BBC editorial standards on Celtic complaint

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I consume tons of BBC material, TV, radio, Sounds and online.  It is the most value for money media out there (apart from CQN).  It has is critics, those who would do away with it and leave the road open for the global conglomerates – that is never how they see it, of course, but I would campaign for its continued independence.

When Celtic marked the death of Shane Warne, a long time Ange Postecoglou fan, their choice of photo was attacked by a BBC correspondent on Twitter.  Unfairly so, judged the BBC Editorial Standards Board, who issued a takedown notice.  The correspondent did as he was told, albeit without the grace to apologise.

For a long time Celtic have been a cheap hit.  Politicians and journalists have felt free to work in the darkness of innuendo, an indication of the drop in standards across public life in general.  Some standards are worth maintaining.  We can only hope lessons will be learned.

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  1. The original sadies bhoy

     

     

    Take every game in every competition as it comes.

     

    Win it.

     

    Its what we have been made to do from day1.

     

    Every game is a priority,work for it one at a time,

     

    We look after what we do.things will flow from there.

     

    Its what we do.

     

     

    HH

  2. Tom McLaughlin on

    I listen to BBC Sounds several times a week as there is a great variety of podcasts and shows on demand, mainly Radio 4.

     

     

    Most nights I listen to Radio 4 Extra for a lot of dramas and comedy shows – no news or current affairs.

     

     

    So all from London. I rarely listen to Radio Scotland.

  3. Tom McLaughlin on

    ADI_DASSLER

     

     

    Spot on Robert. Have you ever heard or read a BBC Scotland commentator, pundit, reporter or journalist criticise or question their Ibrox exclusion? And they were banned for telling the truth.

  4. park the bus 442 on

    There hasn’t been “one” single journalist in Scotland that hasn’t been 100% behind the Scottish establishment script, since 2008.

     

    In 2008, the great Celtic historian, and non clique, non ass licking, of any board, manager, or players, the one and only, Gerald McNee, retired in the same week that, 250,000 Rangers supporters rioted, and wrecked, the city of Manchester, at the Uefa Cup Final 2008.

     

    Look at the wholesale, industrial, corruption, collusion, complicity, betrayal, deceit, that hasn’t been subjected to (( any )) rogue journalistic type of questioning, since 2008??

     

    David Murray tried, and failed, on numerous occasions to have, Gerald McNee’s, Sunday column removed.

     

    Fergus McCann, through the always reliable club newspaper, “The Celtic View” embarked upon a campaign of, smearing both, Gerald McNee, and Brian Dempsey, as a pair of, “anti-Celtic wolves in sheep clothing” all because, Gerald McNee, and Brian Dempsey, were telling the truth to supporters about, Fergus McCann’s deceit, and his breaking the promise that he made to tens of thousands of Celtic supporters, who vastly oversubscribed to numerous share flotations, and here we are, almost 30 years later, and Celtic supporters aren’t a single inch more in control of their club, than they were in 1994.

     

    And Fergus McCann was lauded deservedly, back in the day, for dealing with the CBC abuse issues, jailing some culprits etc, etc.

     

    Well done Mr McCann. 👏

     

    Or, was this not completed properly, like everybody was led to believe at the time??

     

    WTF is the truth about this horrible issue??

     

    Why did Lawwell bottle out of an interview from Ch4news Alex Thompson, with James Dornan, and by bottling out, Lawwell made Celtic look thoroughly dodgy, and why were there no protests in the car park demanding Lawwell’s removal??

     

    Didn’t the absence of any protest make it look like the Celtic supporters are ok with a club that looks decidedly dodgy??

     

    What does that say about the image of Celtic supporters??

     

    What are other clubs supporters supposed to make of that image of Celtic supporters??

     

    Are Celtic supporters now so conceited with their heads so far up their own asses that they’ll never notice what anybody else thinks??

     

    Were do we get the truth from as Celtic supporters??

     

    Who informs us of the PLC machinations at Celtic, now that there is no, Gerald McNee??

     

    No one, that’s who.

     

    Look how, cocky, arrogant, corrupt, infallible, and untouchable the PLC have been since, 2008??

     

    The PLC have known since, 2008, that the questioning thorn in their side had been removed, after Gerald McNee’s retirement, that all they have to do is show face at ticket renewal time, and 53,000 will fall for their guff, even after the same PLC sat and watched 10 in a row disappearing under the management of NFL, if the PLC wanted 10 in a row, then they would’ve replaced the manager as soon as our points deficit went into double figures, surely??

     

    Ange has had an easy ride from the lame duck, bought and paid for journalists, Gerald McNee’s column would’ve been full of the same type of questions, that Martin Seville has been asking on here.

