and the tax authorities

     

    were protected by a court interdict, which

     

    King was allegedly violating by

     

    discussing them in public.

     

    This would be referred to the “appropriate

     

    authorities”.

     

    ‘Glib’

     

    He said King was identified as “N” when

     

    he testified at tax xourt and the

     

    commissioner and assessors hearing the

     

    case called him a “glib and shameless

     

    liar”.

     

    Mhaga said they could not comment on

     

    the content of the plea and sentence

     

    negotiations with King, but would say

     

    that decisions were not taken by Hofmeyr

     

    alone, but by the NPA executive

     

    committee.

     

    Finally, King’s statement that he would

     

    have no penalty if he committed fraud

     

    but would pay a severe penalty if he did

     

    not, is wrong, Mhaga said.

     

    “As he knows many of the charges he

     

    faced provide for a minimum period of

     

    imprisonment of 15 years.”

     

    Following the Sunday Times report,

     

    Justice Minister Jeff Radebe would meet

     

    Hofmeyr and Simelane to get to the

     

    bottom of apparent tensions between

     

    them.

     

    Hofmeyr was also accused of allegedly

     

    violating tender procedures for office

     

    refurbishment.

     

    He has welcomed an independent

     

    investigation into the allegations, and

     

    did not mind if the police investigated

     

    him.

  13. Tonight’s donation to charity line is – Raith (10/11), Montrose (4/6), ICT/Dundee Utd (draw) (23/10) and Stenhousemuir (at +3 goals) (4/6).

  14. NatKnow – Supporting Wee Oscar

     

     

    There was a great call on SSB earlier (I know, I know) where the guy commented that the Celtic fans were up to their usual bigoted singing at the Thistle game..what songs, says Jim Delahunt…why, the Soldiers Song, says the caller. you mean the Irish national anthem, says Jim….is it, remarks the caller. i never knew that….jeez.

     

     

    would our many Indian/Pakistani followers be bigots if they sang their national anthem?

     

     

    i think not.

     

     

    why is it so bad to be Irish in this country?

  15. Twists n Turns.

     

     

    I was at the Coronation Cup, and the 7-1 Games,faded memories, but I was there.

  16. Fit & Proper? Here is the Fraud case he got away with on technicalities.

     

     

    A “BUNGLED” prosecution that let billionaire

     

    businessman Dave King off the hook for fraud

     

    and racketeering could cost taxpayers

     

    hundreds of millions in damages and legal

     

    fees.

     

    King said this week he would use his

     

    acquittal to attack other cases against him

     

    and launch a R300-million damages claim

     

    for wrongful prosecution.

     

    King said the case showed that the National

     

    Prosecuting Authority (NPA) had “no hope” of

     

    even taking commercial cases to court, let

     

    alone successfully getting a prosecution in

     

    their favour, partly due to a lack of skills,

     

    internal rivalry and low morale.

     

    “I don’t believe the NPA could prosecute even

     

    a mildly [complicated] case. In a complex

     

    commercial case, they’ve got zero, zero, zero

     

    chance,” he said.

     

    Judge Margaret Victor was forced to acquit

     

    both King and MICROmega CEO Greg Morris

     

    last Friday, after one of the most bizarre

     

    reversals in recent history, when the NPA

     

    rested its case, failing to call all but five of

     

    the 71 expert witnesses, including Xstrata

     

    boss Mick Davis, Old Mutual, Sanlam and

     

    others.

     

    “It was astounding,” said one of the

     

    witnesses who was not called. “We were all

     

    ready to testify, and it is incomprehensible

     

    why the prosecutors effectively rested the

     

    state’s case.” Having signed confidentiality

     

    statements, witnesses could not speak on the

     

    record.

     

    “They’ve done a huge amount of homework

     

    over the last two years, so [resting the case

     

    like that] is poor. It’s not good enough to say

     

    that there are still criminal charges in the tax

     

    case against him,” said the witness.

