Celtic box clever again, and the SFA know it. Aleks Tonev, who has a strong east-European accent and limited English, denies uttering racist comments against Aberdeen. Did he? He might well have, for all I know, but, with only one person contradicting Tonev, the SFA have no idea either.
When this issue first raised its head I don’t think anyone on CQN made a character reference for Aleks, but we concluded this issue was destined to remain unresolved, as there is simply not enough information to consider the matter. The SFA know this and know that the Court of Arbitration for Sport will find in favour of the player if they persist in trying to ban him for 7 games without collaboration.
Don’t let Barry Hearn fool you, it’s the SFA which is unfit for purpose, not the professional clubs or the SPFL.
It was great to see our very own Mouldy67 on the big screens on Wednesday for his Cycling Santa Appeal. He left London yesterday morning before resting up for the night in Birmingham. All going to plan, he’ll reach Glasgow on Monday.
Mouldy (Paul) is running to raise funds and awareness for Neuroblastoma Childrens’ Cancer Alliance in memory of Wee Oscar. It’s an incredible undertaking and a living example of the Celtic spirit brought to life.
You can follow his journey here, if you’re on Twitter, send him a good luck message, I know it will make a difference. More importantly, you keep tabs on his fundraising here.
I don’t get the notion, apparently widely held and reported by The Scotsman today, that Rangers (sic) cannot afford to sack Alloa McCoist (© Jobo). He’s on a contract which the club can continue to pay, while promoting Gordon Durie to first-team duties for little or no extra cash. They may even have a case to curtail their outlays to him. I can’t see how sacking him costs money in the short term, and let’s face it, that’s all this lot need to worry about.
Knowing where the bodies are buried
Super Alloa has seen the current directors, and all previous regimes right back to Murray, operating up close and personal. He knows which cupboards have skeletons lurking, while all of them will be aware of his contract negotiations, and what he has, or has not, been prepared to do for the club. It’s a classic co-dependency situation. You don’t sack the guy who knows what you don’t want revealed.
There is also the small matter of management priorities. Would the captain of the Titanic have sacked the chef for a lousy meal after they’d hit an iceberg?
If you’ve not been involved with the Celtic Foundation before there’s a great opportunity coming up next week. They’re looking for bucketeers ahead of the St Mirren game on Sunday, 14 December, to help raise money for the Christmas Appeal.
One of the beneficiaries of the Christmas Appeal is Glasgow City Mission, who provide emergency accommodation for the homeless, a dedicated Foodbank and an evening drop-in service that feeds those who are impoverished and in need of a proper meal, for, on average, 130 men and women each evening.
Graham Steven of the Mission said, “We are extremely grateful to Celtic FC Foundation and Celtic supporters for their continued generosity.
“Their much-needed financial contributions make the work of Glasgow City Mission possible. In particular, by funding our Older Men’s lunch club, you are providing a safe space for people to come and enjoy lunch and social companionship.
“Loneliness and isolation are significant factors in many of our clients’ lives – you are helping to turn that around, improving lives and strengthening communities – thank you!”
So next week, you can turn up to Celtic Park a wee bit earlier, get to meet hundreds of cheery Celtic fans, get a ticket to the game, and help to feed, shelter and provide companionship for the city’s homeless.
I spent most of the year not doing this kind of work, so I think I need to be there with a bucket next week. You are cordially invited to pick up your own bucket, email cfcfoundation@celticfc.co.uk or call here 0141 551 4291 now, before you forget about it. More info here. We’re lucky to be on the right side of the bucket campaign.
CQN Annual 2015 will be coming off the presses next week, order yours here in time for Christmas. There’s tons more on CQNBookstore.
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Neganon .iluminate me…
I have the pleasure of spending the afternoon with 1 of the great Celtic fans I have met on my journey in life tomorrow ( in front of the telly ) watching the HOOPS of course. Wish I was going to the game, getting addicted to the away games, but on Wednesday night I stood admiring the almost empty stadium early doors, glad it filled up and if any one reading this is tempted to return to Paradise after an absence for what ever reason like me just do it. You will have no regrets, great place filled with great people with integrity.
Neganon…you vote for INDEPENDENCE….
Eddiegreenhillsbhoy
You have mail ;)
NegAnon2
23:03 on
5 December, 2014
Martybhoy all of the accidents which involved deaths and drink drivers where with drink drivers well over the old limit. So I repeat how is this gonna help?
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Butting in here but , Neganon, how do you know that there were not cases where people were killed and alcohol , albeit not over the legal limit , was a factor?
