Back in 1994, when our day of greatest need arrived, Celtic fans had already invested years in developing a recovery strategy in case the club faced extinction. A disparate group of “rebels” filtered out good ideas from bad, established a platform for recovery and ensured that when the hour came, one man was ready and able to walk into a branch of Bank of Scotland and deposit a large sum of money into Celtic’s account, while others rallied support and prepared for the recovery.
Those rebels eventually went their own ways as many of those who stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Fergus McCann found allies in conflict didn’t make for friends in peacetime, but the rebels were united long enough to Save our Celts. Without their preparation, Celtic would have quickly gone into administration and who knows where thereafter.
Compare and contrast with Rangers in their hour of need. There is no preparation, no consensus of the willing, not even an acceptance that this is, in fact, an hour of need.
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Lennybhoy…Supporting Neil Lennon and CFC until I die says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:52
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:47
If things are as bad as they seem or reported, will there be anything left to resurrect…
Keep the Faith!
……………………………………………….
I bloody well hope not! :-)
I do want a competitive league, though but not with them in it. Someone revived memories of the 1980s last night with a strong New Firm and both Edinburgh teams improving. That would be great as far as I’m concerned and would make the SPL more attractive and keep us sharp for Europe.
I can but dream. However, I know nothing about financial wheeling and dealing and the negative effects of gate share (only a proportion) for us.
let’s be under no illusion here, the newco will be allowed right back in, however a severe penalty will be placed upon them, this would put off players they were trying to sign, they will never properly recover from this,
Glasgow Road says:
Great post, the huns have been the shackle round the neck of Scottish Football for years, free from that shackle perhaps the game could flourish again perhaps not, one thing is for sure it can’t get much worse than it is now.
They have created this chaos and it’s their mess to clean up.Good luck with that!!
This could be the greatest opportunity for the reform of Scottish Football and the leveling of the playing field.
The people who run the game could also be implicated in this mess as the story unfolds as the great man once said…
” Follow the Money”
SP
WireCSC
I can see another “phantom bid” being reported by Jim White tonight, this time a bid from Rangers for Holt.
A cheeky 10.59pm £5m bid rejected by those peskie canaries.
“Damn! Oh well, at least we know the Record story isn’t true as we wouldn’t be bidding for £5m players if it was. A hunner ‘n’ ten perct behind Mr Whyte”
ernie lynch says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:12
Sorry bud… aint gonna be able to give this discussion the time it deserves… my laptop battery is going… will be on agian later. A gamble. Celtic would indeed go bust if we resigned.
Sky Sports: Jelavic undergoing medical, (reason for delay is that he’s been in the right area but he keeps pi$$ing on the curtains).
His representatives are currently discussing terms: £45 000 per week and every Saturday off.(c) T Docherty.
hamiltontim says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:55
You not working today…
Right back to the grind, got a meeting…
Until we meet again…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Folly Folly says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:41
thomthethim at 13:37
It’s a dangerous game, is all I can say …
FF
****
The greater the danger, the greater the reward!:>)
THIS:
http://i41.tinypic.com/1zz249f.jpg
AND THIS:
http://i44.tinypic.com/711jy8.jpg
AND ALSO THIS:
http://i43.tinypic.com/29xyxi1.jpg
AND ULTIMATELY, THIS!:
http://i41.tinypic.com/wsq68.jpg
Rangers’ Media Partners have had to re-do their sop article saying the Ticketus arrangement pre-dated Whyte due to some pesky internet bampots
hamiltontim says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:58
He threatened to resign over a point of principle.
There’s no difference.
Only time.
And the integrity of the peole involved.
Kostas Manolas?
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy, we need to arrive at that point with the moral arguments prepared.
ernie lynch, Bob Kelly had the backing of the other league clubs, including Rangers, who quickly made him SFA general secretary. This is why he won his point. He never threatened/offered to walk Celtic off a plank.
Messi in Manchester. Nearly 4 years on and the hun destruction is still being cleaned up apparently.
Just to say that Amadeus is beavering away on the morra’s story – so far, so nothing.
CQN – tomorrow’s news today!
rt rev david hay says:
31 January, 2012 at 14:04
Everton had bid accepted, Big Sammys agent was plugging the fact that he felt Celtic should be looking at him.
20 year old CB from AEK Athens, contract ends at the end of the season.
Don’t feel that we need them………
Certainly don’t want them……..
Don’t think though, that they are going away!
They and their cohorts have acted with impunity, and a measure of support, throughout!
To paraphrase TET, beware their influence at the highest level in this country and beyond…………..
Sounds pessimistic, aye for sure………..Would love to be wrong on this; really!
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Sandman Is Neil Lennon says:
31 January, 2012 at 14:01
Somewhere today the Wee Man with the Bunnet will be smiling quietly to himself..
God Bless you Fergus..
GlasgowRoad 13:52
Bravo that man, excellent post you deserve a beer
Hail Hail
btw are they gone yet?????????
Glasgow Road ——-
Dundee United /Roma.
Yes —— Roma gave the Ref £50 k via a guy at Genoa FC who was a mate of the Referee.
When the story broke in Italy -those ” Fair Play ” chaps at UEFA did zilch.
Kraljski
he sounds like the man(olas) for us then.
Ο Κώστας Μανωλάς, που αγαπά την Σέλτικ, μισεί τα αποβράσματα.
Πεθαίνοντας να συνεργαστεί με τον Neil Lennon για το Τσάμπιονς Λιγκ επίθεση την επόμενη σεζόν.
Ranjurs will be in the SPL after insolvency, Keef Jackson proclaimed it on talksport.
