“The appeal is dismissed.” With those words at the Supreme Court in London at 9:52 this morning, Rangers tax cheating was established as fact. The charlatans who manipulated Scottish football fans were shown to be the disgrace they are.
Rangers made unlawful payments, totalling many millions of pounds, to footballers, who, by the club’s own admission in court, they would have been unable to recruit if they had to pay tax and National Insurance contributions for.
They lied to HMRC.
They also hid documents from HMRC, which only came to light during a City of London Police raid on Ibrox.
They hid documents from the SPL and SFA, failing to honestly register dozens of players.
They cheated the tax man.
They cheated the welfare state, the NHS, the police, councils, schools. They cheated the Army and other services.
The SPL’s (now called Scottish Professional Football League) Commission into these matters must now be set aside. It was conducted on the assumption that Rangers acted legally. Lord Nimmo Smith was clear that his conclusions were predicated on this point. A fresh commission is required, we cannot just allow the biggest cheats in British sporting history wander off into the distance.
The SFA has failed to call Sir David Murray to account, or the other directors of Rangers, who had explicit responsibility to ensure the club acted within the laws of the land and within the rules of football, both of which it failed to do.
Murray should be sine died. God knows, I cherish every moment Dave King controls things at Ibrox, but he was a director of Rangers with legal responsibility for its actions. They should all be censured.
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TGM
My mate Raymie, a dandy don fae a Tim family fae Glasgow, just texted me. ” Celtic, Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts supporters, need to get our collective heads together and expose these hun cheats and strip their cheated trophies. Scottish fitba needs cleansed. Stand Free!”
!!BADA BING!! on 5TH JULY 2017 2:54 PM
Imatim- There should be enough now ,to blow up the 5 Way Agreement? HH
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I totally agree my friend but you have to ask what exactly does this so called agreement actually contain and stipulate and who we’re privy to its draft and execution
TURKEYBHOY on 5TH JULY 2017 2:58 PM
OK,a bit confused here.The BBC,as usual soft soaping the Huns with “No action “guff,as its a different Company.The BBC,maintain in all their hand outs,that it is “The same club”The idiots at the governing bodies come away with the “same club”crap,so where is the argument.The same club that won the trophies by cheating,now have to have them stripped.Nothing to do with any such nonsense as companiesThey are,we keep getting told,entirely different from each other.Its the football club who gained,its the football club that must suffer.Is this correct?.
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I agree with you. But going after Sevco isn’t what this is about.
Let’s get an asterisk against those titles. That’s what matters.
I don’t often do it, but tonight I will pen a wee letter of encouragement to Our Great Club, offering my support in our joint endevours shoulder to shoulde rwith the rest of Scottish footbal to ensure that competitive integrity is upheld and that the many “wrongs” in relation to the huns cheating is addressed appropriately.
HH
DD
Im hoping all those friendships with other supporters leads to collective action.
We cannot allow this anymore. We need root and branch change.
Think of the collective power of Celtic, Aberdeen, Hibs,Hearts supporters.
We have all been shafted by the Huns.
Its now payback time:)
HH
The head Hun ought to be careful what he wishes for.
If/when the 5 way agreement gets an airing as part of any review process, I would expect its legality to be questioned and even more heads to roll.
All this ‘Celtic awaits’, and ‘keeping their powder dry’ stuff puts me in mind of this.
I think maybe I should get out more.
Had we but world enough and time,
This coyness, lady, were no crime.
We would sit down, and think which way
To walk, and pass our long love’s day.
Thou by the Indian Ganges’ side
Shouldst rubies find; I by the tide
Of Humber would complain. I would
Love you ten years before the flood,
And you should, if you please, refuse
Till the conversion of the Jews.
My vegetable love should grow
Vaster than empires and more slow;
An hundred years should go to praise
Thine eyes, and on thy forehead gaze;
Two hundred to adore each breast,
But thirty thousand to the rest;
An age at least to every part,
And the last age should show your heart.
For, lady, you deserve this state,
Nor would I love at lower rate.
But at my back I always hear
Time’s wingèd chariot hurrying near;
And yonder all before us lie
Deserts of vast eternity.
