Strict liability when playing to gallery

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Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.

If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense.  You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.

Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability.  This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.

Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses.  It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.

The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.

Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox

Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer.  He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.

26 miles is a long way to run.  You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.

Good luck, Tommy.

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  1. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    HENR1K

     

     

    Thanks for posting it,though. Only chance I got to read it.

     

     

    And c&p and Mail to myself…

  2. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    BSR&BMCUWP

     

     

    Lee Harvey Oswald shot by Jack Ruby….live on tv…..very, very convenient, if not fake.

     

    Who is Lee Harvey Oswald….What one is he?

     

    Is he the guy who got shot live on TV…..ive got my doubts.

     

    Check the different pics of Oswald….They are not all the same man imo.

     

    Maelstrom of disinformation….strange deaths of witnesses, up to 200 people.

     

    imo….it was a CIA Coup…..An Assassination ,Black Propaganda, Media War.

     

    The Fascists take control.

     

     

    HH

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  4. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    Secret Service Agent George Hickey in the following car may have shot and killed JFK by accident, hence the cover up.

     

     

    At least that’s the central thesis of the book Mortal Error.

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE

     

    THEGREENMAN

     

     

    Ah,brilliant!

     

     

    The return of The Silly Season,and I mean that without disrespect to the points you have made.

     

     

    In other words,nae fitba’ nae Celtic,nae nuthin. How are we gonna fill the time?

     

     

    I blame Georgia,it will always be on WGS’s mind,that’s for sure.

     

     

    Anyway,I’ve just been invited over to Maldon in Essex again,weekend wi my mate and his wife 11 June. Wales v Slovakia then England against I dunno some team that I hope hump them.

     

     

    Oh aye,Russia. Added bonus,I can wind up MACJAY if they do.

     

     

    Bottle of malt,bottle of very old red wine and most of an ACGR special heading over.

     

     

    I’m kinda hoping they’ll let me pay for dinner as well this time. Bugger ordered up while I nipped out for a fag-aye,that old trick…

     

     

    Point is,and there is one.

     

     

    Sad git that am ur,I’m lost without Celtic. I hate the close-season.

     

     

    Here’s a wee choon for the Boss fans tomorrow. Sums it up for me.

     

     

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4JfkZ5mJs

  6. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    RAYWINSTONESBIGDISEMBODIEDHEID

     

     

    The head shot definitely came from,in front,to Kennedy’s right.

     

     

    I’m not gonna put a link up to it,it really will not make pleasant viewing.

     

     

    I’d be very surprised if it came from behind,though the initial minor blow did.

  7. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    THEGREENMAN

     

     

    I thought you’d been discredited as a commentator due to your mycophilia?

  8. BMCUW,

     

     

    We also only open the toilets which weren’t wrecked previously,reducing them to pishing where they stand. Hopefully a real rain will soon clear that smell and besides which,before long,they either learn to behave themselves or realise that they’re gonna smell like everyone else in The Louden.

     

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    Ha, reminds me of the nose blind adverts. More appropriate too.

     

     

    HH.

  9. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    WHITEDOGHUNCH

     

     

    Ape,actually. And an endangered one.

     

     

    I’m not going to comment on the rights or wrongs of how the zoo dealt with that,but it should never have had to do so in the first place.

     

     

    Zoos were originally an animal equivalent of asylums,places for people to go and gape at things they had never seen before. Now,they are largely responsible for the conservation,protection,and progenitors of endangered species.

     

     

    Human stupidity wiped one out.

  10. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    If you had the misfortune to plough through the mind-numbing dross that i do, you would be glad to indulge in such JFK speculation.

     

    For instance….and i wouldnt advise anyone to do this, ive just read…’The First Blast of the Trumpet against the Monstrous Regiment of Women'(1558)…by a certain Mr Knox.

     

    What a fecking bampot.

     

    Its almost enough to make me go to Mass…..but not quite:)

     

     

    I say the CIA got the JFK idea…from the Nazi’s….but,…shhhhh:)

     

     

    HH

  11. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    BMCUW. The book I refer to is well researched and states unequivocally that the killing head shot came from behind.

     

     

    It’s worth a read if you can get a hold of it. In fact I’m sure there was a TV documentary about it not that long ago.

  12. The video that shows JFK’s driver turning round and shooting him is as true as any of the official tales.

     

     

    Conspiracy theories, absolutely, just look at the hoax that was the Moon Landings.

     

     

    HH.

  13. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Mushrooms….merely a scientific exploration, a sort of live thought experiment.

     

    It was my endless curiosity…..a bit like Newton when he decided to stick pins in his eye to see light refract,…but not quite as dramatic:)

     

     

    HH

  14. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    RAY

     

     

    GOOGLE Zapruder film.

     

     

    Be prepared to be shocked.

     

     

    I’d be very surprised if you still think that shot came from behind.

     

     

    But.

     

     

    There was definitely a slightly earlier and non-lethal blow from behind.

     

     

    Shown in the same film.

     

     

    Honestly,do not google it if you think that a bullet through the head leaves an exquisite corpse. It is not pleasant.

  15. South Of Tunis on

    Italia 1 v Scotland 0 .

     

     

    Didn’t watch it -but -this man did ..

     

     

    ” A one sided game against very limited opposition simply confirmed what everybody knows – we are better than average defensively and in midfield but in attack we are mediocre “.

     

     

    Paolo Maldini 31 /5 /16

  16. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    Thanks BMCUW but I saw the Abraham Zapruder film some time ago.

