Fabulous goals from Gary Hooper and Victory Wanyama put Celtic back on winning ways, their first victory in four games in September but Dundee held out until minutes before the break, aided by an excellent performance from Rab Douglas.
Another ex-Celt, Gary Irvine, had a penalty claim 7 minutes in but the ref wasn’t convinced; Irvine’s tumble was a tad overdramatic. Celtic were cut open on 15 minutes when Colin Nish found space inside the box but his shot was blocked. The rebound broke to John Baird who should have converted but fired over the bar.
A minute later Lassad, making his home debut, dribbled to the edge of the six yard box when he appeared to be tripped but again referee, Beaton, denied the claim.
Kris Commons then stepped up the pressure. His cross was dummied by Lassad but Gary Hooper’s shot was saved. Commons then played a diagonal ball through to Lassad who shot wide.
Charlie Mulgrew brought a good save from Douglas from a free kick on the edge of the D after Wanyama was brought down. The Dundee keeper then topped that effort with a save from Forrest after a good cutback from Lassad, before saving again from the same player a minute later.
Lassad’s movement eventually brought a reward when Beaton pointed to the penalty spot after the former Deportivo striker had his legs clipped. Scott Brown has been reliable from the spot this year but this effort didn’t get anywhere near the post, allowing Rab Douglas another opportunity to show what he can do.
Brown made amends a minute before the break when his forward pass was collected by Gary Hooper. Hooper still had a lot to do but nutmeged his marker before firing home, from an angle, into the far corner.
The advantage was almost doubled a minute into the second half when Gary Irvine tried to chest the ball back to Rab Douglas but found the post instead, however, Dundee were two behind three minutes later.
Victor Wanyama shot low and hard from 26 yards, clipping the inside of the post before crossing the line.
Lassad almost opened his scoring account for Celtic with a good header but Rab Douglas was a match to the attempt again. Tony Watt used his impressive strength to get a cross to Gary Hooper, who steadied before shooting against the upright.
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Scotland on Sunday
By GRAHAM SPIERS
Published on Sunday 23 September 2012 01:25
THE SCOTTISH Premier League has amassed a “stack of evidence” concerning Rangers’ use of Employee Benefit Trusts (EBTs) and alleged dual contracts which is to be investigated by the Independent Commission chaired by the retired judge Lord William Nimmo Smith.
Sources at the SPL claim that various routes had been used – including a reluctant Rangers FC itself – to obtain documents relating to the incomes of various players at Ibrox, via EBTs, in the years between 2000 and 2011. The three-man commission, which comprises Lord Nimmo Smith, Nicholas Smith QC and Charles Flint QC, will sit for four days from 13 November to determine Rangers’ guilt or innocence in regard to payments or undisclosed loans to players.
The SPL has warned Rangers, who have said they will not acknowledge the commission, that such a stance could be potentially self-harming should the commission’s verdict go against the Ibrox club and it chooses to appeal.
Meanwhile, Nimmo Smith has explained why, contrary to the claims of Rangers chief executive Charles Green, he believes “oldco” Rangers and the current Rangers FC represent one entity and thus still fall within the SPL’s jurisdiction. Green and Rangers believe that, as their “newco” is not and never has been a member of the SPL, the appointed commission has no jurisdiction over it. But Nimmo Smith has countered that view.
“It is the club, not the owner, who plays in the league,” he said. “The rules clearly contemplate sanctions upon a club, in distinction to upon the owner or operator. That power must continue to apply, even if the owner at the time of [any] breach of rules has ceased to be a member of the SPL and its undertaking has passed to another owner or operator.”
As for any lapse in time since any alleged breaches by Rangers occurred, Nimmo Smith added: “To take a hypothetical example of a club which has been engaged in match-fixing but is then relegated and consequently ceases to be a member of the SPL – there is every reason why it should still be liable to disciplinary action, whether or not the breach comes to light before or after the club has relinquished its SPL membership.”
But Nimmo Smith went on to add: “We stress that the commission has not yet come to the stage of deciding whether there have been any breaches of rules at all by either ‘oldco’ or Rangers FC.”
