How do you find out that a footballer is betting on the game? They don’t walk into bookies and hand a slip over at the counter, this stuff is all done on smartphones or by telephone.
Betting information is protected by the Data Protection Act, the SFA have no authority to ask and bookmakers have no authority to tell, even if they know a player is breaking SFA rules.
Even if a player sits in the dressing room, and announces that he’s just bet on the match about to take place, and all his team-mates reported him, he would be able to dismiss the charge on the basis that his comments were a joke. No one could prove otherwise.
But, very specific charges are levelled at players.
The betting industry survives on the quality of their information being better than that of their customers. “Are you likely to win at the weekend?”, “Any inside info on who the new manager will be?”, “Who’s struggling to be fit for Saturday (and therefore unlikely to be first scorer)?”
If you are a player, you have the inside line on a market worth hundreds of millions each year. Football has an unhealthy relationship with bookmakers, at some clubs, the betting partner has their own lounge and has full access to the players’ lounge. Many players are big gamblers and some have big incomes. They are both significant clients for bookies and potential sources of inside information. Like many big gamblers, they are offered special odds, not available to the general public.
Let me tell you one way of catching a player who is gambling on football. He is tempted away from his old bookie to one who has become friendly with, possibly after giving his former bookie a bum steer on a striker who was supposed to be injured. The former bookie then ‘discovers’ that the name on one of their accounts doesn’t match the name on the linked bank account, and that this account holder is a footballer.
The bookie is now officially concerned that illegal match fixing is going on. With the possibility of criminality (even if it is without basis), they can alert the authorities. That would teach the player a lesson for leaving, while making money through advantageous odds and feeding bum information back, and destroy whatever competitive advantage the other bookie has.
Does anyone know of any other way a specific charge of gambling on football could be raised?
Maybe the players are all just daft laddies. Maybe the SFA decline to release reports into players gambling because there is nothing to see in them. Maybe you can break the rules on betting but not be punished because it’s a silly rule.
You don’t need to be match fixing to be involved in serious criminality when dealing with a bookmaker. The football watching public need transparency from the SFA on this issue, no matter how much money floods into the game from the gambling industry.
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petec
Roses on the headphones.
See you in Belfast amigo.
HH
Gigantic people hail from these Blessed pages. Natural Giants.
ACGR
Sounds like a plan. The other two are for PeteC and junior.
Talking of brothers, has anyone seen or heard of the brothers grimm recently?
Maggie Doll
Morrissey23
Awe Naw
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Probably made off to a pacific island with the royalties from “crisis time” after anaw getting that gig wi KTel.
I urge everyone, even if they ain’t going to the game next week, to watch the game.
The quick 1 touch fitba will negate the neanderthals hack anything that moves policy.
Just ENJOY
Mikael Lustig is 25/1 for 1st goal tomorrow and 500/1 for a hat- trick.
Best wishes, Beram Kayal at Brighton
Happy birthday WInning Captains
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles, good evening to you too sir. Yep that’s the one, evil stuff if not drunk in moderation. I was in Leiden at the end of the summer for my daughter’s graduation and partook of copious amounts of duvel. Now that’s a fine fine beer. Finished the grad night off in a coffee shop with the whole acgr family. But that’s another story.
How you doing? And, more importantly, how’s the young un?
HH bruv
DD,
:)) V good.
I’ve a question: why do I never see UFOs when suffering from the DTs?
Just gruesome horrors that make Saw IV look like a Tom and Jerry cartoon.
I’ve never been worried about ugly lizard aliens hiding under my bed, or hovering outside my bedroom window.
But one eyed jizz monsters?!? FFS, why won’t these feckers leave me alone >:((
FLC,
King of New York. Cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=Uilg4osWvzI&x-yt-cl=84503534
re the FLC, I knew there was a song that always stood out for me from them.. Cool as feck band.
Could never remember the name of the song though :)))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=1AVTjHlRiP4&x-yt-cl=84503534
BGX
You’re right about LNS. An absolute travesty.