  17. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    THEGREENMAN

     

     

    Well,there’s an argument that by bigging up yer past that you promote the use of drugs.

     

     

    Me,I look at myself fae years ago and your daft nonsense fae the other night,and I think,wow,I’m glad them strong things wurnae available then!

     

     

    Just don’t do it,kids.

     

     

    (And if you do,do it in the house. Yours.)

  18. South Of Tunis on

    GREENPINATA @ 10.33 .

     

     

    ” just look at the hoax that was the moon landings ” .

     

     

    OK -given that I wasn’t there and therefore can’t be 100 % certain. – can you tell me where and how they faked the film ( given that it definitely wasn’t shot on planet Earth ) ?

  19. whitedoghunch on

    BMCUW

     

    the level of faux outrage that saw the story lead bbc morning news was pathetic

     

    and me and monkeys go way back

  20. The best JFK reconstruction ever :)

     

     

    Seinfeld – The Magic Loogie, Reconstructed – YouTube

  21. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Right…you want conspiracy theory, try this one.

     

    The sixties in America and Europe…Counter Culture, LSD, Timothy Leary, Kool-Aid Acid Test, RocknRoll, Hippies, Height-Ashbury, Charles Manson.

     

    All Manufactured by the American Military and the CIA.

     

    The Mamas and Papas, The Doors and so on….look at their backgrounds.

     

    Ike warned about the Military-Indistrial Complex.

     

    The Counter-Culture, Turn on, Tune in, Drop out, LSD……was another kind of coup, but one of the mind.

     

    Who did Timothy Leary and Gordon Wasson work for…..Who was Jim Morrisson’s dad?

     

    And why does Charles Manson’s swastika tatoo…look different in various pics and vids.

     

    Shhhhhh

  22. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    RAYWINSTONESBIGDISEMBODIEDHEID

     

     

    I hadn’t,mate. I’d seen various others but what the hell,a flawed man died beside his horrified wife.

     

     

    His misdemeanours shouldn’t detract from what he countered,and overcame. His legacy might even be the disasters that befell his country for the next thirty years.

     

     

    But there are a fair few Presidents assassinated. None are as revered as JFK. It was hope that died that day,as much as a man did.

  23. Hunderbirds are Gone on

    And as we approach the news at the top of the hour, here is the top 3 in this weeks Conspiracy Chart.

     

     

    Up 4 places to number 3, it’s a modern remix of a 60’s favourite, the timeless classic:

     

    “A lone gunman didn’t kill Kennedy – FACT!”

     

     

    At number 2, another 60’s revival, the ever popular:

     

    “We didn’t put a man on the moon, no way”

     

     

    But the number one Conspiracy Chart item this week……….it’s a clever piece, it’s fooled millions (of fans)

     

    “Rangers before and after 2012 is the same club”

     

     

    ;)

  24. kevinlasvegas on

    SOUTH OF TUNIS

     

     

    considering the amount of freedom the internet has given information. We would know by now if they faked it. Someone would have talked. I did like the Room 237 stuff though with regards to Kubrick being on hand to help fake it. But I think they definitely went if not the Russia’s would have had someone inside to blow the whole thing into the open.

     

     

    9/11 I’m not so sure much like JKF. The evidence is there its up to people to decide one way or another.

     

     

     

    KLV

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    BORGO67

     

     

    I recall the good old days of The Enclosure at Ibrox. The standing bit.

     

     

    The place to be.

     

     

    Trust me,the huns above wurnae bothered about their kids,they were too interested in their own version of the rain dance.

     

     

    Umbrella de rigeur.

  26. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    All in jest.

     

    Dont do this at home.

     

    But i take your point.

     

    However,I wouldnt think id be encouraging predominately middle-aged men to go too wild.

     

    They already have done…..long ago.

     

     

    HH

  27. Starting to think we may see a new deidco before we see a new article…..

     

     

    HH jamesgang

  28. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Loving this thread.

     

     

    Like the good old days.

     

     

    I miss GOLDCOASTTOM,he would normally come on and shoot down conspiracy theorists like goldfish in a barrel.

     

     

    If yer out there,Tom,get fired in.

  29. Bobby

     

     

    Fortunately I never had to endure that. Although the oldco allowed us those seats in the main stand above the enclosure when they were at a low ebb.

     

    I was sat there at the 4-2 game when Dundee UTD won the league

  30. SOUTH OF TUNIS on 31ST MAY 2016 10:46 AM

     

     

    The “Moon Landings” were of course shot in the Nevada desert. I admit it was a remarkable hoax, but no more remarkable than trying to kid us on that man landed on the moon in 1969. 47 years ago, when computers were in infancy and the Internet was was basically a dream.

     

     

    HH.

  31. Borgo67

     

     

    So is ‘low ebb’ how one says ’empty bladder’ in polite Timmish society?

     

     

    ;-)

     

     

    HH jamesgang

  32. Hunderbirds are Gone on

    SOT 10:46am

     

     

    I actually think the film of the moon landings lends more weight to the theory it was a hoax. Considering the hours of footage that were on live when I was a bhoy, relatively little seems to be available publicly now, and what there is looks far from convincing to me.

     

     

    But like yourself, I wasn’t there, so can offer no proof.

  33. Was OJ Simpson framed ?

     

    If so, why ?

     

    Did he come across some sensitive info when researching his part in the film Capricorn 1 ?

     

    Was That film too close to reality?

     

     

    I guess it’s all about opinions as we were not there. But it won’t be the first time a big lie is given as truth and we now have the Internet.

     

     

    HH.