Nimmo Smith also admitted he had to re-assert his own impartiality in the looming investigation, after Rangers objected to him being appointed chair of the commission. It has emerged that Rangers initially es at the SPL claim that various routes had been used – including a reluctant Rangers FC itself – to obtain documents relating to the incomes of various players at Ibrox, via EBTs, in the years between 2000 and 2011. The three-man commission, which comprises Lord Nimmo Smith, Nicholas Smith QC and Charles Flint QC, will sit for four days from 13 November to determine Rangers’ guilt or innocence in regard to payments or undisclosed loans to players.
The SPL has warned Rangers, who have said they will not acknowledge the commission, that such a stance could be potentially self-harming should the commission’s verdict go against the Ibrox club and it chooses to appeal.
Meanwhile, Nimmo Smith has explained why, contrary to the claims of Rangers chief executive Charles Green, he believes “oldco” Rangers and the current Rangers FC represent one entity and thus still fall within the SPL’s jurisdiction. Green and Rangers believe that, as their “newco” is not and never has been a member of the SPL, the appointed commission has no jurisdiction over it. But Nimmo Smith has countered that view.
“It is the club, not the owner, who plays in the league,” he said. “The rules clearly contemplate sanctions upon a club, in distinction to upon the owner or operator. That power must continue to apply, even if the owner at the time of [any] breach of rules has ceased to be a member of the SPL and its undertaking has passed to another owner or operator.”
As for any lapse in time since any alleged breaches by Rangers occurred, Nimmo Smith added: “To take a hypothetical example of a club which has been engaged in match-fixing but is then relegated and consequently ceases to be a member of the SPL – there is every reason why it should still be liable to disciplinary action, whether or not the breach comes to light before or after the club has relinquished its SPL membership.”
But Nimmo Smith went on to add: “We stress that the commission has not yet come to the stage of deciding whether there have been any breaches of rules at all by either ‘oldco’ or Rangers FC.”
Nimmo Smith also admitted he had to re-assert his own impartiality in the looming investigation, after Rangers objected to him being appointed chair of the commission. It has emerged that Rangers initially objected to Nimmo Smith’s appointment to the investigation, after he had already fulfilled a similar role for the SFA over a separate Rangers case in May. That report led to the SFA charging Craig Whyte and the Ibrox club with bringing the game into disrepute.
Rangers subsequently dropped their concerns over Nimmo Smith, but the former Supreme Court judge admits he was forced to consider his position. “It is well understood that a judge, or anyone performing a quasi-judicial function, must be free not only of actual bias, but also of apparent bias,” said Nimmo Smith. “Our commission has given careful consideration to this question and has concluded that the fair-minded observer would not conclude there would be any possibility that the chairman was biased.”
The SPL has come under pressure over an alleged offer to Rangers to accept a retrospective stripping of titles – an offer made before any Rangers guilt had been established – but Nimmo Smith emphasised his investigation would be independent and free from influence by the SPL or anyone else.
“It is fundamental to any body with investigatory power, such as this commission, that we act independent to the person or body [SPL] appointing us,” he said. “In reaching our final determination we shall exercise our own judgment in accordance with natural justice, unfettered by the influence of the [SPL] board or anyone else. None of us would have accepted this appointment on any other basis.”
Nimmo Smith added that, despite Rangers’ open contempt for the investigation, he still hoped the Ibrox club would change its mind and come forward and participate in the process.
Gordon Waddell Sunday Mail
Lord Nimmo Smith blasts Rangers chief Charles Green for querying independence of EBT panel
THE judge in charge of the probe into Rangers’ use of EBT payment schemes has hit back at the Ibrox supremo for doubting his impartiality.
LORD Nimmo Smith has hit back strongly at Rangers chief executive Charles Green for questioning the independence of his EBT tribunal.
The Ibrox supremo has already been charged by the SFA for questioning the impartiality of the commission appointed by the SPL.
And in a heavyweight statement released on the SPL website, the Law Lord insisted neither he nor QCs Nicholas Stewart and Charles Flint would have accepted the job if they didn’t think their credentials were beyond reproach.
