Strict liability when playing to gallery

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Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.

If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense.  You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.

Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability.  This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.

Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses.  It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.

The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.

Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox

Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer.  He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.

26 miles is a long way to run.  You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.

Good luck, Tommy.

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  1. Thom

     

    Seriously ?

     

    Well I never and am not surprised, well I am cos I honestly couldn’t see you trolling in a month of sundays.

     

    This place has it’s ups and downs, but it’s a far far superior blog to anything I have come across on the net.

     

    HH

  2. minx1888 praying to Wee Oscar on

    BUNDORAN BHOY – TEAM OSCAR FOREVER on 30TH MAY 2016 8:49 PM

     

    Evening bhoys and ghirls just wanted to say a HUGE thank you to Paul67 for a push in the main article and to all who have donated so far

     

     

     

    Completed my 1st ever marathon yesterday in absolutely scorching weather which made it even tougher but I completed it for Oscar and Solving Kids Cancer and I’m well chuffed I did.

     

     

     

    Thanks again to all

     

     

     

    Bundoran Bhoy HH

     

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    Well done BundoranBhoy!! That is some achievement pal!!

     

     

    I hope you are sitting with your feet up!

     

     

    Really proud of you!!

  3. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    TET,

     

     

    It was an editorial decision, due to me spelling out Liquidation to one of the protected species, who recognised the word but still supported the same club.

     

     

    Apparently oldco-newco is no longer a topic for discussion on the open thread. Not that I raised the subject.

  4. sonofaderryman on

    Sitting here tonight lurking as always in sunny Bettystown and noticed the comments on young Mikey Johnston I have mentioned a few times that I’m a a serial lurker but seldom post, however on one of my infrequent posts 4 years ago I mentioned that this lad could be a real find . He is a cracking little player who I know for a fact has his feet well and truly on the ground I for one hope this bhoy fulfills his potential as he has all the natural ability you could wish for

  5. MINX1888 PRAYING TO WEE OSCAR

     

     

    Thanks pal appreciate all the support and good luck and well done messages. Feel very honoured to have so many amazing friends n family to support me. Must admit was very emotional as I ran over finish line and deffo she’d a few tears for our wee hero

     

     

    Quiet day today to recover x

  6. Thom

     

    I have been banned twice, first time for telling them that the cabal would come to their rescue, and in a way they have, second time for talking about referees, which is another taboo subject on the SFM.

     

    It seems that referees are not bent in scotland and I really am paranoid.

     

    You learn something every day so you do.

     

    HH

  7. Clogher

     

    Letter to coca cola

     

     

    A great piece of structured correspondance mate.well documented and laid out.

     

    Ceitic

     

    HH

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  8. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    TET& THOMTHETIM

     

     

    You are too good for the wretches bhoys.

     

    The truth will out.

     

    Whether they like it or not.

     

     

    HH

  9. WC

     

     

    You are inching nearer and nearer and the sound of the tic toc grows louder and louder.

     

    Well done everyone por cierto.

  10. minx1888 praying to Wee Oscar on

    BundoranBhoy I’m not surprised a few tears escaped :-) phenomenal achievement and I’m sure I speak for all CQN contributors and lurkers!!

  11. WC @ 09:47 PM,

     

     

    Yes, quite…

     

     

    When I was looking for the LNS summary, I came accross SR’s comments.

     

     

    As you are well aware, he has let little away vis~a~vis the 5 way agreement but in the wake of LNS he said this…

     

     

    “Over the course of a number of drafts of the agreement, various parts of that were then negotiated out and that was part of an ongoing process involving the [Scottish] Football League, the Premier League in Scotland, the Scottish FA and both oldco and newco as far as the Rangers Football Club are concerned.”

     

     

    I.e. Nothing.

     

     

    If, as we understand it, the five way agreement has Newco accepting any Football liabilities and penalties of Rangers FC (il), then why have we got the LNS Commision stating findings contrary to that agreement.

     

     

    It suggests that LNS didn’t take the five way agreement into account.

     

     

    Or

     

     

    The agreement put no such onus on Newco.

     

     

    Either way, Stewart Regan’s comments are a total sham.

     

     

    Thanks to you and all the bhoys who are working to expose this…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  12. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    See awe you Tims – bunch a bliddy pests :-))))

     

     

    Looking forward to this week. Suspect, also, that the Herald chap was fishing for his Masters…

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC

  13. Fair play to the resolve of the resolutioners!!

     

     

    Scandalsville for the hampden park true blue loyal no.1 Rangers Supporters Club?

     

     

    Here’s hoping.

  14. TGM

     

    At the end of the day there really was no need for all the cover ups et all.

     

    All they had to do was hold their hands up, apologise, accept they had been caught and start again.

     

    Their problems could be starting all 0ver again hopefully, but I honestly can’t see it, there are too many suits who would lose face and that ain’t gonna happen.

