When even Jim Farry blocked a royal postponement

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25 years ago, Scotland were due to play a World Cup qualification game against Belarus on the day of Princess Diana’s funeral.  The SFA, then run by chief exec Jim Farry, the same man who was eventually removed from office for delaying Celtic’s registration of Jorge Cadete, decided the game should proceed as planned.

Whatever you think of Farry, he acted without concern for the royalist contingent.  Despite the SFA’s offices being vandalised and Scottish Secretary, Donald Dewer, applying political pressure, Farry dug in:   ”We have taken heed of the various viewpoints, but let’s be reasonable about this, life does and must go on.”

He did not act alone, the SFA International Committee were involved, and they included Celtic’s Jack McGinn, and the Greatest Football Administrator the world has ever known, Campbell Ogilvie!  This was a strange time in Britain, maybe the strangest few weeks of the last century.

Royalists were split between backers of the self-styled Queen of Hearts (honestly), and those in the minority, who sided with the actual Queen.  The Queen, a bit like Farry, held out as long as she could against the indulgent wallowing infecting millions, by resisting calls to lower flags to half-mast.

Before the end of the week, royal flags were lowered and the Scotland game was postponed.  Those of us who never took an interest in royalty were often heard saying “Let’s be reasonable about this”, but were largely ignored.

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  1. I don’t mind the club tiptoeing around issues. They have a public face but we on Celtic blogs are not officially associated with the club.

     

     

    So anything said on here is a free speech issue and not a shameful matter or a low point

     

     

    Aff oot now unless my Friday activities have been cancelled

     

     

    How Loyalist are doggers as an association?😀

  2. BRRB 6.15pm

     

     

    That line up might be up for discussion

     

     

    More importantly

     

     

    What’s the starting line up for a week today ?

     

     

    Have I made first 11 or even the subs bench will do for now … if good enough for Giamakous or wee Kyogo am willing to either start or make an appearance if and when required

  3. Rugby ON

     

    England Test Match ON

     

    Horse Racing ON

     

    Theme parks OPEN

     

    Cinemas OPEN

     

    Theater ON

     

    Opera ON

     

    Football OFF

     

    Welcome to the “UNITED” Kingdom.

  4. AN TEARMANN @ 5:03 PM,

     

     

    The clue is in your answer CB,whatever criminality and law breaking rolled out from concept til 14.6.12 by the cheat will not be commented on by CFC.our majority

     

    shareholder commented at a golf tournament when asked as an individual,iirc sevco still had to be accepted into the league at the time.

     

     

    In a formal majority shareholder no formal comment and res12 and 11 voted down too,following what DD wanted.as majority shareholder

     

     

    In corporate terms I disagree as far as associating Celtic with anything that goes on at the hun past or present

     

     

    In Corp terms Celtic won’t comment on them.

     

     

    I thought it at end of the day14.6.12 and longer it goes on its right.let the hun explain their self harm.it is nowt to do with us.(from a maj shareholder p o.v but it shows more activity is needed re justice and governance but the recent fsa constraints tightening show influence is being made

     

     

    Surprised at you CB .

     

     

    2012 was not a problem in our history.

     

     

    1994 on the other hand…..

     

     

    2022 we are doing fine

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Totally agree, 2012 Rangers implosion was nowt to do with Celtic, they brought it on themselves.

     

     

    They said our titles won after their demise were tainted, we said who tainted them?

     

     

    Rangers have only themselves to blame.

     

     

    Yet in the immediate aftermath of their death we sold 30 million pounds worth of players, so even though Lenny had brought us to two UCL qualifications back to back, we ended up a far weaker team and lost out in the UCL to Clubs a fraction of our size.

     

     

    Ange has shown what real ambition can achieve, playing football the Glasgow Celtic way, it should always have been so…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  5. CHAIRBHOY on 9TH SEPTEMBER 2022 6:22 PM

     

    CELTIC40ME @ 6:09 PM,

     

    Of course not being legally trained this is just my opinion but would be full hardy in the extreme to Sue the Board for the case you laid out.