     

    In acquitting King, Judge Victor also

     

    slammed the NPA for failing to put up a

     

    case, and criticised a number of “highly

     

    irregular” actions. These included conducting

     

    a search-and-seizure operation without

     

    authority and failing to store documents and

     

    a seized computer properly.

     

    King described this as a “momentous defeat

     

    for the NPA”, which is likely to have

     

    ramifications for other corporate crimes it is

     

    trying to prosecute, including those of

     

    construction firms accused of rigging World

     

    Cup stadium tenders and the Ponzi scheme

     

    case against Barry Tannenbaum.

     

    Although the 37 criminal charges related to

     

    Specialised Outsourcing were withdrawn, King

     

    still has 322 charges of tax fraud that he is

     

    defending, but they will not be in court for

     

    many months.

     

    King said he had racked up R400-million in

     

    legal bills for his various cases to date, and

     

    estimated the state had spent even more.

     

    This is in addition to R636-million that the

     

    state effectively forfeited when the NPA

     

    torpedoed a signed settlement with King in

     

    2009.

     

    SA Revenue Services (SARS) confirmed it had

     

    spent close to R200-million on legal costs.

     

    This excludes an unknown sum spent by the

     

    NPA in bringing the fraud charges against

     

    King that fell apart this week.

     

    But SARS spokesman Adrian Lackay stressed

     

    it had won a judgment against King’s

     

    company Ben Nevis for a R2.75-billion tax

     

    liability in 2010.

     

    SARS had recovered “significant amounts

     

    through the sale of assets for which various

     

    court orders were obtained. This included the

     

    sale of a Falcon jet. SARS would continue

     

    civil litigation to recover outstanding tax

     

    debts,” Lackay said. “Money spent on

     

    litigation should be seen in this context.”

     

    SARS has also frozen King’s assets overseas

     

    estimated to be worth R800-million in places

     

    like Scotland and Guernsey – freezing orders

     

    he will now try to overturn using this week’s

     

    acquittal.

     

    Lackay said the SARS international freezing

     

    order was not based on this case.

     

    During the case, which ran in the South

     

    Gauteng High Court from August 3,

     

    prosecutors claimed King had conned

     

    companies like Old Mutual and lied to the

     

    JSE when he made more than R1-billion by

     

    selling shares in Specialised Outsourcing in

     

    1999.

     

    A 1999 report by former Investec analyst

     

    Andrew Cuffe accused King of misleading

     

    shareholders and recommended investors

     

    avoid the company.

     

    King claimed Cuffe’s research report had

     

    been “discredited by Investec itself”, but CEO

     

    Stephen Koseff said through a spokesman he

     

    had “no recollection of such a conversation”.

     

    A 2001 forensic report by Ernst & Young said

     

    there was a “fundamental error in the

     

    preparation of Specialised Outsourcing’s

     

    financial statements for 1998 and 1999”.

     

    King was also later accused of secretly

     

    selling his trust’s shares in Specialised

     

    Outsourcing. But King responded: “Who did

     

    they think they were buying the shares from?

     

    They knew I had all the shares.”

     

    He said that if the institutional investors had

     

    a justifiable gripe with him they would have

     

    launched a civil action.

     

    The NPA said in a statement it was forced to

     

    acquit King after “a material witness” crucial

     

    to proving the authenticity of key documents

     

    was unable to testify for health reasons,

     

    which resulted in the documents being ruled

     

    inadmissible.

     

    Spokesman Bulelwa Makeke said she could

     

    not comment.

     

    The NPA annual report shows that it had a

     

    conviction rate of 91.6% when it came to

     

    “complex commercial crimes” for 2011/2012.

     

    But this does not show that the NPA enrolled

     

    only 754 cases during that time – about half

     

    the number it was prosecuting three years

     

    before, suggesting it was cherry-picking the

     

    easiest cases.

  17. timbhoy in spain on

    oldtim67, I remember 1 time a crowd of us went up to Celtic Park from Sussexto watch

     

    a Celtic v them cup game.

     

    We were in the Tolbooth & their was a prize if you could answer the question & no one had got the right answer in over 2 years.

