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30,000 bottles of South African Chardonnay.
Living the dream.
HH.
Disappointed that we didn’t get the result some of our first half play deserved. We struggled to cope with their half time tactical changes but still looked capable of scoring. I thought Broonie played most of the second half with an injury that had a major impact on his usual game and with the injuries picked up by other players , nobody should be risked this weekend that would jeopardise our chances next week.
A victory is a victory and a disciplined display next week will see us through.
KevJ keep on keeping on.
HH
Gooooooood Morning CQN
We are ahead in the tie
And
Only way we can be put out, is we get beat next week
Anyone see anything in Malmo that makes you think we will be beat ?
No, me either
Hail Hail
Darnell Fisher has never let us down when he has come in, great tackler and good going forward, Janko also good going forward not seen enough of him to assess his defensive qualities.
Fisher for me unless he’s injured doesn’t seem to have figured of late.
They have to come at us next week and take more chances than last night so it’s imperative that we bury any of the chances we will surely make.
C’mon Hoops makes us proud..
Bulk order – No businessman, however I wouldn’t pay anymore than 20p per bottle for said product.
30,000 bottles in the cellar is all good and well – cost maximum £6k in real terms though.
Magical.
HH.
Things I learned last nite
great going forward
griff was magic
Forrest too
Johansson played well
Armstrong played ok
centrebacks did well
here’s the criticism
lustig missing at there 1st goal
players running into each other at a corner no discipline
subs played gash
mackay was mince offered feck awe
cifti was equally pish
Efe is not a right back
Ronny can’t cut it at this level
still looks clueless
why did mackay come on when griff scored should have put his tracksuit on
it fecked our shape
stokes is a far superior player than cifti
here’s ma verdict
malmo to go through next week
there streetwise
we’re not
better quality players needed
dead wood punted
we’ve not progressed since
Lenny left decent scottish league team
that what we’ve got and too overpaid
Rantover
What about that old £350million casino/Velcro dome in the sky? And the pish, sorry pitch that floats on air?
How did it turn out?
Bread and circuses.
BaloneyCSC.
HH.
Malmo think they are through.
Celtic feel wounded and have a point to prove.
We need to learn the lessons from 6 goals conceded in three games. Each of them was self inflicted.
It’s all set for us to go through.
16 Roads
Or £500 from asda on special.
Or 500 $evcos for those prefer new (dodgy!) money!
Aff oot a la kevj – thinking of you ta great galoot!
HH jamesgang
Win at home(by any score)
Dont lose away
Job done
Still on course
lots of work to be done with team but if you would have told me before we faced Starjan, that we would beat them and quarabag and head to Sweden with a 3-2 lead ,
I would have eat your arms off.
Nearly there:)
Ohhhhhhh and see if it ends in the euoropa league ,so be it,I will still be there.
Sheik – Malmo streetwise? They lost three goals last night. Their defending was shambolic. It was worse than ours. Our two headed goals were incredibly simple for European football.
We are always building these teams in to something they are not.
Malmo streetwise, it must be a feckin’ cul de sac:))
Good Morning.
Come September, it will 30 years since Jock Stein passed away, and we are approaching the 50th anniversary of his great team being at its zenith.
Stein, might have been the first “big” manager to set out and record his thoughts and tactics on the game of football in the “modern” age and to this day Sir Alex Ferguson still maintains that if you had the use of a time machine then you would want to bring back Stein to be the Managers manager or the Maestro de maestri.
To this day, I am a great reader of what Stein’s players, pupils and observers say in their own books about what they learned from the big man.
Last night, at 2-0 I remarked, as I always do at 2-0, that “we need another one”.
Stein always said that 2 was never enough especially in a European tie.
Now it is obvious that a third goal gives the opposition a bigger mountain to climb but that was not the main reason that Stein always cited three as the magic number.
He believed that a third goal was alwys the one which psychologically defeated the opposing team and their manager.
At three nothing down the legs normally get wearier, the brain slower and a little more uncertain because a mistake that leads to 4-0 is a real killer and another nail in the coffin.
What does a manager say at 3-0 down? At two nil he can justifyably say “grab a goal, even an ugly goal and you are right back in it. The opposition will be a bit more cautious at 2-1” etc etc. But at 3-0 it is a whole new ball game.
