My attention was drawn to the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations (SCVO) blog yesterday, also covered by Joe O’Rourke on the Association site. SCVO Director of Pubic Affairs, John Downie, writes about the “proposed bill on sectarianism” but seems to get muddled in his role as a director of SCVO and using SCVO resources to speak as a Rangers fan; in this instance blaming Catholic schools for sectarianism. How ironic.
Downie writes:
“We’ve previously seen Rangers fans outraged by Celtic goalie Artur Boric crossing himself during games but less bothered – obviously – by about our own players (like Vladimir Weiss last season) doing the same thing.”
“Our own players”! Is SCVO some closed shop where they talk about Artur Boruc as a “Celtic goalie” and Vladimi Weiss as one of our “own”?
So far, so disturbing, but Downie then uses the article to ride to the rescue with:
“The solution:
Personally, as someone who grew up in the East End of Glasgow and lives in the west of Scotland, I agree with some of what Conservative MSP John Lamont says. In my opinion one key causes of sectarianism is Scotland continuing to have separate denominational and non-denominational schools.”
So, if only we didn’t have Catholic schools, players like Artur Boruc and “our” Vladimir Weiss would be able to cross themselves free of harassment. Bizarrely, Downie’s article is subtitled “treating the symptoms not the causes”. I don’t think he was trying to suggest it’s best to treat the symptoms.
The cause of intolerance is not differences in ethnic, religious or sexuality, it is ignorant bigots. It is ludicrous to suggest tackling intolerance by assimilating people into some mono-culture. It’s downright dangerous to blame a minority for intolerance of, and by, them, a sentiment that will only fan the flames of hatred.
The European Examiner reports that various politicians have called for Mr Downie’s removal but SCVO chief exec, Martin Sime, apparently sees nothing wrong in SCVO running a blog discussing one of “our” Rangers players and the “Celtic goalie”, while simultaneously blaming educationally successful faith schools for sectarianism. SCVO has offered a metaphorical No Surrender to resignation calls.
A brief comment for those who don’t live in Scotland…. Attitudes like this once prevailed but are harder to find these days. We are a modern, progressive, society, for the most part.
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Ok chaps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzC_Y723F4
Can I just let everyone know that the Vanessa Riddle appeal stands in excess of £316,000 tonight– some 63% of target. That is an amazing achievement.
Further, there are a number of events and things this weekend not least our own Music Quiz tomorrow night and the one being held in the Admiral tonight.
BJ Mac was going to be in the music quiz tomorrow night but unfortunately failed at the edition question:
What two letters go to make up the name of Swedish Supergroup ABBA?
bjmac
I’m not in attendance tomorrow smarty pants :-)
Leaving in the morning for a weekend in the Lake District…..cos….that’s why the lady loves Milk Tray :-)))
WITS,
one night you will post a song that i know,not holding my breath that
it will be any time soon:-)
Listening to tonight’s Sportsound podcast tonight as they talked about manger
of the month award and wee Craigie’s embarrassment at winning the award – tbh fair do’s to Brown for speaking as he did.
Did not realise Billy Dodds was a voter. Interestingly, Jim Spence, a real journo. has been barred ….wonder why????
Dodds really struggled to justify the choice – as he should have.
How do these guys get away with it?
Can I just say.
I fink awe yoos Tims have goat it in fur awe thae Huns.
MWD
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 says:
10 February, 2012 at 23:54
it really is wonderful.
do you know the parents at all ?
a few years ago i met a lovely couple from Troon who were in New York getting married.
Looking at the pictures I have and the parents, they look pretty similar.
do you know them at all ?
Sponge Bhoy
Thanks for encapsulating what I feel and want to say perfectly – but can’t – without getting lost in histrionics ans history by equal measure. Superb.
Humbled
Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. says:
10 February, 2012 at 23:56
Can I just say.
I fink awe yoos Tims have goat it in fur awe thae Huns.
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thats cos i sawd your stuff about kaffy schools and england and all that smash.
you really hivne a scobbies dae ya.
dobber.
Gordybhoy
It would be a boring world if we were all the same
Here is some more Warren Zevron (The late and great) singing the unforgettable ballad of the urban guerilla
ROLAND THE THOMPSON GUNNER
What two letters go to make up the name of Swedish Supergroup ABBA?
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is it SAAB ?
they are swedish super cars eh
Sorry forgot the link
doh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIC4j6Rn9s4&feature=fvst
Bhoys,
I have 2 tickets for tomorrow’s game ( Celtic End or Jock Stein stand for you modern types) . They are the paper tickets for this game, not season tics.
They are (sort of ) free to a good home. I would ask that if you, or anyone else, wants them that they make a donation to the Vanessa appeal.
May put the offer on twitter as well to see if one of my 3 followers would be interested!!
Sorry for late notice but holder of tics just found out they can’t make it tomorrow.
I will need to collect in the morning so sooner I get a taker the better. Can meet ‘winner’ pre-match.
Choons, I even held her knitting for her, many moons ago, those were the days :>)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt8d3Shlfrg
WITS,agreed and it aint a bad thing to be listen to stuff i hadnt heard before
Hoopy-do.
Don’t get me wrong, I think all faiths, beliefs, and cultures should have equal room. I just think that maybe the school system isn’t the place to express this. It’s easier to create an “other” if they are kept separate.