The panel was set up by the SPL to establish if Rangers had broken league rules on the non-disclosure of payments in player contracts over an 11-year spell.
Green, however, refused to recognise or co-operate with the commission, branding it “supposedly” independent and claiming the SPL had already set the outcome.
Nimmo Smith’s document vehemently denies that – and then goes on to explain at length why Rangers’ “Newco” owners can still be held liable for any punishments dished out.
In an opening passage entitled “our independence”, he said: “In most cases, it would not be necessary to discuss this topic but in the circumstances we think it appropriate to do so.
“It’s fundamental to the constitution of a body with investigatory and disciplinary powers that it must act independently of the person or body appointing it.
“In reaching our final determination … and in making any incidental decisions, we shall exercise our own judgment, on the basis of the evidence. None of us would have accepted this appointment on any other basis.”
Nimmo Smith also sharply defended his own right to chair the committee after Rangers’ lawyers raised doubts over his impartiality. They cited his previous chairmanship of an SFA Special Committee looking into any breaches of their articles by “Oldco”.
However, he hit back and revealed in his report: “In a letter dated 23 August, solicitors for Newco expressed concerns about the appointment of the Chairman. While it expressly did not allege actual bias… it suggested that by reason of his previous Chairmanship of the SFA Special Committee the Chairman might not be seen to be impartial.
“Following receipt of this letter authorisation was obtained from the Board of the SFA – to whom the Special Committee’s report remained confidential – to disclose to the solicitors the terms of the two paragraphs of the report in which reference was made to the EBT, together with two preceding formal passages to explain the context.
“Newco did not respond to the Commission on this point, and in the event no application has been made that the Chairman should recuse himself from these proceedings.
“The question is whether the fair-minded and informed observer, having considered the facts, would conclude that there was a real possibility that the tribunal was biased.
“Bearing this test in mind, the Chairman, in consultation with the other two members of the Commission, has concluded that the fair-minded and informed observer would not conclude there was a real possibility that the Chairman was biased.”
Rangers are still refusing to co-operate with the tribunal, despite hints that their failure to do so could cripple them at the appeals stage.
However, Nimmo Smith said: “We wish to emphasise that … the door remains open for Oldco and Newco to appear and be represented.”
Tam Cowan
ITALIA BHOY…..
Greetings from a very wet Lithuania. (It’s Baltic out there). Many thanks for your book review. Might be worth your while putting it up on Amazon as well, to counteract other malicious reviews which it will inevitably attract. The more 5 star reviews it gets (overall) the better. Thanks again,
DBB
They’ve Learned Nothing – By Mike Small – Bella Caledonia
The idea of Rangers as some sort of parable of our times is becoming compelling. A club riven by debt and mired in bad practice collapses under the weight of it’s own illegality and bad management, then lashes out at everyone around them in a perpetual circle of self-deceit.
Perhaps having been given – what they perceive to be outrageous punishment and what many consider hardly any punishment at all – they might reflect on the financial models they’d pursued and considered how sound they were? They might have reflected on the culture of the club and considered a root and branch overhaul was required? Contrition might be a good idea. You’d think.
Instead we get the £1 Million Crossbar Challenge .
But it’s not all their fault. A pliant and unquestioning media continue to exacerbate the problem. What could have been a watershed moment for Scottish football and sports journalism continues to be a missed opportunity.
On the day when the truth about the Sun, the police and the Hillsborough Disaster cover-up finally comes to the cold light of day, it’s worth thinking about this. This is the day when we discovered how 96 men, women and children met their horrible deaths and how unforgivable lies about the Liverpool fans’ behaviour came to be spread (and recycled by The Sun), and further how there was a systematic cover-up involving police and politicians, as the victims’ families believed all along.
The paper is still bought by millions of people, it’s former editor Kelvin Mackenzie is aregular on BBC Question Time, one helluva
The report by the Hillsborough independent panel, established three years ago and chaired by the bishop of Liverpool, James Jones, found that there was a failure of authorities to protect people and an attempt to blame fans.
