We’ve been here several times before. Our first venture into the Champions League play-off round was in 1998 against (then) Croatia Zagreb. Zagreb were clearly the better team but while a 1-0 win in the home leg gave us hope we were outclassed in the return game.
The unforgettable tie against Ajax was next. Celtic’s best away performance in this tournament saw us beat the Dutch champions 1-3 in Amsterdam. Ajax were clearly caught cold and performed infinitely better at Celtic Park, winning 0-1, but Celtic shut up shop to deny them any real chance of progression.
Basel were unknown and un-fancied in 2002 but their movement in central midfield was too much for Celtic, although curiously they only managed to perform for 45 minutes in each game. An away goal defeat blocked our route to the top competition. MTK Budapest were professionally swept aside in 2003.
Who can forget Spartak Moscow? Just as they had done against Ajax, Celtic did the hard work away in the first leg, returning with a 1-1 draw, but incredible dramas unfolded at Celtic Park. Roman Pavluchenko levelled Scott McDonald’s opener but the Russian missed a first half penalty. The game went to extra time and with minutes left a defender punched Scott Brown’s shot off the line. Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink missed with the resulting spot kick setting up a memorable penalty competition.
Vennegoor of Hesselink and Pavluchenko both scored this time as brave efforts from Gary Caldwell, Derek Riordan and Maciej Zurawski, who almost certainly knew he would never kick another ball for Celtic, and a save by Artur Boruc, sent us through. Naka proved that 12 yards is too close a dead ball distance for him.
A favourite Celtic Park memory? You bet.
The adrenaline is pumping already. Bring it on.
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McBhoy
13:18 on 21 August, 2012
Someone mentioned bonuses, I hope our Players are adequately incentivised in the win bonus department to qualify for the CL.
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Depends whether someone thinks it might come out of his bonus,I’m afraid.
I think i just got awe naw all wrong.
That’s it. I’ve been on here too long.
Away to smash my head off the brickwork until I can think straight again.
No need for anyone to tell me I’m an eejit. I feel the pain myself.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Later.
Now that the target is to get,a warchest for anticipation of the increased spending power of Sevco having become financially bolstered by playing through the lucrative Scottish leagues is it safe to say that not only is the buscuit tin back but in a cost saving measure it will also be used to store biscuits in as well not chocolate ones ?
HH
canamalar – so can the same be applied to insurance companies then, rip up the contract it doesnt matter, as long as the insurance companies spend it.
All their lives living off the state, like the queen and her armies
What?
Twice you did the honourable thing and ran away, today I’m told I’ve got homosexual feelings for him and want to marry him, me and assange sitting up a tree kissing.
Look, I’m on your side here.
If you have a shrine in your house devoted to Julian Assange, that’s nobody’s business but yours.
(thumbsup)
up_over_goal – Returning the deficit to zero will not be just a question of waiting for a recovery, because the UK had run a deficit even when our economy enjoyed close to full employment and governments gorged on tax receipts from bubble profits.
The deficit. Oh Lord, am I sick of hearing about the deficit.
It’s like listening to somebody who is oxters-deep in credit card debt boast about how, one day, they’re going to stop increasing the amount of debt they’re in. Big whoop.
The deficit is the tip of the iceberg as far as our problems are concerned.
What’ll really sink us is the debt.
The government has no credible plan to pay it off, and is spending more than even Gordon Brown did during his dribblier, more mentally hilarious final days in the bunker.
Yet we’re currently spending £45 bn a year on interest payments, a figure that is only likely to rise for the foreseeable future.
And they call this austerity. Pfft.
Therefore, it’s a case of massive tax increases or huge cuts in expenditure. The problem is that this is a global downturn, so any cuts in spending or increase in tax (particularly VAT) will push the economy into a double dip recession.
The solution is simple: government needs to live within its means. Unfortunately, millions of people’s livelihoods and prospects for a comfortable dotage depends on fighting this simple truth with every tooth and claw they can muster.
Despite all those, we have the financial markets (whose shortsightedness had created the crisis) bleating on about cutbacks. It is doomed to failure.
Firms make mistakes and sometimes fail. That’s part of how the market works to separate good ideas from bad, efficient models from inefficient ones. But when so many firms make the same sort of mistake at the same time, when so many make the same sort of bad investments, some external force is usually at work.
In the case of Moneygeddon, it was the deliberate inflationary policies of western governments, in particular Alan Greenspan’s post-911 turning on of the credit hose.
