My attention was drawn to the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations (SCVO) blog yesterday, also covered by Joe O’Rourke on the Association site. SCVO Director of Pubic Affairs, John Downie, writes about the “proposed bill on sectarianism” but seems to get muddled in his role as a director of SCVO and using SCVO resources to speak as a Rangers fan; in this instance blaming Catholic schools for sectarianism. How ironic.
Downie writes:
“We’ve previously seen Rangers fans outraged by Celtic goalie Artur Boric crossing himself during games but less bothered – obviously – by about our own players (like Vladimir Weiss last season) doing the same thing.”
“Our own players”! Is SCVO some closed shop where they talk about Artur Boruc as a “Celtic goalie” and Vladimi Weiss as one of our “own”?
So far, so disturbing, but Downie then uses the article to ride to the rescue with:
“The solution:
Personally, as someone who grew up in the East End of Glasgow and lives in the west of Scotland, I agree with some of what Conservative MSP John Lamont says. In my opinion one key causes of sectarianism is Scotland continuing to have separate denominational and non-denominational schools.”
So, if only we didn’t have Catholic schools, players like Artur Boruc and “our” Vladimir Weiss would be able to cross themselves free of harassment. Bizarrely, Downie’s article is subtitled “treating the symptoms not the causes”. I don’t think he was trying to suggest it’s best to treat the symptoms.
The cause of intolerance is not differences in ethnic, religious or sexuality, it is ignorant bigots. It is ludicrous to suggest tackling intolerance by assimilating people into some mono-culture. It’s downright dangerous to blame a minority for intolerance of, and by, them, a sentiment that will only fan the flames of hatred.
The European Examiner reports that various politicians have called for Mr Downie’s removal but SCVO chief exec, Martin Sime, apparently sees nothing wrong in SCVO running a blog discussing one of “our” Rangers players and the “Celtic goalie”, while simultaneously blaming educationally successful faith schools for sectarianism. SCVO has offered a metaphorical No Surrender to resignation calls.
A brief comment for those who don’t live in Scotland…. Attitudes like this once prevailed but are harder to find these days. We are a modern, progressive, society, for the most part.
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davythelotion says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:35
can’t agree davythelotion. reason being that they are as obsessed about their club as we are about ours. And, there are also tens of thousands of them. There may well be 2 or 3 rangers teams which spring from the ashes as the money men try to get ahead of the game. but the hun are going nowhere. The will regroup, reform and eventually get a place in the SPL.
If there is a bet worth having, the bet would be that newco rangers in some form will exist in 5-10 years time.
If the same happened to us in 94. We would have reformed. There is no doubt about that. I don’t know anyone who would have changed their alliegances.
I suppose this raises the question about whether you can switch your team.
But once the hun re-emerge it doesn’t matter what they are called, where they play or what history they claim. We will know them for what they are. Huns.
Raymac
I have to slightly disagree with you re MulGrew….
I watched him a lot at Aberdeen and he was as good for them as he has been for us. I honestly think the big fella has been badly over looked for some reason. I was all for him coming back to Celtic as he is unbelievably versatile. I think he can play maybe 5 positions well. He is obviously left footed, great striker of the ball both in play and from dead ball situations. He’s not improved as much as people say… He’s been that good for a few years now…
setting free the bears says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:44
Thanks m8
That tis indeed the one.
Beautiful track.
From Tweet by Matt McGlone
matt mcglone@MattMcGlone9
Saturday’s Records front page, Whyte’s original Friday court bill has now risen to £93,000
Surely we need to look behind the screens and see what is happenning.
This is without doubt just a get Whyte out campaign by the DR. It is not designed to do anything to the club, except save it.
The DR are still peddling crap fed to them, or at least peddling crap that they’ve been told is ok to print.
Can’t we all smell the odious Murray influence in this.
The whole campaign stinks, and we are too busy celebrating their demise to really see that clearly.
DR sales have gone up, and they have allied themselves to the ancien regime.
Murray and the old board are so far excluded from any vitriol/calumny/adverse media coverage. They had their hands in the EBT trough, plus fat salaries, plus bonuses etc. On their watch, their club annually spent more than they earned, and they sold off parts of the club in a vain attempt to pretend they were a success. They put the club where it is, Whyte just walked into the crosshairs at the last moment. Where are the articles of exposure and finger pointing that MBB is enduring? They are the ones who should also be barred from being company directors, but because they portray themselves as victims, they seem to be teflon coated.
