Co-op awards Celtic the League Cup Final

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Really pleased the Scottish Professional Football League have awarded the League Cup Final to Scotland’s largest football stadium, Celtic Park.  We are now hosting the League and Scottish Cup finals, as well as the head of Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs, at the opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Games.

So with the Commonwealth and Scottish Cup gigs going to Celtic, why didn’t Newco Rangers get the other final at their 50,000 capacity facility?

Back in the days such certification existed, Ibrox was a Uefa five star venue, whereas Celtic Park was four star, but maintaining those standards takes, well, maintenance, which has not been a priority in some parts.  Celtic Park remains highly functional, and safe.

There is also the hazard of planning an event, even six weeks out, at a venue owned (cough) by a company which does not have bank credit facilities and who are broadcasting financial distress signals like some kind of insolvency Batman call.

These perfectly valid reasons are, of course, a mere distraction from the real reason, the Co-op Bank, which controls Glasgow City Council, is also able to manipulate league football in Scotland and decided to award the final to their partner organisation, while cutting their borrowing rate, by way of compensation.

Issue 19 of CQN Magazine is fresh off the press, 104 pages of great stuff from the CQN community.  10 men won the league, Dam Justice, the Celtic Foundation, and Brogan Rogan outs the difficult questions to Pat Nevin about his Cup Final comments.

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  1. More money on it’s way out of the crumbledome today?

     

     

    I note that a Procedural Hearing is scheduled in the Court of Session for Thursday 6th Feb in connection with Ahmad’s claim that he is owed £500,000 in unpaid bonuses (down from original claim for £3.4m!). Irrespective of Ahmad’s likelihood or not of success, I’d have thought this must be of particular concern at this time. You don’t want to spending on legal fees at a time when you are alleged to have extreme cash flow difficulties.

  2. Jimbo,

     

     

    The crowd on Saturday will be closer to 30k than 40k.

     

     

    That said, there has only been 1 Saturday cup tie in Jan-Feb over the last 10ish years that has breached the 30k mark.

     

     

    So it’s not all that remarkable imo.

  3. hun skelper 10:35 on 6 February, 2014

     

     

    Think they would get a straight fee for the use of the stadium, the 4 teams split the ticket money after deductions HH

     

     

    Thanks for that. I’ll probably go now!

     

     

    Yorkbhoy, Livibhoy. Re Cup game v Hibs at the CrumbleDome

     

    I remember we played them twice one year (94 or 95). The second one a replay.

     

    I thought both games were played there.

     

    I could be wrong on the first game!

     

     

    ~SPF~

     

    I

  4. LiviBhoy – God bless wee Oscar

     

     

    10:34 on 6 February, 2014

     

     

    EmeraldBee\o/ proud to be an internet bampot

     

     

    The semi final you mentioned was at Hampden. It was the day after Hillsborough and was a Sunday.

     

     

    Livibhoy, you’re correct, I got the year wrong in my original post. The 1988 semi was at Hampden, when we gloriously scored two goals in the last two minutes to come from behind to beat the Jam Farts.

  5. Geordie Munro

     

     

    I said disappointed but like you not surprised at the likely poor crowd. Shame – not so long games of this type would bring in much bigger crowds than the league games against the same team.

     

     

     

    Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox

  6. coatbridge paper bhoy on

    A big happy BURPDAY to skyisalandfill c’mon wee oscar, hope your day/year is all you and yours could wish for.

     

    Gb

  7. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    EmeraldBee\o/ proud to be an internet bampot

     

     

    The original semi I think you meant was around 1995 and there were two games at Ibrox. That was the one you were at. It was 0-0 and I think 3-0 with Willie falconer having a stormer.

     

    The game directly after Hillsborough was against Hibs and Mick McCarthy and Stevie Baggio Fulton were among the scorers it was 1989 and was the first time I ever remember a minutes silence at a football match. I will never forget it.

