Where did it all go wrong for Ronny?

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So where did it all go wrong for Ronny Delia?  First of all, it didn’t all go wrong.  He won two leagues, and if you think it was impossible to lose those, just think back to a team in last season’s Championship, who enjoyed an equally superior income over their competitors, but lost the league to Hearts by the length of the M8.

It was just as possible for Aberdeen to win the league this season or last, as it was Hearts (reeling only months after going into administration) to win the Championship last season.  Ronny delivered the primary requirement each season – the league title, but he failed on the second tier requirement – qualify for the Champions League.

Soon after the Legia Warsaw debacles Ronny reflected on the question about whether it was right to ask his new team to adopt his tactics, instead of waiting until he’d recruited players to fit his system.

Two years on we are still remarkably short of players to play his system.  Innumerable wide midfield players have come and gone, with many still lingering in the stands.  We have an enviable list of creative mids in the squad, yet none have been able to dislodge Stefan Johansen, who by his own admission is having a disappointing season.

Then there’s the striker roles.  Leigh Griffiths has been a significant reason why we’ll be crowned champions again over the next few weeks, but he’s pretty much on his own.  No one has been able to put pressure on him.  For a while Leigh had to wait until John Guidetti and Stefan Scepovic dropped out of the picture, but you’ll struggle to recall this season’s striker arrivals, Carlton Cole and Colin Kazim-Richards, three years from now.

For these reasons, we can say recruitment is where it all went wrong for Ronny.  It’s not about 4-2-3-1, half the top teams in Europe play with that formation, nor is it (the now abandoned) zonal marking system, also the dominant top-level defensive system.

We’ve simply recruited the wrong players for creative midfield and striker positions.  It’s also subtler than to just say we’ve not recruited good enough players.  Some who have escaped Celtic Park after arriving in the last 22 months have done pretty well elsewhere.  Guidetti and Scepovic are La Liga strikers, while Jo Inge Berget also made it to the Bernabeu this season.

None of them are great, but I suspect we made them look poorer than they are.  Kazim-Richards is unlikely to trouble Sergio Ramos next season, but there’s more to him that what we’ve seen, or will see.  We’ve been a place careers diminish disproportionately.

On the positive side, Ronny brought the best out of Leigh Griffiths.  He moved the disintegrating Emilio Izaguirre aside for 18-year-old sensation, Kieran Tierney, (the biggest winner on Sunday).  And he finally resolved some of the least-organised set-piece defending known to man with the recruitment of Erik Sviatchenko (on this point, you cannot over-estimate the value of adding one good player to a team).

One thought crossed my mind several times this season: If he hadn’t spent so much money fruitlessly trying to make one system work, would he have acknowledge he was on the wrong road and changed tactics?

He backed himself into a corner so stuck with the same faltering policy at Celtic, but surely, surely, if he walks into another job soon, unhindered by that wasteful use of budget, he’d not follow the same tactical strategy which failed him?

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  1. traditionalist88 on

    The Green Man says SACK THE Board on 21st April 2016 3:42 pm

     

     

    TRAD88

     

     

    Then what.

     

     

    The Celts prevail of course:)

     

     

    WE WIN:)

     

     

    HH

     

     

    =======

     

     

    And the multitude of posts directed at the club?

     

     

    And the self imposed exile?

  2. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Auld Bertie

     

     

    Get this….and this will really blow your mind.

     

    I can actually work with people…..without having to be in the same room.

     

    How good is that eh.

     

    Star Trek hasnt got a look in.

     

    I feel like some kind of technological pioneer.

     

    Ha Ha….i can be all over the world….sitting right here

     

    In fact…Im master of my universe.

     

    And still got time for a gallus stroll down Maryhill Rd.

     

    How do you like them apples:)

     

     

    HH

  3. South Of Tunis on

    THE GREEN MAN @ 3 41.

     

     

    When Gordon Brown told the House of Commons ( in 1997 ) how proud he was to be delivering New Labour’s First Budget – a wag on the Tory benches shouted – ” mmm – thought the first one was in 1924 “

  4. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    TRAD88

     

     

    I decide what my future will be….not some character with a 19th century vaudville moustache, and his crazed sidekick, Peter the Magnificent.

     

    I will always love Celtic.

     

    The board…ive got nothing but contempt, and im not the only one.

     

     

    HH

  5. Which is better.

     

    The manager signs all the players or the club signs all the players.

     

    Is it better that a club develops an effective scouting and signing policy with some input from a manager or should the manager be solely responsible for signings.

     

    This is a problem for all clubs.

     

    Managers last 3 or 4 years which might be alright if he has left behind a decent group of players. But what if he takes a few with him.

     

    what if he was a crap manager and left behind a load of duds.

  6. Auld Bertie

     

     

    Your specialist was easily pleased being headhunted in Wetherspoons.

     

     

    Cutbacks eh ??????

  7. Sot

     

    I remember when DeCanio signed someone said even by Italian standards he was considered volatile. Still at 50-1?