     

    Where is, Martin Seville??

     

    Hope he is ok, lot of folk dropping like flies, hope Martin isn’t one of them. 🙏 🍀

     

    Anyway, since 2008 no real journalistic questions have been asked of, Celtic fc, Rangers fc, anybody fc, any dodgy board, nothing!

     

    Journalists are now autocue readers.

     

    Haven’t bought a single paper since the great Celtic historian, Gerald McNee’s retirement. 🙏 🍀

     

    Now there’s the internet, where there’s plenty of, McCann’s and, Murray’s, though much worse than them, controlling what folk are allowed to read.

     

    Why?? What do the fear??

     

    The UK TV channel, RT UK, 99% truth was pulled over two weeks ago, because RT, UK, DE, America, Continental, all of these places has had this hugely popular news channel pulled, the (( only )) channel to be pulled, just think about that, Thatcher blocking Sinn Fein, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness RIP 🙏 💔 🍀, in who’s interest’s is this Pravda?

     

    In the interests of those who only want folk to know just one side of the story.

     

    Why would that be?

     

    McCann, and Murray, didn’t like folk who didn’t follow their script.

     

    In Scotland sports journalism, only, Gerald McNee, didn’t read from someone else’s script.

     

    That’s why on a few occasions, Murray tried, and failed, to have Gerald McNee’s columns removed.

     

    Why would that be??

     

    McCann knew that, obviously, he didn’t hold the same clout with the staunch Scottish media that, Murray had, so McCann used the, (( iffy )), in house journal, “The Celtic View” to attack, Gerald McNee’s column’s.

     

    Folk who try to cancel other voices, do so, not because those other voices are lying, but because the cancel cnt fears what those voices may have to say.

     

    That is it.

     

    Sing about setting Ireland free, then demand that those whom you disagree with should be, cancelled, silenced, etc, isn’t this the sort of tyranny that the songs say, Ireland should be set free from??

     

    North men, south men, comrades all.

     

    Those were the days eh.

     

    Now the – so called – comrades would look into each others eyes one minute, then stab them in the back, in the space of another minute.

     

    Its not just Celtic supporters, its society.

     

    Maggie has won, now there really is, no society.

     

    There are only two communities who stand out for me, for getting each others back.

     

    The Irish Republican’s in the six counties, and Manchester Utd supporters.

     

    Probably the Rangers supporters as well, animals that they most certainly are, but poke Rangers fc in the eye and their supporters will burn your city to the ground, they’ll burn it to the ground even without a poke in the eye with a stick.

     

    That’s not recommended behaviour, but these are the FACts.

     

    Celtic supporters have fallen into the trap of reading their own press, about how wonderful, and peaceful we are, and now those attributes have served as a double edged sword in a way.

     

    Who would be afraid of, wonderful, and, peaceful folk??

     

    Its as though we expect to be respected, because we’re all, wonderful, and, peaceful??

     

    No??

     

    How about, a PLC board full of corrupt, stinking rich, shady, duplicitous, sharks – don’t see, wonderful, and, peaceful, the PLC see – not a problem, take them for everything, lie about everything, then laughingly, mockingly, evade every question, repeat and rinse, until they wise up.

     

    Almost 30 years later, after incalculable episodes of, arrogance, betrayal, corruption, collusion, deceit, conceit, all of it, and Tims are on the outside looking in, and being mugged off by the club they support, and the party that they vote for??

     

    Where were the 53,000 who didn’t get, Auldheid’s back in the past 10 years??

     

    A day oot is now deemed to be more important, than protecting Celtic fc’s integrity, and using your solidarity to remove those from power who would put Celtic’s integrity at risk.

     

    Now its too late for that, 10 years too late!!!!

     

    You all looked after your own wee bubble, clique, kult, even buying tickets that said, Sevco-Rangers are the same club, 4 years ‘after’ Rangers fc had, supposedly, died??

     

    Rangers fc died in 2012 ticket price = £49

     

    Sevco-Rangers vs Celtic in 2016 ticket price £49

     

    WTF happened to you all??

  5. BURNLEY78 on 12TH MARCH 2022 4:32 PM

     

    English is a jumped up sensationalising tabloidesque, lazy and many would say bigoted wee journalist.

     

     

    Horrible little odious piece of pond life is how my old Latin teacher would describe him.

     

     

    Or, as my old tech teacher would call him, a little gimlet (the tool, not the cocktail!😊}

  6. Gerald McNee hahaha.

     

     

    The man who ordered a Rangers supporter off the SSB phone in calling him a moron for suggesting that Rangers should sign Maurice Johnston. Gerald called him a bigot and said that he made the suggestion to embarrass Celtic and told the guy it would never happen.

