Bogus issues and a Good Old Celtic debate

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I’ve not spent a lot of time online this week (work sometimes creeps in) but can’t believe the amount of traction that notion that Sevco would somehow be able to acquire SFA membership of a dead club, with all associated benefits, but be in a position to dictate set terms on how past misdeeds of Rangers would be recorded.

This is a bogus debate which serves only to deflect from the more serious issues facing Sevco, namely, do they have circa £25m to pay their way this season?  If not, their pedantic views of disciplinary matters are moot, although they may be used as a principled excuse to fold a football club.

On more positive matters……….

Tony Hamilton asked me into the Celtic TV to discuss various issues surrounding the club.  We spoke about how recent events elsewhere have had a galvanising impact on supporters of Celtic and other clubs, where Celtic’s future should be.  I also gave a breakdown of what the death of Rangers would mean financially to Celtic, with or without Champions League group stage qualification, talked about how it would benefit the entire Scottish game if we found a new league to play in, and the great atmosphere we have at Celtic Park these days – which you can experience if you buy a season ticket, which you absolutely-without-a-doubt-should!

Do it now.  The video is below:

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  1. Have the Oranj ambulators penciled in their next peregrination to the SFA HQ yet?

     

     

    It’s always a reliable barometer of crisis amongst der horde when they devise a patchwork of marches into their busy sectarian itinerary- by that measure they must be in perpetual crisis.

  2. tommytwiststommyturns on 26 July, 2012 at 22:33 said:

     

     

    nothing sorted as yet, she keeps making these veiled threats, which is promising as generally the threats are bypassed for an all out attack.

     

    itll be the usual tho

     

    “just happened to be on the laptop and this wee deal was there for.. (insert anywhere sunny) it was a bargain and you could do with getting away”

     

     

    Bundoranbum

     

    keep up the good work mate your doing a grand job

  3. Paulie Walnuts ‏@padrepio1916

     

    Looks like a “Gap year” for Sevco Fc

     

     

    @Cybertims

     

     

    Thu rumours. McCoist walks away. Brechin game a no go, Sevco scotland to liquidate. JUST RUMOURS. bhoys are on it now

     

     

    Retweeted by Paulie Walnuts

     

     

    Chris Graham ‏@ChrisGraham76

     

    If anybody is wondering why RFC don’t have an SFA licence yet let me give you three words. Petrie, Thompson, Lawwell. It’s that simple

  4. The bould b`hoys..... Tá ár lá anois..!!! on

    Craigy Whyte’s auld boy ?????????????????????????

  5. TBB,

     

    i think the website you were on is run by the

     

    guy who is regularly dragged out by STV,

     

    not Mingwall,i think his name is Chris something,

     

    he tries to paint himself as reasonable but there have

     

    been some dodgy articles on his site

  6. Gordybhoy

     

     

    Said Chris Graham …see above tweet …just another Hun chuckle monkey

  7. dirtymac , cheers. will check.it out.

     

    che, ginger? moi ? non. more like g’n’t-er

     

     

    tttt. when did youe last see me ? I wish Iwas more follicly-challenged. would help with the weekly ablutions

  8. The bould b`hoys..... Tá ár lá anois..!!! on

    Last night for the first time, I was starting to get concerned the Darnel might get away with this…..

     

     

    Today has been a good day.

     

     

    MWD–Gotta light?

     

     

    Pufff Pufff

     

     

    Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [Cheers fellah]

  9. •-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on

    Lamenting the fact that noone will ever think rangers have been punished enough, Mr Graham then goes on to retweet this little gem

     

     

    The Rangers Seal ‏@RangersSeal

     

    @St_Johnstone_FC Congratulations on your successful “No to Europa League” campaign lol

     

    Retwitteado por Chris Graham

     

     

    Noone likes them, and they can’t see why…..

  10. tommytwiststommyturns on

    Sanna – weekly?! FFS that explains a lot !

     

     

    Chris Graham, that was the muppet that turned up on STV or Newsnight Scotland wearing a (former) club tie and brown brogues….complete and utter fandango!

     

     

    T4

  11. Someone asked the attendance at Celtic Park Tuesday I reckon around 26,000,met jinky red star in HIs before the game.

  12. Some clarity, it was about time, from Ewing Grahame.

     

     

    Rangers go the wire haggling over SFA membership

     

    Charles Green’s stand-off with the Scottish Football Association will be taken right to the wire on Friday as they haggle over the terms and conditions which will be attached to their membership of the ruling body.

     

     

    Summer of uncertainty: Rangers fans are still being made to sweat on SFA .

     

     

    It’s understood that Green’s Sevco Scotland Ltd have deigned to accept a 12-month signing embargo from Sept 1 and a fine of £160,000 from the SFA but are still unwilling to “accept” any future punishments from the Scottish Premier League over Rangers’ alleged use of dual contracts.