It will only be cases where the drivers are prosecuted for causing death while over the limit that the alcohol factor will be mentioned.
I’m pretty sure there will have been deaths involving drivers not over the legal limit, or , more accurately , not over the threshold for prosecution, where the impact of alcohol consumption on judgement or reaction times contributed to the accident and , by extension , the death.
Had a good scroll back there and really enjoyed the debate around the new drink drive limits.
I’ve never knowingly driven whilst over the limit. If I’ve known I was driving that same day or evening I’ve never had more than 1 pint (usually 2 shandies!). But it’s probable only in the last few years that I’ve become much more aware of the ‘morning after’ issue. And that’s still something that could do with some clarification, notwithstanding the fact that there are so many factors to take into account –
> when you started and stopped drinking the previous evening
> how many units you had during that period
> how much sleep you’ve had
There have been plenty of times where I’ve maybe had, say several pints and a bottle of wine without really thinking what time I was driving the next day. Last Friday for example I had just over half of a bottle of 14% red and 4 bottles of, I think, 4.2% beer. That was between about 7.30 and 11.00. Is it likely that I was over the limit when I drove on Saturday morning at 9.00am?
Haven’t drank at all tonight but planning tomorrow night to have the best part of a bottle of wine, several beers and a curry. Can I drive on Sunday before noon?
I realise there would be dangers in issuing guidelines but surely some sort of rule of thumb would help. The current advertising campaign on the radio is along the lines of “so how much can you drink and be under the limit…a pint?…2 glasses of wine…actually, it’s much less than that…”. Now that’s fine in that it gets the message over about not driving immediately after having any alcohol. But it doesn’t really give any guidance on driving after a decent period of time has elapsed since your last drink.
The thought of anyone driving when over the limit is a real bug bear of mine. I once threatened my own brother that the police would be waiting at his driveway if he drove home from a night out we were on. So it gets back to my opening statement – if we KNOW we’re over the limit then driving should not be considered. But do we always know (i.e. the next day…)?
Jobo
Yawn
Just in from the blane – great day and night hh to all the cqners who I had the privilege of meeting – big thanks to pf Ayr who made it happen -magic hh
Not surprising that the police are not charging Tonev. There is not a shred of evidence that could bring a charge against him. Only the SFA could embarrass themselves in such a way.
Jobo- ever thought it might just be about helping mr houses arrest figures??? Surely not
Sipsini
First time it has happened to me in all the years attending Paradise.
No very nice, but worse things have happened at sea.
jobo baldie
Interesting point, there needs to be more education and/or information brought into the public domain in relation to how long people should wait before driving after drinking if that makes sense.
Wooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooo
I’m through :))
Please dont let me get those sharks SFTB & Sipsini in the next round draw :))))))))))))))
Jamesforrest
Stoaaaaaaaaaap listening to the radio :)))) and keep writing
Jamesgang
One foot in front of the other my friend,
The Beatles – With A Little Help From My Friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBDF04fQKtQ
The long wait is over. I think the statistics are that its drivers well over the limit. But I can’t prove that.
You can be pretty sure but there is no evidence. None.
johann murdoch –
I take your point. But even if there hadn’t been any reduction in the limit I’d still be unsure (and only slightly less worried) about when I should be driving the morning after…
Anyway, not too quick on the keyboard and planned to be in bed half an hour ago but then decided to post something ;-). If there are any specific replies I’ll catch them on my morning scroll back.
The ole Friday Music Night’s a bit late in starting tonight… ;-)
BGX still on the single issue.
You are forgetting that this is all happening with a scottish govt so you ain’t making sense.
david147- Been reported that Tonev may have had 2 beers and a glass of wine the night before the game, SFA now want to do him for drunk driving.
BGX look it up on you tube……..
Just a question between us Celtic supporters on here…
Have any of us on here ever found songs sung by our support offensive?…and if so..nane them…
Some scaremongering on here, particularly by Exiled Tim (why get involved when not in this country)….. bought myself top of the range breathalyser weeks ago, been checking myself regularly since and I know exactly what I can drink and what I cannot ,then drive. Not wishing to lull people into a false sense of security but its not nearly as bad as made out. .Of more concern is next morning obviously, but this business about having four pints night before and failing a breathalyser next morning is bollocks as far as I am concerned. Incidentallyt I am less than average height and quite light built.
I recall a number of years ago there was a hotline to shop drivers who had more than enough.
Anonimity was the key.
I also recall it worked.
I agree that it’s not about stopping road deaths, money and arrest figures are what it’s all about.