     

     

    Weeks later Maurice Johnston signs for Rangers.

     

     

    Gerald McNee also said in his column and on Scotsport that Celtic didn’t need a 60000 seater stadium because they’ll never fill it. Old Gerald truly had his finger on the pulse.

     

     

    On the night that Celtic beat Man Utd 1-0 courtesy of Naka’s long range free kick to ensure that we qualified for the last 16 of the CL, Gerald sat in the Scotsport studio fully half an hour after the game had finished and assured viewed that ‘they (Celtic) are not through yet but they have given themselves a great chance’. Why did he think 60000 fans were still going ballistic as he was speaking?

     

     

    Then of course there was the 3-3 game at Ibrox when Andreas Thom scored a thunderbolt. David Robertson scored for Rangers when we were winning 1-0. The goal was disallowed for offside but Gerry who was commentating missed the decision. For the next 10 minutes he misled viewers telling them that the score was 1-1. He had to be informed by his production team and then had to embarrassingly explain his error to viewers.

     

     

    Is this the Gerald McNee who would cure all ills and sort everything out if he hadn’t retired in 2008?

     

     

    Billy McNeill was able to see through him. His attitude to Celtic changed after his ‘discussion’ with Billy in Amsterdam.

  7. I’ve no idea…..( Fact!)

     

    :)

     

     

    But perhaps the fine contributors of This Dear Green Place will be a tad incredulous at the validatin’ of some worthless nutcase trolls.

  8. park the bus 442 on

    THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 12TH MARCH 2022 6:15 PM

     

    Gerald McNee hahaha.

     

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    And your evidence for the SSB stuff is what??

     

    Gerald said that 60,000 wasn’t on. He was wrong. He wasn’t God fc’s

     

    60,000 of what??

     

    Mugs??

     

    We ruled Europe with 20,000+ fc’s

     

    Again, who has asked the off script questions since Gerald McNee’s retirement??

     

    One name will do.

  9. Do the abundance of divergent Census posts constitute trolling ?

     

     

    If it were some posters it certainly would.

     

    Play the posts not the poster.

     

     

    HH.

     

    Ps : Great game of egg chasing. .

  10. GREENPINATA on 12TH MARCH 2022 6:39 PM

     

    Do the abundance of divergent Census posts constitute trolling ?

     

     

     

    If it were some posters it certainly would.

     

     

    Play the posts not the poster.

     

     

     

    HH.

     

     

    Ps : Great game of egg chasing.

     

     

    …………..

     

     

     

    I asked him to stop and used the word please. His replies were laced with sarcasm. I responded in kind.

  11. I did see that TOSB.

     

     

    Can you imagine the outrage if the poster was JHB.

     

     

    HH.

     

     

    PS : Gerry Mcnee : His book you’ll never walk alone was always sitting in our living room along with Lp’s The Holy ground of Glasgow Celtic, The flags are out for Celtic and Glasgow Celtic the Champions.

     

    Numerous Scottish and Irish LP’ such as Bobby’s kind of music.

     

     

    Reminisce.

  12. BANKIEBHOY1 on 12TH MARCH 2022 7:02 PM

     

    If my aunty had baws.

     

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    Did he / she ? Transphobic???????

  13. park the bus 442 on

    George Galloway (@georgegalloway) Tweeted:

     

    Welcome to the club… https://t.co/EZwY6WsUkr https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1502304651303079936?s=20&t=2sVoI9lZypeeTtfGeWHJYQ

     

    ••••••••

     

    🎯 💯💥

     

    Only GG will tell you the absolute truth.

     

    That’s why not a single journalist (( GB news excepted )) or any politicians on this small island of Britain will go, head to head, with George Galloway, leader of The Workers Party GB, every other party on this small island of Britain, are wokers parties, that’s why the country needs a right good kick up the ass to sort itself out.

     

    But it can’t be sorted out if no straight talk is allowed.

     

    Only at The Workers Party GB will you get, straight talk, straight to the point, no cliques, everybody on the one road.

     

    No woke bull, a man is a man, a woman is a woman, just like God wanted it to be.

     

    Anybody trying to alter God’s creation should be remedied, by whatever means possible.

     

    That might not be popular, but look were popular has got us??

     

    Only right and wrong should be the discussions, left wing has took flight four decades ago, or, when John Smith died RIP, in UK, and the rest of the west, and is now situated in cukoo land, were men can give birth, and other ungodly things are the popular flavors.

     

    fk that!

