I’ve read sanctimonious nonsense about how Celtic fans are enjoying these times, on how they should feel instead, and on how they will feel, one day. I’ve also read what utterings our chief executive and manager should limit themselves to.
Our manager and directors have so far said very little on the subject of Rangers, only responding to direct questions or when you, the Celtic fans, were brought into the debate, without reference to any of us, by the First Minister. Their response to Mr Salmond brought a swift and appropriate retraction.
It concerns me greatly that Scottish Premier League championships could have been won by a team playing improperly registered football players. It would concern me even more if my concerns, your concerns, were not shared by the people charged with speaking on our behalf. It is the responsibility of Neil Lennon and Peter Lawwell to leave no Celtic supporter in any doubt that they will vigorously pursue our supporters’ historical and future interests.
Mark Hateley’s piece on today’s Daily Record betrays a lot of hurt. He concedes this season’s title to Celtic, which he regards as “tainted”.
As someone suggested in the CQN comments section this week, “We don’t need your stinkin’ 10 point penalty”….. we have another 10 point lead in reserve.
Hately suggests you should have the “good grace” to move on as his club “attempts to battle for its very existence”, adding, “There is no need for the likes of Lennon and Peter Lawwell to continue to sink the boot in”.
We will move on once justice has been done and is seen to be done. Anyone who suggests otherwise, that somehow justice, the maintenance of ethical standards in the game, or even legality, are not things football fans, managers or directors should concern themselves with, has perhaps headed too many footballs in his time.
The coup-de-grace from Hateley was “So let Celtic get on with celebrating their title – a title they somehow failed to win throughout the last three years of financial troubles”. Does anyone believe Rangers would have won three leagues had they paid their tax instead of singing Jelavic, Lafferty, Davis, Edu, Naismith or Bougherra?
I think this guy is missing the point. If the First Tier Tribunal report confirms already-made allegations that Rangers improperly registered football players, this bling that Hateley is flashing in your face is ill-gotten.
The Celtic manager, directors and support, together with most others in Scottish football, have to ensure that Fifa rules on the registration of football players is not subverted.
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EmeraldBee\o/ says:
24 February, 2012 at 11:54
He may sound like one,but he is one of the regulars on here,
taking the pee.
In the new Muppet Movie, one of the main characters is a muppet called Walter who has been raised by humans, do doesn’t realise he’s a muppet till (spoiler alert!) later in the film.
I thought of Declan. (thumbsup)
I’m crestfallen (not crest broken like the huns) that no-one got my gag about Mud.
I thought it was hilarious.
IguessyouhadtobethereCSC
Classic Decslexia!
hamiltontim says:
24 February, 2012 at 11:55
Ht ,top marks sir,I would have had a very strong urge
to throttle the big tube.
Mark Hately and the Hurtin’ Huns – now surely they must have played the Ole Burns Howff ???
fat sam has interrupted his lunch and will be on ssn, mackies traditional right oot the freezer!
Disappointed to hear Plod could be on Our Hero’s tail. As he could now be a Fugitive it’s up to each and every Tim to offer their homes as a safe haven.
Where do you reckon the money raised from this is going? Does anyone else think AC Milan might be leaving empty handed?
rANGERs charity match
Awe_Naw, amadeus from previous thread
Just a question on your Theory involving Whyte, Murray etc etc
Where did Whyte deviate from the original plan?
What do you think the endgame is now?
How much does saverangers need to raise to make a bid for the club a serious possibility.
Apparently close to £6m has been pledged. How much genuine and how much from timposters, a twitterer suggests as much as 95% could be fake pledges?
Anyway, to put this into context we need to see how well the Rangers fans respond to calls for money to be raised. In 2004, Rangers launched a share issue aiming to raise £57m to help pay back debts and to put the club back on the right way to financial prudence.
The Rangers fans rallied round this cause and £51m was raised (total breakdown below). Not quite what was expected but pretty good going and if a similar amount can be raised this time around, Rangers might succeed.
Breakdown of £51m raised from share option
David Murray/Murray International Holdings – £50,275,000
New investors (1,263 new shareholders) – £307,530
Existing shareholders (3,237 existing) – £848,365
Total – £51,430,995
So, without David Murray’s contribution, Rangers fans (yes, those who are now being asked to save the club) invested a total of £1,155,895 in Rangers in 2004. That works out at a hefty £257 per person.