HH
Jobo Baldie,
I’d guess , on those figures, that you have ( as I’m sure I probably have) unwittingly driven the next morning while over the limit.
Using your example “Last Friday for example I had just over half of a bottle of 14% red and 4 bottles of, I think, 4.2% beer. That was between about 7.30 and 11.00. Is it likely that I was over the limit when I drove on Saturday morning at 9.00am?”
Change the hours from morning to night. Would you ever drive at 9pm in the (admittedly unlikely ) event that you stopped drinking half a bottle of red and 4 beers at 11.00 am. You probably wouldn’t even consider it.
As a very rough rule I would say now, even before today’s new rules, that if I feel at all rough from the night before I simply don’t drive.
Exslaemuirbhoy
Was at Paisley this season and loved the atmosphere fae the away Bhoys. Going to my 2nd away this season tomorrow. Will gargle for the sing song in Fir Park.
corkcelt
I think its a wee bit different in Alba
In Munster (and Ulster) of you’re stopped you maybe know the guard.
It happened me once in Monaghan and when I examined that I would opt for a urine test rather than a BT
The doctor and me got o well
Initially I was told that I could nt drink waster but ads time went by she agreed that I could do just that
I supplied them
With tap water
I was given a container of my
Sample
I knew a guy in Belfast sho worked in the analysis
Neganon..so may i ask what age are you?
BGX of course. 47. Why do you ask?
Jobo Baldie
23:16 on
5 December, 2014
very sensible post, that is what it is all about. the drink driver deserves to get caught, but for the normal person who wouldn’t dream of it, at what point are you ok the next day??
The new limit is probably just about on the mark in that respect, however a zero limit doesn’t work, you can be perfectly sober the next morning but still have a small alcohol content in your system, a zero limit would ban you the same as the drunk driver with ten pints in him, the balance needs to be right
the long wait is over
23:15 on 5 December, 2014
NegAnon2
23:03 on
5 December, 2014
Martybhoy all of the accidents which involved deaths and drink drivers where with drink drivers well over the old limit. So I repeat how is this gonna help?
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Butting in here but , Neganon, how do you know that there were not cases where people were killed and alcohol , albeit not over the legal limit , was a factor?
It will only be cases where the drivers are prosecuted for causing death while over the limit that the alcohol factor will be mentioned.
I’m pretty sure there will have been deaths involving drivers not over the legal limit, or , more accurately , not over the threshold for prosecution, where the impact of alcohol consumption on judgement or reaction times contributed to the accident and , by extension , the death.
Long wait is over
No problem with you butting in particularly as I agree with you, neganons argument appears to suggest that it is only those drivers who are over the old limit are the only ones involved in alcohol related road accidents
Neganon
I know it is an old study but consider the following
a 1998 study by the Department for the Environment, Transport and the Regions which suggested that between 50mg and 80mg, drivers were 2-2.5% more likely to be involved in a collision than those who had not touched alcohol at all, and six times more likely to be involved in a fatal crash.
Jeromek67
Are you for real ?
I will check with you before I post then, is that how it works ?
And can you direct me to one single post where I was scaremongering since you have accused me, It’s the least you can do.
Jobo
You have mail.
Two pints and your OK to drive mob , utterly pathetic, usual tossers joining in to claim some sort of police conspiracy ………..
HH
BGX
North men, south men with the Protestant appendage used to make me cringe. Thankfully Dublin, Belfast, Cork & Donegal is being sung today.
Eddiegreenhillsbhoy
In reply to your request young 21 year old son of Toffeetim very very interested in being a candidate for your vacancy.
Email and phone details forwarded.
Hail Hail thank you.
Ellbhoy what are you talking about??
Good night all
Listened to this in the car today
Roger Waters
Radio Kaos
Me or him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNCRNkd_pmw&list=PLTsXGTrwUPXNQPiMzXpTPdeybYnGUtub7
Who Needs Information
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXKZNQvYB24
Neganon im 58…imo this country has improved in regards to secterianism by a million miles…it maybe not the way you see it, but hey, we differ, aint no thing…but i may add..
That i have improved also…i dont see things the way i did….maybe its because the huns ate deid to me…i dont think my country is perfect…but in the last ..say 15 years ive growin to like it….and now im comfortable in my country….
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BGX,
Why are you asking another question,
you didn’t believe the answers that posters gave to your last one
BGX I remember a song called bang bang that the celtic fans adopted. I never sang it but it was horrible. I also remember the monkey chants and bananas at Walters. She,evil day.
We have moved on since then though.