  8. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    This blog doesn’t seem to have gone down well. Reading the posts it seems others share my view that an analysis of what went wrong isn’t worth the trouble. He plainly wasn’t very good at the basics. People increasingly want to address the real issue, which is “the strategy” and those that are benefitting from it. Everything else – today’s blog included – is a diversion from that.

     

     

    As King Canute (maybe an ancestor of Mr Lawell) eventually discovered, once it turns you can’t hold back the tide.

  9. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    SOT

     

     

    Read Gordon Brown’s book on James Maxton….its a hoot.

     

    Talk about guff…Big Gordon peddles it for a living:)

     

    I would not vote for any of the charlatans…of any party.

     

    Morons…the lot of them:)

     

     

    HH

  10. traditionalist88 on

    The Green Man says SACK THE Board on 21st April 2016 4:09 pm

     

     

    TRAD88

     

     

    I decide what my future will be….not some character with a 19th century vaudville moustache, and his crazed sidekick, Peter the Magnificent.

     

     

    I will always love Celtic.

     

     

    The board…ive got nothing but contempt, and im not the only one.

     

     

    HH

     

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    Interestingly non-committal on the specific scenario given

  11. PETERLATCHFORDSBELLY on 21ST APRIL 2016 4:14 PM

     

     

    Are you obsessed with Peter Lawwell.????

     

     

    I can’t remember a post from yourself without his inclusion.

     

     

    If I remember correctly , did you / family not have a personal interest or connection.

     

     

    If not, my apologies.

     

     

    HH.

  12. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    WEE BOBBY COLLINS

     

     

    HH:)

     

     

    TRAD88

     

     

    Ok then…i will lead an insurrection on SFA headquarters…myself.

     

    Are ye in or not…ya big feartie:)

     

    Bags first custard pie on Bankier:)

     

    Lets do this.

     

     

    HH

  13. CLINK\O/ on 21ST APRIL 2016 4:11 PM

     

    Which is better.

     

     

    The manager signs all the players or the club signs all the players.

     

     

    Director of football or 1st team manager to select transfer targets before a business CEO

  14. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    GREENPINATA

     

     

    Satire…Sarcasm…moaning:)

     

    Sarcastaholic…put my hands up.

     

    The bhoys dont mind slagging me back:)

     

    Cmon…its humour.

     

    Warped…granted…but its my calling card.

     

    Surely you wouldnt want to take that from me:)

     

     

    HH

  15. South Of Tunis on

    SOUKOUS

     

     

    Don’t know..

     

     

    There was a very brief period when somebody somewhere decided that it would be a good idea to have Di Canio as a pundit on Italian Cooncil Tele’s Sunday night Serie A highlights prog.The experiment didnt last long as Paolo proved incapable of accepting anything that anybody said about anything…The only thing missing was him inviting someone to take the discussion outside.

  16. TGM

     

     

    Your custard pies would be better served being donated to the Maryhill Food-bank. :-)

     

     

    HH.

     

     

    PS: did they ever get the scumbag (s) who raided it ?

  17. Ronnie failed because the Celtic board has failed to back and unify the support, OBAF, RES12, the anti Celtic media constantly chipping away eroding faith and confidence among the support, they also failed to protect or inform Ronnie what the landscape is like here for the Celtic manager, the board has failed to set aflame the myth of the same club and it’s history, the board has failed Celtic failed both Lenny and Ronnie and most importantly failed us. They should be the lightning rod for us to rally around proudly but the have hopelessly failed at that too.

     

    As for the players well done, you managed to get your manager sacked and turn Celtic park into a library of bored onlookers you should be ashamed to pick up your wages from these supporters.

     

     

    Hail Hail.

  18. New management team Jay Beatty and hoopy the hound

     

     

    Jay is very sad that Ronny is leaving and does not understand why but as always he has his own ideas…really had no answer for this…lol

     

    Jay….”Daddy who will be the new manager, should I go for it”

     

    Me…..”Don’t think you should”

     

    Jay…..”Why”

     

    Me…..”Because you didn’t get it the last time you applied”

     

    Jay…..”Mummy said that’s because you were going to be my assistant and you can’t manage to do the dishes properly never mind manage Celtic”

     

    Me…”So it’s my fault you didn’t get the job, so who is your Assistant this time”

     

    Jay…”Hoopy he has it all going for him”

  19. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    GREENPINATA

     

     

    That scumbag will be served his just desserts.

     

    Maryhill is angry about that.

     

    I wouldnt like to be in his shoes when they get him.

     

    Mobile guillotine will come creaking down Maryhill rd….glinting in the sun.

     

    Justice.