Mort
you guys also need to realise that the word hun is probationed now. you cant call somebody a hun anymore you never know who is listening to this blog so be careful what you say.
hail hail
Declan your to smart to be a hun (god help the huns)
If it turns out Rangers have fielded improperly registered and therefore in eligible players how long will it take Peter Lawwell to look out his big red file marked “SION FC” ?
Mark who???
Paul67 mentions players bought. What about players sold?
Bougherra was sold for £1.7m in August 2011, at the time when suspected practice of VAT / Tax witholding began. I wonder if this transfer is under any kind of microscope in terms of monies received and monies declared…
Just a mere wonderment on my behalf. I’m not suggesting anything improper… (sycronised) cough, cough…
I’ve figured out who you are Declan… How’s it going Charlie Nick?
To the theme of Beverly Hills Cop:
Hun hun
Hun hun
Hun hun hun hun
Hun hun hun hun hun (hun hun hun)
(thumbsup)
Paul, I think you’re being a bit hard on poor wee Marky.
I enjoy his column and his comments on TV. He is so hopelessly inarticulate, stupid and crazily biased in favour of thems, that he sounds like a parody of a thick hun!
Anyway, talking about stoopid huns. Compare and contrast (apologies for the length of excerpts):
“During the spell Paul Murray was guiding the Rangers finances as a member of the Alastair Johnston chaired board, the club’s audited accounts – on and off the field – were pretty damned impressive..
The debt to Lloyds Bank which the Paul Murray-Johnston board inherited from David Murray in 2008 was a staggering £36m and RISING!
By the time Craig Whyte bought Rangers from David Murray for a quid, the Ibrox debt to Lloyds had been HALVED to a manageable £18M..
Good business in anybody’s language.
And especially good business when weighed beside the success of the company’s product, the Rangers team.
For over the same three year period, Rangers won a total of seven trophies which included the amazing three-in-a-row championships and four domestic cups.
It was an astonishing feat and one which I know Paul Murray and Alastair Johnston will say could probably not have been achieved had the team not been in the charge of Walter Smith.
Though I also know Smith will counter by admitting it is just as unlikely that he could have achieved what he did without the backing of Paul Murray and Alastair Johnston, whose business acumen allowed them to slash the debt to Lloyds and yet still somehow manage find enough money to back Smith to, for instance, sign Nikici Jelavic.
When you examine all of that and ponder it slowly and reasonably, it makes it all the more difficult to know why there are still some people out there who believe all of the current problems which beset Rangers are the fault of the old board.
That was the keech spouted by Craig Whyte. How can anyone believe a word that man says? He is a proven liar and may well be proven to be a cheat and a common thief and nothing he says has any credibility whatsoever.
The old board, chaired by Alastair Johnston and with Paul Murray as a director, were good for Rangers. The facts, financial and football, prove just how good. The debt halved, three in a row titles and four cups. Not bad? No, a lot better than that.
A GOLDEN ERA OF GLORY!”
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Leggoland 23.2.12
And from the same t—t:
“Friday, 27 May 2011
JOHNSTON’S CHEAP JIBE
WHEN Alastair Johnston warned Rangers shareholders and supporters to be vigilant about Craig Whyte, the former chairman demeaned himself.
He also gave aid and succour to the many enemies of the Ibrox club in the media, who were just itching to write stories about a Rangers civil war.
But the American-based IMG big wig did something else. Something nobody who has covered the story has taken the trouble to highlight.
But something which many Rangers supporters have spotted, and have been talking about in the last couple of days.
Johnston left himself open to two major accusations regarding what many may consider was his own lack of vigilance during the period he acted as the Sir David Murray-appointed-Rangers-chairman.
The first is, why, if he is so big on being vigilant, was Johnston unaware for so long, of a £2.8M debt owed by Rangers to the taxman?
When this bombshell burst a few weeks ago, at the time when the club’s half-yearly financial report was published, it was the first time the debt had been mentioned.
So, did it suddenly tumble out of some old cupboard, which had to be forced open, as only Murray had the key?
Or did someone open the bottom drawer of a desk in the corner of the old manager’s office, where Murray used to hold court on matchdays, and find it buried under a good wine guide?
Just where had the £2.8M tax bill been? And why did Johnston, if he is so keen on vigilance now, not discover it sooner.
After all, when it surfaced, it almost acted as a dealbreaker in the long drawn out talks Craig Whyte was having with Murray.
Johnston, remember, was appointed as chairman by Murray and handed the mandate of finding a buyer for Rangers.