Keef says the other Spl clubs will vote them in because they need the Sky money,or
words to that effect. Given the accuracy of Keefs more recent predictions I would
conclude they will be in the third division next season. If Keef is correct then Celtic PLC
need to be looking for an exit strategy and leave them to it.
hamiltontim:
So you think the other clubs in this league would back Rangers over us?
And you base that on what?
If we stand up over the point of principle, if we fight for the integrity of the league, if we fight to see that the rules – the sodding RULES – are applied as written, and we are not asking for much, only that the rules be FOLLOWED, and we make this stand in polar opposite to a club which had defrauded the revenue, bankrupt itself chasing trophies, and in the process bankrupt half of Scottish football ….
…. you are saying they will back THAT rather than our own club, who have been run professionally, who has observed the rules, who has respected the integrity of the league and is fighting for its reputation?
If that’s the case then sod them. I mean it. Sod the lot of it. Roll out the lawyers and force open the door to England. I know – I know for sure – that there are people inside Celtic Park who fancy our chances in a courtroom.
We must show no weakness, which means taking NOTHING off the table.
dirty mac @ 13:07 – so Rangers make bad decision = Celtic make good decision ? Not really sure what you are getting at there.
dirtymac @ 13:09 – football is not the business ? really ?
no need to bother replying, I’ve tried to have a sensible debate with you and find some common ground, but if you think Celtic are not in the business of football, then I’m wasting my time. I can go elsewhere to be spoken down to and patronised and I’m sure someone else will be along for you to display your intelligence and knowledge to very soon.
DontPatmadug says:
31 January, 2012 at 14:09
‘Ranjurs will be in the SPL after insolvency, Keef Jackson proclaimed it on talksport.’
I think he’s right.
Paul67 – Your points are always well made. As things stand, with all you know, with everything that is in the public domain and can be commented on, do you believe that Rangers in some form or another will be in the SPL and our main rival next season and the seasons to come? Just your opinion, I appreciate that it is a fluid situation and things could change tomorrow.
rt rev david hay says:
31 January, 2012 at 14:09
Hahahahaha I’m sure the auld Holy Goalie song could go with that lol
BBC Scotland’s Jane Lewis: “#Dunfermline almost there in bid to sign Jordan MacMillian from #Rangers on a one-and-a-half-year deal. #bbcsportsound”
cardiffbhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 14:11
I clearly stated that football was the driving business, but not the overall business.
And at no point did I state that Rangers bad decisions = Celtic good decisions.
Do you just make up what you read?
is jamie mackie any good?
Paul67,
It’s me again.
I have posted often on Celtic’s position.
I have repeatedly described it as a dilemma, and it is.
Obviously, we don’t want to put ourselves out of business and your argument is logical.
However, how far can we compromise in accepting the will of the nation?
A conclusion that Scottish society demands.
Celtic has it’s own support to consider and the ethos with which we are endowed.
That is the dilemma in which we are placed and I don’t know what a realistic and honourable outcome will be.
Do you?
kraljski
;-)
The “newco straight to SPL” advocators need to reconcile the following:
It is not the legal entity Rangers (1872) FC (whatever their damned name is)
There may be more than one claim to be the “newco Rangers”
None of the prospective owners can have held Board positions at OldCo for the previous 5 years (e.g. Paul Murray, David King)
The TV deal with Sky, allegedly predicated on 4 x Celtic v Old Co Rangers games is dead in any case
If it wears light blue, plays at Ibrox, has Rangers in the name and many of the same players, then potentially distressed creditors have a decent shout of “That’s Rangers! Pay Up”
Newco may have no players
Newco may have no license to play professional football in Scotland
Newco may have no stadium to play in nor training facilities
It costs £3.5 m / month to run a club like Rangers, that’s nearly £40m a year
How long, typically, does it take to liquidate a company of Rangers size, start to end (hours, days, months, years – ballpark)?
Can someone explain to me the mechanics of how, seamlessly, the Newco arises phoenix-like into the SPL with not a heart beat missed?
Puzzled.
HH
TLK
If a new-co is allowed straight back in, then really what is the point. I know a lot of people bash the likes of PL and the board and sometimes it is justified, but I get the feeling every1 is on the same page on this matter!
Just hope its not mis-placed trust!!!
Mon the hoops
I know the SPL are an automonus (spelling) organisation, but every member club must be a member of the SFA, a newco would have to get membership of the SFA before applying for a place in the SPL.
Which Rangers?
Who’s going to pay the mortgage?
Who’s going to fund the bonds/debentures?
Who’s going to pay the tax?
What if Partick Thistle decide that they want a shot in the PL?
Why should Hibs/Dunfermline accept relegation?
Why should Ross County/Falkirk not get a chance in the PL based on merit?
while we are all laughing at the huns i think they are the ones laughing. they are stealing a walk on us here. all over the media just now it is about the players they are after. quality powerful strikers are being mentioned. there is a good chance with the eye for a player mr mccoist has they will get somebody in who can do a job as good as jela. i mean we are talking about the guy who has plucked aluko from anonymousness and turned him into a contender for the player of the year. i have heard now that it looks like they will be getting lovencranz back. this is a premier leeg striker as good as anythign else we have just now. i wont even talk about grant holt who is absolutely top cupboard player wise. where are the press reports about our board backing our manager. what have we done this window. too much laughing at huns and not enough of sorting our own house out. i will remind you lot about this when we are all in the car park. again.
mon the hoops
The Lizard King:
The unanswered questions there, almost in full mate.
Brilliant summary.