Thy beauty shall no more be found;
Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound
My echoing song; then worms shall try
That long-preserved virginity,
And your quaint honour turn to dust,
And into ashes all my lust;
The grave’s a fine and private place,
But none, I think, do there embrace.
Now therefore, while the youthful hue
Sits on thy skin like morning dew,
And while thy willing soul transpires
At every pore with instant fires,
Now let us sport us while we may,
And now, like amorous birds of prey,
Rather at once our time devour
Than languish in his slow-chapped power.
Let us roll all our strength and all
Our sweetness up into one ball,
And tear our pleasures with rough strife
Through the iron gates of life:
Thus, though we cannot make our sun
Stand still, yet we will make him run.
IMATIM WANTS JUSTICE AND THE TITLES TO BE STRIPPED FROM THE CHEATS on 5TH JULY 2017 3:01 PM
!!BADA BING!! on 5TH JULY 2017 2:54 PM
Imatim- There should be enough now ,to blow up the 5 Way Agreement? HH
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I totally agree my friend but you have to ask what exactly does this so called agreement actually contain and stipulate and who we’re privy to its draft and execution
I agree,but it could get messy for some people close to home…….HH
tonydonnelly67 on 5th July 2017 1:17 pm
Once again I fail to see why this is a CFC issue, imo, it’s every club in Scotlands issue, and every fan of these clubs too, but the usual suspects have a go at PL, and the CFC board, its in they’r DNA and can’t help themselves, and then you’ve got the C T making the bulets, me? I’m just loving last night, and today’s results, both of which have nothing to do with CFC , but it’s fun, and I’m sure CFC and the board will be having a wee laugh too. Only my opinion, (whispers) and it’s allowed, so no name calling please :))
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Around the same time that Res12 was being raised the flaws in the LNS Commission were drawn to the attention of the SPFL Board from TSFM (maybe more on that series of blogs later). Eric Reilly was the SPFL Board member from Celtic at the time and copied in.
However for the reasons you give i.e. it was an SPFL issue it was always going to be a matter of the appeal process running its course and the SPFL dealing with the consequences.
It remains so although Celtic have more than enough information as a result of that earlier information plus more since to argue for a revisit in the interests of sporting integrity not to mention restoring some semblance of honesty to the governance of Scottish Football.
With regard to Res12, now that both court cases are out of the way that ball can start rolling again, but with the benefit of a much wider understanding across the support spectrum (CSA and Affiliation) of what took place.
The universe continues to unfold as it should (although last nights result in Luxembourg was a nice wee googly).
The five way agreement died a death the day Sevco short-changed Hearts for the world class breakfasts guy.
SAINT STIVS…
Orange baskets?I don’t get it? ;)))
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Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan on 5th July 2017 2:47 pm
Auldheid
Old Lawyers Adage:
Never call for a review unless you know one is coming.
BTW – check your e-mail.
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I did now you check yours :) (about that review)
Imatim …
I haven’t looked at it in a while, but I recall a draft of the 5WA floating around some time ago , which I did look at …. a few things come to mind … the version that was available on line was not signed, or even complete …. so the final version (if this was indeed a draft copy) may be different ….
However, off the top of my head, I dont recall any provision that would preclude title stripping ( I think I would recall that…)
what I do recall is a distinction between events during the CW regime and otherwise … had the sense that they would try to make him the fall guy (which, it turns out they did)… and that the idea would be to somehow argue that, if CW is liable, somehow the Club would not be ….
Since CW was acquitted, I have been meaning to go back and look at this again … when I get around to doing so, I can let you know my thoughts, if you are interested.
On Rule Breaking and Title Stripping
As some of you may know I am also a STH at Spartans and have today been reminded of the case in 2011 when they were thrown out of the Scottish Cup retrospectively and lost out on a 3rd round tie against Partick Thistle because only one signature instead of two was used on a player’s contract. They also were fined £4,000 (suspended for 12 months) for the administrative error.
My point is surely, thanks to today’s Supreme Court landmark ruling, by using an illegal tax avoidance scheme from 2001 to 2010 (Big Tax Case) and having previously been fined for registration infringements under the DOS scheme (Wee Tax Case) should there not be a proportionate punishment to fit the crime?
