Values not politics.

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I don’t know if Scotland have ever worn a poppy but I suspect the SFA have been landed in this issue against their will by association with the FA in England. Fifa have indicated it is a political symbol and prohibited its attachment to football shirts. The FA and SFA plan to disregard that ruling and wear the poppy anyway.

Deliberately defying the rules is laced with Moral Hazard for the SFA, which will not be lost on the decision makers at Hampden. For years to come this act will be cited as evidence of double standards. It provides evidence for those who object to its very recent inclusion in football ceremony on the basis that politics should have no place in football.

Of course, declining to follow the FA’s lead would be a political act in itself, but one which fell within the rules.

I’m firmly of the belief that politics (as opposed to values) should have no place in football. I know this is a utopian aspiration, as sport and politics are inextricably linked, but only because trumpets continually insist on making them so.

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  1. HAMILTONTIM

     

     

    I see from some Facebook chatter that a step has been made in the right direction in the fight to repeal the act.

     

     

    Good work mate and thank you and the rest involved for fighting the good fight..

     

     

    SP

  2. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    NATKNOW on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 10:19 PM

     

    I knew Che was a left-winger but didn’t know Billy Connolly was one.

     

     

     

    Every day’s a school day…

     

     

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    Billy WAS one , but saw the light.

  3. Burdens responsibility?

     

    “Off with his head!”

     

     

    Anyone called me a ‘ward’ they’d end up in one.

     

     

    Enjoying your patter by-the-way, however, the old monarchs of olde were incestuous, pox ridden, mad mentalists. I suggest you go through a genealogist and trace your roots.

     

     

    You may have a claim! :-)

  4. acgr @ outlook dot com - Get your FREE the Zadok ringtone on

    Ha Ha, big peat. What makes you presume I sign on? And what would be wrong if I did have to sign on?

     

     

    Do you now have a beef with the out of work? That’s the kind of childish comment I expect ot see in the comments section of the scotsman or herald and is very demeaning for people who have lost their job or cant find work. Are you pished when you’re writing this?

     

     

    You can stick your poppy up yer arse. It has as much value there as on your lapel these days.

     

     

    I’ll respect the war dead in my own way without the need for fascist forced symbols and being told what to do by lickspittles like you.

     

     

    Anyway, I’m done with poppy’s and the like for this year, unless tomorrows curry has the same effect as last week’s.

     

     

     

    Get in there big peat.

  5. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 10:27 PM

     

    Big Peat

     

     

     

    You don’t want to be ruled by Brussels but you would happily bow to a king so long as he was descended from an effeminate Italian who liked to dress up in women’s clothes.

     

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    Bonny Prince Charlie ?

  6. Hope he doesn’t mind but lifted from a Facebook page

     

     

    Belter of a wee story from the other night in Dusseldorf;

     

     

    We get back from the game on Tues night and head for a beer in a bar just around the corner from our hotel. We end up sitting next to a bunch of tims from Johnstone who we had a few beers with on the Monday night and who were also staying at our hotel.

     

     

    The standard euro away trip type conversation then develops about what time we all got home at the previous night and by what form of transport – given the large amount of foaming German ales that had been consumed during the course of the day. Details were sketchy, at best.

     

     

    Anyway, one of the Johnstone guys then said; “Aye, but did you hear about that nugget?” (pointing to one of his middle-aged travelling companions at the other side of the table). He then starts to tell us that this guy got separated from the rest of them the previous night and was so scootered that he couldn’t remember either the name of his hotel or where it was.

     

     

    His solution was to pop into a police station and ask them where he was staying. Obviously.

     

     

    He told the cops that he didn’t know where the hotel was or its name, but that it began with a ‘The” and it was something to do with ‘John Wayne’.

     

     

    We were staying in The Best Western Hotel, Dusseldorf………

  7. Just heard that there was a Hun Lovin Criminal on Question Time, thought Dave King, turns out i was wrong it was Huey fae the band of similar moniker.

     

     

    Boo!

  8. acgr @ outlook dot com - Get your FREE the Zadok ringtone on

    BMA, how you doing big chap?

