We’ve often talked about the only real danger to a football club: internecine strife:
Internecine, def: pertaining to conflict within a group, mutually destructive.
In football, your enemies can’t inflict permanent harm, that can only come from within. This morning’s media cover threats from Sevconians to boycott (clearly in homage to Irish tradition) club/company products. More power to their elbows, they should boycott every piece of tat Newco’s disparate IP rights holders churn out, apart from the occasional novelty duck.
Here’s the thing, before you turn the tanks inwards, you’d better be sure you’ve got the ‘What happens next?’ question sorted. If you don’t, you’re playing a real life version of Lemmings.
Threatening Mike Ashley? Aye sure, that’ll work, knock yourself out. I’m sure Ashley’s known as a big pussy, he hasn’t got the money to face down the malcontents, either. I bet he’s already writing his capitulation letter, “Dear Sevconians, by noticing that I can’t handle conflict you’ve outsmarted me. The game’s up.”
What was it Charles Green told John Brown he would do to Ibrox? Hmmm.
Blame the SFA, SPL, BBC, Celtic, Her Majesty’s lawyers, the Daily Record and Raith Rovers but you need to be on the inside to wreak havoc like this.
Interesting front opened by the English Premier League today on the copycat use of pyrotechnics at football games. “Someone could get killed”, said policing minister Damian Green. You’re 20 years out of date, Mr Green.
Here’s the problem: it’s possible to discharge one of these devices in a crowded area without accepting the safety/reputational/fine consequences. Enormously invasive searches of unconnected people would be required to prevent pyros being taken into a stadium which is just not possible, eradication requires everyone to decide not to participate.
The only practical method I can see of stopping the use of pyrotechnics in Scottish football is to give Sports Direct exclusive distribution rights. Who’d buy them then?
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jackiemac, ipaddy,
I’ve been writing about Japanese football on various platforms for a while now, the level is extraordinary.
Would it surprise you to know with one game left to play in the J-league Naka is overwhelming favourite for player of the year, and will probably captain Yokohama F Marinos to their first title in nine years on Saturday.
At 35, I would say he is actually getting better. Genius
TJ
Honest..,
In the same vein as you claim ernie lost the argument, then you must also fall on that sword, my feelings towards the board have no bearing on this, it is an obvious open/shut case to anyone who can read and you standing alone in the argument should probably highlight your on a looser. Its simple enough logic, Bobo did not hold them over a barrel to get the contract, nor did he renege on the contract, he did however consent to a mutual commitment that he alone honoured. Any other interpretation is simply juvenile.
HT.
No problem just sent him a text to make sure.
The Honest Mistake loves being first
20:15 on 3 December, 2013
Gerrybhoy.
Don’t doubt he was better but wasn’t worth the extra money.
He knew he wouldn’t be played but…
His respect for the cash that was coming into his bank account was greater than his respect for me, you, celtic or even his ambition to play football.
My last comment on this – honest ;-)
The club made the contract offer; Bobo accepted and they BOTH signed. The (new) manager did not play him. Whether PL was involved or not, is not the issue. The club and the player had a signed contract. Why is Bobo at fault? He was quite correct to react as he did and our club was incompetant in its handling of this transaction.
SimplesCSC
ipaddy mccourt supports wee oscar
20:12 on 3 December, 2013
Absolutely…….i saw it very clearly and will NEVER forget it……..why everyone else round about me was jumping about daft, I was gobsmacker (standing still, mooth open) hahahaha
Canman.
Most anti board talk on cqn is met with childish retorts.
A bit like the vote next year. We only want the facts to let us choose..undecided on next year not on the board. O)
Tallybhoy
20:04 on
3 December, 2013
I recollect a match – 6/7 years ago – possibly against Dunfermline away, when Bobo went into a challenge and laid out THREE opposition players!
I can still picture them flat out on the deck.
Bobo was unscathed.
Anyone remember?
I do. I had an old Volvo at the time which I nicknamed Bobo. Big old tank it was. A wummin
ran into the back of me at lights going a fair lick. The front of her Fiesta was hanging off in bits but Bobo only had a wee mark on the back bumper.
Livibhoy 17.11
A great post
TT
jackie mac
You’re right. Naka’s strike was a goal of perfection.
The technique to do what he did, clearing a wall of guys all around 6′ plus in height, directing into the top corner at pace and against a 6’4″ goalkeeper.
Never doubted him for a minute!! :-)
gerrybhoy
20:22 on 3 December, 2013
Agreed with Bobo at the time.
Canamalar.
I might be the only person on my side of the argument but on your side of the argument you have such fine members of the brethren as David dowling at the sfa.
“Go on yerself bobo – get it up them”
This should probably highlight your on a looser. Its simple enough logic.
DBBIA,
Thanks for the thoughts. From what I have seen of him, he’ll probably still be following the Celtic when he reaches his century.
Actually, in the Home where he lives, the widow of his mate, whom he used to attend all the games, is a fellow resident. Only last week, he was joined by probably the biggest Celtic supporter there has ever been: a very quiet chap, whom I never heard sing a single song, but who simply loves the Celtic.
Honest..,
“Gerrybhoy.
Don’t doubt he was better but wasn’t worth the extra money.
He knew he wouldn’t be played but…
His respect for the cash that was coming into his bank account was greater than his respect for me, you, celtic or even his ambition to play football.”
What utter hogwash, when was the last time you discussed this with Bobo, what was it he said to you that made you make such an accusation ?