Financial markets don’t control the money supply: governments and their proxies in the central banks do. The bubble was made by government policy. (thumbsup)
Helsingborg’s Christoffer Andersson might be one to keep an eye on tonight (if playing). An experienced defender who seems to score and assist quite a bit – probably from set pieces.
http://www.hif.se/Stats.aspx
Surprised to see a few guys who are happy with EL ,rather than CL ?
ernie lynch – And what about those businesses that supply BAE systems?
What about them? (thumbsup)
voguepunter
13:31 on 21 August, 2012
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
A couple of pints and you’re Wolfie Smiff
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Hmmm,jealous of the nightshift worker hitting the pub before the staff turned up?
At least I’m not on record saying that when I win the lottery,my political stance goes oooooooooooot the windae!
philvisreturns
13:55 on
21 August, 2012
‘ernie lynch – And what about those businesses that supply BAE systems?
What about them? (thumbsup)’
Are they A Good Thing?
Or A Bad Thing?
Or A Bad Thing only in respect of that part of their turnover which derives directly or indirectly from the public purse?
awe_naw_no_annoni_oan_anaw_noo
>>>>>>>>>
Man…..I cannot tell you how thick I feel….the only defense I feel is that I read too fast sometimes and totally miss the point because of that. Then I go back and re-read and feel properly dumb.
My biggest failing? Missing the obvious.
Many apologies for diving off the deep end….into an empty pool.
HH!
Steinreignedsupreme
12:36 on
21 August, 2012
Paul 67 –
“The Ajax match has a special place in my heart though as it is the only time I have seen Celtic win away in Europe in over 30 games attended … and we were brilliant that night as well”
STOP GOING ! LOL
Yer a jinx!!
right on queue,
remind me how debates with fascists normally go, thats right, assault the non conformist, divert the debate from the subject to the speaker.
I think Awe_Naw pointed this out just a coup[le of weeks ago.
Their problem with me is I’ve simply strayed fromt their agenda, in fact, I think just calling them exactly what they are is driving it, LYING FASCISTs
I must admit I seem to be missing someone, who would usually be jumping in by now, I expect we’ll see him soon :o)
fascist/communist right/left wing football as an imitation of life?
You can only begin to change something when you change the thing you can control – yourself.
I used to have a laugh at Graham Spiers’ commentary on all things Elton John and the Ibrox Gannets some years ago in Scotland on Sunday. Then I saw the Parkhead Gannets at work.
As the story goes, the Gannets rushed into the main stand at half time to hog the pies and even started a witch hunt in an attempt to discover who was supplying the information to Spiers. It’s just the same in the Jock Stein lounge and I saw it most recently at Hampden for the Kilmarnock cup final (best forgotten).
Macro economics and politics boil down to how you want to behave – hog the pies or take what you need and leave the rest.
I hope NL doesn’t go the same way as Sally, he’s beginning to look a bit rotund.
HH
Joko
Bamiyan surely. Or did you misspeak again?
PHILVISRETURNS 1334
I genuinely do not understand you here-I asked you as a personal favour to desist from the type of comment made in a previous post.
The last line of which I suggested was unbecoming of you.
Your reply was to ask whether babies disgust me.
You’ve lost me there,old pal.
But here’s a repost of the original,including the last line mocking someone’s disability.
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philvisreturns
12:30 on 21 August, 2012
up_over_goal – I imagine social security will account for a substantial fraction of that public spend
It always does:
2012 public spending:
Total Spending £688.0 billion
Pensions £127.2 billion
Health Care £121.3 billion
Education £91.7 billion
Defence £45.8 billion
Welfare £115.1 billion
2010 public spending:
Total Spending £660.8 billion
Pensions £114.6 billion
Health Care £118.2 billion
Education £88.4 billion
Defence £43.2 billion
Welfare £110.0 billion
So welfare has gone up “only” five billion a year in the past two years, but pension costs us £12.6 bn more per annum – uh oh.
But what’s really killing us is interest from all the debts Gordon Brown ran up for us: it’s costing approx. £47bn a year this year to service the UK’s debt – up from £30bn in 2010.
£47bn a year! Not to pay off our debts, mind. Just to pay the minimum on our national credit card.
a fraction which will no doubt increase as the failed economic policies of George Osborne produce more unemployment.
Please enlighten me: which economic policies of George Osborne have failed, specifically?
NB inheriting a job where your one-eyed lunatic of a predecessor willfully bankrupted the organisation isn’t an economic policy. (thumbsup)
Miki67
Love you …. Never had a problem.
My approach to the blog means there will be collateral damage.
I am a big bhoy I can live with it.
STANDING UP FOR NEIL LENNON
Phil
Cut jobs make people unemployed= more benefits
Create more jobs = tax revenues
Double whammy in condems policies less people paying tax and more people on benefits
Recieving less paying out more seems like a plan to me!!!