     

     

    LB

  8. Geordie Munro

     

    10:59 on

     

    6 February, 2014

     

     

    The LG availability is still unclear but Bobby Russell posted an extract from the Mail which referred to his debut but as he said not conclusive.

  9. Jimbo,

     

     

    I’ll be there and more fool them who don’t go;)

     

     

     

    Tony,

     

     

    Canny see there being 40k plus mate. Has the top tier been opened?

  10. Philbhoy - Free the Dam 5! on

    TonyD

     

     

    “Paint facing”?

     

     

    Is that when you watch it drying?

     

     

    Hilarious!

     

     

    Good post though.

     

     

    ;-)

  11. Geordie Munro

     

     

    Like you I’ll be there- should be a cracker.

     

     

    TonyD

     

     

    I hope you are right re the size of the crowd- hopefully those who are there can generate a good atmosphere. Last Sunday was a decent match but it was pretty quiet.

     

     

     

    Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox

  12. Emeraldbee

     

     

    Livibhoy, you’re correct, I got the year wrong in my original post. The 1988 semi was at Hampden, when we gloriously scored two goals in the last two minutes to come from behind to beat the Jam Farts.

     

     

    One of my all time favourite games..

  13. Jimbo,

     

     

    I was missing ;)

     

     

    A mate tells me the sheep have sold a healthy amount of tickets which always helps.

  14. geordie munro

     

     

    11:27 on 6 February, 2014

     

    Jimbo,

     

     

    I’ll be there and more fool them who don’t go;)

     

     

    Tony,

     

     

    Canny see there being 40k plus mate. Has the top tier been opened?

     

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    Haven’t a clue mate, still selling tickets I think, they where advertising sales yesterday.

  15. Is top tier open on Saturday? What is the capacity with it closed? I think that’s what the crowd will be, bottom tiers and main stand full. 30-35k

  16. MWD

     

     

    There had to be pre talks and I can see why clubs would welcome anything that helps keep control of crowd behaviour.

     

     

    That does not mean to say they welcomed the bill (or is it The Bill) in the form it took and the policing that it enabled.

     

     

    That is born out by their opposition to the bill.

     

     

    It would have been possible to have better coordinated police action to counter support groups who crossed the behavioural line ( and I’m thinking here of the guys who organised violence against supporters of other clubs that required police darnsarf to create an intelligence gathering function, rather than guys setting up a choir with political banners.).

     

     

    There is nothing sinister in wanting to improve policing, indeed where such extreme violent behaviour to have occured, the club would be pilloried for not being active in trying to counter it.

     

     

    So I think we need to know the context against which the meetings took place to reach an informed judgement.

     

     

    I think better co-ordinated policing of itself does not have sinister connotations and can see why that would be supported, but with the OBB added you have quite a different mix altogether that drew other behaviours into the net and I can see why Celtic opposed it.

     

     

    In short support for one does not necessarily mean hidden support for the other, which is what is being said.

     

     

    That is of course a meaning folk are free to take in the absence of evidence to the contrary, but even if such evidence or reasoning were presented some folk would choose to believe it, others would not according to their nature.

     

     

    On that note I will say that Celtic’s answers last night to all questions will evoke that mixed response, not because of the responses themselves but the meaning each reads into it.

  17. hun skelper 11:35 on 6 February, 2014

     

     

    Remember your hard hat you might need it HH

     

     

    I’ll get one for me and my daughter. The wife will just have to take her chances!

     

     

    Wouldn’t it be funny if all who do go to the game at the CrumbleDome would wear the white breathing masks like the Chinese people in their smog ridden cities in order to avoid asbestos contamination!

     

     

    ~SPF~

  18. weet weet weet(GBWO) on

    skyisalandfill c’mon wee oscar

     

     

    11:14 on 6 February, 2014

     

     

    Hoopy birthday,and to Jude

     

     

    HH

  19. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family

     

    09:20 on

     

    6 February, 2014

     

    Oldtim

     

    Remember Saturday is 12.45 ko…

     

     

    Thanks for that reminder.

