Huge result from the SFA Judicial Panel Tribunal tonight, absolutely enormous, perhaps the biggest decision ever made in Scottish football history. Rangers have been banned from signing players over 18-years-old, for a period of 12 months and fined £160k.
For months Scottish football has lived under some huge moral questions; would the combined forces of TV contracts, the Bank of Scotland and the formidable Rangers lobby combine to subvert the meritocratic spirit of sport and see rules written to see Rangers kept afloat.
The SFA Judicial Panel Tribunal made these questions moot. In the event that Rangers fail to agree a CVA with creditors and emerge as a Newco, and IF that Newco is allowed to inherit the SPL share given up by Rangers, the Newco will be unable to sign any players of 18 years or older.
Although the SPL and SFA are able to transfer Rangers league share to a Newco, player employment contracts are with the current company, so players would not be contracted to any new company. An SPL Newco would need to compete with 16 and 17-year-olds.
Conversely, there is nothing to stop a new football club, Rangers United, for example, sharing Firhill and applying to the Scottish Football League, from signing players of any age. A new football club like this would inherit no financial or football punishment from Rangers FC. Anyone aspiring to fill the gap left by Rangers would do well to navigate their plans in this direction.
In fact, scrub that first sentence, this is the biggest decision ever made in Scottish football history, no perhaps about it.
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Tiny Tim,
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Hail hail.
Just one point, the SFA have not hammered the huns! An INDEPENDENT commision have hammmered the huns. The SFA are washing their hands of the sentences.
SERGE 0938
NAW!
As has been said before,if the trophy is tainted,we will polish it.
Of course,there may not be any metal polish left in Glasgow,D&P must surely have used it all on their collective brass neck.
greenjedi on 24 April, 2012 at 09:46 said:
Wrong:
a bit like walking away they dont do washing.
LiviBhoy on 24 April, 2012 at 09:15 said:
If their fans appear to lean our way then we may get some new supporters if Cowdenbeath do become some sort of Frankenstein Rangers.
I’m just a couple of miles from Cowdenbeath, trust me, none of their fans will have leanings towards us, Cowdenbeath is the Larkhall of Fife.
Oh, what a wonderful day this is, jelly and ice cream all round
Bobby M @9.31
Thank you.
JJ
if they do go down the buying another club route then we can refer to them as Cowdenbeath (for example) for ever more.
BMCW
on the subject ot tainted titles, does anyone have an inkling as to when the EBT “investigation” is due?
If Roccobhoys around, I believe he was on yesterday asking about watching the Bhoys in Budapest. I was there at the weekend and we went to the Caledonian as they had the game with M’well advertised. However we missed the first 25 minutes as the Man U, Everton game was on (we were not happy). This pub only has one sky box so can only show one game but another pub you might have some luck with is Jack Doyle’s as he can show different games.
TinyTim just caught up after reading back
Condolences to our family
I
KITTOCH,JUNGLE JIM
Nae bother-I’m in trouble wi AWE NAW though for posting a link to it…….
TinyTim on 24 April, 2012 at 04:17 said:
Sincere condolences.
Go raibh suaimhneas siorrai aige.
Árd Macha
our=your
The SFA have grown a pair at last or did Platini have a word in Regan’s ear
read A Lie About My Father by John Burnside for an insight into Cowdenbeath.
kitalba on 24 April, 2012 at 09:06 said:
Why don’t Duff and Phelps insist that all those present, and ex, employees of Rangers FC start paying back their EBT subsidesed loans?
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Because their contracts said they don’t have to pay the money back. Hence the reason they are in the doodoo!!!
Do I understand the message of the rainjurs correctly?
In the past year Craig Why/ite has cheated for the past 20 years and then ran away.
They might not do walking away but they do do flushing away!
How many players might the huns be left with for next season? Next season?? OK. The first question has to be whether they will actually manage to finish this season.
There is probably just about enough cash to limp along to the end of the season. But the way the bidders are going there is no resolution to the ownership issue likely any time soon. Craig Whyte has made it clear he is not going to go easily or quickly. Ticketus still need to be given a deal they can live with. There will be no season ticket money coming in. And the players’ wages will be going back up once more.
And we still need to hear from the gorilla, which is sitting quietly in the corner smiling.
I can’t see an announcement on the big tax case this week. The public order implications of another hammering for the huns before Sunday are immense. But next week? Who knows exactly when but it must be coming soon.
At some stage over the next two weeks the hard question has to be asked. Is it possible for everything to be resolved and a CVA put in place or is liquidation inevitable?And if D&Pdon’t ask it then HMRC will force the issue.
And I think we all know what the answer will be.
Kittoch
Yes. But whilst you were invetigating in true CQN style, I adopted the Lazy Journalism approach and just asked on here!
Divitbhoy.
Interesting. As I said earlier, their fans were like ours and Arbroath`s were more like Them. ” Nobody likes us and we don`t care” kind of stuff whilst the Blue Brazil were doing the Huddle.
Off out now,
JJ
Any news of Twardjik after his stretchering off last night
If they want to try the tenuous argument of Rangers United actually being Rangers 1872 they need the original SFA membership and the SPL share.
The punishment goes with that.
