Sanctimonious nonsense about Celtic fans from ex-Ranger

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I’ve read sanctimonious nonsense about how Celtic fans are enjoying these times, on how they should feel instead, and on how they will feel, one day.  I’ve also read what utterings our chief executive and manager should limit themselves to.

Our manager and directors have so far said very little on the subject of Rangers, only responding to direct questions or when you, the Celtic fans, were brought into the debate, without reference to any of us, by the First Minister.  Their response to Mr Salmond brought a swift and appropriate retraction.

It concerns me greatly that Scottish Premier League championships could have been won by a team playing improperly registered football players.  It would concern me even more if my concerns, your concerns, were not shared by the people charged with speaking on our behalf.  It is the responsibility of Neil Lennon and Peter Lawwell to leave no Celtic supporter in any doubt that they will vigorously pursue our supporters’ historical and future interests.

Mark Hateley’s piece on today’s Daily Record betrays a lot of hurt.  He concedes this season’s title to Celtic, which he regards as “tainted”.

As someone suggested in the CQN comments section this week, “We don’t need your stinkin’ 10 point penalty”….. we have another 10 point lead in reserve.

Hately suggests you should have the “good grace” to move on as his club “attempts to battle for its very existence”, adding, “There is no need for the likes of Lennon and Peter Lawwell to continue to sink the boot in”.

We will move on once justice has been done and is seen to be done.  Anyone who suggests otherwise, that somehow justice, the maintenance of ethical standards in the game, or even legality, are not things football fans, managers or directors should concern themselves with, has perhaps headed too many footballs in his time.

The coup-de-grace from Hateley was “So let Celtic get on with celebrating their title – a title they somehow failed to win throughout the last three years of financial troubles”.  Does anyone believe Rangers would have won three leagues had they paid their tax instead of singing Jelavic, Lafferty, Davis, Edu, Naismith or Bougherra?

I think this guy is missing the point. If the First Tier Tribunal report confirms already-made allegations that Rangers improperly registered football players, this bling that Hateley is flashing in your face is ill-gotten.

The Celtic manager, directors and support, together with most others in Scottish football, have to ensure that Fifa rules on the registration of football players is not subverted.

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  1. I overheard a conversation,before Christmas,it went like this.

     

    I was at a sports night last week,big Hateley was the guest speaker,he said “my boy will not be at Murderwell next season,he will be with a bigger club”I think he will be with the gers next season.Ha Ha .Deluded fools.Slan

  2. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    Craig Whyte has disputed the figures obtained by BBC Scotland.

     

     

    He said: “I will absolutely be back to finish what I started at Ibrox.

     

     

    I do ever so hope so!!!!!!

  3. “Although many associate Sanctuary with Catholics and Quakers, the denominational make-up of the movement was quite diverse.”

     

     

    Do you think Craig Whyte is taking advantage of this? St, Anthony’s is as good a place to start as any.

  4. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    Arsene Wenger on SSN, about to be hit in the puss by a wayward Kyle Bartley clearance!

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    HAMILTON TIM 1142 from previous.

     

     

    Thick eejit canny even spell tinted,neither can his-unaccredited today,I wonder why?-ghostwriter.

     

     

    It makes you wonder how a fella with no previous affiliation to the huns,and who has played for some of the bigger clubs in the world-AC MILAN and MONACO,for example,have something of a more Catholic tradition-comes to buy into their ethos.

     

     

    I genuinely don’t know the answer to that one,Goram for instance,became infected too.Other players have escaped with their soul intact.

     

     

    Me? I spend a fair length of time in Hun company,and the thought of becoming one COULD never cross my mind.

     

     

    I wonder what kind of easily-led mind Hately suffers from?

  6. !!Bada Bing!! Kano 1000 on

    From a good source Myth was offered £1.4 mil to keep Wolves inEPL.He might have been better placed for a donation then.

  7. Green Lantern (((((0))))) on

    Thank you Declan for making me snort tea all down my front as I was reading your post.

     

    Grrrrr!

  8. Alasdair MacLean on

    Hately,

     

     

    After all your multi-million pound purchased (tax-free) leagues, show’s all your follow-up euro medals….

  9. fanadpatriot says:

     

    24 February, 2012 at 13:34

     

     

    It could very well be the case – “the gers” could be the newco name and obviously as they will be playing in Division 3 they will need to down grade on the type of player at the club – therefore HATEleys son might very well be there.

     

     

    ZKS

  10. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    “My interest in buying the club had ended due to the potential cost of the impending tax case but I had met Craig via the Cadbury family and was told by people that he was a very successful and wealthy businessman who was interested in buying Rangers. (Ellis)

     

     

    Whytey had just nipped in for a 99!

  11. the_Bhoy_wonder on

    Over to Cork in a few weeks for St. Patrick’s Day celebration with the bhoys.

     

     

    Any suggestions on places to go for a night out and off course the cup final will be welcome.

     

     

    tbw

  12. cavansam \o/ at 13:39

     

     

    This point lept off the page at me. I wonder what it can mean.

