Sticking it to the man, cautionary Swedish tales

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Absolutely delighted for St Johnstone, who recorded one of the finest aggregate results by a Scottish club in European football in the last 30 years.  My brother was speaking to a Saints player this week, who told him the successful strategy and drive came from chairman, Steve Brown, a fact which Hibernian would do well to ponder today.

Malmo’s 0-7 victory at Easter Road yesterday was chastening ahead of our game against fellow Swedes, Elfsborg on Wednesday.  Celtic are in a remarkably strong position now, having produced excellent on and off-field results for the first time in the modern era, but those seven goals last night (not to mention the multitudes we shipped preseason) are a cautionary tale.  It’s also worth remembering that Rangers decline into liquidation was precipitated by Champions League elimination at the hands of Swedish opposition two years ago (“Larsson has scored”).  Wednesday presents a huge challenge.

As soon as I heard the stadium announcement on Tuesday I knew there was trouble in store from Uefa.  The second pyro punishment will lead to a heavier fine.  Celtic’s statement yesterday advised of matters of concern to Glasgow City Council Safety Advisory Group, who issue stadium safety licence, regarding a whole range of issues (overcrowding, lateral movement, moshing, body surfing).  What to say about 131 broken seats?  Ouch.

The club and Green Brigade (whose members occupy only a part of section 111) have met and we carry on as normal for now.  Question is, can either control everyone in the section?  I hope so but it’s a big ask. All it takes is one off-message person keen to ‘stick it to the man’, and there’s a long season ahead.  Place your bets, folks.

Our thoughts are with Paul Lennon and the Thai Tims after the news that one of the boys who sang on the Celtic videos died in a road accident while another is critically ill.
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  1. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/

     

    14:06 on

     

    27 July, 2013

     

    Confession time.

     

     

    I let 3 rockets off at the Racing Club game at Hampden. And used a big screw tap for a launch pad.

     

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    For the young uns,please explain ‘screwtap’.hh

  2. BT sorry I missed it mate sounds like a great night. Stuck doing son’s flitting. Now having to keep the Mrs sweet by moving rooms around and painting. I really really hate moving furniture it drives me nuts cause you know the first, second and third place that your beloved wants it is never right, then she decides that the first place was the right place. RAGING.

     

     

    A stor mo chroi

     

     

    great reads through the night. only the negative ever gets reported in this shitty little place.

     

     

    KTF

     

     

    HH

  3. voguepunter

     

     

    Screwtaps, whit the opposing fans launched at you and yer Da’s heid whilst standing on the terraces of the late 60’s and 70’s!!

  4. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Voguepunter always up wi the kids,man!

     

     

    FWIW,a screwtap was a missile filled with an undrinkable brew fae hell.

  5. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Kano 1000 on

    Mighty Tim

     

     

    In Milngavie you are not too far away from me!

     

     

    Like you I can’t get there today either — doing the Ikea challenge though almost finished.

     

     

    You can always go down the Talbot later! ;-0)

  6. Screwtaps?

     

     

    Our own fans were often more of a danger to us in the 60s and 70s than the visiting ones- apart from those of a now deid club of course!

     

     

    HH!!

  7. The Intelligent Wans… are the Wans. Who BACK the Board.

     

     

    and

     

     

    the

     

     

    No so Intelligent Wans.. Well….

     

     

    DON’T BACK the Board.

     

     

    Kojo, How would you rate the intelligence of those who back the Board when they believe the Board make a wise move and oppose the Board when they believe the Board are making a mistake. Or in your world is everything Black & White.

  8. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    vogue

     

     

     

    You screwed the tap on and aff. More aff than on btw. Wernt much in it after it was past around abt 6 people. Germs?? The buckie and Scot Mac and other fortified wines killed them.

  9. First one up on line ‘Princess Noor’ 25-1 .Oh sweet Jesus please can I have some ,I promise to be goodish.

  10. Celtic team

     

     

    Nice yin,Neil

     

     

    Guys,Ah am fair Chuffed the Young Herron is getting a Start.

     

     

    This Guy is a Very Valuable Property..

     

     

    He wull Dae Fine,the Night..

     

     

     

    A wee bit disappointed as the why..

     

     

    NEIL is Ignoring.. the Obvious Talents of

     

     

    PAUL GEORGE..

     

     

    This kid is the Real,Real Deal!

     

     

    He is the Best of the Best of the Youngsters..

     

     

    and that Folks.. Is Saying A Mooful!

     

     

    Neil.. Why ur ye no gien Paul a wee Shot at the Peerie?

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still Laughin

  11. Joe Fillipi – well put. The ‘founder’ of the church would, in my opinion, have some serious misgivings about the institution which has developed since. I still turn up on a Sunday but I can tell you I find it a struggle sometimes – not just because I often feel let down by the heirarchy, more often because of my own doubts.

     

     

    I think there is a place for great architecture and beautiful artwork and I think we as humans need those things in our lives, whether they be religious works or otherwise. In Religion these things serve as windows to the other if they are doing their job – sometimes they can come across as nothing more than statements of power unfortunately – when that happens it is time to discard them or use them in a more powerful way, for example selling some of them to raise money for the poor would be a statement of intent. This is not helpful and I think a Church taking an honest look at itself and it’s mission would start, as you imply, but taking stock of the ‘Bishops Palaces’ and the large parochial houses.

     

     

    However I fear the church is too much in the grip of people who are too ‘fiscally’ attuned.

  12. The Quiet Man on

    BRHT, great post as always……but when looking at the banks, we cant overlook Project Hornet or forget about Charlotte 18.

     

    Pandora’s box anyone?

