A journalist, banned by Celtic, attacked the club in the Daily Record today, suggesting the SFA chief exec Stuart Regan should have told Peter Lawwell to ‘wind his neck in’ and ‘remind him of his duty to the game’ after he wrote asking for clarification after Sunday’s game.
The hyperbole was raised to the extent the notion “Lawwell dragged our game back into a very dark place – somewhere dangerously close to disrepute” was put into hundreds of thousands of hands today.
A dark place, close to disrepute? For writing a letter asking for clarification? Sounds to me like the know the trouble Peter Lawwell is causing to the vested interests at Hampden and they want him stopped.
By remarkable coincidence, this happens to be the same journo who wrote the puff piece for SFA president, Campbell ‘What school did you go to?’ Ogilvie for writing to Uefa demanding a referee was demoted (while circumventing due process) and asking for a player to be banned.
No mention of winding a neck in or duty to the game for a vastly farther reaching letter.
The same paper gives a platform to Barry ‘EBT’ Ferguson to level wholly inaccurate accusations against Celtic:
“By questioning the reasoning behind [the failure to award a penalty]in the name of their supporters, they were nodding towards all manner of hoary old conspiracy theories.”
Conspiracy you say, Barry? Who mentioned conspiracy? An explanation that the standard of refereeing is not good enough and that having 6 officials at Hampden hindered good decision making didn’t occur to you?
Some people are quick to deny conspiracies when a far less controversial response is available.
A concerted campaign has run for days now to ensure that Celtic cannot ask questions without being demonised. When the media demonise those who question authority we are in a very dark place indeed.
This is intolerable. It would not happen in England, where the breadth of media is wide enough to escape narrow seams of authority. It doesn’t matter if it is the government, the Church, the police, big business or sport, if media collaborate with power, you have problems.
Some of it comes from people perhaps bitter that Celtic called them out and banned them, some from those unable to find perspective or consistency between writing about a Campbell Ogilvie letter and a Peter Lawwell letter. All of them are time-served opinion formers who make money from Celtic’s actions.
We are the last superpower in the game, survivors in the battle of the ages. This antagonism isn’t going away. Not until their grandchildren are in place, anyway.
Clubs need to write letters when improvement is needed. I hear estimates that income to Celtic from winning the Scottish Cup would have been in the region of £1m. Football is big business and processes and resources need to as good as they possibly can be. If they are not, the very least you can do is ask for improvement.
On Meekings appeal yesterday….
The player’s appeal was right to be upheld, the case should never have been put before the SFA panel in the first place. The referee Steven McLean saw the incident. That was not disputed. He asked his assistant for his opinion. That was not disputed either.
Meekings representatives pointed out at the hearing that officials are not allowed to re-referee a game after watching TV. This is a central tenant of the game and was accepted by the judicial panel.
Retrospective action is only allowed for incidents which referees did not see. It is not permitted for referees to reconsider an incident he saw. It is blindingly embarrassing to our game that the SFA didn’t know the rules well enough before taking this action. I hear there was incredulity at Celtic when they heard Meekings was banned in the first place.
…… and you wonder why Celtic write letters.
Last call for the Ben Nevis Huddle……..
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Greensideup-gbwo
Commented on Facebook to a Hibee about an article he posted regarding Josh Meekings.
I said it was not his fault but the match officials.
I got a torrent of abuse from a lot of Hibees and a twat of a Cowdenbeath/aka sevconion saying dry your green tinted eyes/glasses etc,get on with it etc.All the other supporters will not back us.We are on our own.
The Hibs supporters will know what it feels like to get cheated in the run up to and including the play-offs.HH
Green side up
Pardon my “Really?”
I post regularly here posts from the Scottish Football Monitor that has managed to get supporters of other clubs engaged to one degree or another.
Because of club rivalry it is difficult to get supporters to act in unison but there is more that joins us all than separates us.
There are practical reasons, than can be overcome, for lack of unity but in the absence of any finished mechanism to provide it I recommend SFM as the place to argue the case for SFA reform.
the_huddle-ta for reply,as SP and others have been saying,hire a professional lipreader,either the SFA to back their men,or by Celtic to sack them.HH
79 Caps…. I think the answer will be that Boerrigter did not contest the charges. The question is who advised him not to contest them.
mike in toronto
Fair point. In future, then, Celtic must always contest a retrospective ban after this new precedent has been set.
Greemsideup.
Brill!!
Knowed some CQNer wd come up with summitt!! Nice wee leather number too!! 0-0!!
Siesta time zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
In a bizarre way the big losers in this controversy could be Sevco. The cabal will know they are under scrutiny they may have to back off cheating Sevco into promotion.
Siesta time for me a naw
Sianara.
