We live in a time when conspiracies are more difficult to pull off than they used to be. Information is more open, distributed, analysed with that secondary analysis distributed in a way that was not possible when most of us started our careers.
Before social media, hundreds of incredulous Spanish-speaking viewers would have exclaimed, “He didn’t say that!” at Alfredo Morales Sky Sports interview and translation, each in isolation, with only their immediate family to hear. Back then, it was easy to get away with distorting news and information. That made Celtic the easiest target in Scotland, just think back to the daily distortions placed on Fergus McCann, which went without coordinated opposition.
I have done a few translations in my time. They are never published literally [“astounded of forehead” apart] as grammar and sentence structure protocols differ, so you have to fit the translated words into acceptable prose. But, inserting “They were saying offensive and racist words” into a translation when no such accusation was expressed, is clear evidence of one or more people at Sky conspiring to slur the reputation of Celtic fans.
We both know that Sky, the corporate body, could not care less about Celtic or Scottish football. This incident will be an embarrassment to the ethical standards of the broadcaster, which I expect will be sorted out by bosses in London, who would do well to consider Kris Boyd’s comments on Leigh Griffiths “mental strength” in the current context.
It tells you more about Scotland, our past as well as our present, than it does about Sky. Celtic might control the leagues and cups, but other aspects of social, political and corporate life have deep-rooted hostilities, which they cannot hide.
You will see every dirty trick in the book used between now and May as resentment festers at the gaping chasm between unrivalled success and abject failure. What they don’t know, is that these acts will only serve to unite and strengthen Celtic.
Stand up for the Champions, as someone around here was fond of saying.
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TIMALOY29 on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 12:59 PM
Agreed, wouldn’t get our hopes up, even a Sevco team with nae bottle will still beat this Hibs team 8/9 times out of 10 I’d say
HH
BigJock67,
Thanks for that post….any chance you can answer the following:
Where do you get the IPTV firestick? On etims he used to retweet Nordman, is this a similar thing? I’m not on facebook or twitter so couldn’t explore that one further, but given your post I thought I’d ask.
Any help appreciated…
Ta.
hahahahahha and then there is a post against the independence of our land ……..
Apparently the leaders of Scottish Enlightenment never wrote anything of any importance….so Francis Hutcheson, David Hume, Adam Smith, Dugald Stewart, Thomas Reid, Robert Burns, Adam Ferguson, John Playfair, Joseph Black and James Hutton………..to name a few were raging Huns and so we need the English to rule us …
smiley it is ignorance on a biblical scale thing
Braw
Hi
Anyone mentioning IPTV can you take the conversations offline please (for obvious reasons) .
HH
TIMALOY – fingers crossed. I think Tavernier is back for them so they can rely on a Morelos dive and a Tav penalty to get them out of jail :)
On the other hand, I can’t see Morelos being 100% focused on football right now, the media storm plus marital problems might take the edge off his game.
We could be 10 pts clear tonight if the stars align . . .
Paul67
Name the only club in the history of Scottish football to have been charged and sanctioned for racism?
I can feel another burned out team bus coming on…..
NEUSTADT-BRAW on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:11 PM
Would the Scottish Enlightenment have happened without the Union?
Askin’ for a friend.
Braw, alas we do not live in enlightened times.
Celtic and Hamilton to face Scottish FA charge for not acting in ‘orderly fashion’
Lol! You couldn’t make it up!
If Hibs play the ‘park the bus’ and ride their luck, why not? Stevie Gee has put tremendous pressure on them as a team and picking up 1 point from draws is almost as good as a defeat.
Just win Celtic.
Would love to see wee Soro tonight. He’s in the squad.
Natknow
What, in the name of zeus, is that for?
NATKNOW on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:26 PM
Celtic and Hamilton to face Scottish FA charge for not acting in ‘orderly fashion’
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51387705
BIG WAVY on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:27 PM
The rammie when players surrounded the referee at the non stamping by LG.
I don’t see what good asking Sky to look at the translation will do. Its obvious the translation was provided by “media sources” and was not Sky’s translation, Sky is no friend of Celtic and no good will come of engaging with them. Better to make a statement to our own fans and leave it at that.
I expect to see Ely coming straight back in tonight, Taylor playing behind him and Christie starting in place of Ntcham and Griff back on the bench.
