Absolutely delighted for St Johnstone, who recorded one of the finest aggregate results by a Scottish club in European football in the last 30 years. My brother was speaking to a Saints player this week, who told him the successful strategy and drive came from chairman, Steve Brown, a fact which Hibernian would do well to ponder today.
Malmo’s 0-7 victory at Easter Road yesterday was chastening ahead of our game against fellow Swedes, Elfsborg on Wednesday. Celtic are in a remarkably strong position now, having produced excellent on and off-field results for the first time in the modern era, but those seven goals last night (not to mention the multitudes we shipped preseason) are a cautionary tale. It’s also worth remembering that Rangers decline into liquidation was precipitated by Champions League elimination at the hands of Swedish opposition two years ago (“Larsson has scored”). Wednesday presents a huge challenge.
As soon as I heard the stadium announcement on Tuesday I knew there was trouble in store from Uefa. The second pyro punishment will lead to a heavier fine. Celtic’s statement yesterday advised of matters of concern to Glasgow City Council Safety Advisory Group, who issue stadium safety licence, regarding a whole range of issues (overcrowding, lateral movement, moshing, body surfing). What to say about 131 broken seats? Ouch.
The club and Green Brigade (whose members occupy only a part of section 111) have met and we carry on as normal for now. Question is, can either control everyone in the section? I hope so but it’s a big ask. All it takes is one off-message person keen to ‘stick it to the man’, and there’s a long season ahead. Place your bets, folks.
Our thoughts are with Paul Lennon and the Thai Tims after the news that one of the boys who sang on the Celtic videos died in a road accident while another is critically ill.
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Morning all.
Today’s game not listed anywhere.
Ach, it’s only a meaningless friendly anyway!
Bring on the Elfs.
We signed anyone else yet?
HH!!
“we signed anyone else yet?”
Nope tallybhoy.
And we won’t so long as we keep turning these top drawer players on low wages down.
morning cqn
nice to here Lenny is trying to get a striker or two in soon,he mentioned Rudnevs being a distant one,Khelifa as an optionand that he was in for Doyle in January,but also says there is one who hasnt been mentioned?hmmmm
also that there were bids in for some of our players Sammy in particular but wants to build on the core of Sammy.Ledley.Broonie \°/ and Commons sounds good to me in Lenny i trust h.h
Sydney
“We have freed up about 60k a week in wages after all the players have gone”
That’s awfy nice of the 3 new players playing for free.
oh and thank God im home ..poor internet in Alness
Looks like Matthews, Mulgrew & Ledley will be getting a run out today. I would imagine no one who started on Tuesday will start today.
Zaluska
Matthews Irvine Mouyokolo Mulgrew
McGregor Ledley Rogic
McGeouch Balde Watt
Pedro has known for at least 6 month Vic and Hoops would leave. I wouldn’t be surprised if Fraser Forster was sold if we don’t make the CL. We need a striker or we can forget Europe. Not to have one in by now is a shambles. Lenny is operating with one hand tied behind his back. Nobody is asking to spend the 40 mil.
We have wasted money on Rasmussen, Bangura, Murphy. ( 2 + 2 + 1 ) when we would have been better buying one striker. Buys like Henrik don’t happen too often.
Pedro has gambled with our CL qualification and is probably thinking who else can he sell as much as he swithers about who to buy. Its a performance reminiscent off the old board and as someone highlighted earlier he down it in Lennys first season.
Pedro get the finger out before the season is a SPL chore!!
Kayal, you are possibly right.
I canny stand friendlies but my lack of footy over the last wee while means I’ll be there today ;)
I’d rather see non first team players giving plenty of effort rather than first teamers giving 50% in these games.
i dont know if he will be browsing or if anyone else can help,,,,,tom mcglaughlan are you from baillieston?
lionroars67
07:46 on 27 July, 2013
overseasbhoy
07:33 on
27 July, 2013
What is a moderate spend ?
LIVING WITHIN YOUR MEANS.
What does a moderate spend get you in terms of players ?
THE LAST 16 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE LAST YEAR.
Will a moderate spend give any sort of a guarantee of success ?
NO, BUT NEITHER DOES A LARGE SPEND.
por cierto
Por cierto
What about nil spend parsimony
Ernie:
May I refer you back to my post at 05:13 I do not condone the abuse of anybody by anybody. When was the last time you read anything on here about the abuse of children by Jews, by Muslims, by Protestants? Do you think it is only Catholic priests that commit these heinous acts? Where is the balance or is it only crimes by Catholics that are allowed air time on here?