     

    It took three decades for the truth to out re Hillsbourgh, I can’t see the cabal up here exposing themselfs, can you ?

     

    HH

  15. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    TET

     

     

    The world changes.

     

    The Res 12 and CQN bhoys, including you and Thom, and all the rest of the bhoys on the blog, have fought all the way, refused to quit….and have really rattled cages.

     

    I hope to get a few swift boots in myself:)

     

    Id back our bhoys to come out on top:)

     

    I believe the cracks are beginning to show.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    HH

  16. TGM

     

    We will just have to wait and see, too many false flags for my liking.

     

    I wish I had your confidence.

     

    I also think people are putting too much expectations on Res 12, at the end of the day all it was about was to get answers from the sfa, if it happens to expose the corrupt bassas and bring their house down all the better, but I think we should reign the hope in a tad.

     

    HH

  17. SNAP

     

     

    I think i made out Brendan Rodgers

     

     

    : > )

     

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    EMERALDBEE\O/ STILL PROUD TO BE AN INTERNET BAMPOT on 30TH MAY 2016 9:52 PM

     

    Have listened a few times to the ‘Brendan Rodgers’ fan fest in Majorca but just can’t make out the lyrics.

     

     

     

    Anyone help?

  18. THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 30TH MAY 2016 6:26 PM

     

    MATS NILLOC on 30TH MAY 2016 4:40 PM

     

     

    So anyone who tries to better their take home salary,in your books is a “Slimeball”

     

    Dear oh dear oh dear,WTF has happened on here.Too many sounding like Hun Media followers.

  19. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    TET, TGM,

     

     

    It’s the naivety of the SFM administrator to think that visitors from the dark side are there for any other reason than to undermine their efforts.

     

     

    The polite plausibility of the peepil masks their true intentions, but the mask always slips when you scratch their surface.

     

     

    They are masters of passive aggression and playing the victim, as we all know.

     

     

    As for TRFC. They are poverty stricken, financially and morally, but, I’m afraid, like the poor, they will always be with us.

     

     

    So, to that end, we have to royally skelp them whenever they cast their evil shadow upon us or darken our door.

     

     

    I would still boycott any SFA competitions though, till justice is seen to be done!

  20. WC

     

     

    Sorry:O( Feel free to delete my post @ ???????? fek you’ve it already.:O\

  21. WC

     

    Is it what Voguepunter has just had removed ?

     

    If so caught that, so thanks Vogue Bhoy :-)))

  22. South Of Tunis on

    MACJAY / JUNGLE JIM

     

     

    Guy who sang -BIngo I’m in Love – had a mighty fine choon store in Streatham called Carey’s Swing Store..Sold US blues and Rnb 45s by mail order in the early 60s..I gave him a big share of my milk round / paper round earnings ..

  23. willmacufree on

    BIG GEORGES FAN CLUB – HAIL, HAIL, WEE OSCAR on 30TH MAY 2016 7:52 PM

     

    WILLMACUFREE on 30TH MAY 2016 5:19 PM

     

     

    BIG GEORGES FAN CLUB – HAIL, HAIL, WEE OSCAR on 30TH MAY 2016 2:08 AM

     

     

     

    THELURKINTIM on 30TH MAY 2016 1:54 AM

     

     

     

    Didn’t happen…..

     

     

    Jesus yes…..son of God no ;-))

     

     

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    Matter of belief mate – some believe he was, some believe he wasn’t – a matter of faith.

     

     

    No one can know either way, other than in their own mind or heart.

     

     

    Each to his own belief.

     

     

    HH

     

     

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    He did claim to be the Son, several times. I do the will of the Father etc. etc.

     

     

    Then he went to his death for this claim. Very strong evidence.

     

     

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    Yes – I’m not disputing what Jesus said, or what he believed.

     

     

     

    Just saying that is a matter of personal faith whether an individual today believes it too.

     

    You and me both!

  24. Whit yeez like mhan???

     

     

    ‘The hyperlink thingie disnae work….I cannae make oot whit they’re singing……in my day we’d not be aff oot abroad partying like that…..we’d be glad o jeely piece in between 16 hour shifts……’

     

     

    AuldFartsCSC

     

     

    HH jamesgang

     

     

    Btw I cannae make out the words neither!!

     

     

    PS Bundoran Bhoy – star!!!!!

  25. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    TET

     

     

    Its not that im overly confident.

     

    Rather, its been going on so long, that its due to crumble.

     

    I dont think they can uphold that control forever…especially when they are skint.

     

    I look at the intellectual capacity of the the cabal…King, Traynor, Tinfoil Heed, Stuart Robbo etc….not the brightest.

     

    By contrast, our lads are pretty damn sharp.

     

    Ive got my popcorn ready….should be good:)

     

     

    HH