     

    Should Rangers be found guilty of improperly registering employees for over a decade, the fear – as expressed by manager Ally McCoist – is that Rangers will be punished by having all trophies and cups won during that period stripped from them.

     

    One might argue that such an outcome would not, indeed, be a punishment at all but merely the automatic result of having found to have cheated opponents during the period in question by fielding players they would not otherwise have been able to afford.

     

    The real punishment would follow. Take, for example, the case of disgraced sprinter Ben Johnson. He set a new world record of 9.79 seconds in winning the 100m at the Seoul Olympics in 1988.

     

    However, the urine sample supplied by the Canadian afterwards contained traces of the steroid stanozolol.

     

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    Rangers newco close to SFA deal 24 Jul 2012

     

    Kennedy fails to buy Rangers for fourth time 23 Jul 2012

     

    Paul Stretford ‘assisting’ Rangers newco 22 Jul 2012

     

    Four days to save Rangers 22 Jul 2012

     

    Johnson, whose coach, Charles Francis, admitted that the athlete had been using performance-enhancing drugs since 1981, was stripped of his gold medal.

     

    That, though, was a consequence of having cheated: the penalty handed down to Johnson by the International Amateur Athletics Federation was a two-year ban from all competition.

     

    Green, like McCoist, does not wish to be similarly inconvenienced for any wrong-doing on the behalf of his predecessors.

     

    The SPL, for their part, wish to be able to deliver a sanction in keeping with the seriousness of the charges which have been brought and their lawyers, Harper McLeod, have already stated that there is a “prima facie” case for Rangers/Sevco to answer.

     

    It is now 14 days since Sevco was allowed to join the Scottish Football League in the Third Division. The deadline for being granted the SFA membership which will allow them to play competitively this season expires at close of business on Friday.

     

    Green, it might be argued, is merely doing what any chief executive would do in comparable circumstances: ie, negotiate the best deal for his company.

     

    The problem for him is that the oldco whose membership he wishes to be transferred and whose history he is anxious to assume, have already been found guilty of many serious transgressions, from wilfully refusing to pay their taxes to leaving a trail of football debt across Europe.

     

    On top of that, there are the verdicts pending in the dual registrations cases as well as the Top Tier Tax Tribunal’s investigation of the alleged misuse of Employee Benefit Trusts.

     

    These issues, while linked, are not interchangeable and there is no reason why the SPL would need to wait for the HMRC findings before announcing their own.

     

    Given that, the only bargaining chip Green has at his disposal is the potential size of Rangers newco’s support and their appeal to broadcasters. Even so, he will feel that he is right to take this particular Mexican stand-off right to the wire.

     

    He will remember, after all, how Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster, the chief executives of the SFA and SPL respectively, attempted to catapult Sevco Scotland Ltd into the First Division ahead of 20 other SFL clubs, only to have their scheme categorically rejected by the SFL members.

     

    Consequently, it would be surprising if that embarrassing episode was not at the back of his mind during this Mexican stand-off. Green will see himself as Clint Eastwood to Regan and Doncaster’s Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef as the rest of Scottish football waits to see who will blink first.

     

    The reputation of the national game has been tarnished by the events of the last five months at Ibrox and by the response to them from those in power at Hampden. There has been little credit to share between the participants: not so much the good, the bad and the ugly as unforgiven.

     

    Prevarication has been the order of the day for the two ruling bodies and that unwillingness (or inability) to take control of the situation has made bad worse.

     

    It is unfair on Brechin City, a club which needs money almost as badly as Sevco and one which has spent a significant (for them) sum on printing and distributing tickets and match programmes and selling corporate hospitality for their Alba Cup tie against Sevco, which may yet be cancelled less than 48 hours before kick-off time.

     

    It is unfair on Dundee, who have still to receive their SPL membership from the Soon-to-liquidated Rangers oldco and who may, as a result, have to postpone the beginning of their league campaign.

     

    It is unfair on Kilmarnock, who are due to host Dundee on Aug 4, because any switch to a midweek fixture would mean a smaller crowd and reduced revenue.

     

    It is also unfair on Ian Black and Craig Beattie, players Sevco hope to sign on lucrative contracts and on whose behalf a press conference will be called on Friday, assuming membership is granted.

     

    Most of all, it is unfair on the supporters throughout the country who will wonder – but surely not for long – whether their club would have been dealt with in such a fawning fashion if they had found themselves in a similar bind.

  13. thebhoyfromoz on

    Haven’t seen anyone on CQN commenting on the US government sponsered advertising banners that appear at the top of each page. Message changes with each refresh.

     

    They are not trying to sell any product but take the form of public service announcments.

     

    I am viewing CQN on an Ipod.