According to BBC’s Chris McLaughlin ,a typical SMSM stooge, “It’s unlikely the football authorities will have much appetite to sanction another investigation …”.
What he seems to forget is that it is not their decision as the executives of the SFA and SPFL were appointed by the respective boards and are answerable to them.
In turn those boards are elected by the member clubs to represent them and are accountable to them accordingly at regular meetings where they take on board the duly voted for decisions of the members.
The SFA run the Scottish Cup while the SPFL run the Premier League and the League Cup
The current board of the SPFL (as of 20/7/16) is:
Chief Executive Neil Doncaster, SPFL Chairman Ralph Topping and independent non-executive director Karyn McCluskey:
• Ladbrokes Premiership representatives: Peter Lawwell (Celtic), Ann Budge (Heart of Midlothian) and Ian Maxwell (Partick Thistle)
• Ladbrokes Championship representatives: Leeann Dempster (Hibernian) and Eric Drysdale (Raith Rovers)
• Ladbrokes League 1 and League 2 representative: Ken Ferguson (Brechin City)
It would be down to those board members to initiate any review so we know who we all need to lobby .
TGM
He still slags me about the Dons banner at Celtic Park.
“Celtic PLC. Your silence is deafening.”
The Dons are very proactive on title stripping.
Their fanbase that is.
Well! With last nights little surprise, and today’s good news, Iv no option but to go for a treble today 4:00 @ thirsk, Donnelly’s Rainbow 6/1, wee £5 EW must win right? :))
IMATIM WANTS JUSTICE AND THE TITLES TO BE STRIPPED FROM THE CHEATS on 5TH JULY 2017 3:01 PM
!!BADA BING!! on 5TH JULY 2017 2:54 PM
Imatim- There should be enough now ,to blow up the 5 Way Agreement? HH
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IMATIM WANTS JUSTICE AND THE TITLES TO BE STRIPPED FROM THE CHEATS on 5TH JULY 2017 3:01 PM
!!BADA BING!! on 5TH JULY 2017 2:54 PM
Imatim- There should be enough now ,to blow up the 5 Way Agreement? HH
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I totally agree my friend but you have to ask what exactly does this so called agreement actually contain and stipulate and who we’re privy to its draft and execution
I agree,but it could get messy for some people close to home…….HH
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If you lie with dogs……….
Hopefully we can get the root and branch clear out that Scottish football needs on the back of this verdict.
I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think our board who are businessmen first and foremost will do/say anything much that has a detrimental effect on the money to be made by having a strong them in our league , according to Peter Lawwell it cost us approx £10M every season in lost income while they were on their ‘ journey ‘ .
Not a gravy train they want to derail IMO.
Anyway,I agree with posters who are asking for a call to arms so to speak to other clubs supporters as I think it’s only the punters that can force the necessary change .
This might be trickier than it would appear given the parochial nature of football fans at times but if there was ever a moment to put individual club/supporter interests/rivalries aside with the aim of coming together to force the creation of a fairer setup for our game, then surely this is THAT moment.
The symbolic impact of fans of various clubs all working in unison for this common cause would be impossible to ignore.
All I want is a level playing field, is that too much to ask?
HH
DD
Hopefully some kind of public meeting can be arranged.
Solidarity between supporters group could be a force to be reckoned with.
HH
saltires en sevilla on 5th July 2017 10:27 am
If ever there was an opportunity to clean Scottish football it is now. It is not just what RFC got up to under the SFA its what the SFA and SPL got up to trying to minimise the damage coming from what RFC got up to.
Far too much is now known to maintain the Save Rangers at All Cost policy adopted since 2011.
Oh and its a compulsion of mine I realise but
” One of my hobbies back then was taking cuttings from the colour supplements issued with the Evening Citizen ( was it called the pink?). Tremendous action colour photographs of the players and always available immediately after the game. ”
The Evening Citizen was the Green broadsheet Saturday evening paper and The Evening Times was the smaller (Redtop size) Pink.
MIKE IN TORONTO on 5TH JULY 2017 3:14 PM
Imatim …
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Thanks Mike I would be more than interested
TGM
A supporter collective demo at Hampden would be a good start.