WOnder if Hayes did his hammy hurdling over the hoardings?
The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on 5th February 2020 12:41 pm
Maybe you never gave that enough thought, you do realise that those most critical of Celtic and all things Irish in Scotland, and those currently in charge of the current disinformation campaign are also in the main those who are most pro union?
If you don’t understand that then you’ll never know why some Celtic fans want independence.
our braw host P67 (may his days be many and full of brawness) reckons in the article we are in very very shiny light in the dark corner times…hence ….
“We live in a time when conspiracies are more difficult to pull off than they used to be. Information is more open, distributed, analysed with that secondary analysis distributed in a way that was not possible when most of us started our careers.”
you probably mean well ….
smiley Saor Alba thing
Braw
Celticbhoy72, just a normal amazon firestick preferably a 4k One.
BIG WAVY on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:27 PM
Natknow
What, in the name of zeus, is that for?
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For the “handbags” after the non-existent Leigh “incident”
Kind of stuff you see up and down the country EVERY other game.
Obviously they are huffed that the “panel” arrived at the “wrong” decision and are looking for something else.
My question – who is it that decides which incidents in a match are worthy of some further level of opaque “scrutiny” behind closed doors?
BIGBHOY – The interview is a Sky production, it is their programme. It is their responsibility to ensure it is accurate. If they believe Kris Boyd has a Masters Degree in Spanish, more fool them :)
Timmy, we’ll agree to differ.
Who will they go after when they can’t blame the English?
It would get worse IMO.
NatKnow on 5th February 2020 1:26 pm
The pushing , shoving , crowding and gesturing surrounding ‘stampgate’ is probably seen in almost every match at some point . To my knowledge , no club has ever been cited for one of these , unless anyone can correct me?
….. Forster…..
Simunovic…..Jullien……. Ajer
Forrest..Brown…McGregor…Taylor
Ntcham…Taylor
Eddy……Griff
Two Taylor’s 😣
The Gullabillies should realise Traynor has cost them millions, by creating the fake news that a Chinese team (unnamed),had bid £13 million for Fat Charlie, scaring off other teams from paying what he’s actually worth.
TIMMY7_NOTED on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:37 PM
So you form your political views by taking account of what a bunch of ignorant bigots have to say?
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:44 PM
Two Taylor’s 😣
Ken and Kenneth?
#thefastshow
ernie lynch on 5th February 2020 1:45 pm
No interest in conversing with you, thanks anyway.
!!BADA BING!! on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:44 PM
I think what’s been lost here is that Stewart was saying that Jabba was doing the huns a disservice. That he was acting in his own interests, not those of his employer/client.
Stewart wasn’t actually attacking or criticising the huns themselves.
If they weren’t so thick, and so quick to anger, they might have realised that.
DENIABHOY on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:16 PM
On the other hand, I can’t see Morelos being 100% focused on football right now, the media storm plus marital problems might take the edge off his game.
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Denia,
Alfredo doesn’t know about the media storm, he doesn’t speak English.
Probably still doesn’t know his wife is on to him.😀
The Onlooker
BIGBHOY on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:35 PM
I don’t see what good asking Sky to look at the translation will do. Its obvious the translation was provided by “media sources” and was not Sky’s translation, Sky is no friend of Celtic and no good will come of engaging with them. Better to make a statement to our own fans and leave it at that.
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Fair point, but….
Who is it that is ultimately responsible for what is broadcast on Sky TV?
Is it :
a) A random Spanish translator
b) A football agent
c) a PR “guru”
d) Sky TV
?
The Onlooker – 🤣🤣🤣
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:41 PM
Seems quite common.
https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/
GM,
You of course are welcome to have any opinion you want and support anything you want, you cannot however conflate hatred of Celtic with the independence movement whilst using evidence of that hatred coming from unionist sources. Its just totally unfair and misleading, we should be pointing our cannons at the source of the attack.
Have a good day.
TIMMY7_NOTED on 5TH FEBRUARY 2020 1:46 PM
well written….it is amazing when “the fat Sevco PR man is under attack this poster comes out from under his rock….
St John Doyle salutes you…and my good self auch…
smiley lest we forget thing
Braw
BIG JOCK67
Might be worth pointing to a link for the system you mentioned.