I could’ve posted dozens upon dozens of verifiable crimes perpetrated against children by clergy of faiths other than the Catholic faith. Had I done that I would be happy to accept the accusation of ‘deflection’. However, I didn’t do that, instead I chose to highlight just a fraction of the good that has been done in recent history by members of the Catholic Church.
We are a broad church, united in support of Celtic.
Genuine differences of opinion are encouraged and welcome – it’s what continues to make this publication the go-to source for information, debate and entertainment for all things Celtica.
..to coin a phrase tho’…………..
…modren curious pop-up argumentative ppc nay-sayers and faux doom-laden cqn bashers……………..are rubbish
……….and entirely predictable.
Paid to walk amongst us, they hate this Dear Green Place and support the objectives of our enemy.
Their first objective is to denigrate this site and foment disharmony – to undermine it’s position and encourage hasty concocted obits for its downfall.
Jackanory.
HHH.
g69
I’m fairly sure he’s from Hamilton.
latchford
08:42 on 27 July, 2013
Whilst I would agree with you that we appear to be gambling with CL qualification by letting Hooper go and not having replacement already lined up, maybe the player the manager wants isn’t available just now, or, as seems to be the case with Rudinev, doesn’t appear to want to come. No point in signing someone for the sake of it. That’s when you get a Bangura, Miku, Lassad, Brozek.
Manager seems quite confident that at least one striker will be in by Tuesday deadline, possibly two (though only one can play in this round of CL).
Victor replacement I am less worried about. I’d rather use any money on a creative attacking midfielder. We have a collection of ‘sitting’ midfielders and defenders who play in midfield so a direct replacement isn’t as much a priority, IMO, as someone more attacking.
Ernie:
I meant to add onto that about how much the crimes against children by ministers from other denominations are so effectively covered up, or glossed over, as opposed how diligently crimes by Catholic clergy are reported.
bankiebhoy1
If you are coming Stateside for a visit soon…
Be a China and bring some of that Irish Breakfast Tea you are supping…
BillHicks CSC
PFAyr
Spending is in relation to where you are. We are in the SPFL and as such have to cut our cloth accordingly. We have 3 qualifiers this year for CL, so no guarantee of any income from that competition this year and for future years. The only guaranteed income we have is from TV rights for this year and the current sponsorship deals. We have spent £5m so far approx. Not a lot but an absolute fortune compared to the league we are playing in. If we spend more on one or two players on 3-4 year contracts at wages that all but eat up our revenue and do not qualify for CL in any of those years then we go backwards not forwards, having a defined wage structure allows the club to plan ahead for every and any eventuality.
Bankiebhoy
Whereas I’m just a weel kent malcontent ..:-))
PJ –
;)
timely intervention – out your way 6-16th August. Would love to meet up, I’ve a different email addy, will advise P67 to supply that to you and hopefully we’ll meet up.
Planning to spend some time in Cape May again but will be in the City at some point.
…the tea’s on me btw!
Cheers
HH
Pfayr
“What about nil spend parsimony”
I think you’ll struggle to name any clubs who use that model.
Por cierto
My greatest concern is not buying players but selling players without replacing them
I am very mindful of financial probity …however we have made a fortune from last years CL adding the sale cash …we could have afforded a better effort in the transfer market
We have handicapped ourselves from qualifying for the main prize …
PF
– You know what I’m talking about mate………………
We all have different opinions on everything, I’m still trying to get an opinion on football ffs – I wish I had an insight.
No, it’s the sleekit interlopers who all too quickly shake their heid gravely all the while stickin’ it to CQN, Celtic and our community –
CQN is an opinion-former and will attract those whose interests are our demise.
……………and anyway, you’ve never changed your tune from Day 1, ya curmudgeonly git!
;)))
HH!
PFayr
Point taken.
We may yet bring some one in, although I agree it’s getting late por cierto.
Perhaps we have been looking at signing a decent proven striker for a reasonable outlay but no one of any worth is willing to come to Scotland hence our scrambling about the bargain basement of football transfer. 2 – 2.5 million for a player for a team with ambitions of regular participation in the CL group stage ambitions is bargain basement shopping. But that is where we are now and we are not in a position to change that. Players we would like to see at CP just are not willing to play in Scotland, even if we could afford them. Only ambitious unknowns who see Celtic as route to the riches of the EPL and championship are interested in signing.
