Hibernian chairman, Rob Petrie, yesterday told BBC Radio Scotland “Integrity is beyond purchase”. It’s incredible to think that we live in times where this is actually news.
It’s hard to imagine how anyone would go about arguing with Rod on this matter. Kilmarnock chairman, Michael Johnston’s recent comment, “The [SPL] clubs are mindful of a sporting integrity aspect but the commercial benefits may outweigh that” offers the alternative view, but the logical conclusion of Petrie’s argument is stark. If integrity of top clubs can be purchased, what about officials, referees and players with bookmaker friends?
We can assume Hibernian will join Celtic in voting against admitting a Newco directly into the SPL, should such a vote occur. Five clubs in total are required to block such a proposal. With Petrie declared against, would Romanov at Hearts vote for Newco? His previous public pronouncements suggest he would relish the opportunity to take on one of the big Glasgow clubs.
Dundee United and Aberdeen are two other clubs under significant supporter pressure. Both teams are also keen to change the 11-1 voting rule, which would be possible without a Newco.
Rangers, Kilmarnock, St Johnstone (through manager Steve Lomas) have all declared in favour of admitting a Newco, I expect Motherwell and St Mirren will do the same. Ross County and Inverness may fancy adding Dundee into next season’s relegation fight instead of Newco but there has been no indication how either club would vote.
The 7th May vote was the best chance of getting Newco provisions voted through. The more time clubs have to consider the decision the more susceptible they will be to supporter lobby.
I am of the view that SPL chief, Neil Doncaster, will not allow himself to become aware if Rangers have a prima facie case to answer as a result of the SPL inquiry into contractual arrangements until after a vote is taken. Deadline for clubs to respond to the inquiry passed over five weeks ago. A simple check of submissions against SPL records is all that is required. Even if each clubs issued an all-clear, the inquiry should have reported.
Doncaster perhaps has no idea of the flood that will come his way soon and wash away all of these questions. His opportunity to act before events overtake him is limited.
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Awe_Naw
Without going too far back for presidents, or watersheds.
I’d have listened to David Hay in 1982, (and applied every year since)
Paraphrased ” If it was up to me I’d apply for the English League tomorrow ”
I’m hopeful it’s still an escape route – serve notice to quit if they get in as a new club.
Maybe we’ve already told the SPL /SFA that?
Leftclick.
Very inspirational. A new take on the difference between giving a man a fish and teaching him how to fish.
thomthethim
Ha – Got it.
DBBIA 1557
An astonishing feat,indeed,but also the date when the club moved to incorporated status.
Looks like we sold the heritage to buy the stadium.
Paul,
I know Mr Doncaster has said that should the rules be changed to allow clubs to vote on any newco application then an 8 – 4 majority would be required. That would imply that the matter is an Ordinary Resolution under SPL Articles.
But under Article 2, the section which defines a Special Qualified Resolution (one requiring a 10 – 2 vote) and where it applies, one of the issues mentioned is
“the allotment and issue of a share”.
Now it could be that the rule changes proposed for discussion on 30/5 will change this. Or it could be that they believe transferring a share to a newco is different from “allotment and issue”.
I e-mailed the SFA on 7 May seeking clarification but have yet to receive any reply.
Best wishes to big Dan for a speedy recovery and all the best big man with AIK. H.H.
Zbyszek on 15 May, 2012 at 16:46 said:
Len Brennan
Don’t forget to put Toto Tamuz on the list. Source – John Park :-)
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Thanks my friend. I’ll be speaking with JP later this week with some info so will pick his brain then. ;O0
HH
/Bishop B
!!Bada Bing!! on 15 May, 2012 at 16:42 said:
says who?
!!Bada Bing!! on 15 May, 2012 at 16:42 said:
Rumour Green does walking away……
source?
BMCUWP – I think the founders of Celtic , once Bro Walfrid had left, realsied how much money could be made out of the game, and set about maximising their income.
For all the Club’s original altruism, Celtic invented professional football in Scotland.
Another good deed that didn’t go unpunished ;/)
Monaghan1900 on 15 May, 2012 at 15:57 said:
So the huns don’t want the SFA to name any investors until the newhunco is complete and the creditors have been shafted, for the good of the huns.
These are the same huns who are laying all their illegal wrongdoings at the feet of CW because the SFA didn’t get involved before his take-over was complete and left it till he was in place, which was too late and to the detriment of the huns.
Stupid Hurtin Huns!!
Is the statement from the St Jo… man, advising how many would go out of business when the huns die, mearly him advising on the wording of the lloyds reported letter to clubs about their overdraft facility.
OG R…,
any news on that line of enquiery
thomthetim finds his mode of transport after celebrating famous league win
GREEN LANTERN
You may need to update your ADOBE FLASH PLAYER.