     

    The question was,who won 2 cup medals with Celtic before he played a home game ?

     

    Well my wee pal disappeared & came back a couple of minutes later & said to the manager

     

    ” was it Neilly Mochan ? ‘”

     

    He couldnae believe it efter 2 years someone got iy right.

     

    He got a good bottle of whiskey as I remember.

     

    I said to him how the hell did ye know that ?

     

    He said ah didnae .Ah went & phoned yer Dad & he said right away och that´ll be our Neilly.

     

    I saw him a lot myself in the 50´s & I loved him too.

     

    Hail hail.

  18. 30.05.2008

     

     

    How do you hide a R1-billion fortune from

     

    the taxman? With bespoke help from offshore

     

    bankers desperate to get their hands on your

     

    portfolio, suggest documents emerging from

     

    the long-running battle between the South

     

    African Revenue Service (Sars) and its

     

    number-one target, Dave King.

     

    A series of memos, emails and file notes from

     

    the Bank of Bermuda, which is now a

     

    subsidiary of global banking giant HSBC,

     

    show how the bank, eager to secure King as

     

    a client, helped him restructure his network

     

    of trusts and offshore companies to “present

     

    a blind alley to any revenue investigation”.

     

    The documents are evidence in a Pretoria

     

    High Court trial, which will effectively

     

    determine whether Sars can seize assets held

     

    by King’s offshore structures.

     

    King made about R1,2-billion from the sale

     

    of shares in Specialised Outsourcing, the

     

    company he founded to handle treasury

     

    operations for parastatals and government

     

    bodies. The company’s share price crashed

     

    not long afterward, as news of the sales

     

    trickled out. It was pushed down further as

     

    concerns about the company’s accounting

     

    practices grew and King moved on to a new

     

    venture, Financial Insourcing Specialists.

     

    Angry institutional shareholders racked up

     

    massive losses while revenue authorities

     

    tried to reconcile King’s apparent enjoyment

     

    of a wine farm, a Ferrari and a private jet

     

    with his modest reported income.

     

    In late 2000 he was contacted by Sars,

     

    wondering where the government’s slice of

     

    the proceeds from the share sales were. He

     

    has since stood on the defence that the profits

     

    were a capital gain, not revenue, an incurred

     

    no-tax liability, but at the time he quickly

     

    set about making sure that the money, much

     

    of which was held through a company called

     

    Ben Nevis, stayed firmly out of reach of the

     

    fiscus.

     

    On November 15 2000, Steve Bougourd,

     

    senior trust officer at the Bank of Bermuda,

     

    wrote to his colleague, Dave Hewitson,

     

    saying: “Apparently DK wishes to ‘dismantle’

     

    current structure and transfer the assets of

     

    Ben Nevis into a new company, as the ‘tax

     

    authorities are chasing him’.”

     

    This is important for two reasons. First, it

     

    helps bolster the case that King was the true

     

    owner of Ben Nevis. Second, it suggests he

     

    restructured his holdings solely to escape tax

     

    scrutiny, which is a crucial plank in the case

     

    against him. King’s role in managing his

     

    assets was also to be kept quiet, Bougourd

     

    made clear: “DK’s position as an adviser

     

    should be very much an ‘off the record

     

    relationship’.”

     

    Less than a week later a summary of a

     

    meeting with King, circulated within the

     

    Bank of Bermuda, restates the case: “DK has

     

    no tax adviser but is happy there is no

     

    problem from his point of view in closing the

     

    Ben Nevis company. His intention is just to

     

    present a blind alley to any revenue

     

    investigation.”

     

    By March 9 2001 there was a clear plan,

     

    Bougourd wrote in an email to the bank’s

     

    Adrian Fairbourn: “[W]e are restructuring

     

    Ben Nevis to stop the South African taxman

     

    in his tracks. To kill two birds with one stone

     

    we are also liquidating all investments, as he

     

    wishes to take stock, consolidate his position

     

    and think through his strategy going

     

    forward.”