This Celtic side have to learn how to get into the minds of their opponents; to be ruthless and unforgiving; to be systematic in giving nothing away and on a one to one basis, and as a unit, to be adept at turning the monds of their opponents. In other words, they have to be professional in their mental footballing torture.
By 1968, every team in Europe feared the wizardry of Jimmy Johnstone. Every coach knew to mark him for special treatment and possibly to double up on him with defenders.
Stein would therefore deploy a very simple tactic at the start of many a game by making sure that Bertie Auld fed the ball to Bobby Lennox almost immediately. When he got the ball, Lennox had one very simple instruction to follow. He was to knock the ball past the right back and run past him with that electrifying speed. it didn’t matter if he actually collected the ball and made anything of the move. He simply had to get by the right back very early in the game on one or two occasions.
The effect of this manoevre was three fold.
First, the right back could never come forward and leave space in behind.
Second, the central defender on the left hand side, as Celtic looked at it, had to come over and cover for the fullback had been left for dead and as a result the whole defensive unit shifted left becaus they feared that Lennox was about to run amok down that side.
Third, all the tactics on how to deal with Johnstone were thrown out of the window with the result that the wee man was left with far greater space than had been envisaged by the defenders and their coach.
When Johnstone then started to turn it on, the defence all switched right again, only for Auld or Murdoch to feed the ball left again to the ever sprinting Lennox.
I won’t bother you with Celtic’s abilities through the middle in this era but they were formidable.
The point is, that defending against that system and against those players was the equivalent of footballing torture where the opposition’s bodies, minds, hearts and souls were ruthlessly attacked, exploited and beaten into submission.
At 2-0 last night it was vital that we scored the tird goal.
It was vital that we carried the game to Malmo who had started to sit deeper and deeper.
It was vital, that we did not give anything away that allowed them back into the game. Scott Brown’s clearance to nowhere was a shocker in terms of maintaing the mental rigidness.
Had the game gone another ten minutes with no score then that would have suited Celtic mentally.
When we go to Sweden, we have to get it into their heads that one goal for us puts them in a really difficult “mental” place.
They are not a particularly creative team and are prone to leaving space at the back and affording the opposition chances.
Exploit a chance early on, give them a bigger hill to climb and if possible cut off their oxygen supply to the brain.
There must be a role for Chris Commons to exploit and so pin back their midfield – maybe not a full 90 minute roll but a roll nonetheless.
Ronny has to outhink his opponent and to get his team into the heads of the Malmo squad.
We are ahead and if we don’t lose we are through.
The best way to make it difficult for us to lose is to win or at least make the opposition afraid of us winning at any moment.
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Posted partly to prove that I am not deid!
Both Brown and Joe Hansen were booked last night. I think they have both previously been booked as well. Does anyone know for sure? And if they have, does that mean they will miss the game on Tuesday?
At game last night and i was pissed off big time, we have just about blow it, was my thoughts, today after a wee sleep, thinking same thing, if we can’t beat malmo we cant and should not be in champions league, it is that simple.
all i have seen and read is about the money , money seems the only interest and it is sad to see!!!!
griff = goals and his link up play was very good
lustig is good player, sorry to say he is never fit
we go to malmo and i hope we can produce a good result
hh
Okay , have a had a sleep to ponder last night , don’t feel quite as down as I did.
As some have already posted it seemed like a defeat due to losing a sloppy goal in the last minute.
Would play janko and mulgrew in defence on Saturday against united or at least play whatever defensive set up Ronnie has in mind for the return leg . It had better not include Efe.
Thought leigh was outstanding. Cifti should not feature until he can get some game time in the league. Wasn’t too bothered about his signing but now having doubts but the ban hasn’t helped his cause.
After we went 2 up we seemed to start giving the ball away. You would have thought our play would have improved!
Can see a place for Kris Commons in the return leg.
As I said above, beginning to feel a bit more positive about next Tuesday . Big miss will be Lustig.
See the usual suspects emerged from the shadows last night. Let’s hope they stay in their hole next Tuesday night.
It’s exciting watching celtic these days.
I’m loving it.
So we scored 3 goals last night and should have had more
Lost two bad ones, might have been more
Pity we didn’t have the nous to run down the clock at 3-1 and was screaming at the decision to cross the ball into their box in 93 rd minute!!