My version of an olive branch. Nick Lowe :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7txCdLCP9U&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Awe Naw
I believe the PLC are circling the Wagon Wheels as we speak.
C’mon Hellsing Hellsing Hellsingberg.
Mort. Don’t get face-t-I-o-u-s now. I’m being serious. There are Bhoys out there who if they don’t get an opp of a good ole moan a day could do damage to themselves. Football is just a game. We are talking about real living life’s here.
MWD Supports the Moaners.
philvis..,
come on, surely you have a view on what could turn out to be the single biggest doplomatic mistake in diplomatic history
Paul67
A favourite Celtic Park memory?
That was nearly my last….thought my heart was going to burst out of my rib cage.
I still hold my Naka free-kick aginst Manure as the best…that goal sealed qualification through to the knock out stages. Stunning.
Yes twelve yards was far too close for Naka san!!!!!
If only he was blessed with speed to match his technical ability Naka would truely have been one of the World’s best players.
Paul67 et al
The key of course is to give ourselves a chance in the second leg back at Parkhead. Not sure who said it yesterday but the one thing worrying Helsingbourg is Celtic scoring an away goal. Easier said than done of course but got to hope that we will create some chances. Said it before I know but we did make some progress last season, a bit of assurance on the road, and if that continues, we can qualify for the Champions League. For those that want to go straight to the Europa League, think back to both Manchesters last season, they did not find it so welcoming, and they are one and two in the EPL. Heard Neil Lennon on the radio yesterday saying that there were fitness tests for Hoops, Brown, McCourt and Forrest, but do not know how they worked out. Obviously they won’t all play, but would be good to have them available.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
I assume you mean PL? If he is motivated by money, surely he will understand its attraction for others, and, if it spurs them on, it can only mean he will also profit in the long run.
Right or wrong, i’d rather have him on our side. HH
Can I just add.
Down with Celtic and that!
MWD
“Didn’t we have a lovely day, the day we went to Bangor…..”
Come on now sing along!!!
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS – Oh, I see.
I thought you were for some reason disgustipated at my allusion, in a different post, to rent-seeking firms being clamped to the taxpayers’ teat.
I was puzzled myself.
Which of Gordon Brown’s disabilities were you unhappy with me mocking – him being a cyclops, or him being a raving nutter?
I’ll quite happily apologise to the snotter-munching bogle when he gives us all our money back. (thumbsup)
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
“I blame a need for a rigid beleif system.”
I blame Cafolic schools…
MWD
Aye Lawwell not only barefaced lying about our Old Firm dependancy but where we were with it. Nowhere ! No surprises to see traditional think instinctively utilised to counteract.
I await the well you did want Rangers punished finger waving lectures around AGM time
Backwards and Downwards
HH
Rangers defender Dorin Goian said he thought he would be facing ‘fat amateurs’ in the Third Division, while team-mate Kevin Kyle has been ordered to lose a stone of weight by manager Ally McCoist. (Daily Record)
Pot – Kettle – Black
Duke
The God Like Genius of Georgios Samaras will shine tonight!
Mon Ra Sammi you were born for these nights oh son of Zeus!
Por cierto
On this blog. ABSOLUTELY me included.
More jam tomorrow
HH
philvis
Just lost my post to you, so in brief:
Your nnaive approach to national debt – cut back spending – will only make things worse. You’re a Thatcherite, so I’m guessing you approve of her grocer’s shop approach, likening governments to households. Households living beyond their means have no choice but to cut back. But when governments reduce spending, growth slows, unemployment goes up, income – tax revenues – go down, the whole shebang.
I am not advocating reckless spending, but spending that yields a high economic return (there are plenty of examples) is the best way out of this crisis.
Just seen some changes to the fixtures,Sept 15 St Johnstone away 12.30 ko,
Oct 7 Hearts home 12.45.Unusual for a home game to be changed this early in the season.
What a tangled web they weave,these oh-so-not-caring business men who suddenly find ‘football’ in their hearts. Absolutely scurrilous. We must be vigilant lest such things happen to us when the current owner and board are long gone.
http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/single/?p=11672343&t=8719788
Champions League or Europa League?
Let’s have both !! por cierto…
given recent performances I don’t see where goals are going to come from in this team just now.
Would love to see someone take the initiative and start hitting the byeline, step forward (and keep going :))sammi,izzy,commons,forrest or matthews tonight please.
Hello peeps… Thought I read on here the other day that both legs were on TV… but can’t seem to find tonights game on the telly… Can anyone telll me is it on… and where?
Many thanks.