Celtic curiously stretched in central defence

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Neil Lennon has been fluid with his team formations in recent weeks.  As a result, three central defenders, Efe Ambrose, Kelvin Wilson and Charlie Mulgew could each be regarded as first choice picks, although Ambrose and Mulgrew have also been deployed in midfield.  Ambrose has featured in all nine games since the beginning of December, while Wilson has featured in eight and Mulgrew in seven.

Add to the picture the fact that fourth-choice central defender, Thomas Rogne, has appeared in eight of those nine games, missing only the replay against Arbroath, and our central defenders look curiously stretched.  Much has been made of the proximity of Efe Ambrose potential involvement in the African Cup of Nations to Celtic’s Champions League tie with Juventus, but the numbers suggest a vacancy exists beyond this tie, hence the recruitment of Rami Gershon, who will join on a six month trial, pending a work permit, with a permanent transfer agreed in principle, pending performance between now and May.

Gershon, 24, has kicked around Standard Liege for three years without making a discernible impact, but he is an experienced international who fits the profile of a non-critical recruit, competing as fourth of fifth choice central defender.  His six-month objective will be to secure Thomas Rogne’s place in next season’s squad.  The try-before-you-buy strategy we discussed earlier this week will ensure Neil Lennon has a player keen to impress whenever he gets an opportunity. Sound squad management.

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  1. Just listened to the shortbread piece on reconstruction, to be honest I FF some of it as wiggy’s voice does my heid in.

     

     

    Anyway after numerous assurances that deaad club will not be fast tracked. When asked by one of the panel how clubs will be chosen to compete in the top 2 divisions of 12.

     

     

    Wiggy then says they will have to meet the criteria.

     

     

    FFS that says it all.

  2. Stop getting your knickers in a twist about jabbas classless article…

     

    Ove not even read it ….

     

    I DONT CARE .

     

    Neither should you all ..

     

    THEY REACTION YOU ARE ALL GIVING IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR !

     

    to cement their own fans backing …

     

    To KEEP those fans interested .

     

     

    Laugh and ignore

  3. west csc

     

     

    Im not one of those celtic men who wear the green and white colours during the day

     

    then wrap themselves up in their union jack continental quilts at bedtime like a few on here

     

    I will be voting yes to independance !

  4. Please ignore if not interested in the politics debate,

     

     

    west csc

     

     

    20:31 on 8 January, 2013

     

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    Perhaps I can help

     

    Imagine the 6 Counties got out of the UK and it was a stand-alone state ran by Loyalists for loyalists and the establishment were pro the dominant/majority community. Then they set up an Orange Party for working class prods ( as seems to be happening currently with the flag protest, start of a new Party) the same thing will happen in an independent Scotland

     

     

    The current allies of the SNP are the Greens and the Socialists who both oppose Catholic schools.

     

     

    The Police and many parts of Govt are institutionally sectarian.

     

     

    The SNP govt ordered the destruction of evidence gathered on sectarian related offences as it would show disproportionate offences against Catholics.

     

     

    SNP govt has never had a Catholic in its Cabinet (ie a Cabinet Secretary) same employment practices as the old RFC.

     

     

    SNP Sectarian Behaviour Act to make it easier to convict Catholic Celtic supporters of offensive behaviour to even crime rate with the bigots and racists.

     

     

    Scotland would be an economic basket case I dont know if we will be in Europe have the Euro, Sterling or a Scottish currency. We dont have an opt-out on the euro rebate and we will need border controls at the border.

     

     

    Oil revenues due to decline as the amount of oil declines as it becomes more difficult to drill for the oil wells may have many barrels left but no oil well is totally worked to the last barrel 30% or 40 % is usually left as it is un-economic to drill. This is the pretence the economy will be based on.

     

     

    The 2 major clearing banks in Scotland are insolvent and if we were independent we would have no reserves to bail them out, everyone’s money would be tied up in the banks cant get wages or pay bills we would face the same debtors problems as RFC creditors.

     

     

    Scotland needs at least another generation before it is mature enough not to discriminate against us from an Irish-Catholic background.

     

     

    Sorry for the boring political post

  5. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    Jabba….

     

     

    “This club, the biggest one in the country, were not invited to take part in talks which will shape the game’s future.”…..