The panel concluded that the main cause of the Hillsborough disaster was a “failure in police control” but also revealed “multiple failures” within other organisations that compromised crowd safety. It underlined the “clear operational failure” that led to the disaster and the attempts by South Yorkshire police (SYP) and the ambulance service to cover up their shortcomings. The fact that the ambulance service also altered statements from staff is revealed for the first time. The evidence shows “conclusively” that Liverpool fans “neither caused nor contributed to the deaths” and shows the extent to which attempts, endorsed by the South Yorkshire chief constable Peter Wright, were made to smear them.
As writer Owen Jones has said on Twitter: “Blood was taken from the fans to check for alcohol, including children.” #jft96“
Documents released to the panel show how high-ranking police sources, the South Yorkshire Police Federation and the Tory MP Irvine Patnick were responsible for feeding the stories to White’s News Agency in Yorkshire.
You can see the report here. Hillsborough Independent Panel
This is just an appalling litany of malpractice and deception. But it was only made possible only by a tabloid press and a whole cultural backdrop which can be summarised as: hating ordinary people and holding ridiculous deference to authority.
Consider the press in Scotland and the Club Formerly Known as Rangers.
An early account of this is outlined at Rangers Tax Case but the problem persists in language and lack of editorial enquiry to this day. What people want more than anything else is ‘for things to go back the way they were.’ The EBT scandal is treated as a sort of irrelevance now as is Sir David Murray’s involvement who still holds a spectacularly inappropriate position of high regard in Scottish society.
As RTC states:
“Once the First Tier Tribunal (Tax) finally rules, the SFA will have to act. If, as I expect, that the FTT finds that Rangers had been knowingly operating an illegal implementation of the EBT scheme, it would discredit every trophy ever won in Scottish football if the honours acquired by Rangers during this time are not withdrawn.”
Little if anything is said about this from the 3rd Estate. Now the Sun, who’s own credibility surely after the Hillsborough inquiry can not ever have been at a lower ebb, seems to be kowtowing to threats and intimidation – a persistent motif of Rangers culture.
A book detailing the downfall of the great institution was first trumpeted as a scoop then buried after complaints from Rangers fans. It’s an extraordinary example of how the press has a complete lack of faith or integrity and how little has been learned in the past extraordinary year.
The Scottish edition of the paper had planned to start running extracts today from a book entitled Downfall: how Rangers FC self-destructed by the journalist Phil Mac Giolla Bhain.
But within 24 hours of its lengthy puff announcing its serialisation the paper ran a leading article explaining that it had changed its mind. The reason given reason was a blog from earlier this year called The Incubator, it was a satire on the bigotry of many Rangers’ fans. It employed some pretty offensive images. But you could only really be offended by it in the same way as you’d think Mr Swift was actually advocating eating Irish babies.
The ironies of this are threefold.
1) The Sun boldly featuring an investigation into the biggest sporting scandal in Scottish history, folds under pressure from that club, with Ramsay Smith from Media House said the Sun would have no access to Ibrox if they published.
2) It was The Sun’s Scottish editor, Andy Harries, who admired Mac Giolla Bhain’s work and, on hearing about his book, made a swift decision to buy the serialisation.
3) Yet a story about lies and liars takes a further twist as the Sun claimed they didn’t know Phil’s work. But Mac Giolla Bhain was well known to The Sun, having previously freelanced for the its now-defunct stablemate, the News of the World.
Finally as we consider the role of The Sun in British society, here’s the verdict of Guardian’s Roy Greenslade on why the Sun stopped publishing extracts from Downfall:
“Two experienced non-Sun journalists, both of whom did not favour serialisation, read the situation differently. They believe Harries was shocked by the hostility of Rangers fans and feared a possible sales boycott not unlike the one that the paper suffered after its infamous accusation against Liverpool fans following the 1989 Hillsborough tragedy.”
You couldn’t make it up. Unless you were a Sun journalist that is.
Now it seems the efforts to suppress this book look to have completely failed. I’m told it’s outselling Fifty Shades of Grey in Waterstone’s Edinburgh branch, and is last week it climbed to be at No 8 in Amazon’s UK rankings and stayed there for two days.
