Several news outlets are running with our name attached to a prediction that we will join one other club in the English football structure within five years. This prediction is little more than background noise and is not indicative of any initiative or plan. A Scottish club cannot ‘buy’ an English club, relocated them and work their way through the leagues without the prior permission of both the Scottish and English FAs.
The notion of clubs buying clubs is not worthy of your attention and you should none of this ‘information’ should be used to support share valuations.
Celtic’s future is inextricably linked to the futures of Scotland’s other senior clubs, all of whom need to plan for their futures. Background noise like this only makes creating the environment necessary to fulfil those plans more difficult.
The Wayside Club in Glasgow has been serving the homeless and destitute for 80 years. It survives exclusively by charitable donations and is the only homeless resource in Glasgow which is open 365 days a year, offering food, non-alcoholic drink, showers, a hair-cut, shaving facility, first aid and a friendly face to those living on the very brink of existence. For its patrons, it is an oasis of normality in a harsh and cold world.
To raise funds they are having an 80th Anniversary Gala Dinner at the Hilton in Glasgow on Saturday, 27th April. Individual tickets are available for £50 each, with tables of 10 also available. If you would like to attend email me, celtiquicknews@gmail.com, and I’ll put you in touch with inspirational volunteer, Tom Boyd senior.
If you can’t make it along to the night you can support the Wayside Club by donation at their VirginMoneyGiving page.
I know the generosity of CQN readers does not need to be stated but my sincere thanks to everyone who participated in the auction for a bottle of whisky yesterday. A stunning £1901 was raise. Nippy.
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ProudBhoy..
There are a Crowd of Us heading to Brazil for the World Cup..
We are Meeting this Friday to Discuss Dates.. Places to Stay Etc..
Should be Guid trip.. Meeting Hoops Fans from London.. Dublin.. Glasgow and Beyond..
But You Cannae Come cause You said Your ‘Mate’ was Coming to Melnourne and where were the Good Pubs.. But it was You that Came.. :-(
Ha Ha.. For Someone with Next to No Memory .. I never Forget being Played.. :-))))
Summa of LookAfterOurOwnCSC
Derek Johnstone is an inarticulate fool.
He’s also a Hun apologist and puppet. Why would anyone who isn’t a Hun listen to him or care about his pathetic opinions?
Don’t wast valuable time listening to or reading their propaganda.
Interesting stats on Victor.
http://thinkfootball.co.uk/archives/9089
LB
“An Administrator’s job is to look after the interest of creditors, so he can’t come into a club and run it at a loss, including his own fees”.
Neil Patey (the self appointed football finance expert of the MSM) commenting on Dunfermline’s plight in todays papers.
D+P burst a huge hole in his expert view as stated above, when running Rangers a year ago. Not a peep from him about that.
I personally think that both BFDJ and Dalziel come across as being relatively articulate and intelligent when compared to some of the callers to Clyde’s phone-in. Its like the circus.
“I just want to know what the panel’s point is on that” CSC
Weeminger, you make good points. On the same topic, an interesting article in yesterday’s Grauniad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/mar/25/frozen-spring-arctic-sea-ice-loss
Jim Craig’s wife, Elizabeth from Perthshire was on the Mathew Wright Show this morning at about 10.45am Topic was “Fame, what about a career to fall back on”.
She said my husband was a prof footballer in the late 60s and early 70s with Celtic, asked to sign when 18 but did sign in his 4th yr at univ to become a dentist. Mathew said he was aware of other footballers such as Gordon Ramsay who also had two careers. Mrs Craig said “Not as good as my man though and he didn’t win the European Cup.
Gordon Dalziel is the Mouthpiece of Sevco for those who find BFDJ too intellectual
Henriks Sombrero
Keevins said
“Sporting integrity is a term used by chancers”
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In any other sporting field this statement by Keevins would be shocking but not here in Scotland where it means nothing.
Fassreifen
11:39 on 26 March, 2013
Thirteen years ago the experts said snow in Britain would be a rare event.