     

     

    Instead of debating about Pat Nevin,we should be debating about these 12.00am to 12.45pm games we are playing, at this moment in time counting the game on Saturday we will have played 12 games in that time zone. Bloody fed up with these times.

  20. From the Aberdeen Evening Express…

     

     

    The Dons boss said: “There are no fears about facing Celtic at Parkhead.

     

     

    “There would have been no fear anyway regardless of whether or not things went our own way in the League Cup semi final.

     

     

    “We intend to go to Parkhead on Saturday and make a real fist of it.

     

     

    “Our intention is to go out and give a good account of ourselves.”

     

     

    Should be a good open game then..

  21. The Battered Bunnet on

    Auldheid

     

     

    You have to look at the situation from the investment perspective. It’s the touchstone in this case. Investors get returns.

     

     

    The vast majority of the shares purchased or otherwise acquired are held by those with nil interest in football. Their interest is strictly investment return.

     

     

    As a trading entity in the current football environment, the Sevco project is a doomed failure. It cannot trade profitably without European football, and cannot gain European football without trading at a loss.

     

     

    Consequently, shares will never pay a dividend, and their value is consistently undermined by the need to refinance cyclically. Only those with a long term interest in the project from a non-financial perspective will thole the periodic call for more money for the same old rope.

     

     

    There is good reason why TRFC Ltd (formerly Sevco Scotland) was not floated, and it’s corollary is the separation of football operations from controlling interests – RIFC plc.

     

     

    From the investment perspective, the football operation is the haemorrhaging gash in the RIFC plc business model.

     

     

    So remove it. Then re-structure the business accordingly.

     

     

    The corporate structure is already in place. All that’s required are the circumstances, both financial and marketing, to permit it.

     

     

    Strictly in my own view.

  22. So Aberdeen will come to win?

     

     

    Is that come and attack from the off and play openly or sit behind the ball and hope for a break?

     

     

    I know where my money is.

  23. Aberdeen will do what all SPFL teams do when they come to CP. Sit in, try to stop us getting an early goal/scoring first and hope to catch us on the break. If Plan A works they will then become more adventurous in the second half, commit more men forward and have a go.

  24. corkcelt- SUPPORTING THE DAM 5 on

    I really believe in this Celtic team, there is something extra there this year. I can’t totally but my finger on it but even when they are off form they are still getting over the line. When they are on form, they are unplayable. In a one off Cup game anything can happen but with the Final in Celtic Park, we simply must win the Cup this year.

  25. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Old Tim- 4 home games in arow, none of them at 3 o’clock on a Saturday.

     

     

    Gggrrrrrr

  26. Philbhoy – Free the Dam 5!

     

    12:12 on 6 February, 2014

     

    Who is showing the game on saturday please?

     

     

    Sky Sports 2

  27. bognorbhoy oscar in my thoughts/ support the dam 5/we are all neil lennon on

    Philbhoy – Free the Dam 5!

     

    12:12 on

     

    6 February, 2014

     

    Who is showing the game on saturday please?

     

     

    sky sports 2

  28. traditionalist88 on

    old tim

     

     

    Well said, can’t believe the time and energy people are wasting debating the pros and cons of Pat Nevins climbdown. The damage was done, he’s a little nyaff who has a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue he thought he was talking about, like many in the MSM.

     

     

    We should be debating issues like kick off times, or any of the range of issues raised at the Trust meeting last night, instead of wasting time talking about Pat Nevin. I didn’t see ANY discussion about the article on p32!

     

     

    Who knows what we could achieve if we actually discussed real issues and took some action.

     

     

    HH

  29. NatKnow - Supporting Wee Oscar on

    Philbhoy – Free the Dam 5!

     

    12:12 on

     

    6 February, 2014

     

    Who is showing the game on saturday please?

     

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    Looks like Sky Sports 2. Useful site :

     

     

    http://www.live-footballontv.com