When even Jim Farry blocked a royal postponement

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25 years ago, Scotland were due to play a World Cup qualification game against Belarus on the day of Princess Diana’s funeral.  The SFA, then run by chief exec Jim Farry, the same man who was eventually removed from office for delaying Celtic’s registration of Jorge Cadete, decided the game should proceed as planned.

Whatever you think of Farry, he acted without concern for the royalist contingent.  Despite the SFA’s offices being vandalised and Scottish Secretary, Donald Dewer, applying political pressure, Farry dug in:   ”We have taken heed of the various viewpoints, but let’s be reasonable about this, life does and must go on.”

He did not act alone, the SFA International Committee were involved, and they included Celtic’s Jack McGinn, and the Greatest Football Administrator the world has ever known, Campbell Ogilvie!  This was a strange time in Britain, maybe the strangest few weeks of the last century.

Royalists were split between backers of the self-styled Queen of Hearts (honestly), and those in the minority, who sided with the actual Queen.  The Queen, a bit like Farry, held out as long as she could against the indulgent wallowing infecting millions, by resisting calls to lower flags to half-mast.

Before the end of the week, royal flags were lowered and the Scotland game was postponed.  Those of us who never took an interest in royalty were often heard saying “Let’s be reasonable about this”, but were largely ignored.

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  1. Saint Stivs

     

     

    Never been to Warsaw. Going with my son who has been but even he hasn’t spent a lot of time there. It should be an interesting trip aside from the football.

     

     

    GFTB

     

     

    I was in Ekeren too. A funny wee Stadium in an area of the town like Shawlands or Bishopbriggs but loads of Celtic presence. Like you I really enjoyed it. It was the first time I met with any St Pauli fans at that game. Also rare for us to get a result in Europe in those days.

     

     

    Do you remember a huge big cake 🍰 that they brought onto the pitch and cut up ? Their owner was owned a bakery.

     

     

    Great memories when euro games were so rare.

  2. Bada bing.

     

     

    I loved Viz.

     

    Especially going on a foreign holiday flight. Sit and read that missus annoyed at my childish laughing.

     

     

    I will dig up some letters page bumpers tomorrow.

     

     

    I am reminded though of this great advert.

     

     

    Are you a gullible football supporter missing your team that went into liquidation because it cheated its social taxes paid players off the books and conspired with referees to win trophies.

     

    Want that history back ? Want to pretend your 150 years old ?

     

     

    Call me the Yorkshire man with the big hands.

     

     

    Call me honest Charlie green

  3. Burnley78 11.54pm

     

     

    100% .. the birthday cake was surreal, was it their centenary ???

     

     

    Obviously still in the stadium after the final whistle the Celtic fans were applauding the Ekeren players as well as our own … Mikey Galloway, Brian ONeill & co

     

     

    It’s a terrific memory for me … some bhoys get strippers for their 21st … I got my one and only (so far) away trip

     

     

    Ekeren to me … Oh Mikey Mikey, Mikey Mikey Galloway

     

     

    Happy days … who needs Celtic to win to enjoy Celtic

  4. Terrible of me. But.

     

     

    How does a rangers supporting grandfather explain to the wee Billie’s that Brenda really has gone away.

  5. I have very few pictures with Celtic players. Even when I have easy access I don’t impinge on them.

     

     

    I do have a nice pic with Mickey Galloway. Just at the carpet. Inside the door. Jack mcginn in the Background . Me 24 or so. Mike was lovely fella before his troubles.

  6. Callum MacGregor was excellent on Wednesday, in amongst some of the best midfielders in the game

     

     

    Callum is so vital to our team

  7. St Stivs 12.14am

     

     

    Guys like Mike Galloway, Pat McGinlay, Tosh McKinlay, Tommy Coyne … loved them all

     

     

    Many more and hopefully more to come

     

     

    Tommy Coyne at CQN11 .. asked a question

     

     

    What was your highlight ?

     

     

    Scoring against Rangers

     

     

    What was your lowlight (I paraphrase)

     

     

    Not scoring more against them

  8. Not enuff bacon Spikeysauldman, no black pudding, no lorne sausages, no potato scones….you’re barred from breakfast

     

     

    H.H.

  9. Brassed off

     

     

    A replacement film on one of the TV schedules cos of everything that’s getting replaced.

     

     

    Brilliant film.

     

     

    Powerful still.

  10. Brassed Off

     

     

    Pete Postelwaite ?

     

     

    schemes with not much money or job opportunities

     

     

    Was this film not in the 1980s or 90s

     

     

    The more things change the more they stay the same

  11. Gftb.

     

    Watching it again.