If a NewCo is started every single squad member is entitled to walk away for nothing. So these guys have the choice of walking away and getting a massive signing fee and decent wages elsewhere OR staying with a financially crippled Rangers on a fraction of what they are on just now, and not competing at the level they are at just now. They are struggling to put a bench out just now, never mind when players exercise their rights to leave.
If a brand new Rangers United is started, with no history at all, all sporting sanctions are left behind with the debts. However a sizeable proportion of their sizeably proportioned fans have already indicated that they will not support a NewCo.
What do you do?
It is like being asked if you want to be shot or stabbed…….
CHE
Part of me wants to string the BIG TAX CASE out for,oh,a few more years as their interest is accumulating daily.
On the other hand,why risk it?
Do them now,mak’ siccar.
Stake through the heart by Thursday would be my choice…..
greenjedi,
The “loans” didn’t come from Rangers, they came from the Trustees.
And I’m sure that the letters the players have will give them comfort. You know, the ones they are not supposed to have,
Meanwhile on FF they have their priorities straight.
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bigbluebear74
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ban all away fans from Ibrox, this way we can sing all our old songs without offending anyone, refuse to have any media dealings with anyone other than our own rangers media.
Allegedly Marvin Andrews has given both his contracts to a Journalist.
If even Marvin was on two contracts, its astounding, I thought it was only the big earners
http://www.cowdenbeathfc.com/index.php
Cowdenbeath have a kit of blue tops, white shorts and red socks. Suspiciously like another well known Scottish team.
Their mascot is called bluebell.
http://www.cowdenbeathfc.com/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=19
The club was founded originally as Cowenbeath Rangers.
The club was founded as Cowdenbeath Rangers in June 1880 by James and John Pollock and featured many of their playing colleagues from the Cowdenbeath Albert Cricket Club.
Am I putting two and two together and getting five here?
LB
“For every five pounds Celtic pay to HMRC for their PAYE/NIC and VAT liabilities, I’ll not pay the ten pounds due to Hector from Rangers…”
Craig (Green and) Whyte CSC
If you’re lucky enough to have a ticket for the last Celtic-Rangers game on Sunday, enjoy!
Gordon J
You’d think all thos big rangers men would pay every penny back!
Aye right!!!!
I think the Hun are just begining to think they are not as big as they thought they were but just having a blazer and a pair of brown brogues doesnt get you as far or carry much weight as it once did, there days of being the peepil are over an outdated club that lives with the values of the 1690s will surley perish in a modern day 2012 the day they leave this earth should be a day of rejoicing and for a forward looking scotland to flourish
Van Persie
Footballer of the Year.
Craig Whyte
Chairman of the year.
funny to think that while the SFA meeting was going on the fans of Celtic u19 were signin there merry hearts out just a few metres away
lovely !
I am sure that the panel’s judgement was based on the fact that since Whyte’s takeover they have been run as an insolvent club – only managing to fund their existence by defrauding HRMC.
Bring on the BTC.
And now the end is near………..
Fancy ths year to start a 10 in a row? You can get 6/1 with Paddy Power.
They are also offering bets on when Rangers (“Rangers FC – or the same club that continues under a different name”) will next win the SPL. 2/1 fav is 2017 or later.
Paddy Power SPL Specials
i dont the sfa have went far enough
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Craig Whyte: ” I could not release funds to HMRC if I’d wanted to because the banks froze the accounts”
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Craig Whyte: “Yet again Scottish Football Association is just looking for a scapegoat. I took no part in their process. I gave no documents”
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Craig Whyte: ” going forward of course I need some presence on the board to generate fund to release my guarantee in the club”
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Craig Whyte: “I’ve been made a complete scape goat for the mismanagement of Rangers in the 15 years before I came along”
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Craig Whyte ” I bought Rangers for a pound when it was in a deep mess. I didn’t make it any worse.”
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Absolutely incredible – RFC administrator seriously blaming CW for “bringing Rangers into disrepute”. Thus ignoring the EBT years…
2h We will survive @LouisO8 · Open
@alextomo the tribunal was ONLY about CW era, not EBT’s, you moron
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@LouisO8 wow! Really? I had no idea and you mean EBTs – there’s no apostrophe you un-moron.
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@alextomo He could have been making reference to something pertaining TO an EBT. No, me neither! Just another who can’t take it.
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Remember today how SFA boss told #c4news they took “due diligence” on C Whyte on trust…
2h Larry Malley @Lardo9 · Open
@alextomo This truly is some story. How many tweets will you get blaming you directly for this do you think?
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@alextomo ha ha! I would caution you about your safety on Sunday but the lower order of rfc fan think c4 news is countdown winners roster:-)
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@Lardo9 @alextomo He would loved to be blamed. He is trying to claim credit for it. His SFA/RFC revolving door investigation looks silly now
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Remember today how SFA boss told #c4news they took “due diligence” on C Whyte on trust…
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Craig Whyte to me 2 mins ago: “What a joke – completely farcical”
Whither the cash strapped scrofulous Hillbillies the day?
Morning all,anyone got the link to Billy No,balls Candle in the Wind spoof version? Hail Hail Hebcelt
Henriks Sombrero on 24 April, 2012 at 09:58 said:
Meanwhile on FF they have their priorities straight.
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bigbluebear74
Trialist Join Date: 26-02-2010
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ban all away fans from Ibrox, this way we can sing all our old songs without offending anyone, refuse to have any media dealings with anyone other than our own rangers media.
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They could always play with themselves