I attended school in both Glasgow and for a while England. There is nowhere near as many Catholic schools in England (at least where I was), and granted they don’t carry the same symbolism as here. I think the problem is deep routed, but segregation never helps.
Obviously Catholic schools are nowhere as bad as the military style marking territory march, and yes catholics are a discriminated against minority.
davythelotion says:
10 February, 2012 at 21:54
Enough of this religious nonsense! What’s everyone giving up for LENT?
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Please don’t ask me to give up jelly n’ ice cream!
Yaaaasssss
Huns survive another day
Craig Whyte no1
May alli gorge on pies forever
Brth
Well said about the fa and capello. Supporting England still seems to do funny thing to people.
They’ve just got rid of the best manger they’ve ever had, thank god they wont be winning anything anytime soon
Countdown to Armageddon
Final Count Of The Collison Between Us And The Damned
The second track here is an album filler, but one of my favourite titles ever, especially in our football context. Back in the day I had a C60 track (in more recent days I recorded a MiniDisc) which I called Soothing Tunes For The Huns Game. I would listen to this on my walk from Leith up to the pub I got my bus from, which took the guts of an hour by the time I stopped for a full breakfast. When I got there my blood was boiling, and another two hours of reb songs on the bus and in the fiveways…
…I won’t miss the huns and all they embody, and I will rejoice in how they have ultimately defeated themselves (in a very colonial way)…but I will miss the opportunity to defeat them on days like Dr Jo’s 5-1, or Martin’s 6-2, or Wim’s New Years 2-0…
Death of Scottish football…my arse.
Like this lady’s voice as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX6vc3Z1IFQ&feature=fvst
THE EXILED TIM
I had a wee look at yer bet. Change bookie m8 for over goals. ;)
might be a bit blatant…
but is the resident singers party piece in jinkys in albufera – cant remember his name
jinkys
kingoh(likes jelly and ice cream) says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:00
I dont believe you…. No way do you have 3 people daft enough to follow you
St stivs
Not so super, they may be bankrupt before the Huns.
See what happens when you build cars that park in reverse
This is the best female singer I have ever heard in my life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOrqDx5dOp4
kingoh
i would love to take you up on that, boss
will donate to the Vanessa appeal
where you want to meet ?
Saint Stivs
Wouldn’t that be a coincidence??
No I have never met Vanessa, her paernets or any other member of her family i’m afraid. I have exchanged e-mail’s with her grandad who worked beside my brother in law but beyond that I don’t know the family. I was only asked to get involved because when they launched the appeal they obviously had no idea how it would go, and I was asked as a Celtic fan if I could spread the word because Vanessa was a Celtic fan.
Kingo cheers mi amigo! I do have LBhoy’s details and I’ll text/ phone him. How are you? Well I hope, you’ve been quiet on Cqn so I guess you’re busy or using other forums.
HH to ye!
V
Craig Brown.
SPL Manager of the month.
Two wins. Two draws. Goals for 4 – Goals against 2. One win and one draw at home, same away.
Neil Lennon – Three wins, no draws, no defeats. Golas for 7 – Goals against 1, two of which were away from home??
Has any other manager won the manager of month award with a record of 2 wins and 2 draws while another manager recorded a 100% record?
Has Sir Walter ever failed to win it with a 100% record????
They don’t even try and disguise it any more.
as i said!!
jinky’s
Any punters out there – If you go on Oddschecker.com – Hills,Ladbrokes and Skybet are all doing a promotion just now.Skake £50 on any selection,evens or better,and they will match your stake up to £50 with a free bet of that value.Also when you use your free £50 bet,they are giving out an extra £10 free bet as well.
£180 worth of free bets available there.I have used Ladbokes and Hills already.Going to hit Skybet on Sunday,have a dig at the golf,in-play.
Good luck everybody.
Talking Heads
A band from the West of Scotland talking about the Council on Foreign Relations well over 20 years ago deserves a mention on this amazing site.
The Beast of Jekyll Island eat yer heart out.
Exiled Tim
Nina Simone is one of the all time greats ,a hard act to follow
However
I will offer this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH6Tjw7KxE8
GL2,
I’ll give you a clue. I have 3 children!
Top Corner…..You are the winner!
I’ll be at the ground for 2 with The Kano Foundation. We meet against the cemetery wall at the corner of lisbon lion and north stands. The kano foundation banner will be on display and there will be about 40 kids milling about carrying green and white hooped bags. I can hang about for you if 2 is too early for you.
I’m the big, tall, folically challenged but good looking chap!
Sabre67
Exactly!
And that is why May is going to be so sweet.
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:14
Saint Stivs
Wouldn’t that be a coincidence??
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it would be aye, and it may just be another ayrshire couple from the same toon, but definately the guy in the pictures look the same.
i asked a pal in work , who is from troon if they recognised the couple in the picture, and they said yes sort of.
doesnt matter, i just wish the family as much goodness as possible.
your post on who we are, how we behave, what we want for others, its there in abundance in wahts happening for vanessa.
and kano before
and the beloved thai tims
and reamonn
and Pabloh
and Ton Che Dans family
and oscar
tarrant says:
11th February 2012 at 00:06
‘. . . and I will rejoice in how they have ultimately defeated themselves (in a very colonial way) . . .’
That, ladies and gentlemen, is it in a nutshell.