In that task he failed spectacularly, as it was not Johnston who ushered Whyte to the negotiating table. Maybe it is that which has narked Johnston.
Certainly Rangers supporters who were impressed by his business acumen and reputation when he first sat in the boardroom chair at Ibrox, seem to take a different view of him now.
It was heartening for those supporters to see new owner Whyte adopt such an aggressive position in response to Johnston’e cheap jibe….
….At Ibrox, the battle is not yet over. But Whyte is winning.”
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What do you call a group of stupid huns (seriously)?
A fuddle perhaps!
HH
Voguepunter, will do.
Folly Folly, I only stopped at those six as I couldn’t remember any more of them.
Snake Plissken, unbelievable that Hateley sees fit to remind us they won the league at the very time he is trying to deal with the reasons why they won the league.
philvisreturns, got it, thanks.
SFFS, yes, had to get it in. More to come later.
optimistic little soldier, indeed.
cavansam \o/ says:
24 February, 2012 at 12:04
By not taking hun FC down before the result of the appeal.
Hail HAil
do you ever wonder what folk in england would make of what passes for journalism in scotland?
my 9 year old daughter could drive a bus through the holes in this eejit’s thought processes.
are hateley and keevins… really… the woodward and bernstein of scottish investigative journalism?
to call this season’s title “tainted” falls somewhere between self-depricating irony, and libellious.
still, he must be making a fortune in sponsorship from crayola.
Saturday, 31 January 2009
The Gate In The Wood – Episode 49
EXPRESS DELIVERY
SFA Headquarters remain open the Monday of the September Weekend as Duffield has swapped the traditional West of Scotland holiday for the ” Northern Ireland ” 12th of July jamboree as a tribute to his daughter, Boynita.
Lynxman: Heavyweight package for Sir Gordon Duffield, Chief Executive. Ah require a signature, hen, keep this wey up.
Wilma (scribbles autograph): What in God’s name is in here ?
Lynxman: Ah dunno, hen, we don’t pack thum, we joost deliver thum.
Lynxman departs
Wilma (on intercom): Sir Gordon, a large package has just been delivered by Lynx. Will you give me a hand to lift it ?
GD: No, ask that lazy fool, Herb Drewbison, to help you in with it
Herb and Wilma take the package into Duffield’s office, place it on his desk and wait expectantly to see what it contains. Duffield dismisses the underlings, ushers them to the door which he locks behind them. He excitedly unwraps the packaging and reads the label on the large plastic tub :
NARROWBOAT MACAROON FONDANT :- Essence of potato and sugar. When used sparingly this fondant can be employed as a soothing agent for itchy, irritable, flaky, infested or blistered scalp. Please apply one teaspoonful (5ml) four times daily over affected areas. Our haddock is sourced from recognised, sustainable fisheries.
GD: Haddock ?
Saturday, 31 January 2009
The Gate in The Wood – Episode 50
KNIGHTS OF THE REALM
Wilma: Scottish Football Association, Wilma speaking, how much would you bid for an Argentina ticket ?
On the line is metal and precious stone magnate, Sir Murray David. Sir Murray was involved in a serious accident in 1976 which has left him with a serious and terminal disability – Sir Murray David is no longer capable of telling the truth !!
MD: Good morning Wilma and how are we today ?
Wilma: I’m good. How is business, Sir Murray ?
MD: Call me , Sir David.
Wilma: I will in future, Sir David and thanks for the reminder.
MD: Business is thriving, Wilma. While all around are suffering from the credit crunch David International Diamond Drilling Yieldings continues to thrive.
Wilma: Excellent news, Sir David and please remember diamonds are a girl’s…….
MD: Sir Gordon Duffield please
…………..
GD: Sir Gordon Duffield, Chief Executive, Scottish Football Association.
MD: Sterling work on the Argentina friendly, Duffers. We’ve come a long way since the Falklands.
GD: Sir Murray, so nice to hear from you. How are you this fine day ?
MD: On a bit of a downer, Gordon. Poor poor result for Celtic last night, bad result for Scottish football. I genuinely hoped they would win.
GD: Er…… me…..too. Anyway here’s hoping Motherwell will fly the flag proudly tomorrow night. You have some business you’d like to discuss ?
MD: Evidently. This friendly match against the Argies ?
GD: I prefer the term ‘challenge match’ Murray.
MD: Likely to draw in multi denarii ?
GD: I’d like to hope so.
MD: Increase your personal profit, Gordon.
GD: In what way Murray ?
