Really pleased the Scottish Professional Football League have awarded the League Cup Final to Scotland’s largest football stadium, Celtic Park. We are now hosting the League and Scottish Cup finals, as well as the head of Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs, at the opening ceremony of the Commonwealth Games.
So with the Commonwealth and Scottish Cup gigs going to Celtic, why didn’t Newco Rangers get the other final at their 50,000 capacity facility?
Back in the days such certification existed, Ibrox was a Uefa five star venue, whereas Celtic Park was four star, but maintaining those standards takes, well, maintenance, which has not been a priority in some parts. Celtic Park remains highly functional, and safe.
There is also the hazard of planning an event, even six weeks out, at a venue owned (cough) by a company which does not have bank credit facilities and who are broadcasting financial distress signals like some kind of insolvency Batman call.
These perfectly valid reasons are, of course, a mere distraction from the real reason, the Co-op Bank, which controls Glasgow City Council, is also able to manipulate league football in Scotland and decided to award the final to their partner organisation, while cutting their borrowing rate, by way of compensation.
Issue 19 of CQN Magazine is fresh off the press, 104 pages of great stuff from the CQN community. 10 men won the league, Dam Justice, the Celtic Foundation, and Brogan Rogan outs the difficult questions to Pat Nevin about his Cup Final comments.
The graphic below is just a taster, GO HERE to read properly, and for FREE!!
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!!Bada Bing!!
23:47 on
5 February, 2014
MacLean is freelance ,not a BBC employee
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In that case, like Nevin, he wouldn’t want to comment for fear that he wouldn’t get future gigs.
Big Nan
23:08 on
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma
23:25 on
Nan, I too persued the BBC on this issue, even writing to points of veiw to no avail. Not once did I or any of those that I knew who also complained asked for anyone to lose their job. I wasn’t aware of Nevin’s evidense to the justice comittee at the time and it surprised me that he had said this.
I even went to my MSP and MP to seek help in persuing this complaint but it appears their was a collective wanting this issue to go away so the say nothing and move along brigade won the day. I was dissapointed that more fans didn’t continue to harrass the BBC for a answer to their complaints but that’s life I suppose some start off with good intentions but aren’t prepared to g the distance.
Jim
Sorry I took what you were saying in completly different wat to that which you were meaning, I sometimes have a habit of doing that and it’s why I had to read the interveiw a couple of times.
What you say actually ties in with some of the Charlotte stuff that was released last year about Irvine press contacts in how to counter the attacks on Rangers and charges of sectarianism by tarring Celtic etc.
BTW would a FOI request reveal the contents of those complaints? Or are they covered by data protection?
Someone earlier said they were having difficulties viewing the mag on their computer.
You can also read the mag on Magcloud for free and claim a free i-Pad download. It is pretty neat and some of you may prefer this to the regular system we use. Have a look.
http://www.magcloud.com/webviewer/702599?__r=95875&s=w
Anyway I am away to read My Struggle!
Just read the Pat Nevin interview. First, I don’t know the interviewer as a person, but thoroughly enjoy his contributions on CQN.
I thought the interview was ‘soft’, in the sense that the old Stockholm Syndrome seems to have taken over. Lots of explanations that come across as efforts to make Pat look/sound better.
I also thought that Pat, even if he was being ‘played’ by the BBC…..was AWFULLY naive, almost to the simpleton extreme. So naive that some of what he says can’t be believed. For example, he doesn’t know the words to TBOTOB.
Really. All these years in the jungle, and all he heard were shouts about macaroon bars?
Scotland’s media works hard to discredit and taint Celtic and their support. There are many who would do it for nothing. Pat did for their shilling. As such, I have little sympathy for him.
The rest of the magazine is pretty good. Congrats to those who worked on it.
A really enjoyable and amusing read.
Bada Bing
My understanding is that he has been a BBC employee for the last few years having previously been freelance but I am open to correction.
Boa noite,
Currently on an assignment in LA. Sadly there’s no Hollywood in sight, my LA is Lower Alabama.