     

    The Board have professionals in this respect as Executive Directors, NEDs third party advisors.

     

    Were the BBC misleading us.!?

     

    Celtic have announced a share offer designed to raise £15m to fund their new football academy and reduce the football club’s debts. Major shareholder Dermot Desmond will underwrite the issue to £10m but insists he does not wish to take outright control of the Glasgow club.

     

    Once again, I doubt it very much, it would have been their take on the share issue and if you complained I’m sure they would justify their report.

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

    …………….

     

     

    Shares for ordinary share holders amount to fridge magnet certificate souvenir’s.

     

    The extra ordinary business end level of shareholders are continuing to deny OSH`s the promise that Fergus made in 1994 that when he left in 5 years the club would belong to the fans??

     

    The fans today are as much in control of Celtic as they were during the Kelly’s and White’s era.

     

    Now there`s a new set of families, Desmond`s and Lawwells.

     

    The keys to losening that `occupation` of CFC are straightforward.

     

     

    1. Drain the club of finances till the share price becomes `zero` meaning that the PLC will have failed the club by pissing off its customer base, so PLC must do the honourable thing and resign, but as the PLC are anything but honourable, that won’t happen.

     

     

    2. Those supporters who claim to love Celtic will be tested by, option 1, do they stand in the car park waving bits of cardbord criticizing the PLC board, or do they send out the message, LOUD AND CLEAR, that no dodgy crooks will theive CFC from its supporter base??

     

     

    So supporters kick down the front door, invade the premises, remove every and any executive who’ve meekly, and sleekitly, signed off on this carnage whilst trousering fortunes££££ of Celtic fans money, march these frauds along London Rd whilst under citizens arrest nd throw the crooks into the River Clyde, then announce a takeover of Celtic FC by real Tim supporters, run the club from season ticket money, player sales money, CL/EL/EC tournament monies, sponsorship monies, just like it is run today, minus the overpaid PLC fatcats.

     

    Simple.

     

    If you don’t believe that crookedness is going on at Celtic then get over yourselves, go to Sentinel Celts and ask for, THE LIONS ROAR, and he’ll articulate the state of Celtic`s finances to you.

     

    Why do I suggest TLR?

     

    Because SFTB hides fom TLR, and doesn’t appear on SC until he’s received the text from SC telling him that TLR`s name has been put through a filter by BMCUWP, then when challenged about said filter BMCUWP will deny all knowledge of `filters` after having spent days bragging about these `filters` to his toothless clique which he deliberately surrounds himself by, on `free` SC. Eye.

     

    Or keep paying your muggers to retain Old Firm games?

  6. ScullyBhoy

     

     

    I agree with your sentiment about not embarrassing Celtic at this time.

     

     

    I do believe though that we should be able to discuss what the monarchy is and what it represents.

     

     

    Taken from the James Connolly society.

     

     

    Fellow-Workers,

     

     

    As you are aware from reading the daily and weekly newspapers, we are about to be blessed with a visit from King George V.

     

     

    Knowing from previous experience of Royal Visits, as well as from the Coronation orgies of the past few weeks, that the occasion will be utilised to make propaganda on behalf of royalty and aristocracy against the oncoming forces of democracy and National freedom, we desire to place before you some few reasons why you should unanimously refuse to countenance this visit, or to recognise it by your presence at its attendant processions or demonstrations. We appeal to you as workers, speaking to workers, whether your work be that of the brain or of the hand – manual or mental toil – it is of you and your children we are thinking; it is your cause we wish to safeguard and foster.

     

     

    The future of the working class requires that all political and social positions should be open to all men and women; that all privileges of birth or wealth be abolished, and that every man or woman born into this land should have an equal opportunity to attain to the proudest position in the land. The Socialist demands that the only birthright necessary to qualify for public office should be the birthright of our common humanity.

