So the chief executive of the appellate body awaiting a decision to appeal says, “It’s crucial with league reconstruction being such an important issue for the game that we now draw a line under what’s happened”.
According to the SPL Commission the president of that same appellate body was one of the “directors of Oldco [which]must bear a heavy responsibility” for what happened.
Responsibility, however, is an unnecessary concept for the chief executive of the appellate body, who told the media “It’s not about trying to find scapegoats to take responsibility for what’s happened in the last 12 months.”
Note use of language, those responsible are now “scapegoats”.
Scapegoat, def: A person or group made to bear the blame for others or to suffer in their place.
Let’s not look for scapegoats. Instead let’s stick to who Lord Nimmo Smith’s Commision blame, “the directors of Oldco”. Including the appellate body’s president.
The appellate body is unfit as an appellate body and as a football association. SPL clubs must look for a new playing environment. Let the SFA and SFL run the grassroots game. They appear to want this anyway and I am sure SPL clubs will flourish when no longer restricted to opposition from Scotland.
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BGFC – what an uplifting story of what it means to be a Celtic fan. It’s in the DNA and no one, not even a shower of cheating you know what’s should take that from us. Kelvinbhoy and young Kelvinbhoy will be there next season. Hail Hail
big georges fan club
21:46 on 3 March, 2013
I agree, well put, the majority have moved on, although many have a residual element of bigotry. As you say ingrained after centuries of conditioning. Unintentional but no less harmful.
we’re gonna win the league
we’re gonna win the league
ee ai me adio
we’re gonna win the league
goodnight non cheating bar stewards
art of war
21:54 on 3 March, 2013
Just came back on for a quick look , brilliant story , I have family in Donegal and Leitrim so can relate to the Fighting Irish aspect of your story.
Sometimes in life you have to stand up for what you believe in no matter the result .
Hail Hail
A Challenge To The SFA
I have today asked the SFA how they will deal with the participation of ineligible players by the former Rangers FC in past Scottish Cup ties.
Regardless of the rationale that the Lord Nimmo Smith Commission used in its decision to fine the former club but not to reverse the results of past league matches, it must be remembered that a guilty verdict was delivered. Many players over many years were not correctly registered as footballers and they played in many matches, including Scottish Cup ties.
Now consider that Spartans were thrown out of the Scottish Cup in 2011 when it was discovered that a date was missing from a contract submitted to the governing body. Surely no sporting advantage was received because of the missing date? The judicial panel in this case did not decide, as per SFA evidence to the LNS Commission, that the player was eligible because he could have been, or because no one noticed the error until later. Instead it threw Spartans out of the Cup.
Now surely Scotland’s governing body will treat all clubs equally?
Here is the text of the inquiry I have submitted to the SFA. I look forward to receiving their response.
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Dear Colleagues,
You will be aware, of course, of the recent verdict of the Commission headed by Lord Nimmo Smith into the matter of the registration of footballers by the former Rangers FC.
You will also be aware that the Commission concluded that many players were not registered correctly, as full details of payments made to them were not disclosed to the footballing authorities.
I would like to inquire how this matter will now be progressed by the SFA in relation to the past participation of the many players involved in Scottish Cup ties.
You will recall that in November 2011, Spartans were excluded from the Scottish Cup because an incorrectly registered player was fielded in a tie. The club’s victory was subsequently overturned by an SFA judicial panel because of this administrative error.
The matter was reported at the time by the BBC. This link provides the details: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/15672375
I note that the BBC reports that, “Scottish Cup rules now state that any club that plays a player who is ineligible will be thrown out of the competition. The rules also state that neither the judicial panel or anyone at the SFA has the authority to change this rule.”
I would be grateful for your comments on how this rule will now be applied in relation to the former Rangers FC in light of Lord Nimmo Smith’s Commission having confirmed that any players were not registered in accordance with football’s rules and were therefore ineligible to play in Scottish Cup ties.
Yours Sincerely
Gordon Johnston
THE EXILED TIM – Timmy turned them upside down and dropped them on their zombie heads.
They will be at it again very soon,trying their zombie best to compete with us.God help their zombie wit.
We are light years ahead of them,they are an evil zombie entity,but they will find it impossible to sustain any challenge to us.