     

     

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha

     

     

    ……well now, Jabba, you guys didn’t do too well when you were shaping oldco’s future…… In fact you liquidated them……..now that you have cobbled together a zombies2, who shouldn’t have even been allowed entry to SFL3, would suggest you concentrate on monitoring your share price for a couple of months, and leave the big boys to shape the future of Scottish Football ……SLAP, SLAP

  6. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    ….pfayr

     

     

    21:45 on 8 January, 2013

     

     

    LOL

  7. Dead and Loving it

     

     

    20:55 on 8 January, 2013

     

     

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    I with you I would vote for an independent Glasgow I an like Billy Connolly I am more Glaswegian than Scottish

  8. St.John.Doyle

     

    22:08 on

     

    8 January, 2013

     

     

    Can you explain how Orange Order walks have increased in number through the ydecades all under a Labour controlled Glasgow Council

     

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/glasgow-has-more-parades-than-belfast-and-londonderry-combined-1.823788

     

     

    How many Labour politicians followed Glasgow MP Ian Davidson in buying shares in sevco………………………….. yep i feel safe with Labour in control

  9. richie 21.49

     

     

    great post

     

    i have voted snp since i could vote and i am 67

     

    sure we still have plenty to complain about re.anti catholic bias

     

    but nothing compared to the 50 and 60s

     

    i never thought i would see the day when the last two heads of the

     

    justice system in scotland would be catholic , both appointed by the

     

    snp.

     

    i cannot understand the thinking of people of irish descent wanting to

     

    hang on to the coat tails of the likes of the current crop of bullingdon

     

    boys who s aristocratic forefathers trampled all over ireland and

     

    scotland

     

    yes we have our problems but lets sort it out from within

  10. How can the Armageddon brothers of Regan, Doncaster & Ogilvie sell a 12-12-18 set up to supporters who simply don’t want it. Listening to their joint press conference earlier Regan said the supporters need to be ‘educated’ to understand why this nonsensical structure was the way forward and the saviour of Scottish football. So a strategy of not listening to the customers, and indeed insulting their intelligence, is the revolutionary new sales technique that will win over the supporters. Harvard Business School will watch with bated breath,

     

    Why has Longmuir jumped on their bandwagon, and seems to be the main spokesman? I assume Doncaster will be taking a large pay off for abject failure and returning south and Longmuir has been promised the new CEO gig.

     

    The ideal for me would be a 2 divisions of either 16 or 18 but we don’t have enough teams good enough, there would be too many meaningless games (as in the 70s when we last had this set up) and there will not be enough games in a season to generate the income the clubs desperately need.

     

    14-14-14 is probably the best compromise for now. Play each other twice, split into 2 x 7 and play another twice. 38 games as now. Bottom 2 from each league down, Top 2 promoted, 3rd bottom in play offs with 3rd to 5th in lower division. Regional league pyramid below this with 2 teams promoted to league every year via play offs.

     

    Keep the merged organisation and more wealth distribution down from the top.

     

    We will never get a structure that pleases all or ticks all of the boxes but this is surely more simple and easier to sell than the 12-12-18 soon to be 8-8-8-18 dogs dinner that is being foisted on us,

  11. The dafties on FF are lapping up Traynor’s latest writing.

     

     

    Green is giving them exactly what they want and they are loving it.

     

     

    It’ll end in tears.

     

     

    Dumbasses.

     

     

    SwanseaBhoy

  12. thanks for that st john doyle

     

     

    a question for posters out there!!!!!!!!!

     

    shouldnt all education be nondenominational with no religion ethos in state schools

     

    have religious classes after school

     

    would stop reinforcing catholic/protestant prejudices

     

    have private religious schools by all means where people have to pay to send their kids to them

  13. lionroars67

     

     

    22:16 on 8 January, 2013

     

     

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    The Council do not make the laws that govern marches, the Scottish Parliament makes the laws for councils to administer, if we refuse marches by the OO they can then go to court and get the decision overturned.

     

     

    Since the Labour council brought in restrictions on parades the numbers have fell our rules are still open to challenge and the OO may still takes us to court

  14. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    westcsc,

     

    so you want to reduce people freedom to choose

  15. From Jabba’s wee essay…

     

     

    “…this is not to say Celtic fans or their club didn’t attempt to influence the outcome of debates on Rangers and possible sanctions. Of course they did. And they are still at it on social media sites and on blogs clattered out by individuals who are no better than semi-literate.”