     

    Anyone else seeing the same thing or should i up my meds?

  14. TBB

     

     

    “but let’s allow Colin his right to make his argument and leave it to the likes of SFTB, and others qualified in Sociology, to consider the more prosaic aspects of these suggested themes.”

     

     

    I “studied” Sociology as one of 5 first year subjects at Strarthclyde Uni and promptly gave it up because of the teeth breaking English and the life-sucking tedium of most topics covered. About all I remember from that period is somebody called Talcott Parsons, who managed to achieve the unique status of being spectacularly more boring than other Sociological Theorists.

     

     

     

    P.S. Teddy Taylor, my first bete noire, was MP for Cathcart, which included Castlemilk. Teddy won a lot of votes from working class people there through his populist policies of being anti-abortion and pro-death penalty. That combined with the first use of machine politics and stage managed PR with the local papers kept him competitive in Castlemilk but he did not clearly win a majority of Castlemilk votes. It was block Tory voting from the wee frees in Cathcart that kept him as an MP till Maxton’s boy kicked his erse.

     

     

    The Cathcart Tories also ensured that Castlemilk was a dry area seeing a constant flight of working men on a Friday night down to Rutherglen, the South Side and Gorbals, until the Labour Club won back the seat by establishing the biggest pub in the area in the Labour Club, ensuring more votes.

     

     

    My first lesson in the law of unintended consequences.

  15. thebhoyfromoz on

    the current banner relates to the 9 11 memorial. clicking on the banner takes you to a website called 911memorial.org.

     

    I shoul add I am in G73.

  16. Senor Pablo Diablo on

    Who pointed Ewing Grahame in the direction of reality? That’s three or four pretty decent articles in a row. I always thought he was one of them?

  17. The Battered Bunnet on

    SFTB

     

     

    Ha! You missed the comma :¬)

     

     

    Next time we swap pints, I’ll tell you the tale of The Newt and the Boghead. A perfect model of symbiotic sustainability.

  18. Reports ,report… that Victor Wanyama, is Unhappy.

     

     

    He disnae want tae Play in Defense.

     

     

    He wants tae go tae The Premier League..

     

     

    He Hates the New Away Strip..

     

     

    and he has a Splitting Headache.

     

     

    Manchester United, have now joined Arsenal.. and Chelsea and Liverpool,in the race fur his Signature.

     

     

    Meanwhile, back at the Ranch..

     

     

    Peter .. is busily sitting Rubbing his Hauns.. whilst, sitting at his desk.

     

     

    Jist at that time Neil, Pops his Heid.. in.the Door-way..

     

     

    “Hey, Peter…. how”s it gauin’?”

     

     

    “Come in, come in. It’s Nice tae See Ye..

     

    How’s yersel? Ye’re Lookin’ Grand!”

     

     

    “You’re in a Guid Mood!”

     

     

    “So Ah am.. ” replies Peter.. Continues, tae Rub his Hauns.

     

     

    “So.. let me in oan it, tae”

     

     

    “Well, ye know that big Raw Laddie, Ah goat fae yon Belgian ootfit?”

     

     

    “Aye, Ah remember him Well.”

     

     

    “Well, it seems that suddenly.. the big Raw Laddie, has turned intae a “Sucker Magnet”.. and the Suckers are Lining Up!”

     

     

    “Ah know whit ye mean,pal.. Ain’t it a HOOT? How much d’ya figger we kin hit them fur?”

     

     

    ” Now that the Sucker List has Grown sae much.. Ah figger..

     

    Ten Million.. Easy!!”

     

     

    “Well.. whit ur we waitin’ fur,then?”

     

     

    “Let ’em stew.. a wee bit.. Canny Hoit? Right?

     

    Might even squeeze .. Twelve Million oota the wan who

     

    wins the Big Laudie’s Haun.”

     

     

    “And Then ,Ah suppose.. Ye wull Finally, be Able..

     

     

    Tae Stoap. Rubbin’ Yours?”

     

     

    “Ye goat . THAT right.. Pal!”

     

     

    Kojo

     

    Still Laughin’… like Hell.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Neil,

  19. Señor Pablo Diablo

     

     

    He is one of them

     

     

    However I think he sees what’s coming ….

  20. bournesouprecipe on 26 July, 2012 at 23:08 said:

     

     

    They’ve obviously been told of the huge hilarity spreading throughout Timdom and have been told to put a stop to it..

     

     

    They won’t be put back tomorrow and the season will start without them and even then the follow followers won’t believe.

     

     

    We’ll be next year won’t we Dad, Aye Son next year…

     

     

    The weeds starts to grow and the tumbleweed begins to blow across the desolate landscape of Asbestos Mansions…

  21. thebhoyfromoz on

    sftb

     

     

    Thank F*** for that, i thought the CIA were sending me subliminal messages.

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