How the hell can you expect anyone to take you seriously with drivel like that ?
You have zero idea about Bobo and his personal motivations, bad mouth agenda is yer whack, poor show.
CELTIC
Ayrshire is Green and White
This should appear on CQN,……DAILY….!!!!!!!!
livibhoy – god bless wee oscar
17:11 on 3 December, 2013
Peter Lawwell does an excellent job for Celtic. I have said this many times but I will say it again. He is an employee of Celtic. He does what his bos tells him. In his case his boss is the board. He carries out the tasks from the board well and is well paid. His remit includes ensuring the manager is well equipped for the job in hand. He is. His remit is to bring cash into the club. He has. He is paid well but he also takes a lot of abuse from everyone including his own fans.
Do you remember a better man in his position at Celtic? I certainly can’t. Get off the mans back. He is a Celtic supporter and does a fine job for Celtic FC. The treatment that Peter Lawwell gets is incredible. He is a Celtic man and should be treated like one. He is one of our own. many clubs in Britain would like a man like Lawwell at the helm producing the profits and the deals for the club he negotiates.
I back the club, the manager and the players, staff and board. They may all frustrate me from time to time but I don’t revert to calling them by daft names like Liewell. Leave that to the Huns.
LB
Balde was within his rights to sit tight, he was offered a contract and both sides agreed to it.
Can’t help but feel that he could/should have done the honourable thing and agreed to a transfer when it was evident that WGS didn’t fancy him.
My favourite Nakamura goal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ilOSbu1Fjw
iPaddy McCourt Supports Wee Oscar
Great minds think alike!
Just noticed your post at 20.12. My best ever too.
Feeling bored, I just flicked on the zombies v Forfar game.
Ian Black just scored a hat trick and the commentator screams,”Yes, eat your heart out Kris Commons, anything you can do Ian can do better.”
I kid you not !
67heaven … i am neil lennon, supporting wee oscar..!!.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
20:17 on 3 December, 2013
Yes, 7 wasn’t enough it should have been 10.
Mobanguracsc
Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar
20:33 on 3 December, 2013
Is it not more likely that Strachan wasn’t allowed to play him because Peter Lawwell din’t want to lose face?
Hamiltontim.
Thanks.
Agree with you 100%
jackie mac
20:19 on 3 December, 2013
Absolutely…he’s got it…and the whole team gelled….
BT,
Hopefully results will restore some faith, if theres any hint of whitewash I’ll scweem and scweem and scweem till I’m sick
Ernie
I’m like everyone taking part in this debate in that I’m not in receipt of all the facts.
I do recall being told on several occasions that Celtic wanted to transfer him but Balde refused even to consider it.
The caveat always in this however was that Bobo was quite entitled to remain and see out his contract.
ernie lynch
20:33 on 3 December, 2013
My favourite Nakamura goal
FANTASTIC…and what about WGS…….water flask RIGHT up in the air…hahahahahahahaha
The Honest Mistake loves being first
20:17 on 3 December, 2013
Praecepta.
Stan and mcgeady should be applauded for the gift they gave the club towards the end of their celtic careers. Balde shouldn’t be.
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All 3 players should be appreciated for what they Done for Celtic. The First 11 is the most important, then the Subs after that.
Everyone makes mistakes, I happen to think Pedro made a massive mistake, what do I know…. and that is with hindsight.
Balde asked for and received the rate of pay that was the norm.
Why would anyone begrudge him that.?
Unless you are the ceo and want to be the best paid superstar at our football club.
ht,
We all heard the same rumours, trick being, we also heard he was expected to leave and work for less money, why should we expect anyone to accept that ?
If there is an appetite for some current Nakamura updates I’m more than happy to rattle some extraordinary footage from Japan on here all night.
Here’s a statement based on covering the J-League for the last few years – Shunsuke Nakamura has IMPROVED since he left us.
At 35, he is still capable of breathtaking skill, is about to captain his club to the title, and from Hiroshima to Sendai, Saitama to Tokyo, the bandwagon is rolling for his inclusion for Brazil 2014.
A bona fide genius.
TJ
Bobo wasn’t a sperstar but was paid the going rate for the time.
Nit his fault.
ernie lynch
20:35 on 3 December, 2013
Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar
20:33 on 3 December, 2013
Is it not more likely that Strachan wasn’t allowed to play him because Peter Lawwell din’t want to lose face?
May indeed have had something to do with it.
BUT that was not down to the big mhan.
TJ
Starry p was over for a few weeks recently but naka was injured..
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors
20:39 on 3 December, 2013
I knew as soon as the whistle went for the free kick that we were going to win the league.
I remember some fans had already left for the pub by that stage.
Tommy joad
it would actually, always worried about the ability of clubs to manage him properly and for naka to improve himself in overall contribution- well done naka.Though I suppose it’s not surprising that it’s come later in his career when he’s seen loads of different leagues
you got any links ?
BT,
Nit comb would have sorted that, dropping him for so long was a bit drastic just because of nits.
Petec.
Absolutely.
But for me 2 of the 3 stayed true to the club, making their next move more difficult in the process. You’re correct that everybody makes mistakes. A number of people including bobo’s CEO were involved in the mistake, each one should take their fair portion of the blame.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
20:41 on 3 December, 2013
I suspect it was more a point of honour than purely about the money. I suspect he felt he’d been hoodwinked over the appearance fee.