  13. Is the Fraser Departure.. a Loat Closer than Ah predicted?

     

     

     

    Ah expected him tae Heid fur the Tall and Uncut.. roon aboot. Christmas.

     

     

    Hmmmmmmmm..

     

     

    Like Ah told ye.. Last year..

     

     

     

    Garry, is an Ambitious Fellah…. He so much wants tar represent his Country.. It Hoits!

     

     

    And ,noo he has Admitted that that wize the Prime Reason…NO THE MONEY.. (Huh!)

     

    as tae why he left the Celtic.

     

     

    Look..

     

     

    Forster , Pines, fur the England Joisey..a Loat Mair that Gary..

     

    and that is Saying a Hellava Loat.. believe me!

     

     

    So

     

     

    Ye know where Ah am Going wi this?

     

     

    Right oan..

     

     

    Forster,is Next fur Shaving..

     

     

    anyway..

     

     

    Ah always fancied . Young Fasan.. He is an Italian kid..and He is a Great Prospect..

     

     

    Best Young Goalie we hiv hid coming up.. since.. well..

     

     

    Ye goat Me!

     

     

    Ah wid like Neil tae gie Young Leonardo a Shot.. wan of these fine days..

     

     

    Who Knows..? We may hiv anither Good Goalie .. in oor Locker.

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still Laughin’

  14. Mike in Toronto on

    For those of you s****ing on NA for his opinions (props to WITS for recognizing that the debate shouldn’t be personal )…. something to think about….

     

     

    We (at least I know I do) refer to our defunct former competitors as Sevco…. and claim that they lost their tradition when they went into liquidiation. Why? Because, they were INCORPORATED, and that CORPORATION died.

     

     

    Now… who else is a CORPORATION? Oh, yes … CELTIC PLC.

     

     

    A corporation is, by law, deemed to be a person. However, by custom, and by law, a corporation is required to maximize its profit.

     

     

    Some, like the Canadian law professor, Joel Bakan, who has studied this issue, and published the book called “the Corporation, have asked what impact this has on the operation of the corporations and their role in society. As a ‘person’ he applied a medical/psychiatric analysis of corporations, and, in a nutshell, concluded that corporations suffer from a severe anti-social personality disorder – as evidenced by their lack of concern about anything (incuding the harm that they do) other than their continual grasping for profit.

     

     

     

    What implication does this have for Celtic?

     

     

    On a practical level, as someone who lives in Toronto, the home of the famous Maple Leaf hockey club… the dangers are obvious. Although one of the strongest supported hockey clubs in the world (stadium sold out for something like 50 years in a row!), they have not won anything since 1967. Why?

     

     

    The Leafs were owned by Harold Ballard – a David Murray like character who ripped off the fans and club for years …. why? because, like Sevco, the fans here refused to consider the possibilities or question things, but year after year, bought season tickets. Then, the team was bought by a big corporation, who got a new stadium, largely paid for by tax payers…. and the club is making money for its big corporate owners…. but still no trophies. Why? Because the people that own it (it used to be the Teacher’s Pension Fund) see it as a CORPORATION…. a way to make a profit…. the idea is to spend as little as possible to make as much as possible; the aim is not to win trophies (unless that can be shown to boost the bottom line, of course).

     

     

     

    As I have said before, Celtic is, but is not only, a PLC. Those that see Celtic as a PLC are constrained by a certain languagae and ethos, which is largely contrary to those who see Celtic as a community and trust.

     

     

    In short, it is like each side is speaking a language that the other doesn’t speak; as such, it is no surprise that there is much frustration and disagreement. Each side feels like the other isn’t hearing (which is probably true), but also that the other side is not even listening (which should never happen).

     

     

    Unless and until there is a discussion about who and what Celtic is, and an effort to understand the other’s view (and language) these fights will only become more frequent, louder and more antagonistic.

     

     

    I think much of what neg anon says makes sense. As fans of Celtic, we have always had to question authority in the SFA/SPL…. all NA is saying is dont give up that right/responsibility – even (or especially) towards our own club…. It is the old saying, ‘the price of freedom is eternal vigilance’

     

     

    We saw with Fergus what can happen when the average fan is aware and engaged…. and we have seen from Govan what can happen when fans pretend the emperor is wearing clothes….. I am not saying that PL and co, are like Murray and his cronies… but, the goal of a PLC is to maximize profits (for itself and its shareholders) … while DM was illegaly it seems ripping off the company to maximize profits for himself. However, the aim of both was the same …. to maximize profits….

     

     

    So, while NegAnon sometimes loses people with his style of argument, which can be a bit aggressive… clearly his heart is in the right place…. and he, like Canamalar, are asking questions that are important in this age of domination by PLC’s.

     

     

    The rights he is trying to protect are not just his…. they belong to all of us.

     

     

    In a funny way, while many of the so called ‘right wing’ element on here are dismissing NA, he is actually the one trying to assert individual rights …..

     

     

    So, do him (and yourselves) a favour, and try to listen to his points, rather than only the way he expresses them….

     

     

    I am not saying anyone has to agree with him (or with me)… but try to listen, and try to hear, and if you dont agree…. disagree (with vigour…. but with civility).

     

     

    That is what Celtic is about. Of late, this blog seems to be forgetting what the ethos of Celtic is (football, charity, tolerance…. to name a few). It would nice to see more of that on a Celtic blog.

     

     

    Hail hail

  15. Robert hello.The church selling the Vatican art won’t solve the complicated and tragic issue of poverty. It would look good but wouldn’t cure this horror. Men sin. We have poverty. Utopia isn’t possible on this earth. Communists believed that to be possible. As a result they failed abd wrecked lives. I would value a response from you to hear your thoughts. Hail hail.