  14. Of course, if the usual odd squad of remarkable postings are encouraged by the vacuous – ” but it’s a bwog open tae aw!” ignoring that it’s a Celtic forum first an’ foremost ( the clue is in the name) then the sleekit an’ snyde will be facilitated to pop up and poop on This Dear Green Place – the horrible, the hurtin’ and the hun will be able to break-up the usual play of this special place just as sleekitly as Boaby Midden does to impede a Celtic forwards advance on goal.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I’m a little bemused as to why our genial host has not yet done more to cap the intrusive currant(s) – a juvenile grasp of the technology allows the determined hydra-heidit nugget post at will…..its objective imo to discourage active engagement or lower this place to the level of the smaller WhatsApp type sites………

     

     

     

     

    Don’t help thum.

  15. Way back in the day I always regarded Gerry McNee as the poor man’s James Traynor. Based solely on the quality of their output in print journalism.

     

    Some of the stuff Traynor produced for The Glasgow Herald was outstanding. Particularly his annual jaunt to cover Wimbledon in the 70’s. Of course he accepted the blue pound in his later years.

     

    McNee was just a run of the mill red topper, a bit like Shug Keevins today. McNee’s Celtic history book was okay, but nothing special. Can’t really understand why anyone would put Gerry McNee on such a high pedestal.

  16. THEORIGINALSADIESBHOY on 12TH MARCH 2022 6:47 PM

     

     

    let me get this straight, you believe by asking me nicely with a please, that I should stop posting something you dont like and should revert to any other topic of someone else’s choosing ?

     

    only me ? no one else ?

     

     

    and you called me an attention seeking arsehole.

     

     

    are the topics for tonight ok for you, am I allowed to post what I find interesting ?

     

     

    or should I wait for permission ?

     

     

    I dont care what Mitch thinks about about a new stand, I told him often why it wont happen in the way he thinks it should (its actually my job, raising money for development projects, planning and construcing them and occupany after) so any response to him is met with name calling and rhetoric and pie in the sky nonsensical posts.

     

     

    I dont want to discuss the potential costs to celtic plc of any civic action, I find it distasteful. and the person who fishes on it repeatedly is not here to dicsuss football, its a front.

     

     

    Lastly, What Tom English said about Celtic got an “aye so whit ” from me with ” a who cares” and a “it was ever thus”.

     

     

    I had nothing to add on any topic that I had not said before.

     

     

    So on the back of one overnight poster posting many many many links, in a sequence in a row, with no interaction with anyone, and PTB posting gigantic long rambling comments, you choose to pick my census notes out as an annoyance ?

     

    Is the scroll past function not working for you ?

     

     

    Hell the subject of census which I was doing seemed fair game ON A NON MATCH DAY.

     

     

    So here, listen in, you dont get to tell me what to do, what I should post,

     

     

    The sarcasm back were serious questons, is it your blog ? No.

     

     

    and I managed to type all that without name calling.

     

     

    are you finsihed that jumper.

  17. park the bus 442 on

    Why didn’t Celtic supporters put a motion forward for, Jim Spence, to became the leader of one their utterly useless supporters groups??

     

    Or was a few likes on a post about the size of it, was that you having done your bit??

     

    Jim Spence, good on him and his principled stand. 🙏 👏

     

    Just like Auldheid, a pat on the back for P, and then what??

     

    fk off and leave him to it??

     

    Why not march up the Celtic way, behind Auldheid, and, Jim Spence, one of you with the loudspeaker, summoning the PLC to the, Celtic Way, inform them that they, PLC, at any time over the past decade, inform them that the PLC have now crossed line and you need to resign and do it now, at any time over the past decade, this could’ve and, should’ve been done, so do it now and resign peacefully and leave. Just go! Go now! Make it quick! Or we’ll financially drain you out, no tickets renewed, after deadline day there’ll be a six week window were direct debits from fans not renewing, will present very difficult questions as by hat time the share value will be on the floor, and PLC hesitancy will cause a financial cliff edge, where….

     

    1. PLC puts their own money into the club??

     

    2. PLC has to resign??

     

    3. PLC refuse resign, then there’s not a police force or army in this world who’ll stop disgusted Celtic supporters from, not, taking the law into our own hands, but taking Celtic fc into our own hands, citizens arrests aren’t against the law, so dragging PLC charlatans winkers out of our club will be a public duty, as Celtic fc is a service to the public, WE, 53,0000 are that public.

     

    What’s the hold up been for a fkn decade??

     

    A DECADE ffs….

  18. Really annoying that I can get clear pictures of games from Bolivia, Switzerland, Belgium and Italy on Hesgoal right now, but not from Edinburgh. Grrrrrrrr!!!

  19. Park

     

     

    Instead of sniping from the sidelines and posing in the web world why don’t YOU lead a march up the Celtic Way – there would be at least 5 of you with your multi monikers.

     

     

    Biggest decision Galloway has to make in his day to day life is which cat suit to wear to bed.

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