     

     

    Believing as we do that there is nothing on earth more sacred than humanity, we deny all allegiance to this institution of royalty, and hence we can only regard the visit of the King as adding fresh fuel to the fire of hatred with which we regard the plundering institutions of which he is the representative. Let the capitalist and landlord class flock to exalt him; he is theirs; in him they see embodied the idea of caste and class; they glorify him and exalt his importance that they might familiarise the public mind with the conception of political inequality, knowing well that a people mentally poisoned by the adulation of royalty can never attain to that spirit of self-reliant democracy necessary for the attainment of social freedom. The mind accustomed to political kings can easily be reconciled to social kings – capitalist kings of the workshop, the mill, the railway, the ships and the docks. Thus coronation and king’s visits are by our astute neversleeping masters made into huge Imperialist propagandist campaigns in favour of political and social schemes against democracy. But if our masters and rulers are sleepless in their schemes against us, so we, rebels against their rule, must never sleep in our appeal to our fellows to maintain as publicly our belief in the dignity of our class – in the ultimate sovereignty of those who labour.

     

     

    What is monarchy? From whence does it derive its sanction? What has been its gift to humanity? Monarchy is a survival of the tyranny imposed by the hand of greed and treachery upon the human race in the darkest and most ignorant days of our history. It derives its only sanction from the sword of the marauder, and the helplessness of the producer, and its gifts to humanity are unknown, save as they can be measured in the pernicious examples of triumphant and shameless iniquities.

     

     

    Every class in society save royalty, and especially British royalty, has through some of its members contributed something to the elevation of the race. But neither in science, nor in art, nor in literature, nor in exploration, nor in mechanical invention, nor in humanising of laws, nor in any sphere of human activity has a representative of British royalty helped forward the moral, intellectual or material improvement of mankind. But that royal family has opposed every forward move, fought every reform, persecuted every patriot, and intrigued against every good cause. Slandering every friend of the people, it has befriended every oppressor. Eulogised today by misguided clerics, it has been notorious in history for the revolting nature of its crimes. Murder, treachery, adultery, incest, theft, perjury – every crime known to man has been committed by some one or other of the race of monarchs from whom King George is proud to trace his descent.

     

     

    “His blood

     

    Has crept through scoundrels since the flood.”

     

     

    We will not blame him for the crimes of his ancestors if he relinquishes the royal rights of his ancestors; but as long as he claims their rights, by virtue of descent, then, by virtue of descent, he must shoulder the responsibility for their crimes.

     

     

    Fellow-workers, stand by the dignity of your class. All these parading royalties, all this insolent aristocracy, all these grovelling, dirt-eating capitalist traitors, all these are but signs of disease in any social state – diseases which a royal visit brings to a head and spews in all its nastiness before our horrified eyes. But as the recognition of the disease is the first stage towards its cure, so that we may rid our social state of its political and social diseases, we must recognise the elements of corruption. Hence, in bringing them all together and exposing their unity, even a royal visit may help us to understand and understanding, help us to know how to destroy the royal, aristocratic and capitalistic classes who live upon our labour. Their workshops, their lands, their mills, their factories, their ships, their railways must be voted into our hands who alone use them, public ownership must take the place of capitalist ownership, social democracy replace political and social inequality, the sovereignty of labour must supersede and destroy the sovereignty of birth and the monarchy of capitalism.

     

     

    Ours be the task to enlighten the ignorant among our class, to dissipate and destroy the political and social superstitions of the enslaved masses and to hasten the coming day when, in the words of Joseph Brenan, the fearless patriot of ’48, all the world will maintain

     

     

    “The Right Divine of Labour

     

    To be first of earthly things;

     

    That the Thinker and the Worker

     

    Are Manhood’s only Kings.”

  7. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Brilliant work by the Guardian.

     

     

    Can’t beat a free press to shine a light in dark corners and provide much needed transparency in a timely fashion.

     

     

    The legal intervention in question took place in late 1973.

     

     

    The story was published more than 47 years later.

     

     

    Perhaps the time is right to make a new deal with the new king.

     

     

    Public funding to be linked directly to the publication of last wills and testaments?

     

     

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/24/britains-royals-used-obscure-legal-procedure-to-hide-distant-relatives-wills

  8. 67 ECW

     

     

    The point is not Paul who has read the room wrong it is the football authorities.