Good Morning Bhoys, From a bright but cold Airdrie, Day with the cubs, But ill be on and off all day, hoping for a Laugh at the formers and a few intresting topics here and there.
Have a good one.
KLV
Top of the morning to you all from a beautiful Fife bathed in autumnal sunshine.
ItaliaBhoy in his critique of “Downfall” raises an interesting point about the difference between them and us thus:
“Phil believes Celtic fans are natural rebels, and suspicious of authority, whereas Rangers fans, coming from a priveleged position in the industrial working class, are naturally deferential.”
I think that he is spot on with this observation. For instance this morning while the Huns are salivating over Chuckie posing with fans for photos resplendent in Orange strip, in similar circumstances I would be raging and demanding to know how this clown had managed to get control of my club.
Vive la différence
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Thanks for the book review,I’ll get it for Christmas and thanks for the link for Wee Oscar appeal, The wee man still has some way to go, The work you guys do is unreal. Totally selfless and rare in this world we live in now. Awesome. Anyway I love this site and I am glad and proud to be part of this community even if we don’t always agree its always good for a laugh and debate. ; )
ps good fight Ricky………..
KLV
This is a good piece by Tom English in SoS today:
We Need to Know What Happened
Essentially, it describes why the SFA/SPL attempt to gerrymander a convenient solution to the Rangers shenanigans while ignoring the rules and procedures risks compromising the outcome of the Nimmo Smith Inquiry.
Of course, you and I know why it was convenient for SFA and SPL to ensure that the whole issue of Rangers fielding ineligible players never saw the light of day – the prickly issue of the SFA and SPL being served by Directors who were actually implementing the scam that bent the Game.
But we’ll get to that later…
themightyquinn
Hidemyass – what are you trying to hide ?
My IP
You can get the highlights a bit earlier by pretending you’re overseas
But it doesn’t always work
:(
Anybody got a link to the goals yesterday? Missed the game :-)
HH
CRC
I see the Holy Goalie is now a Saint.
BIG NAN
About 16 months ago,I told my hun mates they’d be better off wi me taking their club over than Craig Whyte.
This new fella and the zombies are a match made in heaven. F… them,they deserve to be ripped off.
I think I despise this new lot more than I despised the old lot,which is some going,Charliebhoy.
Well three points secured yesterday and a debut for our new centre half, if only a short one. The debut that is; I understand Ambrose is quite tall.
Great that Dylan is fit and playing again. That was a nasty injury and he has got over it well.
BMCUWP
It is difficult to feel any sympathy for them when they are so gullible.
Hoops legend Efetobore Ambrose Emuobo is 1.93689457291m tall [approx.]
A lovely day in pittenweem. Up here for the holiday weekend so missed the game yesterday.
How did lassad ?look
celticrollercoaster loves wee oscar’s green bucket army
10:03 on
23 September, 2012
Sorry no link, I got into the game a couple of minutes before Hooper scored the first goal, it was like they waited for me to get there, Broonie even deliberately missed a penalty so I’d see the goals!
CRC, why did you miss the game, were you otherwise occupied? ;-)
Brilliant stuff mate. Feel very humbled to have been part of your army.
themightyquinn
Good thinking :-)
Gordon J- with my admittedly less than perfect eyesight, the only way I could differentiate between Ambrose and Wanyama was that one was wearing short sleeves, the other long sleeves.
We have another brick s***hoose.
midfield maestro
p/time supporter I’m afraid. We will need to catch up for a beer with Smashing Milk Bottles soon in one of our local establishments.
HH
CRC
maleys bhoy
I thought he played very well, good movement, linked up well with Hooper & plenty of nice touches. Very unlucky not to score on more than one occassion. Had a brilliant header, from corner, saved by Big Rab.
My opinion, a very good debut.
Doc is Neil Lennon
10:20 on
23 September, 2012
I did have a wee word with Neil before the game :-)
HH
CRC
Thanks midfield maestro. Sounds like a good addition.
First post in ages, just been reading back on the bucketeers’ comments from yesterday. A big well done to each and every one of you, God bless wee Oscar and the Celtic family.