Any win for us or any draw, and we go through, hopefully having learned a wee bit about playing smart
The pressure is on them not to concede goals and to score goals and from what we saw last night they can lose goals to our team.
I am not brimming with confidence but feel we can do the job.
It’s gonna be fraught!
RobertTressell
“Excited” and every other emotion thrown into the mix :)))))
But agreed I’m loving it .
Jamesgang – peepil are strange.
A whale couldn’t even swallow the tripe that their own media fed them.
Moonbeams, indeed.
Good luck and best wishes to KevJ and the clan.
HH.
A few of us said it at the time but letting Matthews go early in the window was a massive mistake. Lustig is a brilliant defender but he’s playing through injuries and was always likely to break down. We took gamble for a few quid that most likely would have still been available after qualifying. Nobody is advocating putting us in financial jeopardy but every year we penny pinch (this just being one example) and show no great ambition to make the champions league proper. Maribor last season & now Malmo this are no great shakes but we are guilty of levelling the playing field with our transfer activity or lack of it.
Yes we can still qualify but we don’t half make it difficult for ourselves & it’s doubly so with so many key players carrying knocks. Fingers crossed Nir & Armstrong make it ok next week but who are we going to trust at RB?
Hoping we play a second string at the weekend, as everyone needs to be as close to 100% as possible for Malmo. It’s going to take a Herculean effort from whoever starts next week, as with injuries our options from the bench become less & less.
Keeping the faith but only just, this should and with a bit more ambition could have been so much easier.
HH!
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan
Rumours of your death have been greatly exaggerated, good to see you back on.
HH
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3jKXymoAsDs
KTF.
Jamesgang
I think you and I were the only Bhoys on this fine blog who rated Berget at paradise. I guess we were right the boy does have something although I would rather be looking as daft as he does this morning than have lost the two goals he scored. Ach well we still lead maybe we know something about fitba after all.
The Malmo manager is one of those coaches who gets under your skin if you let him. A wily old coach as the pundits would say. I picture him as the Sedish leagues answer to Arry Redknapp hanging out of his car window on transfer deadline day speaking to some over excited journo who is desperate for any transfer gossip or slip of the tongue to keep the viewers gripped. Yeah he is one of those managers who has a lot to say. He has been in the game long enough to know how it works. He has said a lot and in my opinion fired our support up last night so cheers for that Age. He also obviously knows that we are a better team than his so he is working the angles. I thought he was going to take Berget off last night with 10 to go but it appears he passed some instructions on. The wily old fox knew one thing. I have one guy in my team who has actually played here and he stays on the pitch to the death. His gamble paid off. Berget is an average footballer. he has basic technique and took his first goal very well but his overall contribution out with that was non existent. The auld Norwegian coach knew his experience of Paradise was vital and also inside information on our defence. Berget mugged us. Their team did not terrify anyone. Their goalie had 7 shots fired in his direction 4 on target and we scored 3 times. That tells a big story about him. Interestingly Malmo had 10 shots at goal. Watching the game last night I would never have beleieved they had more attempts than us but them are the stats. We could be heading to Sweden with a better scoreline but we are where we are. before last nights game if most were asked they would have taken a goal lead to Sweden. The away goals lost are far from ideal but if we do not lose we are through. I will settle for that.
Ronny needs to look at his opposing coach and think about what he does against this guy. he proclaims we are not fit enough. Oooft how to rile Mr Fitness and Mr Fitness in the Celtic dug out. I think Ronny will deal with that he knows his fellow Norwegian well as was illustrated before the game when Ronny was leaning on a wall in the tunnel speaking to his rival like an auld pal in the street.
My thoughts are does he go 4-4-2 and match the Swedes? It’s never been his way but does he catch the old fox out by doing something he wouldn;t expect?