Anyway, nothing fitba related to tell, but thought some of youse (regardless of whether you’re a dug lover or not) would have a wee smile at some o these. Enjoy….
http://www.negpoz.com/30-naughtiest-dogs-last-one-cracked/
brogan rogan trevino and hogan supports oscar knox, mackenzie furniss and anyone else who fights neuroblastoma
22:14 on 5 February, 2014
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A brilliant post explaining the interview from your perspective. Your posts are always great reading. While I am not likely to read the interview because of the enmity I hold towards Nevin, I in no way criticise you for doing so. Plenty of other Celtic supporters hold different views from myself on a whole range of matters and will have read, and in some cases re-read the interview and will have altered their views towards PN or had those views confirmed ( reference earlier posts). I appreciate you taking time to expand on the interview and give us such good background information.
Hail! Hail!
BRTH-He was replaced on Sportscene to cut costs,so employees like Liam McLeod present it now at no extra cost
natknow-sure would mate.
neganon:
Celtic did complain, they told us so and the BBC confirmed it.
But what happened next they never told us; not the BBC nor Celtic. (or I never read it at least)
kitalba
00:01 on
6 February, 2014
neganon:
Celtic did complain, they told us so and the BBC confirmed it.
But what happened next they never told us; not the BBC nor Celtic. (or I never read it at least)
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Some links :
http://videocelts.com/2013/07/blogs/latest-news/charlotte-points-the-torch-at-bbc-scotland/comment-page-1
http://www.thefootballforum.net/index.php?/topic/200809-celtic-fury-at-bbc-lies/
Think the 2nd one is actually the text from a report by The Sun
Christy Moore singin abt the Barrowland and Jinky on Radio Scotland
Interesting tweet from Derek Rae:
There might also be a big interview to be done in Manchester on Friday. Intriguing one if it happens.
Bada Bing
Was he an employee at the time?
I had understood that he still was an employee of the corporation whether he did Sportscene or not– but again can stand corrected.
I know quite a few folk at the Beeb– some staffers–others freelancers though of these some have long term contracts with the beeb.
SFTB
Cheers — the whole point is to inform, create discussion and interest, and if necessary to alert. The interview bothered me for a whole host of reasons and i won’t for a minute hide the fact that I prefer telling a story as opposed to conducting an interview but this was interesting and we thought we should do it.
Whether it changes anyone’s opinion on anything is up to them, though I do believe that he should not have been subjected to the kind of abuse he describes.
On a separate note here is a wee video ( non Celtic related ) that I found interesting– and on the story telling front hopefully the Strandsky blog can get a little of my attention as I have tales to tell about Two Americans, a German and a quite remarkable if unheard of Scotsman — If I can find the time lol
Sorry– Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMahgKhScY8
Jude 200-6
HAVE A GOOD ONE!!!!!!
H.H.
If Rae is tweeting , it can only mean good news for them from Manchester
Not getting the Derek Rae/Manchester hingmy – can anyone enlighten me?
Lothian boys club have written to Scottish FA compliance officer Vincent Lunny to complain about the non-payment of compensation money allegedly owed by Hearts and Rangers.
Musselburgh Windsor FC, who celebrated their 60th anniversary last year, say they have taken the stance to alert boys clubs throughout Scotland that they are due thousands of pounds by professional clubs. Their own complaint relates to an under-15 goalkeeper who joined Hearts, and two younger outfield players who were released to join Rangers.
Club president Scott Robertson says his club is spending more money pursuing the complaint than it will actually get if Hearts and Rangers are forced to pay up. That is because boys clubs are due just £10 every time a senior club takes one of their registered players – a situation Robertson describes as “disgraceful”.
From the Scotsman.
Just read the Pat Nevin interview. So glad someone asked him to explain the events around his comments, shame it has taken 3 years for some light to be shed on this. Well done Brogan et all. I’d been left with a petty jaundiced view of Pat since that infamous day but still enjoyed absorbing his EPL football insights via BBC online. Now he can be restored in my mind to where he was pre 2011. A white hot/ice cold auld school winger with a Johnny Marr haircut who was brave enough to speak out on the unmentionable football/society issues North and South of the border when barely anyone else would.
Pat Nevin can walk through Celtic Park’s front door with his held very high.
Nevin = Boak…So sorry CQN got involved :O(((.