I would also like to pass on my thanks to the supporter who found my dad’s Benfica ticket just off Springfield Road on Wednesday night and handed it in to the ticket office rather than selling it on. The ticket office were able to trace my dad’s details and phoned him to tell him they had the ticket available to be picked up – needless to say that having just discovered the ticket wasn’t in his pocket, he was both delighted and relieved.
If the person who is responsible is a CQNer and is reading this, a very big Thank You.
goldstar10,
Exectly what we need in a centre half
Wee snippet from Andrew Smith in SoS:
…his [McCoist’s] cup wounds pre-date the demise of the old Rangers. Indeed, they were central to the club’s financial collapse.
He cautions that Rangers aren’t the same team as five years, two years, or even five months ago. Yet, the side that missed out on millions in failing to win any of their four European qualifiers last summer, notably flunking out at home against Malmo and Maribor, was the Rangers of Nikica Jelavic, Allan McGregor, Steven Naismith, Steven Davis, Steven Whittaker et al.
All those players were in situ when Falkirk inflicted another first-time flop in the League Cup last August.
And when Dundee United dismantled McCoist’s men at Ibrox in the Scottish Cup fifth round come the February of a brutal campaign – a week before the club plunged into administration – it made for the first time since 1950-51 that Rangers hadn’t made at least the quarter-finals in either of the major domestic cups in the same season.
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Seems he’s not a fat Paul Le Guen.
He’s just fat.
Plenty of copies of Downfall available today at Waterstones Sauchiehall St Glasgow.
What are the chances of the Mothers ‘dismantling’ the Zombies on Wednesday night?
All twent y outfield players will be shootin’ the same way.
Good Bright and Chilly Sunday morning CQN.
Just a wee note to add to all those who have previously commented on Wee Oscar 4 Life Green Army Bucket Collection.
Having being afforded the duties of official photographer yesterday I was able to go around Celtic Park and meet (hopefully) all the Celts, BHOYS & GHIRLS, young and old and a couple or more volunteers who while giving their time were in fact also living with their own personal battles with health. After being involved previously in the Bringing Martin home campaign I didn’t believe their was anything more our clubs faithful support could do to surprise me. But again, yesterday, the numbers of people who gave up their time, their money, their vocal chords, their wearying muscles and their smiles was just amazing. And then there was the support in general who came to Celtic Park prepared to part with their hard earned money.
It truly was a humbling experience to take part in and witness.
I met many good folks albeit for only a few mins each, Celtic supporters, CQN’ers, KDS’ers, CelticMinders, people with no interest in football who came with their families and even 4 Rangers supporters who held a bucket each and wore a Wee Oscar 4 Life tshirt. I met ghuys and Ghirls I already count as friends and many more I had never met before. Sadly my memory is crap with names and I have a fair mix of faces in my head most likely attached and saved with the wrong name to them. I’m pretty sure I’ll have my Petec’s mixed up with my Che’s.
I also got to meet Oscars dad Stephen and some of their friends and family enjoying a beer or 2 later in the evening in Pivo Pivo (used to be a Sevco pub but it’s alright now) for the KDS fund raiser organised by DennistonKev. It was a great night!
Anyway. So as not to blabber on further as I could go on all day talking about yesterday I’ll reign it in here except to say a big shout out to all the organisers, Team Leaders & Vilunteers. You know who you are. Thanks Ghuys n Ghirls.
Lastly. Before I disappear for a couple of hours to upload all the Pics my last shout out is for Wee Oscar himself. I really can’t wait for the day when Wee Oscar story is no longer so prominent. A day when him and his family once again can enjoy being inconspicuous like the rest of us. A day when they are able to enjoy their family life just as it should be. As their families life. Roll on that day.
As ever my thoughts and prayers are with Wee Oscar, Izzie, Leona & Stephen.
Hail! Hail!
MWD
CRC,
have the donations from the small change for Oscar to be paid
into the just giving page or are you collecting them to put
in as one donation,i am back from holiday and have a couple
of quid to contribute
ItaliaBhoy
Not read your review of ‘Downfall’ because I finally received my copy on Friday – still reading it.
Will read your review when I have finished it.
Expecting it to have a happy ending – for us that is!
HH!!