To delve into the more experienced coach’s thinking you go for experience next week. If fit I would play experienced players at this level in Commons, Mulgrew, Stokes (off the bench) at right back if Lustig is not going to make it I would go with Fisher. Janko is clearly not ready if he can;t make the bench last night and would start Fisher at the weekend to sharpen up his match fitness if required. Poor auld Efe is just about done at the Hoops. I have backed him for months but it’s getting harder. It’s there for everyone to see. The poor Bhoy is just not at it and looks like he needs a switch elsewhere once we get the Malmo match out of the way he would join the list of players looking for a new club. The weekend match at Tannadice is a side show. I hate saying that about our bread and butter but the CL in monetary terms and attracting new players of a level we want to see at Celtic is huge and we must be ready, use Saturday to sharpen players up we may need either as starters or in reserve, play players who need to keep their momentum going such as Armstrong & Johansen they two shouldn;t need to rest. Wrap players in cotton wool like Forrest & possibly Griffiths because our options in those areas are not great.
Make no mistake there is not a huge gulf between the players in both teams but we are better. On form we can pump this mob and we showed for 30 mins last night how easy that could be but it’s a battle of the coaches. Ronny shaded it at home last night and obviously their coach feels he can do the same at his place. The coaches sort of slugged it out tactically and through injuries was left than a much poorer side than he started. I think in the event of injury planning will be better in the next game.
We are 90 mins from the promised land of milk and honey. Our manager knows it and may be judged on those 90 mins alone for the remainder of the season. I think he will get it right. A term my old man and a few aulder gentleman I know hated last season was Ronny is a student of the game. I will speak to him later and see if he now agrees with this sentiment. It’s slow learning because he does not have the funds to rip up our team and buy quality. He has to buy players, develop them slowly to this level. he has however learned massivly from our European adventures last season. Progress is good. As long as we are getting better and learning it is all you can ask for. If I were him I would have an arm round Stokes this morning. He is going to be needed because Ciftci is nowhere near it and a blot for me by Ronny so far to be going into these games with just really Griffiths as an out and out striker but Ronny has done alright so far and I have faith.
My thinking is that Ronny knows his budget pre CL, with CL and without CL and has gambled getting the bulk of his money to spend after next week when we qualify. Rather than sign 2 £2m players I suspect he has his sights firmly higher than that. It’s a gamble but it exudes confidence not only in his ability but also in his squad. It may look foolish if it doesn;t pay off but that is what he is paid to do and these are the risks you must take to make sure you get your top targets. It doesn;t make watching these games easier.
I suspect if we score in Malmo we will qualify. I think Ronny thinks that too. What Age says in between is mind games and he is probably best ignored.
Ronny goes head to head with the auld boy again next week and it will be interesting to see what he says in the press before then.
Most important thing about next week is keeping 10 men on the pitch. It has cost us dear in the past away from home.
I suspect the blog will be alive with football chat for the next week which is excellent. Let’s no hammer certain players too much and if we drop points at the weekend forget it. Next midweek is the only show in town.
Ronny v Age Part II
LB
Let’s not panic, Malmo have to beat us to go through and we are capable of at least a draw over there. Ambrose was obviously on the bench because he can cover centre back and right back. He is prone to mistakes but is fast and strong and in my opinion he is decent cover. He’s a bit like berget in that if we sold him he’s likely to go to a team of malmo standard and we would all think he was very good if he was playing against us. Too many on here are far too quick to write off players. Ciftci needs to be judged at the end of the season. I think he will prove to be a good buy in the long run. His fitness will improve and consequently his game will get much better. He needs a run of games something made difficult by the domestic ban. Again he gives us a different dimension. Domestically Rogic hasnt impressed me so Scott Allan could jump ahead of him although Rogic may improve a lot as his fitness improves.
Quantum
See the usual suspects emerged from the shadows last night. Let’s hope they stay in their hole next Tuesday night. –
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That’s you telt Brogan Rogan!!!
Good posts, both.
HH jamesgang
Gordon64
Wow, have you read that match report in the magazine? There appears to be some, er, negativity there, and, gulp, some criticism of Celtic players making unforced errors which could turn out to be very costly!
Words and phrases like ’15 million pound tightrope’, ‘face a real test’ and ‘if,(yeah,that’s right, lady, if) they are to reach the Champions league’.
There seems to be some doubt about our progress to the group stages.
Time to ban CQN from CQN?
Livibhoy
Great post mate. You as ever say exactly what’ve thunk. Only better!
Work. Grrrrr.
HH jamesgang
LiviBhoy
A good breakdown on the situation at hand, if we score over there Malmo will have a mountain to climb.