They said this was because of MMGW.
Now we are told that all the snow we are getting is because of MMGW.
So no matter what happens with the weather we are to regard it as proof of MMGW.
A Mike Galvin (English journalist) posted this on rm ……..won’t catch on up here …… LOL…….generating a lively debate
“Posted Today, 02:17 AM
Charles Green believes Rangers are a bigger club than Newcastle, and are natural members of any European Super League. He is quite prepared to steal the identity of any English club craven enough to sell him their birthright, a place in the Football League. He is either a fool or a fantasist; either way, he must be stopped.
Green failed as chief executive at Sheffield United. As Rangers’ chief executive, he has reinvented himself as the man who is quite prepared to destroy Scottish football, even if that means leading the Old Firm to the promised land of the Blue Square Premier League, aka the Conference, in England.
There are several problems with today’s threat, given in an interview with the Mirror, to use European law to apply for refugee status, not least the notion that Celtic need any lessons in foresight and ambition from their Glasgow neighbours, whose last performance earned a plucky goalless draw with Stirling Albion at Ibrox.
Green’s presumption is an insult to proper football men – including current Rangers manager Ally McCoist, a realist whose loyalty to the club’s tradition and social importance has been admirable. It presupposes that English football is prepared to defy international statutes, and pay the price of dealing with cross-border complications. It is not, and probably never will be.
I do not doubt his claim that two English clubs have begged him to buy them, regardless of the consequences. Many, in the lower leagues south of the border, are growing tired of an unequal struggle for survival. Rangers were linked to a buy-out of League One relegation candidates Bury last year.
Green’s tactics are transparent. His threat was well timed, delivered as it was in the dead zone of an international break, when news agendas are uncluttered. At the very least, it will add impetus to his simultaneous attempt to bully Rangers back towards the top table in Scotland.
Yet his credibility has already been stretched to breaking point. Richard Scudamore, the Premier League chief executive, is implacably opposed to Scottish infiltration. He is unlikely to be impressed by a man who condemns Aston Villa as “completely useless”, and characterises Everton, a club of stature and substance, as a relative minnow.
Since Green bills himself as “an outspoken Yorkshireman” who “calls a spade a spade”, let us speak his language. To be blunt, if Rangers fans care about their club – and that is beyond debate, given their support for their team in the Scottish Third Division – they should drive him and his acolytes out of town.
Rangers belong to Glasgow. They may be football’s equivalent of a pavement busker, battering out a tune for loose change, but there they must remain. “
snake plissken
11:45 on 26 March, 2013
How true is that……..and gd is a pure fud………hahahahahahaha
Sorry, ……mike CALVIN, not Galvin…..
Thought this was quite apt regarding the climate change debate:
“Scientists have discovered that people will believe anything if you claim scientists discovered it.”
Mort
Mort
12:13 on 26 March, 2013
Has that been scientifically proven.
Thursday 28 february 2013
The SPL Board appointed the Independent Commission to consider all aspects of the above matter and at no point provided any direction to the Commission on any aspect of the case.
The SPL Board notes that the Commission has upheld a number of complaints against Rangers OldCo and that Rangers OldCo has been found to have breached SPL and Scottish FA Rules over an 11-year period in relation to the non-disclosure of financial arrangements involving many of its Players.
The SPL Board are assured by the integrity of the process followed and thank The Rt Hon Lord Nimmo Smith and his colleagues, Nicholas Stewart QC and Charles Flint QC, for their time and effort.
The Board wishes to give the detail of the decision further consideration at its next meeting.
still waiting on the spl to publish their reason on why a deid club was fined?
and if no direction was giving to the commision !!
why were they allowed to set the punishment?
roll up roll up ……the show must go on
takingusallformugsfc@thespl
Ernie Lynch – if you get 10 days where it snows an inch of snow/day in one one year and the 13 years later you get 1 day where it snows 12 inches. Snow is rarer. You still got more snow in the later year.
You can’t take isolated events and say they prove or disprove a theory about a trend.