     

     

    Ha Ha, no, I’m not signing on (yet) but we have a live one who thinks it’s ok to insult people who do sign on because they don’t adhere to his policy. Shameful disrespect for the unemployed. Some of them may be ex servicemen anaw.

     

     

    I’m still hanging in there in the ever declining oil industry. A couple of years more and I’m away to Afghanistan to star a poppy farm………….:_)

  9. For anyone needing light relief, there is a parody Twitter account called POPPYWATCH that is well worth a look.

     

     

    The account rates poppy displays out of ten. Will try to post a link……

     

     

    Big peat in Islay, you might not appreciate it as much as I do, but if you can’t see the humour and satire in the tweets, you lost something valuable along the way.

     

     

    Democracy ‘n’ that.

  10. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    MICKBHOY1888 on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 10:48 PM

     

     

    Brilliant.

     

     

    A real tribute to the German constabulary.

  11. As Celtic progress from a “watch through yer splayed fingers while hiding behind the setee” to “look at what is possible and lies just over the horizon of dreams” CQN decides to cannibalize each other…..why?

     

     

    I have a wee story that I’ve kept in my sock, like I used to hide ma chib.

     

     

    It’s a Celtic tale…it isnt about poppies, it most definitely isn’t about anything apart from sitting under a table in 1961 and finding out that the whole world had lied to me…and that …admittedly I am not totally sober tonight, but I haven’t been since ma mammy put whisky in ma bottle to make me go to sleep and stop talking shite.

     

     

    She only stopped it when I turned 29.

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Matt

  12. My Granda used to say…..The drinks in the wits oot, he obviously could see into the future, aint that the case Wits :-)

     

    An amazing man was my Granda, went to visit him in the hosi the night afore he passed, took him a half bottle of Glenmorangie, he was over the moon, the nurses didn’t like the patients having a dram, anyways, he drank the half bottle and didn’t wake up, Mrs TET was with me, it was the first time she had met my Granda, she consoled me the next day, I knew she was right, I knew it was what he wanted, I knew he was the best thing that had ever happened to me, Oh and he NEVER WORE A POPPY, he though war was futile, how right he was.

     

    True story BTW

  13. Watching Question Time for 10 minutes, no wonder this country is in the state it’s in. Dreadful.

  14. Big Pet of Islay is back!

     

    They’re nothing but a big squirrel trying to pull our chains.

     

     

    There must be something bad coming down the line for Newclub or maybe we’re being distracted from thinking about Celtic plc’s role in the events of the last few years or we’re being waylaid from discussing the MSP’s vote against the Act.

     

    I just can’t figure out which one it is.

     

     

    But I think we’re much better discussing any of them than engaging with BPI

  15. SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 10:58 PM

     

     

     

    Time for a CQN list of favourite Royals.

     

     

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    Jim.

  16. Rowley Birkin QC on

    I’ve got the perfect solution for the FIFA poppy ban when Scotland play England at Wembley. Those who want to display a poppy can have it tattooed on their forehead thereby by-passing the FIFA ban!

     

     

    HH

  17. acgr @ outlook dot com - Get your FREE the Zadok ringtone on

    HT……………………….ha ha…………………..:_)

  18. Jim Royle

     

    King David King

     

    Queens of the Stone Age

     

    Queen Latifah

     

    King Crimson

     

    King Louie

     

    Marmaduke

     

    Elvis

     

    Traci Lords

  19. There used to be a certain dignity in the week leading up to Remembrance Sunday,the week has now become a month.The poppy was hijacked about ten years ago when our government went to war in the Middle East with very little public support.We now see celebrities wearing the poppy as a fashion item and God help any “unpatriotic” person who doesn`t wear one on tv.

     

    On Saturday 13 November 1999, the day before Remembrance Sunday, Scotland played England in a Euro 2000 Play Off match. There were no poppies wore on the players shirts and there were no demands by politicians or the media, for poppies to be worn.The poppy has been made political.

     

    Harry Patch,

     

    “Irrespective of the uniforms we wore, we were all victims”

  20. acgr @ outlook dot com - With a ringpiece like a Flanders Poppy on

    TET, I’ll be in your neck of the woods 27th Nov for a week. Coming over with ma auld maw and a young relative from Auz. Drop me a line if you fancy a sclaff.

     

     

    HH