TET
Which is why the next battle is so important.
Wait for the reconstruction lies to start coming thick and fast if they aren’t already.
The fans of all clubs had better be ready for this.
We beat them last year and we can do it again.
As for being subservient – they only walk all over you if you let them. We cannot effect Tribunals and Commission who make up new rules to cover their backs but we can win the next battle if we are ready for it and it looks like we’ll need to be.
As things stand we have a timescale of 2 more years minimum before Sevco hit the top league. Our board need to be working on ways to shaft them in the way they would be if the roles were reversed (only in our case we must do it within the rules).
The question is are they?
Celtic_First
When you move up the Masonic (and other secret societies) you are told that those below you are worthless and deserve nothing but contempt, so you are in a Brotherhood that deceives every step up the “pyramid”. That is AntiChristian in every way.
We are witnessing high level Masons exposing themselfs for all to see.
This will be the week our MSM will begin their Operation Sevco into SPL next season campaign.
Provan has served the first salvos in his dirge today, expect many more to follow.
A wee comment abt O Brien if I may.
I think the people that outed him were very concerned that he could become Pope someday and could not allow that to happen.
He should have left the priesthood years ago as he must have known this would come out at sometime. Its not easy being a Catholic these days.
16 roads
You, like me and anyone else are entitled to our opinions.
A team calling themselfs rangers, playing in the same strip, same stadium, same support, same everything, and even more powerfull football authorities, now that they can cheat with complete impunity, the referees are still onside, they will be back soon enough.
Now, I am not a stupid bloke, nor am I super intelligent, I would be of average intelligence, but even I can see what is happening.
They can do what they want, and they will do what they want, and they will not be punished for their cheating……
Barcabhoy
Excellent post, a lucid illustration of how their financial doping worked in practice and how preposterous it is for anyone to hold that no sporting advantage was gained from it.
I really, really hope that the Celtic board are looking at all options here and that this stinking travesty of a judgment is not going to be allowed to the last word on the matter.
Some excellent posts throughout the day.
My view – we are in the middle of a War, and to date have won many of the battles, but not yet the War.
I and my family will remain as foot soldiers, as the song goes “we shall never be defeated”, those who decide to give up on Celtic, are only giving that other mob an advantage, they will never get that opportunity from me.
I have not been to an SFA sponsored competition for 4 seasons, have not bought a newspaper for approaching a year, and stopped listening to phone ins.
My current way of supporting the fight, plus financially supporting the Celtic.
The current board may have many faults, but they are in positions because they are smarter than me, we may have to show them some support.
They are part of this war, and fighting our corner in an intelligent and corporate way.
Lets see how this current battle ends, but remember the LNS enquiry found them guilty.
Hail Hail
Petec
Ref Regan and being hand picked mason
I don’t think so. He was not able to progress to high in the old Bass business which was pretty Masonic.
I have never felt that about him although he has a fair few advising him up here who are.
Nolans did lead recruitment but then Campbell and Peat will have been on panel if my experience was anything to go by.
Barca.
Great post as always sir. Case well rested.
Jude2005
It’s all very vague, but there is no reason whatsoever to think that Cardinal O’Brien’s improprieties should have caused him to leave the priesthood. None whatsoever.
As for him being elected Pope, I don’t honestly think even his biggest fan would have had any hope of that.
He is a good man who has shown some weaknesses, as all good people are liable to do from time to time. As far as we know, it was a few inappropriate moments with a handful of people thirty years ago. He has apologised for the hurt this has caused to the people involved and to the whole Catholic community.
He deserves a long and peaceful retirement for all the good he has done. We are all weak and we are all sinners.
Burnley78
Thanks for that insight.
How come masons still exert so much influence on how ordinary life works?
Genuine question from someone who is naive about the whole thing.
Snake
I didn’t mean we as people are subserviant, I meant the club.
I have my doubts the fans will do the biz this time, the supporters of the other clubs imo, don’t think they have been cheated as much as we do.
I also have my doubts the suits at the club are up for a fight.
They have done us up like a kipper, they can and will do as they see fit, and no amount of bleating will change things.
The game is run for them, and by them, there is no will to change this, if there had been, it would have been challenged by now.
All Celtic have to do, is hand in it’s notice to quit.