MD: DIDDY Corporation has a new project starting shortly in North Lanarkshire at the former….
GD: Ravenscraig site ?
MD: Don’t interrupt, Duffers. At the former Darmeid mine in Shotts. Coal, Sir Gordon, black diamonds – the future, Duffers. The future is ours, the future is black.
GD: Count me in, Sir Murray.
MD: I’ll confirm matters at Lodge Novo, the next business meeting.Bring the SFA’s chequebook. Goodbye, Brother Duffield.
GD: Goodbye, Brother David.
What do you call a group of stupid huns – the SFA?
What Hateley doesn’t acknowledge is that when Celtic last faced Motherwell we were 15 points behind the evil empire at kick off as opposed to 20 now, if you take out games in hand and the administration factor we have still turned around a 16 point swing. This is a swing the press appear reluctant to give to our manager and team.
In the 1st half of the season we were without Izaguirre, our best player from last season. Only now are the Huns struggling from injuries, some would say inflicted by karma on Lafferty, Naismith and Whittaker (who between them cost £7m). They can still put out a team that cost in excess of £10m. Even if we include Forster as a £2m signing, the most expensive team we can put out cost around £14m.
There is not much between the 2 squads in terms of the costs to put together, the difference is we have a team and a manager, they have neither.
letthemdie
As always, well said Paul67.
He’s a muppet. A hurting muppet.
The weather is secondary in these heady times.
As someone who has tolerated all the excesses of the arrogant and usually talentless Masonic mafia that have held sway in Scotland all my life I would need about another half a century of Rangers humiliation to feel that justice had been done.
The handshake society that Rangers epitomise is Scotland’s bane.
As for this article which is again very good I don’t think Neil or Lawwell should respond to the ramblings of a semi-literate journalist from the Daily Record.
Our manager has let it be known that he will speak when the time is right and that time will be when the Appeal against Rangers abuse of the EBT is decided.
Then let them have both barrels and demand tainted trophies be stripped from the cheats.
I dont get up to many games,but I am looking for a ticket for the League Cup final is anyone can help.Im up in Edinburgh for St Patricks day and ideally will get the train through from there. Can anyone offer any tips/ticket offers? Im not sure what the demand currently is for them – Any advice welcomed.
Worst case scenario, I will make my way to the International bar…Is that still the best place in Edinburgh to watch the Celtic games? the last time I was there was to see Naka’s Freekick win us the league in injury time just as a couple of startled Japanese tourists were walking passed – They were quickly dragged into the pub and were the biggest celebrities in town for one afternoon only!!!so good memories of the place .
I want a trunchcoat!
That made me laugh out loud!
Classic!
Love on earth must be.
Missed the first line.
Top of the morning to you all from a bright, blustery Fife.
Definition of SFA – hunners o’ huns gien huns hauners.
Try saying that quickly when you’ve had too many jelly and ice creams…
jock tamson at 12:09
To be fair to Hately and Keevins … I think they’re no more than a couple of choobs who got lucky.
Paul’s title says it all: ‘Sanctimonious nonsense’
FF
Hate ly was creaming himself in lead up to last season’s Scottish Cup Final. Saying there were “eight die hard rangers fans in M’well team desperate to beat Celtic”. Only 8 retard??
Paul67 –
There is zero positivity surrounding Rangers (In Administration) and the worst has still to come.
This means people who have the interests of Rangers at heart are desperately clutching at straws in order to find some cheer. It’s not working of course, but these are very dark times for them.
It wouldn’t do for Hateley to admit that his out-of-his-depth pal McCoist chucked away a 15-point advantage in seven weeks and exited four cups before they reached the competitive stages this season. Thing is – he’s not fooling anyone, so honesty would have been the best policy.
Decwan sHUN
Peas don’t tell oan us fur usin the HUN word.
Peas.
MWD
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo 12.07
I see so Mitty thought he really was Minty and acted like he really owned Rangers rather then a dopey patsy.
Might the Huns not go down now anyway before the result of the appeal? or is that result so imminent that it’s not going to matter?
Where Hateley thinks we are ‘putting the boot in’ does he mean that, by winning games we are ‘putting the boot in’ if so I hope we keep putting the boot in until the end of the season. I can’t see how else he would mean it as they haven’t done anything else. Maybe he is just confused as his son is about to play for a team that will, in the coming weeks move ahead of his and it could stay that way for a while.
Paul67
HATEley is hurting badly, I think Celtic should refuse to do interviews with ESPN everytime he is a pundit.