Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.
If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense. You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.
Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability. This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.
Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses. It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.
The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.
Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox
Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer. He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.
26 miles is a long way to run. You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.
Good luck, Tommy.
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This is he picture displayed when Cologne scored to put them two to nil up. The Deadclub scored with a “taken early” free kick.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8c/Christ_of_Saint_John_of_the_Cross.jpg/300px-Christ_of_Saint_John_of_the_Cross.jpg
Strange how it turned out for Greig, their manager at the time, the following year. The 4-2 game was too much for them and they finished 5th the following year.
Seen a comment or two about the Black and white pictures………….maybe more to do with the TV set you had at the time :-)
When I was looking to confirm the above, came across this evidence of “same clubness” on FF:
“Was at the game. The five pence piece was the same size as a Deutschmark. So we were using them in the beer and fag machines. Great bargain. I also couldn’t believe the amount of sex shops in the city, there must have been hundreds of blow up dolls at the game wearing Rangers scarves. Good times”.
Image of Jesus during a game being played by the loyal protestant Rangers? disgusting. Probably done by those Irish fenians who kill British soldiers so their theocracy can come into existence. Pass my Israeli flag I’m off to ibrokes.
Wife n daughter once sat next to a Dutch bloke on a flight back from Cyprus who was convinced he was Jesus Christ.
He was casually dressed in modern garb, and also had the obligatory sandals.
…and a beard and long hair.
It was a VERY long flight.
HH!!
biblejohannCSC
Tallybhoy
Strange you should say that.
I was in Amsterdam…saw a busker who looked like jesus.
He was playing slide blues with a hip flask.
His name is Jack Broadbent.
Cant do the link thingy….but check him on yt
Awesome Guitarist.
HH
Tallyboy, I’ve a 5 litre bottle of bardolino superiore wine, can’t find anything out about such a size of bottle, any ideas?
The inveterate (from the Latin of course) hatred of the image of Christ on the Cross among those who loosely associate themselves with the Church of Scotland but closely associate themselves with OO/sevco has long been a source of mystery to me. Perhaps best explained by the tenuous nature of the church connection and best exemplified in the oft heard statement, ‘I’m not a Christian, I’m a Protestant…..’
OneClubOpen2AllCSC
HH jamesgang
PS while playing rugby in Colorado 25 years ago Jesus was playing for one of the other teams in a 7s tournament.
Sounded like a Billy Graham rally when he scored a try!
Jesus cha cha cha
Jesus cha cha cha
HH jamesgang
Jamesgang
One of Sq Jnr’s less devoutly minded associates once memorably described his status as
AHM A KAFFLIK BUT AH WUDNT SAY AHM A ROMAN KAFFLIK.
Karma?
https://johnjamessite.com/2016/05/30/the-tjn-addendum/
Four hours left to renew
SNECKER .
I think a 5 litre bottle of wine is called a Bordeaux Jeroboam . No idea re the value of Bardolino 1988 .. I can buy the 2012 /2013 vintage for @ 7 euros a bottle
JAMESGANG
Some huns of my acquaintance refer to such as a hang-glider.
Though only the once in my company.
Idiots. Their hatred blinds them to everything else.
SNECKER –
oops -1998
The Green Brigade song in Santa Ponsa is being carried by The Sun online…..
It’s pretty dam catchy, Miss GFTB walking about the house singing it this morning, made me smile, can almost hear my mother shouting down “fit you better to sing hymns in the chapel”
WINNINGCAPTAINS
Does he not end by saying that he expects no punishment for Sevco?
BIG CUP WINNERS
I can’t actually disprove what you say, but IMO the vision of Jesus that appeared during the 1st Rangers game was not Salvador Dali’s Christ of St John of the Cross.
This is my favourite painting (I actually spent five minutes with it last Saturday, about the 30th time I have seen it.)I was familiar with that painting at the time of the Cologne game.
That appearance could have been black and white, I can clearly remember it was a view of Christ on the cross, from the right hand side, looking up (Jesus’ left side) It was a moving picture, not a still.
Winning Captains
Give them a few boots on my behalf.
Sore ones:)
HH
‘Shortly before the group made their last appearance on Top of the Pops in the spring of 1976, dancer and TV presenter Lesley Judd became a temporary member of the group for a one-off routine, dancing to Rodrigo’s Guitar Concerto De Aranjuez by Manuel And The Music Of The Mountains’
– and bhoys will still come on here and have the audacity to dispute my belief that modren life is rubbish…
Squire Danaher
Lol Mhate. Tim Lite so to speak!
