Channel 4’s Alex Thomson’s source at the SPL yesterday confirmed that the league will not proceed with their hearing into Rangers illegal registration of players until Sevco agrees to be bound by its findings. This is curious as Item 12 (Sanctions) from the SFA’s ‘List of items required to accompany application for transfer of full membership’ from Rangers to Sevco, an application which Sevco have already made, obliged Sevco to agreed to be bound by these findings.
The relevant part of the transfer application reads:
“Confirmation that Sevco will accept such sanctions as are proposed by the Scottish FA in relation to current proceedings.
Confirmation re EBT sanction position at SPL level and subsequent appeal to Scottish FA.
Confirmation that Sevco will accept responsibility for any breach of the Articles etc by Oldco which has not so far come to light.”
If Sevco have not accepted the terms of the SFA membership application there seems little point putting Scottish Football League clubs through such dramas this week. An alternative explanation is that Sevco have completed their application in full but the SPL have no plausible excuse for delaying tier investigation into illegal registration of players, so have used an implausible excuse.
Neither explanation is tenable. Things are not going to plan for the national bodies.
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Paul67
Sick of their cheating ways now. I wonder what the formation will be tonight?
HH
Why would the SPL place sanctions on Sevco? They are not a member of the league. The investigation should focus on the historical misdeeds of RFC regarding EBTs etc and look at removal of titles and so on. Everything else should be handed over to the SFA.
Sevco are not in the SPL – When will they realise?
Gordon_J
I don’t think there is any suggestion that the registrations have been transferred to Sevco. For this to take place, excuse the FIFA statutes:
Players may only be registered – subject to the exception provided for
in article 6 paragraph 1 – upon submission of a valid application from
the club to the relevant association during a registration period.
Clearly this hasn’t happened. Sevco are claiming (in this instance) that they are the same club as Rangers FC (in Administration) and as such the players are currently registered to them. Obviously this claim is at odds with reality given that Sevco are telling HMRC, Ticketus and all the other creditors that they aren’t the same club as Rangers, and the SPL as a body have also reached the same conclusion in refusing them membership.
Ah well. Never fear, they welcome the chase.
Ye see, the thing aboot Cellic & rb’s that gets oan ma wick is this…How can a rb not simply be an rb ?
Don’t look fir the rb to be jinky and Danny rolled inti wan.
Simples :o)))
This sustained period of uncertainty is damaging Scottish football. A large proportion of the blame, lies with Regan and Doncaster.
I just want to check my understanding of the state of play. The SFL proposal to crowbar Rangers into the First Division, without a vote for the “good of Scottish football”, does this proposal need to be voted in by the SFL clubs? So they will essentially be having a vote not to have vote???!!!
The more I read and the longer this goes on Doncaster and regan remind me of one o my weans trying to find any excuse to prolong their trek tae bed when they wur wee
But their excuses of ” Ahm still finishing my buscuit”
“10 minutes more please da”
and ” can ah see the end of my telly program”
carry more intellectual weight than any of doncasters or reagans diatribe
I wish UEFA/FIFA or anyone who can would just deliver the final blow to the ex Govan football team and let the rest of the tax paying citizens get on with looking forward to watching fair and competitive fitba for the first time in generations
Hail Hail
RaRaRasputin,
Good fun, isn’t it?
The players can’t be registered to Sevco – it’s not a member of the SFA!
A wee bit more on Paul Telfer. His biggest problem for me, was that his passes put the receiver under a lot of pressure. Repeatedly he gave the ball to the wrong guy, or made a bad pass, so the receiving player ended up losing the ball. This happened a lot.
However – he was exceptionally fit – even as the oldest player, WGS said he was one of the fittest guys in the squad. This had an effect on the squad, as Strachan’s reputation for very tough training (particuarly pre-season) took a bit of getting used to apparently. with a guy like Telfer involved, he led by example in terms of training/fitness etc. This IMO helped to pull up standards of fitness and athleticism across the whole group. I feel a guy like that adds a lot of value to the squad overall.
I read Pro/Rel 9.2 as being with regards to prohibition of promotion on sporting merit, i.e. you might finish top of Div 1, but if you’re club is a complete basket case with regards the licensing then
if you are Sevco we’ll give you a collect £200 and free passpromotion may be withheld.Falkirk failed the SPL’s licensing criteria and were denied promotion a number of years back. If it was simply the case that ‘promotion on sporting merit’ can be set aside in the manner that STVGrant implies, then I look forward to any number of clubs applying for SPL membership sometime soon, like Queens Park, who play in an Elite Class Stadium and must be financially sound, have any number of years accounts etc.
In fact, I’d say that Sevco absolutely fails 9.2 on account of well, no accounts.
*your
Billy’s Bhoy on 10 July, 2012 at 11:20 said:
Nice! Not even noon yet and a Charlatans pun! (thumbs up!)