Zico
This is the 2nd time you have mentioned it. It is clearly bothering you so I think they are just winding you up now. Don;t bite!
LB
corkcelt
That would be a good shout if the people we are dealing with had any shame at all:((
Been off for a few days just catching up with McLeangate, shocking state of affairs..
Cover-Up CSC
Hello again all you young rebels.
Well, a few days have passed now and even here in Oz the anger
is still palpable, what a complete shambles the SFA have made of
this now, we know not to expect any favourable reports from the
media regarding anything Celtic, but when supposed Journalists
with Celtic leanings and i apply that term loosely make these false
and outrageous accusations against our club what does it matter
if things will get worse for us regarding newspaper reporting, as i
see it it’s nothing to do with investigating journalism but just shet
stirring to instigate more trouble for our club and try to stimulate
sales of the paper.
Now Keevins is the epitome of that type of journalism and i’m sure
every one of us would like to be standing beside him when he writes
that type of claptrap , i know the typewriter would end up lodged in
his mouth but when you think about it he’s actually very clever, why?
because he’s got us all talking about him and it’s keeping him in a job.
Makes you think doesn’t it ?
H.H Mick
Tom McLaughlin
Condolences to all your family, on the passing of your mother.
PeteC, unfortunately I have no influence where we can play.
Frankly anywhere.
I can see we are taken as fools, they have no regard for supporters in general, and Celtic in particular.
There is no duplicity to which they will not stoop.
Why does anyone want to play cheats?
Not matter how many times we win, they will come back. Now if that were in a sporting manner, fair play, but it isn’t!
The SPFL have, in the form of Doncaster, said that a club can be liquidated and still be the same club!!!!!!!!!!!!
A blank cheque to bankrupt the game, right there with that statement, and no-one questioned it in an official capacity, not our board, nor that of any other club. It is sickening.
If the clubs won’t organise themselves and sort out the organisations that rule our game(they never will), then I would far rather play in another league.
Tom McLaughlin
Sorry to hear of your mothers passing Tom
god bless her
H.H Mick
The way the vitriol has poured out from the likes of Scoop Jackson this week, and the way Celtic have been vilified despite being the wronged party, the more im convinced that the gigs up for the handshake brigade at the SFA…
Looks to me like teh balance of power is shifting at the sfa and certain folk dont like it…
Hi Paul67,
In the last 24 hours of so I have read so much nonsense regarding Josh Meekings’ ban and subsequent acquittal. Thank goodness we can rely on CQN to furnish us with the facts – Cheers!
celtic mac @ 14:19,
“Yesterday afternoon the BBC, Roddy Forsyth and Chris McLaughlin, both on Radio 5, specifically used the phrase “honest mistake” in relation to the Judicial Panel’ decision re Josh Meekings. The STV report suggests something totally different regarding the rationale for the JP decision. Curiouser and curiouser”
It’s the BBC guys having a little joke at our expense.
Do you know if they tried that with England’s National game, they would soon have a sense of humour failure.
Hail Hail
Zico
If it makes you feel any better the Jambos are much worse!
http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/151412-celtic-fans-are-a-big-part-of-the-problem/
LB
The meeja stepping up their abuse of our club.
its no as if they tell some porkies,compare and contrast then and now.
http://itsanewclub.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/not-new-club-then-by-retroscot-140.html
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wee Bazza husnae been the same since one o them statues at Bothwell bridge fell on him whilst he was fighting with it.
What has John Brown been saying out the side of his mouth?.
:-)
HH
Zico,
I do not go near that facebook thingy, it is too easy to for some to be nasty through that sort of medium, having said that every support has their element, but we live and hope
Auldheid,
always appreciate direction and your posts. Regards the SFM, I have partaken in its pages a few time, but will certainly try and be more frequent a visitor
Jude,
I thought that particular ditty was apropos, cheers
HH all
gsu
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
14:16 on 24 April, 2015
From the Judicial Panel’s statement:
“The panel considered that as the incident (but not the actual alleged sending-off offence of handball) had been seen by one or more of the officials it was not entitled to consider the matter further.”
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So why were they able to ban Derk Boerrigrer for diving.
The ref saw that incident – he gave a penalty!
jaggytooth … they weren’t cheated out of a treble this week …WE WERE. They are in full cover-up mode. How can that possibly suggest that anything has changed?
If the balance of power had shifted, Celtic would have been able to say McLean is not impartial, and should not be appointed to ref our games. …but, instead, Celtic is victimized during the game (by the cheating) and afterwards (by being painted as the bad guy) . seems like business as usual… plus ca change!