Re SSB. Heard a wee snippet last night when they were discussing a mentor type figure for sally (in the fourth tier of Scottish football) when the Gerry fella piped up ” Yeah, what’s Stuart Baxter doing these days anyway.” The others carried on like they didn’t hear him. Sneaky one Gerry. Keep ’em coming.
I’m always a wee bit disappointed when I log on now and don’t find a new article up.
Mainly because very shortly there will be a page with weans posting Podium, 1st, 6th, etc.
Away to KDS for a spell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Climate scientists will link anything to global warming because climate scientists are paid by the people who have vested interests in ‘globl warming’; the greatest con-trick ever played on a gullible world population. Wake up, world.
A very interesting piece by Bosman lawyer Jean-Louis Dupont stating that FFP could deemed illegal by European Courts of Justice.
Football’s Anticompetitive Streak
Some of Europe’s biggest clubs are, unsurprisingly, supporting rules that entrench their dominance.
Article
By JEAN-LOUIS DUPONT
Normally, if a trade association introduced rules that raised barriers to entry and entrenched dominant players, antitrust regulators would be up in arms. Yet UEFA—the Union of European Football Associations—seems to enjoy the support, even the encouragement, of the European Commission on new rules that will do just that.
The Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules, which come into force in the 2013-14 season, prevent football clubs from spending more than what they earn each year. Clubs that do not comply with this “break-even” principle will face sanctions, including a potential ban on participation in UEFA competitions.
The new rules, which were first proposed in 2009, are supposedly meant to stop clubs’ ballooning financial losses, which according to UEFA have threatened both individual, highly popular clubs and the future of European football as a whole.
All of this sounds reasonable at first. But as an agreement whereby industry participants jointly decide to limit investments, FFP likely constitutes collusion and hence a violation of EU competition law. FFP may also infringe other EU freedoms such as the free movement of workers and services.
This isn’t the view of the European Commission. In a letter dated March 12, 2012, competition chief Joaquin Almunia wrote to UEFA President Michel Platini to say that he welcomed the break-even rule, stating that “this principle is also consistent with the aims and objectives of EU policy in the field of State Aid.”
But the European Court of Justice might see it differently. This wouldn’t be the first case in which sporting rules are struck down by the EU’s highest court. In the 1995 Bosman ruling, the ECJ ruled against restrictions that prevented football players from moving to new clubs after their contracts expired. The Luxembourg-based court also prohibited domestic football leagues and UEFA from placing quotas on the number of non-EU players allowed on teams.
In its Meca-Medina judgment of 2006, the ECJ set an even more important precedent: that sports do not constitute a special case before EU law. The court must apply the same tests to sports as it does to any area of economic activity. I was involved in both of these cases, and I would note that in each instance the governing bodies concerned had initially received the full support of the European Commission.
The relevant test for sporting rules, therefore, is that if they distort competition or other EU freedoms, they must do so no more than is necessary in pursuit of legitimate objectives. That FFP distorts competition and EU freedoms is plain: EU case law has held that football players are the raw materials for football clubs to produce their final product. FFP is a joint agreement between clubs to limit their freedom to hire players by restraining their ability to spend on wages and transfers. This restraint of free competition may at the same time constitute a violation of the free movement of workers.
The next question is whether the objectives of FFP are legitimate and necessary. UEFA has put forth several objectives for FFP, the first of which is preserving the long-term financial stability of European football. This is laudable but unlikely to be considered such a fundamental objective that it justifies restricting competition.
A second objective, to preserve the integrity of the game in UEFA competition, might be looked upon better. But in fact, FFP is more likely to hinder than help in this regard.
European club football is characterized by numerous competitive imbalances: between clubs competing in UEFA competitions, between the domestic leagues of different countries, and between individual clubs in those leagues. Often the key determinant of a club’s financial strength is the size of its domestic market and the commercial realities that apply within it—competing in the English Premier League will always be more lucrative than in its Scottish counterpart. As a result, the leading clubs of smaller countries such as Luxembourg or Ireland will always be at a disadvantage next to the leading clubs of bigger markets.