     

     

    Even the BBC were expressing this tonight.

     

     

    Every other sport has done what the royal intent was and is playing on respectfully.

     

     

    Only the clowns leading these sports who want to be seen to be grieving appropriately and who jumped the gun have cancelled as they misread what was asked for.

  9. DALRIADABHOY on 9TH SEPTEMBER 2022 7:37 PM

     

     

     

    Who would James Connolly have more scorn for, the Queen or The Great Desmondo?

  10. Tony Benn on why Charlie doesn’t want us to be educated.

     

     

    That is what the Prince of Wales meant when he warned that education was threatening this hierarchy by raising expectations among his future subjects which could lead to them becoming too confident, even questioning why he should be king and why they should be required to bow and scrape to everyone above them in the social system.

     

     

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2004/nov/24/monarchy.politics

  11. bournesouprecipe on

    ECW 67

     

     

    Hope you’re well.

     

     

    Celtic being a non denominational club doesn’t suit the British mantra, they want Celtic to be irked at the mourning of a Royal who can’t / won’t ever be a Kafflik.

     

     

    Being above comment in Scotland and squeaky clean isn’t however possible ‘ coughing during a minutes silence ‘ was picked up as actually happening at Taig FC. That’s the way a portion of the population see Celtic, when various heads of the Catholic Church have passed, respect wasn’t on the agenda.

     

     

    Celtic FC headed them off at the pass with a statement, that will never satisfy the bigots, in the fag end of society that exists, but headed off they were IMO. The board will be relieved that the Livi game is cancelled, why Sevco don’t seem to have to ‘tip toe’ ever, is another matter.

  12. Ernie you know as well as i do that James Connolly would have despised Dermot Desmond but would have been a little more contemptuous of the British Monarch given what that monarchy represents.

     

     

    Ernie in last blog you stated that Charlie being a hypocrite on the environment was irrelevant as Charlie raised awareness of green issues.

     

     

    I put it to you that this is just Public Relations from Jimmy Saville’s friend, the man whose flunkeys take millions of pounds into a bank in carrier bags and the charity commission says nothing to see hear.

     

    It should have been the Fraud Squad investigating this.

  13. Who will take on Charlie’s roll in selling weapons throughout the world now?

     

     

    The arms industry will be sad if he isn’t replaced with a salesman of like quality.

     

     

    Will Charlie becoming king mean that another country overtakes us and becomes the Worlds second biggest exporter of arms and ammunition?

     

     

    “Charles’ visits tend to whitewash the Middle Eastern monarchies’ human rights abuses, often coinciding with repression of opposition activists or the media.He plays a key role in cementing UK relations with key allies, acting as a de facto high-level salesman for British arms exports and promoting military cooperation.While the palace emphasises his cultural visits, Charles’ meetings are often with senior military, intelligence and internal security officials.Charles is also the patron of the UK intelligence agencies.

     

     

    Research by Declassified has found that Prince Charles held 95 meetings with ruling families in the Middle Eastern monarchies since pro-democracy protests threatened their power in the uprisings of a decade ago.

     

     

    Charles’ diplomacy in the region, which comes at the request of the Foreign Office, has helped to cement controversial UK alliances with undemocratic regimes and promoted £14.5-billion worth of arms expo”

     

     

    https://twitter.com/declassifiedUK/status/1568232000447811584?t=PA1b5uYPTpIwQE6rkBbRtA&s=19

  14. lets all do the huddle on

    yip,

     

     

    the horse racing in the uk was off today and is off tomorrow but is back on sunday

     

     

    so why has 2 days been deemed the appropriate level of cancellation?

     

     

    why not 1 day? or 3 days so cover all weekend?

     

     

    just ramdom number generation

     

     

    and from a sport the queen loved so would probably have wanted it to go ahead

  15. I’m trying my hardest to find a single day in my life when Celtic were not there to be shot at.

     

    I’m with James Forrest on this one.

     

    There is no moral high ground to take for the immoral c*nts who will take any opportunity to have a kick at Celtic.