That imo, will be enough for the appropriate powers to interviene.
In all honesty, I would rather we gave up altogether than allow them to crap on us when they feel like it.
They are laughing at us, and there is not a thing being done about it.
THE EXILED TIM – Their referees remain and will always be a concern.
I agree with you on that matter,totally.
jude2005 is Neil Lennon
Our parish priest ditched the sermon today, and spoke to the congrgation from the heart, on the current situation (on back of a letter from Bishop T) – he was given a very warm round of applause at the end.
His message Keep the Faith
In 2 weeks time there will be a collection, with the funds going towards supporting a young Cowie Bhoy as he is ordained a deacon in April and full priesthood next year.
Incidentally he is tweeting next pope – Mauro Piacenzo
Hail Hail
TET
I know what you mean but quit?
Where can we go?
We’ve had this conversation for years. The mechanism doesn’t exist to get us anywhere else.
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/
There was more chance of me becoming Pope,I am catholic,neither a lunatic nor a heretic.
The whole thing stinks of personal revenge,the retired priest quoted in the MSM today has a history of disagreement with the Cardinal,and you are bang on it’s very difficult being a Catholic today however I am sure that has always been the case right back to when the Romans were throwing us to the lions.
Keep the Faith.
Happened to read a Sunday paper in a friends house today, I see that clown burley now wants sevco in the top league next year, what a surprise, never thought I could dislike him more than I did, but I am happy to be proved wrong, what a d..k the man is
Celtic first
O’ Brien abused his position and made homosexual advances towards young men he was supposed to be providing spiritual guidance to, at least one of whom has required counselling for many years and struggled with suicidal thoughts. O’Brien also lied by claiming that he didn’t know who his accusers were or what he was accused of.
He had no option but to go.
Fourgreenfields – cheers mate!
I think we should fight, as we are right.
Got that wee choon fae The Quiet Man in my head now:-)
Ding, ding, ding, ding, de-le-le-lah, ding, ding….
Good read from Paul McC
http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/did-lord-nimmo-smith-say-rangers-made-an-honest-mistake-no-what-about-rangers-non-existent-advice/
Just popped in before setting off for work.
Still the Masonic obsession, and comments like “it’s not easy being a Catholic”.
Jesus wept!
Time for work, and some sanity.
Barcabhoy
Excellent post
A lot of money was wasted for no sporting advantage ….
How Long before a New Firm?
I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
I’ll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Half time Hibs 2 – The Beard 1
Snake
I would rather we started a basketball team.
The game is corrupt, and neither Celtic nor any other club seem willing to confront it.
If we fight them and lose, fair enough, but I have had enough of allowing them to dictate and do as they please.
It’s up to the clubs…..
Just as an aside, I would wager that at least 9 of the spl chairmen are goatfiddlers.
Goodnight all
May tomorrow bring you what you need.
HAIL HAIL
Burnley78
Thanks for your info, it is easy to conclude certain things, especially when the evidence leads towards such an outcome.
I just speculated that Regan was in one of their clubs. He may well have joined a club once he was threatened or coerced into things.
When he took himself off twitter that was a massive red flag for me.
When you are in that system, you are controlled, one way, or another. It is a cushy number but he could be bankrupted if he didn’t acquiesce. The Press were never ever going to expose anything sinister after all.
Watching highlights of Killie v Hibs. If Cammy Bell is the new Sevco keeper then the 2nd division title next season isn’t the certainty they think. A bombscare of a keeper, 2 goals his fault. Good to see the FPLG’s eye for a player is as good as ever!!
Just been reading back…..some folk still obsessed by stirlingshire killie embra well huns…..if calling other fans with these stupid names how do we expect anybody to back us…..goin to need all the support we can get……r c ogilvie needs exterminated
Tom McLaughlin
Lord’s name in vain !! Have a good day at work.
cowiebhoy
22:19 on
3 March, 2013
Good post chief. Well said, the only point I’d differ with is supporting the team at Cup Finals, who am I to deny Miss Doc the joy of watching the Club win Cups?
But I can’t say your wrong.
iPaddy McCourt
If you think I was arguing that the cardinal ought not to have stepped down you are misrepresenting me. All I said was he is a good man and deserves a peaceful retirement.