We will never know the scale of sexual abuse in our institutions, or how far back in history they go; “historic” covers a lot of ground. What we know for sure is the lifelong damage caused by this abuse. Yesterday’s SFA review, apologies from clubs and the Association, and many criminal convictions, cannot repair the damage done, but it vindicates those who brought the issue to light.
It is hard to understand that the perpetrators walked among us, lived otherwise normal lives and held positions of respect. It could be decades before we know if the problems of the past persist today, such is the imbalance of power between abuser and victim. As a society, as families or as parents, we cannot be complacent. Boys clubs, churches and youth organisations were targeted in the past, but if these types still walk among us, and they almost certainly do, they will look where vigilance is less.
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GENE,
I don’t think that was the meaning in Julliens comments.Probably edited ,as well.He was saying,he had gone stale.To be perfectly honest,I agree.Terrific technical player,probably more suited to a different league.Maybe,a different manager,who can say.Similar for me,to Rogic.Players like them,will never be consistently brilliant,but thats the deal you have to be able to accept with these players.You know,we don’t have a support that is,on the whole,willing to accept.Sadly.
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 13TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:04 AM
‘Both Russian and Chinese vaccines are proven to protect without side effects beyon the pain of the jab and mild flu like symptoms while the drug builds up the bodies antibody count.’
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The whole point is that the time span over which these products have been developed does not allow anyone to say for certain there are no long term side effects.
There is a risk, but it’s far less than the known risk of the Covid 19 pandemic going unchecked.
Your faith in the rule of law prevailing in Russia and China is an indication of your grasp of the political and economic realities.
Ah ok Ernie I see what you did there, hold the Russians and Chinese up to higher standards than the rest, a “wee wifie from Salisbury” has less to fear from the Russians and Chinese that they have from Porton Down.
More chance of being treated fairly by the Russians and Chinese than big pharma or the British govt and less chance of being treated like a Guinea pig with her elected representitative a blessing.
Turkeybhoy
Consistently good would have done for me – he was consistently uninterested
Ernie..,
The Russians have been working on SARS since it first appeared in 2003, they like the Chinese (IMO correctly) viewed it as a threat and have been working on vaccines and cures for the last 17 years, that has not been happening in the west and the strategy of the west is purely reactionary.
The Russians and Chinese have been sharing that data with the west which is why the big pharma jot a jump start on the virus.
You really need to do a little research before you blurt out tired old propaganda drivel.
ERNIE,
I agree that the risk of Covid means that Vaccines on offer should be taken up.I would gladly have taken any on offer.Notwithstanding,I am more than happy I will be receiving the Chinese version.
Your faith in British justice and insurers does you proud,I might add.After all,their record is exemplerary.
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 13TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:14 AM
‘Ah ok Ernie I see what you did there, hold the Russians and Chinese up to higher standards than the rest, a “wee wifie from Salisbury” has less to fear from the Russians and Chinese that they have from Porton Down.’
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I’m not aware that anyone in Salisbury has been murdered by anyone from Porton Down.
Russia did though murder at least one person and tried to murder others.
I don’t have a lot of faith in either the Russian or Chinese states, and I doubt they would have any more regard for foreigners who challenge them than they do for their own citizens who challenge them.
UK government admit to 240 having died shortly after being vaccinated ………including 8 unborn babies. 90 were after astra-zenica the larger number were Pfizer. This is the period between December and the end of January . What were pregnant women doing getting the jab?
GENE,
I tend to agree,but maybe his style of play,his demeanor,made it look like that.Anyway,the change won’t do him or us any harm.We will still have the memories of winners against the Huns and Lazio.
Oh and mRNA has never been tried before so the whole proposal carries a far higher risk than modified common methods, the new bit to the Russian and Chinese vaccines that big pharma quilt latched onto (profit motive) is two jabs rather than one. The Russians identified two jabs with slightly different make ups provided a boost to the antibody count, the big pharma who have no idea of the medium or long term effects decided two jabs was a great idea, that’s before they know the effect of one jab ffs, simple logical thought tell you something stinks.
I’m not aware that anyone in Salisbury has been murdered by anyone from Porton Down.
I’m not aware that anyone from DERRY has been shot dead{ in the back} by anyone from MOSCOW.
Ernie…m
You’ll have proof beyond “highly likely” that Russian murdered anyone, yes?
BAMBOO on 13TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:23 AM
‘UK government admit to 240 having died shortly after being vaccinated ‘
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Source?
Bamboo,
Within acceptable parameters or collateral damage?
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 13TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:27 AM
Ernie…m
You’ll have proof beyond “highly likely” that Russian murdered anyone, yes?
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Here we go.