     

    The very idea of monarchy is immoral & abhorrent. A feckin joke.

     

    I was impressed by her speech in Dublin right enough but she gave a GIRFUY to all when choose Andrew to walk with her during the memorial for Nik The Greek.

  16. DalriadaBhoy on 9th September 2022 7:37 pm

     

     

    ScullyBhoy

     

    I agree with your sentiment about not embarrassing Celtic at this time.

     

    I do believe though that we should be able to discuss what the monarchy is and what it represents.

     

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    OMG I couldnt agree more. I just wanted to move the blog to a different topic. The non-supporting Celtic supporters have taken over the site. Sack the Bored, empty Celtic Park, empty Hamdump, dont put a penny into Celtic, dont put a penny into Scottish football etc. Why now? Why when Celtic are flying? Obviously, they dont want Celtic to succeed. Celtic failing is essential to their philosophy. We all can see it. They are so apparent. So I suggest a flounce, or a boycott as they would call it. As a practising Catholic, I respect all life. All death is a loss, but some are manipulating it to suit their agenda.

     

     

    Name the 3 bhoys.

     

     

    https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8b/c9/ac/8bc9acc85ae668c6e14c17fa1e14f142.jpg

     

     

    Then again, I must watch a film with my good wife. All loss hurts.

     

    Good night, my friend.

     

     

    HH

  17. bigrailroadblues on

    GFTB, you are selected for the team in my opinion. But Thelurkintim may need to pass a fitness test. He’s going tonto tonight. 🤣🤣

  18. 67 European Cup Winners on

    BURNLEY78 on 9TH SEPTEMBER 2022 7:40 PM

     

    We agree on football authorities – possibly motivated by chasing a Knighthood !!

     

     

    But “Play on” had connotations beyond innocence

     

     

    All good in love and war as long as our beloved Celtic are not dragged into some political anti queen debate Im happy

     

     

    Hail Hail my friend

     

     

    67ECW

  19. 67 European Cup Winners on

    BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 9TH SEPTEMBER 2022 7:56 PM

     

    Very well put and yep I concur

     

     

    Celtic tip toed perfectly today – CQN on the other hand could have been a little more diplomatic IMHO

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    67ECW

  20. BRRB…I’ve had my cortizone injection and am able to at least come off the bench, boss 🤣🤣

     

     

    H.H.

  21. 67ECW…CQN is a sociatal black mirror…and if you don’t know what that means….turn ter telly off and look into it 🤣

     

     

    H.H.

  22. BRRB 8.14pm

     

     

    Delighted, going to try and test my fitness this weekend and already got an early louse fae that pesky work next Friday

     

     

    TLT 8.19pm

     

     

    Cortisone … no need for performing enhancing drugs, the only race is usually who gets the next round in :-)

  23. Big Jimmy has been obviously absent since Lizzy passed…hope he’s ok 😂

     

     

    InferenceCSC

     

     

    H.H.

  24. Evening all.

     

     

    After much deliberation, factoring in this weeks events, we have come to the conclusion that despite OF fc getting ragdolled twice, we have decided that the Shipbank Shipwrecks will indeed play their away fixture next Friday. 16th Sept to a very strong Vulcan side.

     

     

    Anyone requiring extra training prior to kick off (1pm) contact BRRB. :)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Brian.

  25. TLT 8.31pm

     

     

    My fitness to the bar has never been in question :-)

     

     

    Sadly, it was more prominent than on the fitba park

  26. Belmontbrian…am gonna be Spock…wondering who’s gonna be T’Pol 😂

     

     

    Look forward to it mate

     

     

    H.H.

  27. I hear the rangers are in talks with uefa to postpone Tuesday game.

     

     

    Apparently ‘as it stands’ the game will go ahead at the appointed time and date.

     

     

    In other words rangers leadership wanted to create another perceived injustice. Against them and their crown etc. A diversion from their troubles. In telling them where to go will see them galvanise. They are however simply not good enough. Hoping Napoli demonstrate this comprehensively on Tuesday.

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