     

    Even at this stage, before the bank secured

     

    more of King’s business, the sums involved

     

    were substantial.

     

    “What we are doing is selling all his

     

    investments in the name of Ben Nevis, that is,

     

    a £10-million portfolio with Barclays

     

    Private Bank, and two Royal Skandia

     

    portfolios (managed by [Cape Town hedge

     

    fund firm] Alpha) amounting to approx £3-

     

    million.

     

    “There is already some £50-million on depo

     

    with Barclays Private Bank (he has a long-

     

    standing relationship with Sir Anthony

     

    Richardson),” Bougourd wrote.

     

    As the assets were sold they were

     

    “transferred up” to King’s Glencoe Trust and

     

    then into a new holding company, Metlika,

     

    “thus making a clean break with Ben Nevis”.

     

    “Other assets, namely a property and shares

     

    in Murray sports, are being reregistered in

     

    the name Metlika … Glencoe Trust is also

     

    selling its portfolios with Old Mutual and

     

    Capel Cure Sharp, which amounted to £2,5-

     

    million”, the email continues.

     

    The net effect of this move was temporarily

     

    to obscure from Sars the more than R500-

     

    million in cash and other assets that had

     

    been inadequately concealed by Ben Nevis.

     

    HSBC may have a difficult time proving that

     

    the Bank of Bermuda (which it bought three

     

    years later in 2004) wasn’t a wholehearted

     

    participant in a dubious arrangement.

     

    “The timing of the visit creates a great

     

    opportunity. He is heavily encashed, he is

     

    taking time out to think his strategy through

     

    and hopefully the markets will have

     

    stabilised a little by then and therefore offer

     

    a calmer selling environment. The key, I

     

    think, is that we need to be creative … this

     

    could be significant business for the bank,”

     

    Bougourd wrote.

     

    Sars’s efforts to recover R2,5-billion in taxes

     

    and penalties from King have been mired in

     

    a series of preliminary court battles over the

     

    seizure of assets and other technicalities —

     

    trial on the main tax charges is yet to begin.

     

    The state is pressing a raft of criminal

     

    charges, including money laundering and

     

    racketeering, against him.

     

    HSBC denied any knowledge of the type of

     

    services being provided to King through its

     

    subsidiary, Bank of Bermuda. Asked to

     

    comment on the evidence that its subsidiary

     

    had potentially been implicated in tax

     

    evasion and money laundering, HSBC said:

     

    “The incident would appear to relate to the

     

    period before HSBC acquired Bank of

     

    Bermuda. We do not believe, on the evidence

     

    presented, that HSBC is implicated.”

     

    King claimed he had no idea which court

     

    case the documents related to, saying Sars

     

    constantly changed its version. The “bully

     

    tactic” of “seizing everything” and forcing

     

    “you to negotiate with them” has only made

     

    him more determined to fight the case, he

     

    said.

     

    “We have fought for six years over the

     

    seizure of assets and still not gone to court,”

     

    he said. “After six years they have not won

     

    anything because their [case’s] merits are not

     

    good enough.” Despite the help of the South

     

    African Reserve Bank and the Financial

     

    Services Board “they still can’t beat me”, he

     

    said.

     

    “I believe in the legitimacy of the trusts … I

     

    will do everything within my power to

     

    protect the legitimacy of my interests until I

     

    lose the tax case.”

     

    Additional assets to seize

     

    Last Wednesday, Sars won the first round in

     

    its latest bout with King.

     

    The Pretoria High Court rejected with costs

     

    King’s application for the postponement of a

     

    trial to determine whether tax authorities

     

    can lay hands on assets held by Metlika, an

     

    offshore company allegedly used to hide

     

    hundreds of millions of rands in profit from

     

    the sale of King’s shares in Specialised

     

    Outsourcing.

     

    Sars wants the court to reverse a series of

     

    transactions in which cash, shares, and

     

    property were shuffled from Ben Nevis, one

     

    of King’s main offshore vehicles, to Metlika.