     

     

    An interesting wee phrase at the end there. Last week, on this blog, some of us challenged a poster’s credentials and, when he lost the argument (and the heid), we were dismissed as ‘semi literate’.

     

     

    I dont think Jabba likes us very much. No doubt, post-reconstruction he will be happy to remain in the lowest division in the land.

     

     

    Having worked for the rag he did, he ought to be used to that!

     

     

    Hail Hail!

  16. I have read the blog tonight with much interest, some quality posts btw.

     

     

    westcelt

     

     

    You seem to have started a decent debate, but I have no doubts in my mind someone is paying you for your efforts tonight.

     

     

    I don’t have a problem with that, your last post gave you away.

     

     

    HH

  17. JimmyQuinnsBits on

    Independence

     

     

    Back when ole J connolly was makin a difference, even a sceptic like me couldve gone for it. The free state n then the republic did bollocks for ole seamus, cept give them a song to sing and a vote for the same ould hoors.

  18. Tractorbhoy.

     

     

    Someone posted yesterday saying only eleven clubs other than thems met the criteria for spl2 out of the lower divisions.

     

     

    It’s all being pushed through to quick.

     

     

    It stinks!!!

  19. swanseabhoy 22.18

     

     

    Traynors article got the exact reaction he wanted from our support!

     

     

    He needs to keep the orcs interested …

     

    His pathetic words mean nothing to the Orc support …

     

    UNLESS

     

    It gets a reaction from us !

     

     

    WE feed their fire of hate !

     

     

    Ignore them all !

     

    Treat them as what they are ..

     

    A complete

     

    IRRELEVANCE !

  20. If only there weren’t precedents for clubs playing at other clubs’ grounds.

     

     

    Foiled again. Pesky internet bampots.

  21. What is the Stars on

    Jimmy Quinns Bits

     

     

    I have to disagree about your comments regarding the Free State/Republic doing nothing for ole seamus

     

    Would you have preferred we stayed part of the UK,well I certainly am glad we made that break and despite every thing thats happened in the last 4 years the Republic of Ireland is still an excellent place to live

  22. no exiled tim, i have no agenda

     

    just curious about catholic schools and why people believe the state should supply schools with various religious ethos

     

    isnt religion a personal preference and shouldnt people pay for religious education

  23. 79caps,

     

    It’s not at all clear what “right-wing Eurosceptics” have to do with discussions about the Euro. It’s perfectly clear, 11 years after its introduction, that the Euro doesn’t provide an exchange-rate that suits all the Eurozone members. Of course, it wasn’t meant to: the architects of the Euro really wanted a completlely unified EU. They realised that European voters had no appetite for this, so designed a currency union that would inevitably fail, hoping that the resulting crisis would force political union. It remains to be seen whether this masonic ploy will succeed.

     

    You can’t compare the £ with the Deutsche Mark, as the latter no longer exists. Various versions of the mark have disappeared, while the £ remains.

  24. So James Traynor has started his new job as Head of Communications with an article that continues where he left off with the Daily Record – but this time he is being paid directly by Rangers Football Club to write the pro-Rangers rhetoric he has been peddling for months.

     

     

    His first article was typical of the new Rangers mentality – attack, deflect and threaten.

     

     

    He started his debut piece by talking briefly about the league reconstruction proposals, which had been agreed in principle today.

     

     

    But it soon turned into the all too frequent rhetoric that emanates from Ibrox Park since Charles Green took charge, targeting those clubs who chose sporting integrity over a club who chose to run up huge debt in their quest to buy domestic and European glory. A club who boast about being debt free when businesses across Scotland and even in England have to come to terms with losing money that they worked hard for and were never repaid. From face painters to local garages to charities to the ambulance service and that is before we get to the debt that they owe HMRC – the small tax case.

     

     

    Now Traynor and his media cronies at Ibrox are trying to take the moral high ground over clubs in the top-tier choosing now to think of their finances over their fans.

     

     

    Traynor stated on the official Rangers website: “Whatever happened to that new and bold notion that fans were all important? It isn’t that long ago clubs, particularly those in the top flight, were solemnly insisting that ignoring the views of fans would be akin to financial suicide.