This is all part of their rehabilitation into Scottish football. Whyte is history, and we need to look beyond that, towards the campaign to overlook their misdemeanours and fraud. They will be held up as the custodians that Scottish football can trust. We have already had the great white hope of the Henry McLeish inspired SFA, Stewart Regan actually say on twitter that Scottish Footbal needs Rangers and Celtic. Publicly, on social network! He is telling us what gthey will do.
For this to happen,
1. They will have to have the big tax bill set aside or have it paid by the very people (the taxpayers like US) who are demanding that they pay up.
2. The SFA/SPL cabals will have to conduct some secret deals in dark rooms and allow them into the game at a fairly high level “to save Scottish football”.
3. The clubs will have to be persuaded to accept the devil’s deal or go under themselves.
4. Sky will threaten to pull out of the TV deal, since the terms have been materially altered by the SPL, voiding the contractual arrangements.
5. The media increase their lobby against the demise of RFC – a campaign has already started…
Murray’s troops will return in some guise or another, once the chancer that is Whyte has been deposed by the frenzied coverage against HIM that is being coached by the DR and other complicit MSM poodles.
Victims and winners are being promoted by the DR every day.
On the field we need the captains, in the dugout we need captains and in the boardroom we need captains.
Let’s just nail their hides to the wall, on the field and off the field.
But be ready for their campaign of re-instatement to gather momentum.
HH
RWE CSC
We slip and slide as we fall in love
Good night all tims
petec :)
gettinmadriftCSC
BBC4 Now
Just can’t get enough!
HH
sTICks
gallagher says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:47
Slipstreaming behind the finest.
RalphWaldoEllison-is Neil Lennon Season 2011-12 says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:47
The very reason we should get behind Why/itey and give him our support. After all, in this roofing case, it seems he was moving assets and stiffing creditors. There is no way he would try and get away with that again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
and i feel fine
HH
Can I just say.
I loved the movie
Inglorious Bastards.
Kinda reminded me of some other Inglorious Bastard types.
Please remember I speak of a movie and therefor do not break blog rules before awe yoos cretins stert yer shtuff aboot rules n bloxis n fings n at.
MWD sober as a judge drunk
tarrant says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:38
A scoop of green & a scoop of white will do me.
MWD
I see you still can’t spell. Have you checked the name of the film?
gallagher says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:51
The advert before the song was Kelly Clarkson – What Doesn’t kill you makes you STRONGER.
WOW.
How Strong have the HUNS MADE Neil Lennon gallagher?
We should thank them for their efforts…..LOL
Best female artist?
Solo, for personal memories gotta be:
Ella
(Two great holidays in New Orleans)
As a singer, it’s gotta be:
Aretha
Within a band, I would suggest this astonishing writer and singer:
Beth
But there’s so many more you could pick…
Billie
Liz
Mary
Great question, whoever posted it back. That’s given me an hour or so of great songs and singers that I haven’t heard in a while. Hope you all get to enjoy some of what I’ve posted.
Succulence
But try selling that to anyone dressed in green. We are so happy to see anyone/anything connected with that club get a kicking that we are being duped. IMHO
Spotlight should be shining on all of them, but DR is making sure what the news agenda is.
When does a fat lady sing anyway.
HH
RWE CSC
Kingoh
Yes. But that would without question pass any filter.
Testing!!!
MWD BASTERDS see what I didn’t dae there peveriously
succulence says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:44
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I just think that the world is changing so quickly that they’re behind the eight ball! ’94 was different, I genuinely believe that if they’re given the chance, they’ll walk away. Just my opinion.
Hail Hail
BTW the GEF is being hung out to dry, hell mend ‘im but…
who’s really behind the takeover?
petec
Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. (Luke 23:34)
HH
Night night!
MWD
The old ‘just testing you’ excuse.
Like it!
Don’t know if this has been posted up earlier.
Guy’s getting a few rough commentsDesmond Kane – Eurosport
RalphWaldoEllison-is Neil Lennon Season 2011-12 says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:59
I’d prefer the fat lady takes her time. With a prolonged tax case, Why/itey in charge, and SPHell, the huns are going nowhere.
We bounced back and won the double in 88 but the writing was on the wall and Souness had changed Scottish football. Ceaser came back, we signed Chris Morris, Macca, and a couple more who escape my memory (who used to shout at Rogan! McCarthy it was)…. and we won it back – and the cup too. The following year we were knocked on our arses with the 5-1 result. That was a result that resonated through our darkest days. We were favourites, we went ahead in the first minute or so and were duly hammered.