     

    Sars is leading evidence that suggests that

     

    this move was intended purely as a tax

     

    dodge.

     

    Ben Nevis owes about R1,4-billion in taxes

     

    and penalties and if the transactions are

     

    reversed it will mean assets worth at least

     

    R500-million flow back into the company,

     

    where they can be seized by Sars and sold.

     

    The trial, which is set down for six weeks,

     

    should help bring an end to six years of

     

    complex legal skirmishing over the recovery

     

    of money from King and set up the

     

    conditions for his trial on criminal charges

     

    arising from the affair.

  19. asonofdan

     

     

    20:23 on 29 October, 2013Is King still a Millionaire?

     

    Chris Tarrant retired last week so he wisnae taking any chances….cough cough

  20. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Oldtim67.

     

     

    I take it you are supporting resolution 12 with gay abandon ?

  21. I typed out a long script about the old school and bloody lost it there, not trying again, so an abridged version –

     

     

    Call me an auld Celtic romantic, but the longer I get in the tooth, the more yearn for the sights , sounds , and smells of the past. I love our magnificent steel framed stadium, seen in the skyline from most of south east glasgow, and from all the high points elsewhere, but I miss the floodlights and front door of old Celtic Park, and jeese oh, do I miss watching a match from the jungle. A living breathing bellowing monster, with 10,000 different opinions , but mostly the 1 supporting roar.

     

     

    I dont want the old school to go. If Celtic Park was the handsome edwardian Irishman , built by his own hands , and a beacon for the poor, then the Primary school was his Scottish bride, a place of education, and progression, hopefully many of the people who went through the gates acheved their dreams.

     

     

    She stands now like a widow. Still there, hanging on, still proud, and sometimes you catch something still beautiful about the old girl.

     

     

    I like buildings, I like Glasgow. I loved Celtic Park, and I admired the old school.

     

     

    I really wanted it saved, I feel a wee bit let down about this. Could more effort have been made, or was the plan allways to let it get so bad (which I dont believe by the way, looking at most of the outside) that it could be knocked down. Ive seen some great old pictures of players coming down Kerrydale Street and kids standing on the railings, The architecture of the school very alike the old Celtic Park frontage. I wanted this to stay, to be a reference to a great old history, to be a cornerstone , the lions on london road on the bus led by a horseman, what a picture, never to be repeated. The schools red stone would not have been out of place against the stadium and the arena, in fact, the thousands of visitors next year would have looked at it and thought ….. cool.

     

     

    We will have something new in its place. I listend to John Paul on the etims podcast, pretty good interview all round. He said demolition will start straight after the United game.

     

     

    I hope some of the old school materials are reclaimed, some of the stone used in the triangle, Please make it happen PLC, renew something.

     

     

    Get your pictures this weekend before its gone.

     

     

    ps, I would still try and re-erect one of the floodlights. sad as i am.

     

     

    http://www.glescapals.com/celtic/lisbonlions3.htm

  22. John McKay need look no further than Derek Ferguson for a player who didn’t really make it.

     

     

    He broke into Rangers first team at roughly the same age as The Maestro broke into ours.

     

    They played against each other for several years.

     

     

    Compare there respective careers .

     

    I remember the hype around DF.

     

     

    He couldn’t lace Peter Grants boots ,never mind The incomparable Paul McStay.

     

     

    TT

  23. Canamalar.

     

     

    Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

     

    20:48 on

     

    29 October, 2013

     

    Oldtim67.

     

     

    I take it you are supporting resolution 12 with gay abandon ?

     

     

    Of course.

     

     

    Glad to see you back on the blog,meeting up with TET in Barcelona.I’ll have to get him to get his wife to make me a leather belt. He’s bringing his wares to Barcelona.

  24. TinyTim

     

     

    True. But an even bigger failure than Derek was his brother Barry.

     

     

    He remains the most over-praised Scottish player I can remember, yet his career consists of 2 so-so spells at Der Hun, and one complete failure at Blackburn.

     

     

    He also disgraced the Scotland jersey.