     

     

    “Remember? It was when the game was wrestling with the problem of what to do with Rangers. All the clubs were squealing that the wishes of fans had to be granted. If you swallowed any of that bilge you probably also believed in sporting integrity.

     

     

    “Of course it was all nonsense. Sporting Integrity was a cloak of convenience, albeit a rather thin, practically transparent one, behind which club leaders huddled together to come up with sanctions.”

     

     

    Rangers were punished by the Scottish Premier League – not because of the club’s failure to pay their tax bill, nor their failure to pay the small businesses the money that they desperately needed to pay their own bills – but for breaching SPL rules in regards to going into administration and then liquidation.

     

     

    The issue of EBTs and dual contracts that Rangers utilised during their time in the Scottish Premier League is still to be ruled on by the top flight’s governing body – despite the calls from Ibrox to cull the investigation because they won the first tier tax tribunal, an investigation that they themselves have boycotted because they claim that it has no jurisdiction over the club now.

     

     

    Even Traynor stated that the club deserved to be punished, he added: “Rangers had to be punished, they deserved to be punished but it seemed as if additional penalties were being randomly introduced depending on who was in which meeting.

     

     

    “Many Rangers fans like to think the frenzy to cause the club as much additional pain as possible was driven by one club but that wasn’t strictly the case. Many fans of many clubs waded in but this is not to say Celtic fans or their club didn’t attempt to influence the outcome of debates on Rangers and possible sanctions.

     

     

    “Of course they did. And they are still at it on social media sites and on blogs clattered out by individuals who are no better than semi-literate.”

     

     

    And there we have it Traynor targeting those on social media sites and blogs. Blogs and those on social media sites don’t have the benefit of his huge wealth of journalistic experience of 37 years. Not to mention 37 years of having our work looked at and edited by sub-editors.

     

     

    Traynor looks upon social media and blogs as the anti-christ, but with the whole newspaper industry evolving to utilise blogs, social media and the internet – the likes of Traynor are dinosaurs and refuse to evolve with new advances.

     

     

    Answer me this what major company in the world, even a football club, has a Head of Communications who does not utilise every aspect of media to promote themselves, be it Facebook, twitter, blogs etc.

     

     

    Of course he will have his lackeys using these social media sites to promote articles, to promote interviews even to promote Traynor’s opinion pieces – while he continues to peddle his hatred for all things social media.

     

     

    Traynor then delves into rhetoric, that would not be out-of-place in any one of the Rangers blogs that match his definition ‘social media sites and on blogs clattered out by individuals who are no better than semi-literate’. Even a former journalist pickled with the ‘water of life’ – who has decidedly more journalism experience than Traynor – is in need of a good sub-editor. Even when churning out articles hand fed to him by ‘pals’.

     

     

    He continued: “This club, the biggest one in the country, were not invited to take part in talks which will shape the game’s future. We are then entitled to conclude that this club are not important, which is strange indeed when so many fans of other clubs continue to be obsessed by Rangers, who are simply getting on with their own affairs asking no favour from anyone. We do, however, expect commonsense to be applied, along with fair play.”

     

     

    Fair play? Can you see me hysterically laughing? If not imagine it because after reading that last sentence that is indeed what I am doing.

     

     

    Are Rangers simply getting on with their own affairs? No. Every week they round on someone or some club for having the gall to speak their mind. They demand apologies, they boycott matches, they demand to names be published of individuals in hearings when they know full well who sat on them.

     

     

    As for fair play? Huge debt to buy titles, the alleged misuse of EBTs and dual contracts still to be ruled on by the SPL not to mention on the field of play with players and former players giving fair play a bad name. Kyle Lafferty anyone? Madjid Bougherra and Steven Whittaker manhandling referees? Lee McCulloch leading with his elbows and even Ian Black who ran to the papers asking for referees to give him protection from the big bad part timers of Division Three who were not scared to put in the boot to the former Inverness Caley Thistle and Hearts hatchet man.

     

     

    Of course, all clubs have their divers, their players who lead with their elbows and who demand protection when they also stick the boot in – but are these clubs trying to take the moral highground?

     

     

    He continued: “….Rangers will return to the top flight, which will of course have to be rebranded. Rangers will take a seat at the head of the table where, despite the latest insult of being shut out of reconstruction talks, we will act with the good of Scottish football in mind.