     

     

    He has been trying agree a new deal with my shareholding much less but that still has not been completed and I have now handed my files over to my solicitor. But it wasn’t the shareholding that I was interested in, nor was it the property angle.

     

     

    As our erstwhile host might say, hmmmm

     

     

    Mort

  13. HECTOR - Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. Eating Jelly & Ice Cream. on

    Does anyone know if Ed Joyce MP for Falkirk is a member of the Westminster Rangers Supporters Club?

     

     

    MWD

  14. ‘crushed nuts?’ ‘Naw, Layringitis!’ – Whytey had just nipped in for a 99!

     

     

    I LOLed (thumbsup)

  15. Jim White, phud…

     

     

    Rangers director Andrew Ellis has apologised to beleaguered Light Blues fans for his part in bringing Craig Whyte to Ibrox – and claims he was also “duped” by the under-fire Gers chairman.

     

     

    London-based businessman Ellis introduced Whyte to former Rangers owner Sir David Murray in November 2010, after his own bid to buy the club had come to nothing and on Friday he told Press Association Sport: “I’m sorry.”

     

     

    Murray sold his majority shareholding in the Scottish champions to the Motherwell-born venture capitalist for £1 last May but the club is now battling for its existence after being forced to call in the administrators Duff and Phelps last week over an unpaid tax bill of £9million accrued since Whyte’s takeover.

     

     

    Rangers were deducted 10 points by the Scottish Premier League and are still awaiting the verdict from a tax tribunal regarding the use of Employee Benefit Trusts

     

     

    (EBTs) during Murray’s reign which could cost the club £49million.

     

     

    While the administrators try to untangle the financial mess at Ibrox, the Scottish Football Association have appointed Lord William Nimmo Smith to chair their inquiry into recent activities at the club.

     

     

    On Thursday, Rangers’ director of football, Gordon Smith, and chief operating officer, Ali Russell, agreed to leave the club at the end of the month in a cost-cutting measure while Strathclyde Police have taken receipt of a dossier pertaining to Whyte’s takeover from the administrators.

     

     

    In his first interview since joining the Ibrox board as a non-executive director, in January, Ellis said: “I can only say I’m sorry to the Rangers fans.

     

     

    “Bringing Craig to the table was done in good faith and like a lot of other people I feel let down by him.

     

     

    “I took Craig to meet Sir David Murray in the south of France and that’s when talks began and I’m distraught that it has ended up like this.

     

     

    “My interest in buying the club had ended due to the potential cost of the impending tax case but I had met Craig via the Cadbury family and was told by people that he was a very successful and wealthy businessman who was interested in buying Rangers.

     

     

    “He appeared to have the money, he showed me proof of funds and told me about the numerous companies he owned.

     

     

    “I was absolutely devastated last week to see the club go into administration with jobs at risk.

     

     

    “I am very disappointed that Gordon, a good Rangers man, with his experience, will no longer be working at Rangers and I wish Ali every success for the future.

     

     

    “But it could have been avoided.

     

     

    “I believe that if a sensible deal could have been done with HMRC there was no need for the club to go into administration.”

     

     

    Ellis insists he was unaware that Whyte had used money from the sale of future season tickets to buy Rangers.

     

     

    Whyte had stressed on January 31 that claims he had used cash from London firm Ticketus, reportedly £24million, to fund his takeover were not true.

     

     

    However, he was forced to backtrack last week after the club’s administrators confirmed that money from the deal had been used by the Rangers chairman to pay the club’s £18million debt to Lloyds Banking Group when he completed his takeover, and that they were looking for the rest of that cash injection.

     

     

    Ellis, a former board member of QPR and who once led a takeover of Northampton Town, said: “I was totally unaware of the Ticketus situation and when I asked Craig about it he denied it.

     

     

    “Like all the Rangers fans I feel duped but not only about that.

     

     

    “Craig and I shook hands on a deal that would see me getting 24.9% of the shares after his takeover.

     

     

    “I was to have a contract to come up to Scotland and run the club and my team were going to be Ali Russell and Gordon Smith.

     

     

    “I knew Ali from his time at QPR and had met Gordon through Jim White of Sky Sports.

     

     

    “Both Ali and Gordon joined the club before me.

     

     

    “After Craig took over he didn’t want to honour our agreement and I had to chase him around for months.

     

     

    “He has been trying agree a new deal with my shareholding much less but that still has not been completed and I have now handed my files over to my solicitor.

     

     

    “But it wasn’t the shareholding that I was interested in, nor was it the property angle.

     

     

    “I joined the board because I was interested in the challenge and opportunity of getting such a huge club back on track.

     

     

    “Rangers is one of the biggest clubs in the world but I think the marketing of the club over the last 10 years has been appalling.

     

     

    “I wanted to sort out the academy, but also try to break into the overseas market and take Rangers abroad.