     

     

    I think Pete got lots of awards.

     

     

    Ewan McGregor break through film ?

     

     

    Tara Fitzgerald my goodness a beautiful performance.

     

     

    But.

     

     

    Stephen Tomlinson. Wow. In retrospect incredible

  12. Brassed off…

     

    Me and the moderator….you know what you,’ve done

     

    Me…trying to understand why you’re a c*nt

     

     

    Am done

  13. GGH 1.08am

     

     

    I actually forgot he played that part ..

     

     

    He appears on many many films … probably more than we realise

     

     

    St Stivs

     

     

    Ewan McGregor is an actor … his character in Transporting is every good guy & bad guy I grew up with … it was that thin of a line (if you pardon the pun)

  14. I know for an actual fact the Drugs don’t work..

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsgVzIinICI

     

     

    All the jibber jabber is to open your mind, to what?

     

     

    I wish I’d never taken wan drug.

     

     

    The Livi game should not have been postponed, likewise Most games in Scotland, If Newco and others that revere the Passing of (IMO a Great peacemaker) thats their business. Somehow I don’t think there is a portrait of the Pope in the Celtic dressing room. Cringe City.

     

     

    I Hope all that are going to Warsaw NJOI Celtic’s next performance – its gonnae be Good.

     

     

    I think, after Shakhtar’s incredible result in Germany allied with the way Celtic were so unlucky not to be ahead before Real took control, Carlo is right this Group is gonnae be giving so many shocks.

     

     

    I honestly think we would have went in 2-0 to the good if Cal’s (he has been Sensational for years now – its ridiculous for Anyone to say he hasn’t been) shot had went in.

     

     

    We are talkin’ the finest of Margins at the Highest level of the game.

  15. petec

     

     

    The price of being a modern day tennis fan. 9.48 in NYC and young Alcarez is leading 4-0 in the 3rd, one set all. Maybe, just maybe we will benefit from not playing Livingstone tomorrow, extra rest after Real, and the opportunity to fire on all cylinders in Poland midweek. Might help us get the result we need, draw minimum, a win, and we are in business. Ye gotta have faith in the land of John Paul II…..

  16. Celtic Mac,

     

     

    We are All Truly Blessed to hear Great Comments frae yer Good self, TontineTim and Gordon on CQN.

     

     

    Lizzie was a nice Person. She was put in the Worst Job, IMHO.

     

     

    Those behind the throne/ those behind the curtains.. GRRRRRRRRR

     

     

     

    I don’t deal with anyone dying well.

  17. Hello again all you young rebels.

     

     

    37 years ago today our greatest ever manager passed away, now that

     

    we don’t have a game tonight, probably because of the sycophantic

     

    erselickers looking for a gong I’ll spend my evening looking back at

     

    all the old vids of the magnificent Lisbon Lions.

     

    I consider myself so fortunate to have watched those bhoys through the

     

    years, and then the blessed Martin’s team, and now we have big Ange

     

    and although it’s different times with the multi billion buyers like

     

    REAL, PSG, MAN CITY, et al im getting the same feeling I got all those

     

    years back when Jock took the reins.

     

    Maybe the end result won’t be the same because of the ability these

     

    dirty money clubs have to buy their way to European glory, but I’m

     

    certainly going to enjoy the ride with my big antipodean brother.

     

    H.H Mick

     

    P.s nice to see your o.k Quadro and back posting 👍

  18. For those of us who want to live as citizens of a free republic of Scotland, what takes place today outlined below is the formidable forces we face

     

     

     

    10am: Charles is proclaimed King at the Accession Council in the state apartments of St James’s Palace. This will be attended by his son William, whose new title is the Prince of Wales.

     

     

    Others in attendance at the ceremony, which will be televised for the first time, will include privy councillors and government ministers and possibly former ministers, prime ministers and senior clergy.

     

     

    Afterwards, the King will hold his first privy council – the UK’s oldest working legislative assembly – accompanied by Camilla and William and will make his personal declaration about the Queen’s death and take an oath to preserve the Church of Scotland.

     

     

    11am: Charles is proclaimed sovereign. The Principal Proclamation is read from the balcony at St James’s Palace overlooking Friary Court. The ceremony is usually accompanied by a fanfare from the balcony and simultaneous gun salutes at Hyde Park and the Tower of London.

     

     

    Noon: A second proclamation will be made at the Royal Exchange in the City of London (further proclamations will be made on Sunday in Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales).