Strip the cheats of their financially doped trophies or Scottish fitba dies a laughing stock.
TGM / DD, this goes way beyond the teams you both list. Have a look at the spreadsheet posted by St Stivs earlier to see the teams involved and who lost out across the full period of the EBT cheat years.
This is wider than a few top tier teams in Scotland, and supporters of every club affected should be up in arms including European clubs who failed to progress past the cheating scum.
HH
TONYDONNELLY67 on 5TH JULY 2017 3:22 PM
Well! With last nights little surprise, and today’s good news, Iv no option but to go for a treble today 4:00 @ thirsk, Donnelly’s Rainbow 6/1, wee £5 EW must win right? :))
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Have you apologised to Santa yet? <;-))
ACGR
Agreed, they have shafted everyone.
We need action.
HH
I want Ogilvie and Bryson’s heads on a stick……..for starters
Celtic,Aberdeen,Hibs,Dundee U,Hearts,surely it is not impossible for the clubs fanzines to get their heads together on this.I am sure they are all in contact,or have contacts.Joe from the CSA,must have all contacts with the other SA in Scotland.Only a massive united front will have any bearing on the numpties running our game.Its all very well bumping gums on here,but a groundswell throughout all the clubs is required.
The moment must be seized,before the SMSM start deflecting like hell.The mantra of “Title Stripping”must not be allowed to lose volume.
Imatim- The talking is nearly over,we need strong heads to step forward now.
Dbhoy on 5th July 2017 3:25 pm
Hopefully we can get the root and branch clear out that Scottish football needs on the back of this verdict.
I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think our board who are businessmen first and foremost will do/say anything much that has a detrimental effect on the money to be made by having a strong them in our league , according to Peter Lawwell it cost us approx £10M every season in lost income while they were on their ‘ journey ‘ .
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If Celtic were only dependent on income generated from domestic games that might be true but we are not.
We get a lot more from playing in Europe and with our main competitor of old struggling to play in the EL that domestic model and so thinking behind it no longer applies.
Sure Celtic will not want TRFC to disappear because of the impact that would have on other clubs whom we depend on for opposition to enable us to qualify for Europe, but all that is required is clubs are run according to sustainable income plans not dependent on UEFA money or loans.
That is what should be put in place and if it cripples TRFC for a few more seasons until they realise sustainability is in their best interests as well, I think that would be an outcome I could live with.
ACGR
Alasdair at Ross County and Jags fans I know are with us.
Tear down the Wall!
Murray just shows how sleekit he is, a matter of weeks after it was mentioned in a court of law that they where in trouble and he blames the man he sold the liquidated mob to for a £
Shameless arrogant smug Hun ** years
Genuine question as the thought of the Zombies not getting titles stripped is scandalous.
Tax expert on radio said ” other clubs will need to watch as this judgement sets a precedent”
Question is say other club receives tax bill and pays it the matter would be closed. The old rangers are going to pay even if it’s only a few pence in the pound. As HMRC would be biggest creditors.
Would that not be case closed for them as well. Can’t see every football FA removing trophies won by other clubs.
Maybe I’m reading the situation completely wrong. Can any you who are clued up explain
Thanks in advance
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 5TH JULY 2017 2:47 PM
Auldheid
Old Lawyers Adage:
Never call for a review unless you know one is coming.
……
Never ask for an enquiry unless you know the outcome
TGM / DD, here’s the link to the spreadsheet posted earlier by St Stivs that if accurate, and I’ve no reason to doubt its accuracy shows how far reaching the impact of their cheating spread throughout the game.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dhAk4K4f1aaWIZScFH9QpCXx1W8a-802o60kS3BEOwI/htmlview#gid=0
I would think every team on that list would have a view on the confirmation of cheating handed down by the supreme court today.
Statement from Celtic reminds me of Braveheart
HOLD HOLD
Again from Chris McLaughlin @ BBC Scotland
“Celtic are the only other Scottish club to have used the EBT scheme. They paid the Brazilian midfielder Juninho from a trust in 2005 but have since settled with HMRC.”
I suppose that’s one way of dragging us into this ….
ACGR
That’s astounding.
Sheer criminality.
HH