     

    BTW…have you noticed that when im gripped by writer’s blog….i can crack some amount of gags:)

     

    Honestly….that one i cracked about PL and the Happy Mondays….Frankie Boyle would have got a new car out of that one:)

     

     

    HH

  20. its hard to listen for years to these guys on here, who hate the boardetc, seems mainly because the guys ob the board have done something with their life’s but heyho, telling everyone the manager has no say in signings..then when the manager confirms what most of us knew, that he makes the decisions, which btw is along with the scouts , who look at players in areas He, our manager has told them to find..ie a forward..midfielder but he signs the players ! They know try to spin that…lool.. that guy in the cave in spain or somewhere, in particular knew how it worked.. think someone told him this..lol. jeez oh.. if RD denied he was the messiah they’d say..see only the messiah would deny being the messiah..ha

  21. traditionalist88 on

    The Green Man says SACK THE Board on 21st April 2016 4:21 pm

     

     

    Now that’d be interesting:)

  22. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    LIONROARS67

     

     

    Love that bhoy.

     

    Thats what its all about.

     

     

    HH

  23. theglasgowcelticway on

    Aberdeen have given us a very good challenge over the last two seasons this is down to their improvement not Celtic moving backwards,however,under Ronny we are moving backwards.

     

     

    I’m an optimist so feel we’ll appoint the right man on this occasion pushing us further ahead.

     

     

    Good to see SSN reporting that Steve Evans has said ” If Celtic offer him the job and Leeds offer a contract he’ll choose Leeds.”

     

     

    See my optimism isn’t unfounded after all.

  24. theglasgowcelticway on

    LIONSROAR67

     

     

    Need to get out for a few beers again,been a while,HT can organise. If there’s a pub quiz involved we’ll want a bit of input regarding our team members this time.

  25. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Well bhoys…time i was off.

     

    Ive got to explain the world to some ancient professor….Professor Lilolman.

     

    Laters bhoys….and if im not on the new board, theres something far wrong:)

     

    Kevj…fly that Green flag high

     

    The rebels are coming.

     

     

    I love you all.

     

    Except for that Mr Pastry:)

     

    Pastry…Im kidding:)

     

     

    HH

  26. THEGLASGOWCELTICWAY on 21ST APRIL 2016 4:40 PM

     

    LIONSROAR67

     

     

     

    Need to get out for a few beers again,been a while,HT can organise. If there’s a pub quiz involved we’ll want a bit of input regarding our team members this time.

     

     

    HT busy with new career debating with politicans :-))))) looking forward to catching up for a few beers soon HH

  27. Go tell the Spartim on

    Whomever they appoint are on a hiding to nothing if he doesnt win every game he plays 4 nil, playing scintillating football then he’ll be classed a dud with no tactical nous/lost the respect of the players/weak manager/inability to change/(this is my favourite) only plays 1 up front.

     

     

    When TRFC dont mount a challenge its because Warbs needs time/gradual process/the right players arent available – blah de blah de blah

     

     

    The SMSM guff thats going on just now is them merely planting the seed to say that so and so wont come etc, Chris McLaughlin, being one of the first off the mark, when Moyes isnt appointed he’ll be bleating about he didnt want the job and so it begins.

     

     

    The dye has been cast in many celtic “fans” already.

     

     

    What chance has the guy got and he’s probably not even been approached yet

  28. Geordie Munro on

    “Aberdeen have given us a very good challenge over the last two seasons this is down to their improvement not Celtic moving backwards,however,under Ronny we are moving backwards.”

     

     

    Tgcw,

     

     

    Eh??

     

     

    HH

  29. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Another germane question-

     

     

    Is that a weisswurst in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me?

  30. saltires en sevilla on

    Paul67

     

     

    League is not won yet! A fair bit to do with the same guys??

     

     

    Awkward silences for another few weeks, on the stairs, canteen, in the lift, car park, water cooler.. Not fair on anyone TBH When decision is made to go manAger should be away from CP Then appoint a caretaker (Lenny? In to drag the team and their sorry buts across the line)

     

     

    The ‘ I said yes’ to every player comment seems stifled and contrived- all the hallmarks of one off those ‘two envelopes’ conversations…

     

     

    Not buying that mince and our resident cave dweller hits the nail on the head:

     

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    THE EXILED TIM on 21ST APRIL 2016 2:08 PM

     

    Ask yourself this.

     

     

    If Ronny or Lenny for that matter signed all them players………

     

     

    Why didn’t they play them ?

     

     

    –//–//–//–//

     

     

    Amen

  31. Moyes seems to be holding out for better offers. Roy Keane would be my choice outside Moyes. Keane wouldn’t be anyones stooge and would put a rocket up the backside of players that have coasted for years.

  32. An Teach Solais on

    GO TELL THE SPARTIM

     

     

    Excellent post. Spot on. Some of the stuff posted on here today has been stomach churning devoid of any of the qualities associated with Celtic fans

     

    Of the past.

     

    One earlier today revealed visceral hatred of Ronny Deila who, since his resignation has shown more class (and indignity, yes, I know!!) than some on here. The one thing as suggesting that he could go back to Norway as a school janitor showed a lack of compassion – apart from anything else we have janitors as supporters and it is an important job. Allied to that RD is

     

    a qualified teacher and could probably find a post.

     

    The guy tried his best and it is not just his own failings that has prevented progress. “Cast the mote out of your own eye first” would be fitting for

     

    others both inside and outside of Celtic Parh IMO. HH

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