Tell us what you think in Salisbury.
If for no other reasons than it will be entertaining and will serve as a useful yardstick to measure your credibility (and credulity).
BAMBOO,
Please supply official facts and figures for these 240 deaths inside the 1st month of the Vaccine.Personally,I have never heard of this,which to say the least is surprising,as I am sure it would have had massive publicity.
Going by your other Vaccine posts,excuse me if I don’t believe this,but I am willing to be enlightened.
FAVOURITE UNCLE on 13TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:26 AM
Very good.
But of course entirely irrelevant to the point being discussed.
And how long do you think we’ll have to wait to see a Russian Savile inquiry?
Ernie..,
The onus of guilt is on the prosecution not the defendant, no?
“Highly likely” you honor would be laughed out of any court except kangaroo which you are obviously a supporter of.
Bamboo has made it up.
TURKEYBHOY on 13TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:33 AM
This seems to be a reliable summary of the deaths involved with the various trials.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-trial-idUSKBN28K1U3
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 13TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:35 AM
Come on, don’t be shy.
Tell us what YOU think happened.
Is it in mods remit to delete fake news?
Fav Uncle
Thanks for The Mungo Information.
ERNIE LYNCH on 13TH FEBRUARY 2021 11:22 AM
` I don’t have a lot of faith in either the Russian or Chinese states,`
Do you have a lot of faith in the UK state?
Ernie…
What is the relevance to why the Chinese and Russian vaccines where blocked from use in the UK until the Pfizer and Moderna were implemented?
Don’t be shy let’s stick toy the topic and stop trying to lead the discussion down your rabbit hole of unsubstantiated charges against another country all pure speculative conspiracy.
We where having a discussion about previously unused and unapproved medical treatments being suddenly approved for use and liability waivers granted to the makers, no?
Just seen the comments on Madden. If he’s really going due to his neutrality (don’t they know Panathinaikos wear a shamrock 🤔) and the SFA has agreed to this, then the least we should do is push for the refs to (honestly😕) declare who they support(ed) and subsequently can’t officiate.
Turkeybhoy @ 11.02am – They did have Refs.
So it’s not essential travel for someone to go there and do this job.
Whether the 2 teams like the Ref or not should not come into it or as we are all suggesting what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, ie we ask for same priveledge as Mr Madhun is going to accommodate or are we plebs/twigs shuts going to get in line and get on with it.
Our custodians should be asking these questions.
D :)
Martim1980,
Who fact checks the fact checkers?
Are you demanding censorship?
Do have refs I mean
Ziggeydoc I agree
D :)
And how long do you think we’ll have to wait to see a Russian Savile inquiry?
Just as soon as LORD WIDGERY finishes his.
ERNIE,
many thanks for that.By conclusion,it would seem that Bamboo,is getting his facts from deranged people posting on that most reliable source,Facebook.
Bamboo,you are an idiot.
Any update on Stephen Welsh `s injury?
ERNIE – TURKEYBHOY
The MRHA (Medical Healthcare Regulatory Agency).
I just read it in an article which analysis’s the figure in a factual and non sensational way.
You have to search for it yourself but all the fact and figures are there . All the different adverse reactions for each vaccine. Government spokesperson refuses to accept the vaccinations caused the death . Just a co-incidence.
Massive publicity -your having a laugh . The media have bent over backwards to silence dissenting voices .
Ive also viewed the official US adverse vaccine(Moderna and Pfizer) recactions up to the end of Jan. 339 pages of deaths and life threatening reactions -about 5 cases to each page with in-depth individual stories. Quite upsetting really .I can e-mail these .
Of course these unfortunate events are only a very small percentage in the millions that have been jabbed.
MARTIM1980
Apologies will be gratefully accepted.
DAVID 66,
Yes I agree100%.Its not as if we don’t have evidence to back it up.The travel is a different matter,and coming from a ruling body,who criticized us for traveling to Dubai,yet send a Referee on a jolly,to do what they will not allow under their own auspices,in our league,a neutral Referee,for a contentious match,is quite frankly astonishing.
So we are to believe only what the MSM tell us, bit of a change in direction for the naturally skeptical Celtic support.
We don’t believe a word depending on the subject, the MSM are only duplicitous some times, is that what’s happening here?
Apparently a lot of people on here today would have hung the Birmingham six and demanded people stop asking questions or offering alternative view points.
No fan of Johnson (bit of an understatement there!) but if you are holding up Putin and the Chinese govt as bastions of accountability and honesty you are deluded.
Ernie…,
Novichok stuck in your throat?
It ok a couple of weeks in bed should sort you out, it’s no that dangerous going on past reported exposure.