The break-even rule makes no allowance for the commercial disparities between individual national leagues, which means smaller clubs are hit harder, proportionately, than larger ones. Without the ability to invest in their longer-term success, smaller clubs will stay small. This is clearly anticompetitive.
Even if FFP were sufficiently legitimate and necessary to justify its distortions of EU principles, however, it would still have to clear a final hurdle: proportionality. UEFA would need to convince the EU’s judges in Luxembourg that FFP is the least restrictive means of achieving its aims.
This seems unlikely. Existing UEFA regulations already require clubs to prove before the start of each season that they have no overdue payables to other clubs, to their employees or to tax authorities. With these safeguards already in place, it is hard to see why we need to stop clubs from incurring losses if and when they can safely fund them from the resources at their disposal.
If the ECJ were to declare FFP invalid, the ruling would hold for any FFP-based rules adopted at the national level. EU law also applies to restrictive practices that affect the territory of any single member state.
None of this implies, however, that competition law prevents UEFA from improving football’s financial model. If UEFA is serious about tackling the issue, it should address the root causes of the competitive imbalances among teams. UEFA’s territorial model could be redrawn, for instance, to allow clubs from major cities but small countries to become more competitive. More ambitious revenue-sharing between clubs and/or whole leagues, partly financed by a “luxury tax” on high-spending clubs, would also help.
But such solutions would run against the interests of the clubs with the most political clout. Some of Europe’s biggest clubs are, unsurprisingly, the loudest supporters of rules that entrench their dominance. The time is right for a strong reminder from the EU’s antitrust authorities that football, like any other multibillion-euro industry, must comply with the law.
Mr. Dupont is a European competition lawyer specializing in professional sports.
“Forensic science is not immutable. They’re not written in tablets of stone, and the biggest mistake that anyone can make—public, expert or anyone else alike—is to believe that forensic science is somehow beyond reproach: it is not! The biggest miscarriages of justice in the United Kingdom, many of them emanate from cases in which forensic science has been shown to be wrong. And the moment a forensic scientist or anyone else says: ‘I am sure this marries up with that’ I get worried.” – Michael Mansfield QC.
I suspect that applies to most sciences.
The decline and ultimate demise of Glasgow Rangers FC has been linked to global warming. ‘Scientists’ said so; it must be true.
weeminger
12:16 on 26 March, 2013
‘Ernie Lynch – if you get 10 days where it snows an inch of snow/day in one one year and the 13 years later you get 1 day where it snows 12 inches. Snow is rarer. You still got more snow in the later year.’
That’s not what has happened though is it?
I haven’t checked but I suspect that we’ve had more snow in the thirteen years since 2000 than we had in the thirteen years before 2000.
It doesn’t matter what the weather does, it doesn’t matter that the predictions are wrong, whatever happened it’s caused by MMGW.
ernie lynch
12:01 on 26 March, 2013
Going up to Aviemore next week, hopefully skiing might be on the agenda (not as young as I used to be)
Can I expect the snow to be warmer than it used to be?
Confusedcfc
Can someone maybe phone up BFDJ and ask him which charity the cup money v United Green donated it to?
Hahaha
LB
Sandman
12:25 on 26 March, 2013
‘The decline and ultimate demise of Glasgow Rangers FC has been linked to global warming. ‘Scientists’ said so; it must be true.’
The similarity is that any unusual or adverse events in Scottish football are linked to the death of der hun, whatever the evidence to the contrary.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21934564
Should Britain let go of London?
A new Independence debate………………………..Free London
just a wee update for the bhoys in blue
before the new article
The deputy chief constable of Cleveland Police, Derek Bonnard, has been sacked from the force for gross misconduct.
Mr Bonnard was suspended when he was arrested as part of a corruption probe in 2011 and denied any wrongdoing. The former chief constable was also sacked.