Awe Naw,
Forgive me if this has been answered already. I have just come by your question at 15:53 about what Celtic have to lose by making their position clear that Hubs don’t.
In my view a lot would be lost by Celtic making any comment at such a delicate point. Remember, it’s not that long ago that many onlookers outside Celtic saw no problem with a NewClub in the SPL. In fact most people expected it to happen as a matter of course. It is only now as the full extent of their wrongdoing is being laid bare that public opinion is starting to swing. The last thing Celtic need to do now is come out and say something that will allow the media to shift focus away from their guilt and make it an ‘Old Firm’ issue.
It’s way to early to show our hand here.
*Hibs*
Celtic Hub tweeting the take-over is in trouble…….Non disclosure by D&P
what ever that means?
danso_1888 on 15 May, 2012 at 17:00 said:
what ever that means?
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Probably the same as it did wil Bill Miller mate.
They’ve lied!
HH
/Bishop B
Len Brennan on 15 May, 2012 at 16:34 said:
jimmibhoy on 15 May, 2012 at 16:13 said:
The Mudders went into admistration on the 25th April 2002 mate.
I think the Huns confusion stems from the recent reports which looked back at the period of admin 10 years on.
http://www.motherwell-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/ten_years_ago__motherwell_in_administration_741028/index.shtml
Here the article which shows when they cam out of admin almost two years on.
http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/1760682/motherwell-fc-emerges-administration
HH
/Bishop B
The Battered Bunnet on 15 May, 2012 at 16:39 said:
For the Motherwell Conspiracy Theorists…
… Companies House confirms that Motherwell were discharged from their Administration Order on 25th May 2004.
It was the CVA that lasted a further 6 years.
Thanks guys
I’m now certain that my brother has seen the Motherwell Conspiricy Theory and is DEFO trying to wind me up.
Ilooked at both these sites recomended by Len Brenan and I focused on this from the second site confirming the coming out of administration:-
“Link: PKF declares Motherwell FC ‘fit’
Although a buyer for the club has not been found,”
So it IS Huns clutching at straws and I know that my Brother is TOO inteligent to believe it but thought he’d have some fun WINDING ME UP.
!!Bada Bing!! on 15 May, 2012 at 16:42 said:
Naw Naw Naw it couldny happen again…Im just getting used to the Yorkshire wide boy making a bahookie of himself on TV and you come out with that!
Best of luck to Big Dan on his return to Sweden.
He frustrated me at corners, he won so many balls but had a heid like a ten bob bit.
Nice to see the decks getting cleared.
macanbheatha
may yer da, Jim, RIP
am sure he was
a star !
hail hail
I like this site and mostly agree with Paul and admire him for his opinions which he usually articulates well.
However I must say that as far as Newco is concerned he is less than clear on his views.
Come on, get off the fence Paul.
DBBIA
That last line is one of my favourite expressions.
Simply because it is true,sadly.
Surely the Green bid cant be in trouble already ? everyone was so positive about it and I was looking forward to finding out how much FSA was getting for his war chest.There must be a wind up surely ? H.H.
Sorry, I saw a chiropractor, not an osteopath. I stand corrected.
‘war-chest makers’ must be getting fed up, as soon as a new one is ordered the plug is pulled.
Hope somebody is keeping an eye on that incubator, that thing over heats there could be trouble
Rieperman
Hibs or Hubs, I agree with you.
JJ
BSR 1706
Some people can be like a dog wi a bone when it comes to semantics.
RIP TommyBurns who will always be my favourite celt. I first saw Celtic win the league against st mirren in 82 and the post match celebrations were held up while Tommy went round every disabled car shaking hands and chatting. I later met him at a TommyBurns supper and he was a true gent. RIP Bobby too, before my time but a legend. Hx2
No source bhoys,a few calls and texts.
I’m gonna order a front loaded war-chest. This is the betamax of war-chests but I like retro.
BMCUWP – so you’ll know which was the first Club in Scotland to have a purpose built press box ? ;/)
One for the recorder tonight on ESPN Classic
Channel 429 (free to air)
01:50 UK ITV SPORTS ARCHIVE PROGRAMMING
Celtic v Real Madrid 1980
A genuinely classic encounter between two truly great team names from the days when each European Cup-qualifying side were their nation’s reigning League Champions. Duration : 35 mins
If you don’t want to know the score , look away now….
The Onlooker
BMCUW
* that hit elbow *
I’m really sick of Rangers driving the agenda.
The SPL clubs should be demanding Doncaster publish the results of the investigation into the double contracts.Then and only then should the discussion about Rangers future in the SPL be undertaken.
In that way Doncaster and the SPL clubs take the initiative and Rangers are put in their proper place, namely the dock awaiting the verdict.