A couple of seasons ago we could attract the likes of KC and JL could we even do that now? Both of these ghuys are decent level footballers but would either of them have made MO’Ns starting 11? We are worried that we have lost a 20+ goal a season striker – again I think he would have struggled to get a place on the bench with Henke, Sutton, young Maloney and Hatrson in the squad.
bankiebhoy
Superb…In a Tetley Kind of Way
Look forward to it….
Geordie
We’re trying hard to achieve ….at present we’re in huge negative spend
We all know what our custodians are up to …qualify for the CL and they’re geniuses …fail and the backlash could be severe
Spending all the incoming money is fantasy football stuff.A couple of £2.5-3 mil signings should have been made pre- season.A fellow poster called me naive for buying guys before we sell (which is his right),i call it forward thinking as VW & Hooper were IMO always leaving.What we have succeeded in doing is we have boxed ourselves into a panic transfer window,mainly due to the early CLQ’s.Agents will be well aware of this too.I doubt anyone will come in before Wednesday.
Kevjungle
If you want to meet up I’ll explain to you why I see things differently from you.
You might get an education.
TheoriginalSaidiesbhoy,,,,thanks, I was puting 2 and 2 together and got 5,,,that’s the biddies for u,,cheers!
Por. But what guarentees failure is zero new 1st eleven players
Everyone. Take a step back and ask yourself a question
If we had not banked 15m from players sales would that have put our club at risk?
On the same thought if we bought a 10m player on 3 million pound of wages after banking our 15m. Does that put our club at risk ?
PF
Cheers.
A Yankee – aye – you and me both.
Well….as that weird fella who used to peek in folks hooses used to say on tv “, I’ve deliberated, cogitated and digested” and her are my losers for today.
Queen Catrine @6/1 in the 2 05. Simply hoping the fav does not quite get the 6f whereas queen Catrine has already won at 6f and ran in a group 2 over 6f.
Noble deed @ 2/1 in the 2 30. Hammered nurpur at pontefract on 1 st July. Don’t see any better form in the race.
Ghasbah at 7/4 in the 3 20. Good win last week at Leicester. Looks very progressive.
Jontleman at 11/8 in 6 25. Seems to run every 10 days or so but in good nick and looks like he could get his 4 th career win tonight.
£1 Yankee means you could have won £352 :-)
To get a striker the equal of Gary Hooper, which should be our starting point when searching, who can be developed over the next couple of years into a strike better than Gary Hooper, will cost more than £3m, probably a lot more.
£2m-2.5m gets you an Amido Balde, raw, work in progress but with loads of potential but far from the finished article and definitely not someone who will come in and become our first choice goalscorer immediately.
If we won’t spend then we won’t get what we need and what the support are looking for.
Latchford:
I suspect that there are as Neil said a long list of targets but the club wouldn’t gamble on the Hooper end game by purchasing before now.
I’m not so worried about the amount of money, though I totally agree that 3 to 4 million on a striker who fits the bill is a better bet than 1 to 2 million on a striker you hope will ‘kick on’.
My principle concern is stats. We need a goal scorer and, whilst Balde was signed to give us something different, that probably won’t include 25 goals a season. I’ve no problem spending low if the player has some history of better than 1 goal in 3 games, I’m frankly petrified when we’re linked with players with an even less impressive ratio.
StatsisallCSC
…pfayr.
Oh I hear you my man. Believe it or not I don’t disagree with all you say….
New signings are no guarantee to eliminate failure and they are certainly harder to acquire than some of the championship manager managers on here think.
That said, as I said last night, I feel we are 3 players shy of a right good bunch. And 1 of those signings MINIMUM should be first pick. Not project.
And we have to ask the question is why is Neil not being given the full income from transfers , when out club is not in a poor position financially
Morning from a warm verdant Chilterns…
Haven’t been on for a wee while,in fact hav even been remiss wit my lurking duties.
So well done to Neil and the bhoys on a job well done.
Congratulations to St Johnstone putting a wee bit of pride back in the Scottish game.
The Hibees what can I say,agree with Paul we can’t really pour scorn, like the aul Bavarian Torfest, Malmo probably wanted it more than the boys fro Leith!
Now for BSR and et al.
*Shipping SuperHooper in January for Megabucks and getting a Stiker bedded in would have been better for the Juve tie and better for the Elfsborg Encounter.
Jist sayng like.
*StatingtheobviousCSC
Bada bing
No panic ..they know what they’re doing
We’ve seen it all before …..hedging bets for CL qualification …then guddling about in the detritus of the transfer market looking for a bargain ….and more often than not running out of time ….deliberately or otherwise