PeteC, I’ve no intention of being anywhere near next week’s game but will watch in the expectation that we will hammer, hump and humiliate the new hun abomination with some finesse and style. Trying to talk young acgr into coming home to watch it with me. A sing song on my own jist isnay the same:-)
FFM – I’m the only conspiracy theorist in the village)
01:10 on 24 January, 2015
DD,
:)) V good.
I’ve a question: why do I never see UFOs when suffering from the DTs?
Just gruesome horrors that make Saw IV look like a Tom and Jerry cartoon.
I’ve never been worried about ugly lizard aliens hiding under my bed, or hovering outside my bedroom window.
But one eyed jizz monsters?!? FFS, why won’t these feckers leave me alone >:((
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It is easy Marchisio, Just think, you dinnae even huv tae say, that Jesus Died to take away the Sins of the World.
Love won’t tear us apart. ;))
nakasammi, been quaffing any fine drams recently?
FFM
Haha. I always thought it was ‘Stick em up Punk’ and Cypress Hill sang it! :)
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
01:14 on 24 January, 2015
PeteC, I’ve no intention of being anywhere near next week’s game but will watch in the expectation that we will hammer, hump and humiliate the new hun abomination with some finesse and style. Trying to talk young acgr into coming home to watch it with me. A sing song on my own jist isnay the same:-)
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It will be good to see the mad acgr, again, and I actually think you might be a bit more bonkers than me, a lot more sensible though.
It is a weekend, so we will see. :))
PartyPeople
ACGR, yes I am well versed in the qualities of Duvel. Better the Duvel you know, I can even tell you when I had my first Duvel. It was in Gronigen in October/November 1983. I was visiting a mate who stayed in Assen at the time and I missed the 5-0 game v Sporting Lisbon :-(
FFM, I was laughing at the last line of your post at 01.10 there and it made me think about double entendre’s and why I’m not keen on them. In fact I was conversing with my Indian colleague Rammitin Bawdeep about this very subject just last week.
Good night timland and may god bless yo all
Feck 6 hrs to catch the bus to see the famous Glasgow Celtic.
HH
nakasammi
01:08 on 24 January, 2015
Mikael Lustig is 25/1 for 1st goal tomorrow and 500/1 for a hat- trick.
Best wishes, Beram Kayal at Brighton
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Best wishes also to Beram, he downed tools at a Celtic game and never got it back. I really wanted him to get it back.
I’m Mr Mistake and I hope Beram goes on to realise that his Time at Celtic was the making of him.
Butsy
GNGB
Safe journey bud! Enjoy.
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
01:20 on 24 January, 2015
ACGR, yes I am well versed in the qualities of Duvel. Better the Duvel you know, I can even tell you when I had my first Duvel. It was in Gronigen in October/November 1983. I was visiting a mate who stayed in Assen at the time and I missed the 5-0 game v Sporting Lisbon :-(
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My favourite game.
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles, first time I tried duvel was in a bar in Knokke with a squad of young Norwegian guys I was working with. None of us had tried it before and we went for the gap.
We were sat at a big table and after about six or eight rounds one of the guys got up to to the cludgie and collapsed within his first couple of steps . He was ok, just not from the waist down. We all quickly learned that drinking duvel and walking were two unrelated activities.
Strange how I have no comments on my earlier post.
An alternative view I know, while I’m on for a quick read back.
I see Celtic Foundation have donated 10k to the FR game on Sunday, three points from me and I’m making these points as Ive been thinking them now and surprised nobody has made the same points:
1. The last Sevco 2012 managed to lose all the takings from the last charity game, I’m unsure if there’s been any criminal charges but why should we feed this horrible Sectarian monster.
2. Fernando Ricksen is going through a terrible illness and it’s right that the rangers supporters who watched him play for their team go and support him with their money on Sunday.
We support our charitable causes and they support theirs, did we receive any donations for say Kano eg from the Gers? Not to my knowledge?