     

     

    “I have read some negative things about my time at Northampton Town and QPR but the

     

     

    people I put in at Northampton are still there running the club and QPR are talking about moving to a new stadium – something I was talking about 10 years ago because 18,000 seats is not financially sustainable in the Premier League.

     

     

    “It was a massive opportunity to turn Rangers round and I still think that.

     

     

    “I am not stepping down until I find out the full situation with the administrators.

     

     

    “I am taking legal instruction as what to do next.”

     

     

    When asked about Ellis’s claim that he had been promised almost 25% of the shares, Whyte told Press Association Sport: “I am not going to comment on that”.

     

     

    Whyte claims that Ellis was aware of his funding plans for the club but “perhaps not the details of it”.

  16. Rangers have called off their move for Daniel Cousin, having failed to register the player with the Scottish Premier League.

     

     

    The Gabon striker agreed a deal to return to Ibrox for a second spell earlier in February, only for the club to go into administration days later.

  17. Couple of daft lhaddie questions:

     

     

    1. Could the police demand a lump sum now for all the remaining games at ibrokes?

     

    2. have they paid for M Cellick yet?..if not then why?

  18. Paul67

     

    Great article……

     

    “It is the responsibility of Neil Lennon and Peter Lawwell to leave no Celtic supporter in any doubt that they will vigorously pursue our supporters’ historical and future interests”.

     

    Right now they’re holdin’ yer jaikit.

     

    Pile it on.

     

    TAL

  19. merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and the Green Brigade but despises the anti irish/catholic bigotry inherent within the organisations who constitute the scottish establishment on

    ASonOfDan says:

     

    24 February, 2012 at 13:45

     

     

    This response is referred to as accepting reality!

     

     

    AKA

     

     

    Surrender to the HMRC

     

     

    HH

  20. So BBC Pundit Craig Paterson pledging £200o to support the Gers.

     

    I guess the BBC will need to bag him because many, with ling memories like me, will recall Jim Craig getting the punt for being openly “close” to a club when he came out in support of Celts for change and wee Fergus.

     

     

    The BBC said at that time that Jim’s impartiality was at jeopardy and he could not, in the name of the professional integriy of the Beeb, continue in his role.

     

     

    Sad part was that at that point Craig was a very good analyst and outdoes anyone the BBC use nowadays. However he was a former Celtic player so that had not been picked up in the “talent management” process.

     

     

    So if there is any consistency in the BBC it’s farewell to another Craig.

     

     

    Would not hold my breath though.

  21. It seems every thing is now being blamed on Craig White. Does that mean that they no longer place the blame on everything they do bad on catholic schools? or is it because of Catholic Schools that Craig White is to blame?

     

     

    Party when Rangers Die!

     

    ZKS

  22. 'crushed nuts?' 'Naw, Layringitis!' on

    ZooKeepersSon says:

     

     

    24 February, 2012 at 13:49

     

     

    It seems every thing is now being blamed on Craig White. Does that mean that they no longer place the blame on everything they do bad on catholic schools? or is it because of Catholic Schools that Craig White is to blame?

     

    [[[[[[[[[[[[[

     

     

    Yes, because he never went to one!

  23. Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon says:

     

     

    24 February, 2012 at 12:38

     

     

    Do you think Mark Hately could even spell EBT?

     

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    Yes. I’d like to see him write a column under laboratory conditions.

  24. According the savederhun.com they have approx 11800 members so that equates to an average pledge of 500.00 quid each- Well done chaps your generosity is legendary, helping the needy in their time of crisis.

     

    Keep up the bloody good work

     

     

    HMLizsaxecobergCSC

  25. Andrew Ellis from Northampton Town’s unofficial site.

     

     

     

     

    Casey, speaking in an interview to be broadcast on the STV Sports Centre at 10.35pm on Friday March 12, remembers Ellis’ spell with the Cobblers well, describing it as “shambolic”. He also insists that fans of the prospective Rangers owner’s former club will be shocked if Ellis manages to complete a move for the Scottish Premier League leaders.

     

     

    “Andrew Ellis, when he first came in, everyone thought ‘great, this is man who is going to take the club forward’,” recalled Casey of Ellis’ arrival at Northampton. “He was saying all the right things.

     

     

    “But then he left the club within eight weeks, stating business reasons. Who knows what they were. Within eight weeks he had left the club and it was a pretty shambolic eight weeks, to be honest.

  26. the bit in Hateley’s piece that had me laughing the most was this

     

     

    “No one expects Celtic to shed a tear over the state Rangers have got themselves into.

     

     

    But, even so, there is a venom about their recent reaction which has shocked me and should embarrass the more level-headed, decent people at Parkhead. I hope it does at any rate.”

     

     

    Venom lol really? Venomous flavoured ice cream and jelly or doing the conga in a venomous way. Why should i shed a tear for people who want to be up to their knees in my blood? He obviously hasn’t been at a Celtic game recently. It’s a party atmosphere, there is no venom there.

     

     

    As for his tainted title nonsense. If any team is gonna benefit from them being deducted 10 points surely it’s Motherwell. We dont need them.