Personally think Keith Jackson should receive an award from us, his contributions in helping make Celtic so superior, are off the radar.
was on RM today … I dont enjoy reading it nearly as much at the moment …. they think they are going to get one over on MA …. might have to stop reading it until (i) they dont get promoted, or (ii) MA brings the hammer down on them. Then it will be fun again.
does that make me a bad person?
Got to laugh.
There is still some who think the Celtic PLC board will stand up to their Bretheren in the SFA.
Aye
HowOldIsYoureGranny CSC
Doc,
What you say is the Truth.
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“The SPFL have, in the form of Doncaster, said that a club can be liquidated and still be the same club!!!!!!!!!!!!
A blank cheque to bankrupt the game, right there with that statement, and no-one questioned it in an official capacity, not our board, nor that of any other club. It is sickening.”
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It is the Celtic Support that can reform this place. I have Faith in the Celtic Support.
Mike
Im very aware of what happened at Hampden and who was cheated, i was at the feckin game!
Im looking between the lines and wondering why we (Lawwell in particular) are getting made out to be public enemy number one in this case. Also, Scoop is attacking the sfa in a way he hasnt before….
Which im sure hasnt got anything to do with the imminent retiral of EBT Ogilvie…..
“The panel considered that as the incident (but not the actual alleged sending-off offence of handball) had been seen by one or more of the officials it was not entitled to consider the matter further. ”
We were told the reason that the compliance officer raised a complaint was that the incident was completely missed by the ref and/or assistant refs. Maybe what they mean is that they saw it, but failed to mention it in the match report. Which takes us all back to the first question that EVERYBODY including the press etc called out – how can all those officials look at the incident and see nothing wrong? It beggars belief that none of them thought it either a clear handball or at least an incident worth mentioning in the match report. Someone needs to be sacked.
Jude
13 46
Jabba ballantyne mcinnes the sun journalist seen drinking in a pub in airdrie
Last Friday.fact.HH
Chairbhoy
15:24 on
24 April, 2015
Hi Paul67,
In the last 24 hours of so I have read so much nonsense regarding Josh Meekings’ ban and subsequent acquittal. Thank goodness we can rely on CQN to furnish us with the facts – Cheers!
celtic mac @ 14:19,
“Yesterday afternoon the BBC, Roddy Forsyth and Chris McLaughlin, both on Radio 5, specifically used the phrase “honest mistake” in relation to the Judicial Panel’ decision re Josh Meekings. The STV report suggests something totally different regarding the rationale for the JP decision. Curiouser and curiouser”
It’s the BBC guys having a little joke at our expense.
Do you know if they tried that with England’s National game, they would soon have a sense of humour failure.
Hail Hail
They know fine well what they are doing Chairbhoy,in my opinion they are at the wind up using language like that.The problem is so called news organisations are now just a forum for a variety of tosh to be thrown up by the likes of Traynor and his PR5(4) nonsense.Hence the drying up of tales from the cheat has dried up-not the case when you have a compliant meeja here,now they are manufacturing opinion after Sunday to solely obfuscate and and create a dust storm.
It is a problem when 18th century club rules govern 21stcentury football with its money.
:-)
HH
The consent they try to manufacture flies in the face of what our eyes tell us,
79caps 14:49
Apologies – didn’t see your post when I posted same!
jaggytooth … was not intended as a shot at you. Apologies if it came across that way.
just my frustration at the lack of leadership at our club …. we had the chance to really make a difference … it would have been messy, and difficult, for sure…. but the last few seasons were probably the best chance we will ever have to really make a difference, and those in charge of Celtic seem more concerned about protecting their bonuses than taling the fight on…. so, I’m frustrated for sure … but not at you.
Peace
an tearmann
I’m assuming that you are a Chomsky fan …. have you seen these? I’ve ordered a few for the garden. Love them!
http://www.justsaygnome.net/gnome-chomsky-i—additional-views.html
Ghuys I have said on here do not buy or read the DR or the Sun feckin ersewipes the both of them.HH
Don’t slag The Sun. Sure, John Hartson and the Queen of Celtic hearts writes for it.
I once bumped into said journalist in the supermarket.
We were having a good debate when he said “Let me introduce you to my wife and sister.”
To my amazement I was looking at one woman!
Ba-rum-bum toosh
@IGCeltic
frannyb67
Disagree. I have a gander at them at times like this. If you want to know where your village idiot gets their opinion it’s usually the Sports editor of either or both of these comics and calling them out on it usually ends the debate.
These newspapers, Sky Sports & the BBC tell people what they wnat them to believe and after hearing it numerous times they believe it themselves. It’s always wise to know what the eejits are printing because your local village idiot will be spouting the same thing within days of it being read to him.
LB
And the Rebel journalist, don’t forget the Rebel journalist.
DoubleStandardsCSC
HH
KTF
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