3. Some of their scum have been posting vile and ignorant comments today regarding our donation, the usual stuff.
The 3 points above are enough collectively for me to think we should have kept our hard earned Celtic charity money for a more appropriate cause.
Anybody on here that knows me will understand that this post wasn’t easy for me, but it had to be said.
Hx2
petec @ 01:14,
HH my friend.
It’s true, even as an agnostic, or whatever, when I’ve had the worse DT’s, a wee prayer has always given me a good night’s sleep – which is the one thing you can’t get after a week of boozing!
Not one for selfish prayers myself, but I suspect there’s a bit more to it than that.
Petec, it may surprise you to know that I’m actually the most sensible, quiet and and mellow member of my group of siblings. PC67 is an outpatient of Carstairs and they only let him out because they thought posting on CQN was good therapy for his particular condition. He’s at his happiest in a rubber room and is under strict doctors orders to be in bed no later than midnight.
So there ye have it.
ACGR, I’m not too bad thanks and will probably be back permanently in Scotia in the next
12 – 18 months. The young fella is doing Engineering at Dundee Uni and finding it a bit of a struggle but most kids do in their first year.
DD/ ACGR,
Can I just stress, there was no intentional innuendo in my expression of concerns.
You clearly don’t understand how haunted I am by the one eyed jizz monster.
It’s a big creepy b@stard what creeps out from under my bed when I’m trying to sleep during the DTs. Not nice.
My point, which you have both clearly missed, is that there are no aliens involved. That’s all.
Vmhan, I missed your earlier post. I’ve been following the thread on hunmedia today since the Celtic donation was announced and some of the comments are obviously coming frm sick and tortured people. However, one or two posts in that thread do display thanks and gratitude towards Celtic for the gesture.
You need to be thick skinned to read that trash though. Six pages of it now.
HH bruv, hope you’re well.
FFM – I’m the only conspiracy theorist in the village)
01:32 on 24 January, 2015
petec @ 01:14,
HH my friend.
It’s true, even as an agnostic, or whatever, when I’ve had the worse DT’s, a wee prayer has always given me a good night’s sleep – which is the one thing you can’t get after a week of boozing!
Not one for selfish prayers myself, but I suspect there’s a bit more to it than that.
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I think you might be onto something there, Scooby Snax.
I had a decision to make last week, I’d already decided I was going to watch a film, the film choices were the Flintstones or Cheap Thrills, when I seen Freddie driving through a picket line, I decided to watch CT.
Those without Money are Dogs, certainly not in my eyes, the way the Money Couple manipulated friends to Murder is sickening, profound though.
Vmhan,
I know you enough from here to know you wouldn’t make this point lightly.
I share your thoughts on it completely.
We should have given the money directly to the MND foundation.
This money will be scooped up by Sevco, with enough given to FR to keep him schtum.
It’s good to see the Celtic Board promoting charity, always, but this one seems a bit hot-headed and not thought out.
Totally agree with you. And all my best to Fernando Ricksen, and all others suffering from the disease, and those caring for them.
ACGR, I remember when I used to buy these out of Makro in Hillington – the Big Bad Boy Duvel 750ml, without the fancy box may I add:
http://www.beergiftsbelgium.be/media/catalog/product/cache/3/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/3/6/362stk_2.jpg
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
01:34 on 24 January, 2015
Petec, it may surprise you to know that I’m actually the most sensible, quiet and and mellow member of my group of siblings. PC67 is an outpatient of Carstairs and they only let him out because they thought posting on CQN was good therapy for his particular condition. He’s at his happiest in a rubber room and is under strict doctors orders to be in bed no later than midnight.
So there ye have it.
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michelle
OOH i could crush a grape
Are the team lines not out yet?
What do you mean it’s not near kick off yet. It will be by the time I waken up.
Night the noo….
G’night fellow Tims, sweet dreams.
ACGR @ 01:34,
It might surprise you to hear this, but I lived for some time in Carstairs.
If you or your brother Pedro had actually stayed in the hospital, away from the psychopaths that lived in the Village and Junction, then you would have my respect :)