Anyone who has been hanging around CQN for a while may remember a favorite Kojo, or maybe his boss/ predecessor Fargo, expression.
The big C
It meant CONTROVERSY in the MSM which led to a rise in circulation.
The Pat Nevin interview has achieved the same end, stimulating responses and raising hackles.
I haven’t read it yet, and probably won’t as I am not nor never was interested in anything he did or said during nd father his football career.
HOWEVVA, there goes Kojo again
I would relish reading an interview with John Clark who ranks alongside Billy and Bertie in my pantheon of Celtic Gods.
I alluded to the fact on the live update thread Sunday when he was caught on screen.
The. Brush was and still is the consummate Celt.
I remember Martin saying he used to drag John into his office and have him relate tales of the Lions and particularly Jinky’s shenanigans.
I’m sure that being the proper Gent that he is, John would readily agree.
GG
We have tried and are still trying.
However to do this properly John, as an employee of the club, needs the sanction of the cub before giving any interview to anyone….. and we get the impression that he has so much to info, insight and background knowledge that he might prefer to be away from the club before he does so.
He is also the only living Lion to have never done a book……. and boy what a book it would be!
Continuing the build up to Saturday’s cup tie I started last night
Celtic 2-0 Aberdeen 1967 on the way to a glorious season.
http://youtu.be/7005XxOVYKo
As TG once said “The only thing we didn’t lift that season was the Torrey Canyon.”
The youngsters may have to Google it.
Thanks BRTH.
A book on JC, you see what I did, would make a unique Lions double.
Did Nevin apologise for defaming our fans?
If not then why even bother reading his thoughts?
What is the bloody point!!!
GG
Yes I know — and I have thoughts on that lol
Are the deed deed yet?
Forget about Pat Nevin and other heroes of that kidney.
Scabs are scabs for all that and there are many associated with Celtic.
Bottom line…whats the zombie share price today?
GG
01:00 on 6 February, 2014
What famous brush are you talking about? of the JC variety. Cant be arsed reading back. Sorry.
On the same cup final, here is a longer version from Pathe News.
Ending quote
“No team in the world could beat Celtic on this season’s form”
http://bps.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/flash/00000000/00055000/00055919.mp4.m3u8
Prize for the first person to spot me in the crowd.
Hint I had a full head of hair.
Maggie
JC
M McG
John Clark was known as the brush for his unique quality as a ‘sweeper’
GG
Have you got all the snow shoveled?
We are sitting in between on Cape Cod.
Does Pat McK still go to the Club?
GG
01:23 on 6 February, 2014
John Clark?
Sargassosea
01:26 on 6 February, 2014
Oh I know. trust me.
BRTH
As I said earlier: in the PN interview I picked up on the emotional aspect that I think you tried to convey in the reporting of the interview.
Now maybe you were too compassionate (or too good for your own good) but I heard a guy hurting. Now maybe he brought that on himself but then maybe he thought he was amongst folk who would know where his heart lay and was hurt when he realised just how much he had alienated himself from them.
Perhaps that is why he could not apologise if he knew that he never meant any offense, although an apology could have been couched in those terms.
Whatever, I felt sorry for him but that at least you got me listening.
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Listening
You are not listening to me when….
You do not care about me,
You give an answer to my problem before I’ve finished telling you the problem
You cut me off before I finish speaking
You find me boring but pretend to listen
You feel critical of my feelings
You tell me of your experience but seem to find mine unimportant
You are communicating with some one else while I am talking
You refuse my thanks by saying you have not really done anything
You are listening to me when
You come quietly into my private world and let me be me
You really try to understand me
You grasp and accept my point of view even when it’s against your conviction
You do not try to take my problem away from me, but stand by me while I wrestle with it
You give all your attention to me
You accept my gift of gratitude by telling me how good it makes you feel to know you have been helpful
Coy Parsley
Oklahoma City BE.
M McG,
If you knew that, did you think we were talking about another ‘Brush’? If so, which one?
I was at the Open Meeting tonight which dealt with Celtic’s responses to questions arising from the previous meeting.
I think they will be posted on the CST site for anyone interested.
The meeting then went on to discuss them.
It should all appear on the CST web site in the coming days.
Worth having a look, should fill 10 blogs. :)