     

     

    “We’ll work through the divisions and we will return stronger and better than ever before.”

     

     

    The same lines that chief executive Charles Green has peddled since they were blocked entry into the SPL and entered the Third Division.

     

     

    Traynor continued: “This club accepted their sanctions and moved on but too many others have been unable to do the same. They continue their assaults and while the deranged, who are using social media sites as conduits for their twisted agendas, should be ignored there are more than a few in the mainstream still maligning the club at every opportunity.”

     

     

    Yes those in the mainstream, who he worked for and took a paycheck from while peddling pro-Rangers articles in the lead up to his job interview with Charles Green and subsequent period between being told that he got the job and peddling that poor excuse of an obituary in his final column for the Daily Record.

     

     

    He may peddle the line about sporting integrity, but what about journalistic integrity and conflict of interest Mr. Traynor? Did you tell the Daily Record, that you had applied for a position at Rangers all the while writing those articles that had ‘Rangers application’ stamped on top of them?

     

     

    Again I fail to see how Rangers have moved on, every week we have Charles Green doing his best Comical Ali impression, that puts Vladmir Romanov to shame and then we have the likes of Andrew Dickson who demands apologies from every Tom, d**k and Harry when it doesn’t fit with the Rangers party line that he sticks to like glue. The same party line he peddled under Craig Whyte, when the Motherwell-born BILLIONAIRE was leading Rangers 1872 to oblivion.

     

     

    Morality, integrity and fair play does not sit kindly at the Ibrox boardroom table since the succulent lamb is now off the menu and replaced with a Donner Kebab from Pakora Junction on Paisley Road West. At least Charles Green can get his big Yorkshire hands dirty getting a hold of the kebab – although he has to put the millions he made in the recent share issue down.

     

     

    Traynor then sent a threat to his former colleagues, who will not take kindly to a ‘mere’ club communications officer telling them to watch what they write about his employers who now pay him a bumper wage.

     

     

    He said: “Word of advice gentlemen. From now on be very careful when talking or writing about this club. To paraphrase something said about another club, Rangers will not be treated less than others. And although there is no desire to pick fights, be assured that no one will attack Rangers with impunity.”

     

     

    Of course he ended his first opinion piece from the book of Rangers quotes, which seems to be referenced too on every piece currently.

     

     

    “….to quote Bill Struth: “Never fear, inevitably we shall have our years of failure and when they arrive, we must reveal tolerance and sanity. You do that, you will emerge stronger than before.”

     

     

    Tolerance and sanity? I take it he has missed all of Green’s statements and his version of the Queens christmas speech? If that was Rangers showing sanity then god help us all. We can live with an idiotic league system of 12-12-18 but a Rangers that is as sane as that Christmas message? Even Vladimir Romanov and Angelo Massone would be looking at that one and thinking twice before bursting out laughing.

     

     

    In effect Jim Traynor’s opinion piece stinks of being ghost written by his pal David Leggat, whose work is now no longer gracing our newspapers – thank god – just his wee blog.

     

     

    I wonder if Traynor sees the irony that he is now nothing more than a jumped up blogger on an official website. Welcome to the world of semi-literates James, the next time our paths cross – which they have done on numerous occasions at games and press conferences I will be sure to say Hello Hello and give you a wave.

  25. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    So let’s get this right. Last year Traynor said clubs were wrong to listen to the wishes of their supporters. Now he’s saying clubs are wrong to NOT listen to the wishes of their supporters. Make up your mind Jim or you might look a bit stupid.

  26. St.John.Doyle

     

    22:23 on

     

    8 January, 2013

     

     

     

    As i thought

     

    it its no us, its them……………………….

     

     

    50 years Labour controlled Scotland they were the dominant political force at council level, no effect on the OO whatsoever………… neither when did we have any effect on the OO when we had a Labour government at Westminster

  27. west csc

     

     

    People do pay for religious education. Through taxation, something some people don’t believe in.

     

     

    Furthermore, Catholics in Scotland, unlike some others, paid to build and staff their own schools, unlike some others who have a history of dodging paying for stuff, and after the state agreed state provision, Catholics handed their schools over. So, if you don’t like Catholic schools, no problem. If you can convince enough ‘Scots’ to cough up, just hand them back.

     

     

    Oh, and they provide a better education;)

     

     

    Hail Hail!

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