Bobbio
I heard that once too.
Just once.
Aff oot for a cycle. Day off and going on the basis that if I want be coolio like Auld JJ then I’d better live more like Auld JJ
HH jamesgang
THE GREEN MAN
Thanks for that.
I see he is appearing at the Montreux Festival next month.
Amazing guitarist.
Need to keep an eye out for him in the future.
HH!!
TALLYBHOY
Guy has paid his dues busking all over.
Getting a bit of success now.
He can really play that slide.
Great to watch.
HH
Jack Broadbent and Major (the dug) busking in Islington.
HH!!
Bobby,
SFA done bang to rights and Sevco officially recognised as a new club.
I like them bananas!
The old rangers are deid and the new Sevco are gash and skint. Clear out at Hampdump.
Real investment in a full Paradise. Going for 6 in a row.
These are good times!
Eurochamps67
Ah ffs!
Here’s the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qv-_8OtzjQ&index=11&list=RD2fXZ1V0hlqg
HH!!
HUNDERBIRDS ARE GONE
Just found this excerpt from the “10 men won the league book”. Looks like you were right.
“Rangers’ European tie against Cologne broadcast by STV. In the middle of coverage a crucifixion scene appeared randomly.
“It transpired that STV technicians were preparing to show an advert for the forthcoming series Jesus of Nazareth and someone made a blunder by starting it in error during the match,” says Murray. Needless to say that the more extremist elements of the Rangers support found the incident to be a part of a “Catholic conspiracy”.
Memory is a funny old thing eh……….
Maybe Dali’s masterpiece appeared in one of their other failed attempts to win the Big-Cup ?
That never achieved ambition eventually killed them :-)
EUROCHAMPS67
That sounds like a wonderful scenario.
Ive got my popcorn ready:)
HH
Perhaps, since we’re losing all our best players while possible replacements either are too dear or don’t want to come, we should just hand Warby’s wonders the league right now. After all ,with the inspiration of Joey Barton and the hunners of other great players they’re going to sign, poor Brendan diznae have a chance.
There y’are bhoys ,nae need to check the SMSM, I’ve summarised it all for you.
Tallybhoy
That lad can really rock that slide.
Fab
HH
GLENDALYS
Check that vid Tallybhoy linked:)
HH
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
New Club? No Punishment…
Same Club? Oh dear….
Karma.
Tallybhoy
Another?
‘Walking Blues’ Martin Simpson….yt
I think you might like this one:)
HH
Late 1970’s, saw ‘The Invisible Man’ once… Outside The Copper Lamp in Maryhill… he was having a square go with a guy known locally as ‘The Dummy’… Then the polis arrived and arrested ‘The Dummy’ for Breach of the Peace… but no ‘The Invisible Man’… claimed they nevet saw him…
Case was slung…
T
cont…
…rue story…
TBM
Every time WC posts I am scared it’s going to get removed and leave us all in suspense
Have Sevco not been punished enough, they now have to play by the rules, well, the financial rules, which means spending what you can afford …..
Still not sure who is paying Joey Barton, but also don’t really care
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 30TH MAY 2016 1:01 PM
GLENDALYS
Check that vid Tallybhoy linked:)
Superb!
I’m a big Martin Simpson fan too. I like to amuse myself by playing (I use the term loosely) some of his stuff from the ‘Ramble to Cashel’ cd.
Tallybhoy
And my final tone of sublime beauty….which i first heard as a bhoy,….amazed me, and got to me in a way that i still dont understand.
Willie Clancy….Dark Lochnagar…on yt.
Takes me away somewhere beautiful, and i dont want to come back:)
HH
GLENDALYS
Saw Martin in Milngavie of all places.
Came out after it….speechless.
He played ‘The Plains of Waterloo’….I though i was going to faint:)
That tone will live with me.
HH
EUROCHAMPS67
WINNINGCAPTAINS
Aye,I get that. Officially recognised as a new club-except in Scotland,so no change.
SFA clear-out. Somehow I doubt it. Unless those responsible-and that’s virtually everyone-is officially barred from holding office by UEFA. I don’t think they’ll consider it important enough to justify the expense and effort.
They may,though,kick it upstairs to FIFA with a recommendation that SFA be removed from the IFAB.
Time will tell. I’m not trying to be a sourpuss,I know the effort and expense incurred by The Resolutioners. I just get a feeling that it will be airbrushed again. And I’m hoping to be wrong!