Just reading that the pre-season friendly between Dundee & Dundee Utd is expecting a crowd of 8500. I would love the fans of the other SPL clubs to show up in force this season and blow the doom & gloom predictions right out the water.
It would also be great to show the bares they are not needed or wanted.
Rocket Man on 10 July, 2012 at 11:37 said:
Billy’s Bhoy on 10 July, 2012 at 11:20 said:
Nice! Not even noon yet and a Charlatans pun! (thumbs up!)
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Regan and Doncaster been Tellin Stories
Celtic fan to me in real life ” You’d like to think that if we were in the same position the SFA/SPL would make the same allowances for us “
I believe all the negative posts Re – Paul Telfer are from the Strachan haters,
they’ve just found a new stick to hit him with .
God bless WGS :o)
Are we giving them enough Indian Rope to hang themselves with?
LuxCelt on 10 July, 2012 at 11:35 said:
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The understanding PT had with Naka was sorely missing in, Naka’s last couple of seasons imo.
Off the top of my head I can only recall, a fk at Love street that kicked off a LL storm of protest and, an absolute hundinger of a strike v’s TFOD at CP in the run-up to TB thursday.
Rangers have swooped to add Neil Doncaster and Stewart Regan to their squad. Manager Ally McCoist said ” They will join Campbell Ogilvie in attack and I am confident these three will get us back to the top where we belong”
bournesouprecipe on 10 July, 2012 at 11:39 said:
Celtic fan to me in real life ” You’d like to think that if we were in the same position the SFA/SPL would make the same allowances for us “
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Was it one of the gazebo crew?
Also, note that the statute states:
In addition…they may be subject to, as in, a club needs to pass both clauses
as opposed to stating:
Alternatively…, as in, a club needs to pass one clause or the other
orcsclutchingatstrawsCSC
voguepunter on 10 July, 2012 at 11:39 said:
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Please leave me out of the negative posts about Paul Telfer brigade.
The point I’m trying to make is that, PT was one of our unsung heroes. imo.
Having said that….WGS was an erse :o)))
Rocket Man on 10 July, 2012 at 11:40 said:
Are we giving them enough Indian Rope to hang themselves with?
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I dunno, a man needs to be told
The meeting will break down with no agreement no vote passed, and end in total chaos.
They’ll meet again, and again for the next coming weeks, by which time Sevco might have a Div 3 spot they are unable to fulfil because they’ve no budget, and no players.
Glass Brimming Over CSC
Off oot.
Have a ghood day Timland.
God Bless
Hail Hail
Regan & Doncaster do a duet:
“I Never Want an Easy Life If Me and He Were Ever to Get There”
KevJungle – Murdo.. 25yds out…10 men Championees! on 10 July, 2012 at 11:44 said:
He speaks highly of you to.
VP
No, way since I nearly slapped him, but instead dropped my eyes, ended the conversation, and left him talking to himself.
An armchair supporter who hasn’t paid to see Celtic since he was in the ole Jungle, sees every kick via Sky.
We all met them CSC
enmac – the SFA are under the illusion Green is serious about running New Huns for several years as a serious owner of a football club. The SFA see a financial opportunity in that they will accept a bribe in the form of ‘sanctions’ to get New Huns in a higher Division.
IMO Green will use the sanctions or entering as Div3 as a reason not to field a football team season 12-13.
Good morning CHAMPIONS
I see sevco’s first game will be against Albion Rovers on 27th July at murray park behind closed doors.
Weefra HH
O.K., I’ll admit to being a Strachan begrudger [never hater] and PT to me seemed to some up the difference between WGS and MON; the blessed Martin probably wasn’t so bothered about what you did in training, as long as you performed on Saturday.
When they were both at Southampton the perception was that WGS gave PT a game because ‘ he was good at running about in training’.
WGS to his credit was not given the funds to spend on players that his predecessor was, and he did choose to spend some of that money on a runner, rather than a footballer.
some up =sum up!
Rovers still calling them ‘ragers”. Shocking.
Weefra HH
Allegedly ole Voguepunter once took six Tims balanced on the back of his Raleigh Chopper to a Celtic semi final at Hampden.
Celtic got beat and he made them all walk home.
Sorry, make that 21st July.
Weefra HH
‘murray park behind closed doors.’
-closed or locked?
Can a registered member of an FA play a team that isn’t registered anywhere?
Weefra
Thus commences 2012-13, the Chinese year of globe-trotting glamour friendlies.
I’m tired of Sevco Scotland, The SFA, The SFL The SPL, Celtic play their first game of season 2012/13 tonight, and against decent opposition in a Bundesliga side. Pre seasons are not important per se but with the Champions League being our insurance policy against the possible financial mess in our domestic game we must be at full speed by the end of July what may have been meaningless in previous years has a new importance this season
If the players are in good nick especially Kris C then we will have a real cutting edge that just might see us succeed through the CL qualifiers
Enough of the bullshit politics of scottish football, lets get on with what really matters
Ming