We’ve been trailing the Ukraine-Russia Joint League plans, which was due to commence early next year, since they were first mooted in 2012. Political will, met commercial money, and a football desire to put the merger of two large national leagues into the schedule.
Needless to say, these plans are off the agenda, although it’s easy to look back now and see why the political will was so forthcoming. Note to Westminster, if you want to indulge in a bit of togetherness, put your shoulder behind building a relevant nationwide sporting infrastructure.
Instead of a Joint League, what the football authorities in Russia, Ukraine and Zurich are left with is a bit of a mess. Crimean clubs, Sevastopli and Tavriya are midway through a season in the Ukrainian Premier League. Russian minister for Sport, Vitaly Mutko, said, “From the beginning of next season Sevastopol and Tavria wiil join the Russian Premier League”, which will expand to accommodate them.
He told Russian media he had received assurances from Fifa that they would accommodate the change, adding, “We want a friendly relationship with Ukraine and do not want to disrupt their current championship. When the season finishes in May we will be back in discussions to formulate the way forward.”
The Russian media report that Ukrainian FA are less interested in maintaining friendly relations with their eastern neighbours and have written to Fifa and Uefa asking them to ban Russian football if they take clubs from the Ukrainian FA without permission. This claim has not been mentioned in the Ukrainian press, or on the Ukraine FA website – despite this being cited as the source in Russia, so it cannot be verified.
Clubs moving between national associations is a common occurrence, happening every year somewhere in the world, but I’m unaware of it happening without the approval of both FAs. Notwithstanding that, there is zero chance Uefa or Fifa will block this transfer. Two member clubs are in a problematic situation, they have a league which wants to take them. Uefa will approve.
Conspiracy theorists everywhere were confounded this morning when one of Europe’s most connected clubs, Bayern Munich, were issued with a partial stadium closure for their home Champions League quarter final against Manchester United, after fans displayed an offensive banner against Arsenal in the last round. Homophobia was their offence of choice.
Seville – The Celtic Movement:
“After the game I asked a policeman the way to the station and he just pointed ahead…walked on to find myself in Porto Bus area…walked back – asked another Policeman and he pointed other way”.
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Top of the morning to you all from a still, dry and pleasant Fife.
Nice story from Gold Coast Tom and I have similarly good memories of my/my brothers visit to Hampden for the Leeds game.
I travelled to the game from Rosyth with an old (probably 18 years younger than I am now) Celtic supporter who was my mentor.
Jimmy Curran was a gallus wee man who had fought in N Africa and Italy in the Second World War (& hated every minute) he supported the Tic all his life. A dapper wee man, he would who would swagger to the front of any queue and talk his way in.
Jimmy was wiser than me though and when we got to the turnstiles at the Rangers’ end (corner opposite main stand) he had severe misgivings and when we were inside the ground he did the unthinkable and refused to go on saying he had never seen anything like this and was turning back.
I carried on and at times wished I hadn’t as for the entire game I was unable to move my hands away from my sides such was the crush in the section I was in. A heavy “roll-up” smoker at the time I never got a puff that night, but saw the game and enjoyed the result.
When I got home and spoke to my brother Joe who had travelled from Kelty he was amazed to hear my story of the crushing as he had watched the game in comfort from the Celtic end and his problems had only started when the game was over and he couldn’t find his mates car so had to hang around Glasgow and eventually travelled back with a baker’s lorry delivering the morning rolls to Fife!
Two people at the same venue with totally different experiences, but there was talk of a large number of counterfeit tickets being sold and going by my experience that story was true and they were all sold for the section I was in!
Jimmy Curran travelled to Milan for the final which I didn’t but I saw the best of Celtic that year in the semis.
Treasure your memories GCT as I do of my late brother and remember you are part of a bigger band of brothers and sisters in Celtic.
Son of Gabriel @ 07.58hrs.
If you do happen to see our dear leader ask him :
Have you taken your economic guidance from a famous Sir Thomas More book, after all in the real world he was an economist.
HH.
“I’d just like it to be known that I PLEDGE to spend upto 125 yo-yos in the pub this Friday………..there, I’ve said it.”
in other news…………………………..
Aye!
Son of Gabriel
07:58 on 25 March, 2014
I would like someone to ask Salmond if he still stands by his view that an independence referendum can only be held once in a generation.
ERNIE LYNCH
Sadly,in many areas a generation is only about sixteen years. So I would be more specific about the gap.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
08:14 on 25 March, 2014
CHRIS TOREY
Simon Wiesenthal may well have repeated the figure,but I maintain that it was first used by the Russians in May 1945.
I’m pretty sure it was in Berlin: The Downfall. I’ve still got it somewhere,so I’ll check.
I genuinely couldn’t find any reference to 250,000 deaths at Auschwitz,nor to a total of 2m overall,though reading your post again,I understand that you were extrapolating the figure down comparatively.
As for reading,I probably don’t do enough. And it is probably too diverse to be authoritative on any subject. But if there were approximately 9m Jews in Europe prior to the war and only 3m afterwards,I think Occam’s Razor may apply.
Thanks for the compliment,btw!