     

     

    2pm: Senior MPs expected to swear an oath of allegiance to the new King, with condolences continuing in parliament until 10pm. All MPs will have the opportunity to take the oath when parliament returns after the 10 days of national mourning, but it is not a formal requirement.

     

     

    aff oot to gie all above a miss

  19. A wee question ? who gets awe queenies money ?

     

    Will wee Andy get some to pay of his court debts ?

     

    Is Mheegan due some ? just for being there.

     

    And what about Camilla, she’s hung about for quite

     

    a while.

     

    Then again, her graciousness might have donated all

     

    her billions to the UK homeless, the Health System,

     

    maybe even help out the government with the

     

    national debt ?

     

    No ??? me neither 🤣

     

    H.H. Mick

  20. King Charles inherits not just the throne after the death of his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, but also her private fortune — without having to pay inheritance tax.

     

    British monarchs are not required to reveal their private finances but according to the Sunday Times Rich List 2022, the queen was worth some £370 million ($426 million), up £5 million on the previous year.

     

     

    The bulk of the late sovereign’s personal wealth will pass to Charles intact, without the British government getting a slice.

     

     

    The real royal wealth — the Crown Estate lands and the Royal Collection of art and jewellery, plus official residences and the Royal Archives — is held by the monarchy as an institution.

     

     

    As such, they will only pass to Charles in trust.

     

     

    Similarly, The Crown Jewels, estimated to be worth at least £3 billion, only belonged symbolically to the queen and are automatically transferred to her successor.

     

    The queen’s private wealth will be added to Charles’ own, which has been estimated at some $100 million by the site celebritynetworth.com.

     

     

    In comparison, Elizabeth’s late husband, Prince Philip, left a more modest estate worth £10 million, including an art collection of some 3,000 works, most of which were given to family and friends, the Sunday Times reported.

     

     

    A court in 2021 ordered his will to be sealed for 90 years.

     

     

    As king, Charles inherits the Duchy of Lancaster, a private estate of commercial, agricultural and residential assets owned by royalty since the Middle Ages.

     

    The monarch is entitled to use its income and largely uses it to meet official expenditure. In the financial year 2021-22, it delivered a net surplus of £24.0 million.

     

     

    On the other hand, Charles will lose the Duchy of Cornwall, another private estate, in southwest England. It brought in a revenue surplus of some £23 million in 2021-22.

     

     

    The duchy, created in 1337 by Edward III for his son and heir, prince Edward, will go to Charles’ eldest son, Prince William, who is now heir to the throne.

     

     

    Charles will also receive the annual Sovereign Grant from the UK Treasury, which is set at 15 percent of the profits from the Crown Estate, and which the monarch surrenders to the government under a deal dating back to 1760.

     

    The Sovereign Grant covers costs of official engagements for the monarch and other senior members of the royal family, paying the salaries of their staff and the upkeep of royal palaces.

     

     

    In 2021-22, it was set at £86.3 million — equivalent to £1.29 per person in the UK — and included funding for the renovation of Buckingham Palace.

     

     

    The Crown Estate’s portfolio includes commercial and retail properties, including prime locations in central London, as well as rural and coastal land across the country, and the waters around England and Wales.

     

    That makes it one of Europe’s biggest property empires, with a huge commercial interest in areas such as developing offshore wind power generation.

     

     

    In the financial year to March 2022, it posted a net revenue profit of £312.7 million, up from £269.3 million in 2020-21.

     

     

    Inheritance tax in Britain is charged at 40 percent on estates above a £325,000 threshold.

     

     

    But the new king will not pay inheritance tax on the personal wealth he will inherit from his mother due to rules drawn up in 1993.

     

     

    Those assets passed from one sovereign, or a consort of a sovereign, to the next monarch, are exempt.

     

     

    The rules were drawn up to avoid wiping out the royals’ private wealth in the event that a series of monarchs died in quick succession and their estate was reduced by 40 percent every time.

     

    The rules, set out in a 2013 government memorandum of understanding, also ensure the monarch has his or her own private money and thus financial independence from the state.

  21. LIONROARS67/FOURSTONECOPPI

     

     

    Thanks for that ghuys, looks like the homeless, the sick

     

    and all the rest of her graciousnesses subjects can do one.

     

    Who’d a thunk it 🤣

     

    H.H. Mick

  22. Saint Stivs

     

    Re Viz.

     

    This was one of my favourites in the Letters Page:

     

     

    ” I don`t know why people spend thousands on personalised number plates. It is so much easier just to change your name.

     

    Your sincerely,

     

    N543 LRK.

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