The force said Mr Bonnard was sacked for six counts of gross misconduct, including obstructing the inquiry and misusing a corporate credit card.
shocking behaviour from those who are there to serve the public
jam67
Scientist have discovered that global warming caused rangers Fc to liquidate
Rangers belong to Glasgow. They may be football’s equivalent of a pavement busker, battering out a tune for loose change, but there they must remain. “
CLASS
ranjurs………
” pavement pirates”
Hi CQN,
not been on for yonks. Am in Glasgow this weekend, so hope I am permitted a couple of tourist queries before putting in my tuppence worth on the new Ice Age!
Has anyone seen ‘Good Vibrations’ or ‘Mea Maxima Culpa’, which are both on at the GFT on Saturday night? Any good?
Do I have a snowball in Paisley’s chance of a ticket for sunday? Anywhere in the ground would be grand if away section tickets are scarce…
Okay – Winter in July.
In classic interweb declamatory fashion, it seems simple to me.
Less Arctic Ice – Fact!
Equals a deteriorating Gulf Stream/North Atlantic Drift thingummy – Fact!
From the Natural History Museum website:
“The Gulf Stream, in the North Atlantic Ocean, carries warm salty water from the equator up to the coast of Greenland in the Arctic. This water travels near the surface of the ocean, because warm water isn’t very dense.
As it travels to the Arctic, the warm water heats the countries of the North Atlantic, like Britain. It then cools, which increases its density. The dense water sinks to the bottom of the ocean where it is carried back to the equator.
Effects of melting ice
Global warming is making the Greenland ice cap begin to melt. If this happens rapidly, the meltwater, which is fresh, will flow into the North Atlantic and dilute the salty equatorial water. This will make it less dense and stop it from sinking. It could stop the Gulf Stream completely.”
Of course the biting easterly winds we are experiencing – displacing our usual milder souwesters brought over by the gulfstream’s airborne cousin the jetstream – are half the problem, at least here in the shandy-drinking Great Wen.
Is the frequent displacement in the jetstream experienced recently also related to less ice in the Arctic? Comprehensive enquiries (i.e. 45 seconds on Google) suggest that the jury is still out on that one…but watch this space!
My winter beard is now of Brian Blessed proportions…it’s usually off in early March. Will we all be sporting one next year?
Hail, hail to one and all…
Ernie Lynch – here’s some nice concise historical data for Glasgow Airport. Look at the column headed SN – that’s days with snow. Do the first and last decades look the same or different? What about the middle two decades? I’d love for this to go back for the whole of the airport’s lifespan.
Glasgow Airport weather
Ave temp in decade 1 – 8.72
Ave temp in decade 2 – 8.74
Ave temp in decade 3 – 9.14 (based on 9 years data)
Ave temp in decade 4 – 9.26 (based on 9 years data)
For the second 2 decades’ data to be inline with the first two the missing years’ data would need to be an average temp over the year of about 5 degrees C. Unlikely I think.
Last!?
Ernie Lynch – however that’s just one site and doesn’t prove anything globally. It does indicate a trend of warming locally though, and a dramatic one at that.
Sandman, I’m afraid I must disagree about your point about vested interests. If we assume that global warming is taking place due to human activity, then that would be the activity which releases excess greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere. So CO2. The major human activities which produce this are activities which burn fossil fuels, such as much of the power industry , the oil industry. Now I may be wrong, but I think that the oil industry has always been regarded as having a fairly significant interest in world affairs. I struggle to find a vested interest which wishes to promote the idea of global warming which has anywhere near the money, power or influence of the oil companies. I am very cautious about many of the claims made by the environmental lobby (or indeed any lobby), but in this case I suspect they are mostlly correct. We do know that global temperatures are generally increasing. And just because Europe has a cold winter, or even a series of cold winters, doesn’t mean that you can generalise from that. There is a saying in weather science; climate is what you expect, weather is what you get.
In addition, I suspect that we don’t yet know what the effects of increased temperatures will be on a regional or global basis.
Paul67
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