We bloodied their nose by winning the cup and denting their treble hope but we were on the ropes. They knew and so did we but we continued to hope. Martin Hayes, Cascarino, Slater,…, Biggins, Muggleton.. The last 2 sound like Lord of the Rings characters but in the lead up to the 89 cup final we “signed” “him who shall not be named”. The boost may have been enough to see us over the line that sunny day at hampden when we all got sunburned.
But we were down and almost out. we trundled along. Pat McInlay put us out of Europe in the last minute of the season, seats in the jungle.
What I’m trying to say is that we had years of “grimnes”. I don’t want a quick death for the hun with a pheonix club rising within months.
Let us impose our advantage upon them, and let’s make it last.
gallagher
We have to forgive them, it is what we do.
They Must be punished fully so they don’t sin like that again.
“petec says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:40
tarrant says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:31
Apologies, I was wrong to assume that all were West of Scotland. I just knew that David Byrne was from my neck of the woods.”
Well petec, we all make assumptions that prove to be wrong. But you don’t need to apologise to me. Not for that assumption anyway.
Here’s one you might like.
…Life…Life…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP3TTGuddjY&feature=related
we have one game
v ICT, tomorrow – that is it !
however…
4pts ahead
played 25 of 38
12 victories and its ours !!
ICT will do to start with…
linda woz sum drummer, by the way
petec
Edyoukayshun the hard way it has to be.
carrotandstickCSC
shouldn’t they acknowledge their sins or their failures before forgiveness can be granted?
They’re a long way from that.
is there no merit to the idea though that not having ‘segregated’ schools in the first place would lead to less division and less sectarianism? (less, not none)
All,
Probably posted already but the Judge’s comments today (below) go to prove it is a case of, Walter Smith out, Walter Mitty in. Oh dear what have they done! :O)
“I reject the evidence of Mr Whyte as wholly unreliable”
“It is not possible to ascertain whether he is not telling the truth or is simply unable to recollect the true position, and has convinced himself that this arrangement is something that he would not have entered into.
“Either way, his evidence is contradicted by virtually every other piece of evidence.”
‘We’re havin Party’
God bless Rod and his drummers!
sTICks
There were a few female artists posted up earlier
particularly like Lorraine Ellison
How about
The Diminutive Alice Russell
thought pawel brozek did ok the other night
looked a reasonable player, decent touch, bit of pace, sort of strong too, let’s see what happens….
can’t let Friday night go by without this, so here’s one for him
Raymac says:
11 February, 2012 at 00:23
What is not to love about Charlie – 6ft 3 sweet left foot can take devastating corners and free kicks, can play left back, centre back and left midfield. Like you, I want him to succeed. I have to say though, Kelvin Wilson in beside him seems to help out with his occassional dozy moments. He’s a big lad Charlie and often doesn’t move his body very quickly. Kelvin’s pace is useful in this regard.
HH
TLK
succulence says:
11 February, 2012 at 01:11
I know, and when I read it all like that – it still hurts.
I fear that they will wriggle off the hook, play every stinking card they can to survive enough to hold onto the core of the club they are and have been for nearly 100 years.
I am pretty certain by exposing the old board and Muuray to the type of scrutiny they deserve, that we are actually giving MBB more time in the job, to bring to the edge of the disaster they deserve. The MSM did nothing while Phil Mac and RTC did all the groundwork. When the MBB regime had screwed Sally over during the window etc, they decided that enough was enough and that Whyte had to be deposed. Ring Ring…hello is that the Daily Record?
We, as Celtic fans, are witnessing another example of the discrimination that we haave endured for years. They are being fawned over by the media, while the SFA are curiously quiet. I read BRTH’s long post earlier tonight and, among other things, he alludes to the same thing.
Captains on the field, in the dugout and in the boardroom.
HH
RWE CSC
Top corner
fecks sake are you trying to kick it off again between my mum and SFTB (see wed night)
:>)
her name is Karen not Linda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
TopCorner says:
linda woz sum drummer, by the way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Ckee7rabM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YApNirMC9gM&feature=related
In honour of our Welsh Dragons Matthews and Ledley, and to celebrate the start of the 6th Nations, can those privileged enough to watch Celtic tomorrow sing forth with this, to the tune of the chorus of the Welsh Rugby anthem, Bread of Heaven:
Pay your taxes
Pay your taxes
Pay your taxes to Your Queen
(Oh to your Queen)
Pay Your taxes to Your Queen
In the style of:
Bread of Heaven
HH
TLK