I think Ronny has the answers:)
HH
Didn’t sleep much. No doubt the players and management team replayed that goal over and over like I did. Malmo seem lucky. They are extremely fit and cohesive but not a star among them. Suppose that’s the benefit of 20 odd games behind you.
Meanwhile our good players suffer from the 2 or 3 mistakes of their compadres. Biton and Brown didn’t play as effectively last night. I think that is because they were isolated with Johansen so far up the pitch at times and Armstrong and Forrest playing as proper wide men.
I’m looking for positives and that formation would have worked but for defensive mistakes and missed chances. ( johansen could have finished it). Next week will see Johansen drop deeper, Forrest and Armstrong if fit move inside. Griff has to start as he showed he was better at holding the ball up. How many headers did he win?
Commons to come on in the second half to win it for us providing we don’t suffer lapses in concentration.
We traded blows as the attacking force, now it’s time to see how Malmo do with the shoe on the other foot.
Celtic will get the desired result in Sweden and progress to the group stages. We are a far better team than malmo or any Swedish team.
However once we are in the group stages, well that could be the stuff of dreams and I don’t mean pleasant ones.
HH
KTF
UTLR
Robert tressell
streetwise they were not
your right were just pish at defending
Far too much ‘negativity’ here. We can lose and still qualify! With those 2 defences, you’re not going to tell me a 4-3 or 5-4 is out of the question. Mourning a victory, celebrating a defeat. Sounds about right.
Sheik Yerbouti
On your point re: defenders running into each other – presumably you refer to the second Malmö goal.
Lee Dixon on ITV highlights last night that a Malmö player deliberately blocked VVD as the ball was played in.
VVD in an effort to pick up his man was delayed a vital half second which caused the resultant carnage.
Good punditry.
It’s always hard to assess a win that leaves you disappointed because of the order in which the goals came.
We were much better than Malmo last night. We outplayed them and out-coached them but, credit to them, they were very resilient and never dropped their heads. Having done so at CP, they will be even more determined at their home ground.
Even if we score one goal, they will remain positive they can score as many at home as they achieved away from home. I suspect we are going to have to match them and score twice away from home in order to secure qualification. That is not beyond us but it means we cannot claim to be strong favourites any longer though I suspect the bookies will still give shorter odds on the team that is already leading.
Amongst the reasoned analysis, there has been a lot of knee jerk response to the late goal. 8 days ago, James Forrest was a waste of space and GMS was the guy putting him to shame; these positions are now totally reversed and people want to punt GMS who has actually made a much more impressive start to his Celtic career than should have been expected.
Teams cannot be built and dismantled on the basis of such knee jerk reactions. Current stalwarts like Izzy, Broony, Bitton, Johansen and Forrest have occupied space in the “punt him and I’ll drive him to the airport myself” category before. More adult thinking is required to build a team on the training pitch rather than look for the Fantasy Football solution of player trading to buy bigger bling. Ronny is improving the team pattern at Celtic. Though I am concerned that we remain quite open and over-reliant on quality CBs, neither of the goals came from tactical errors. On the first, Lustig got sucked in to help out with a cross and the ball broke to where he should have been. On the second, apart from Scott’s difficult decision (head it forward to 5 Celtic players retreating at speed and facing their own goal or try to steer it to the one Celtic player in space on the left), we had two players attacking the same ball. Is that really ill-discipline or is it just commitment gone wrong?
I remain deflated but not defeated by the 2nd Berget goal. We are still on the rollercoaster to CL qualification despite the towel chuckers from last night.
Crowd of 52,400, where would you fit another 8,000 in? Thought it was adore than that.
Saltires en Sevilla
“screaming at the decision to cross the ball into their box in the 93rd minute”
The key moment there. Keep it out there at the corner flag, draw a foul, get a throw, anything but open the game up while giving away possession. Poor,poor play at this level.
At 3 1 I am happy as Larry,at 3 2 I am not a happy bunny! ‘What a difference a goal makes’! Well, not really that much. We still need a result there ,only , a different one! The team have shown they CAN do no goals against games(leaving aside the last three:() so it can be done.Hope springs eternal.One last thought,I agree with bloggers on Johansen’s stupidity at the end.It broke whatever concentration some of the team had left.