Ther were 300,000 jews in germany 1933, Daily express front page, so that means they went out and rounded up another 8,700,00 to gas 6 mil . hoe did they run the war?
Their railways would be too busy rounding up jews for the camps not forgetting the gypsies, commies, sexual deviants, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and catholic priests such as Saint Maximillian Kelbe who did die at Auschwitz.
Wars are great times for Bankers, and getting rid of your undesirables.
Start reading.
You don’t want to be left with the Socialist Simpletons. Good Lord, Lenin’s first purge was the socialist simpletons. And Yes, Nicolai had many many many purges.
vaya con dios
Chris Torey:
Where are you off to?
I haven’t been able to keep up with all the posts of late and I just have not had the time to read every post in detail, so forgive me if I’m off track a wee bit with this….
I have not actually read you denying the holocaust, is that correct?
You don’t dispute that their was a nasty program of murder against the Jewish race and others but you cannot agree on the exact figure because there appears to be some confusion as to the ‘exact’ number?
I don’t think for one moment that you are a ‘Jew hater’, I think you came at the issue from a semi-entrenched position, and you put a few noses out off joint and I think that was your intention.
I don’t think you are an attention seeker never did, never really agreed with the tone of some of your posts but then no doubt you could say the same of some of mine.
I have no idea how many Jews died during the war, I am not God, but I know a lot of Jews died. I know that post war those who decried the Nazi’s were every bit as bad, every bit as bad, how many Germans were murdered by the allies post war… again I am not God.
One thing I do agree with you 100%, people are scared, even now, all these later, to even begin to examine the truth and question the history written by the conqueror’s.
I don’t think you were deliberately insensitive but maybe if you read back you might understand why one or two got their noses out of joint.
If you’re passing this way, give me a shout.
ernie lynch
08:30
Thats one I am interested in as well, personally I believe that if we get a heavy “No” vote westminster will hammer us, and if there is a no vote would that just be it put to bed?
Surely there should be some contingency in place?
My own preference would be a re-vote every “x years” or a similar method so there are more chances, more pressing, and if there is a yes it is more likely to be a resounding yes when the economic climate favours independence as opposed to a “its now or never” approach taken by the current scottish government.
I wont get near them by the way, just curious.
HH
Son of Gabriel
You could ask him if he fully supports the arrest and detention of young men who like to sing about their families’ Irish history and whether he considers this racist intimidation?
HH
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
08:33 on 25 March, 2014
I suppose he might try to argue that if you can vote at 16, then 16 years is a generation, rather than the 25 years most people would assume.
I suspect though that on 19th September he will be looking for another referendum within a couple of years.
He should be pinned down on the matter now.
CHRIS TOREY
Sadly the killing extended to more than just German Jews. There were many more spread throughout Europe.
IIRC,around 150,000 were driven into a ghetto in Lodz,and left to rot. Less than a thousand survived.
I don’t recall off-hand the numbers in Warsaw. I expect they would be similar,but no matter.
I think we’re in danger of losing the thread of the discussion by trying to be precise. It is difficult to do so because of inaccurate pre-war records.
You say I should read more,and I agree. But the figures that I have used are those that I have read in various places.
A death is a tragedy,a million deaths a statistic. So it would appear.
F.A.B. Virgil
That would be high on the agenda believe me.
Embdae fancy a sporadic burst of football related posts?
!!Bada Bing!!
08:46
On a football blog?
Dont be ridiculous!
A Celtic-related post!
Does anyone know what STV concluded in their analysis of whether the linesman was right to disallow LG’s goal for offside?
79caps
08:52 on 25 March, 2014
A Celtic-related post!
Does anyone know what STV concluded in their analysis of whether the linesman was right to disallow LG’s goal for offside?
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Honest mistake?
kitalba
08:33 on 25 March, 2014
Chris Torey:
Where are you off to?
If you’re passing this way, give me a shout.
Everything is hazy at the moment, but somewhere in Europe, Spain being top of the list.
Where are you? Brisbane.?
Of course I’m not so insensitive at people’s deaths, but, some people seem to think WWII happened the way the see it on Movies and TV even now we’ve got the Monuments Men with all the Hollyjude Stars.
My favourite brother, I have 4, was here from glasgow only last week and he is full of that socialist shit, “don’t show me that. I don’t want to read it, I don’t have time” and he is my favourite and is very, very, very clever, but would not listen. I can’t put my brother’s nose out of joint, but, internet socialists are fair game to me.
I’ll be in Sydney for this year, I think, although, I hope to be off sooner.
vaya con dios
Big Nan
Surely not?!
!!Bada Bing!!
08:46 on 25 March, 2014
Embdae fancy a sporadic burst of football related posts?
times like this you don’t half miss KEV.J…………………………aff oot.
Gabriel. A factory in Ayrshire ? I thought they were all closed down years ago leaving an Industrial Desert. H.H.
Chris Torey
08:55
“even now we’ve got the Monuments Men with all the Hollyjude Stars.”
No allowances need to be made here – it seems we’ve got a straight up and down anti-Semite on the blog.
An expression only fit for the wilder fringes of the extreme right wing – is there a Sydney Defence League?
Chris Torey:
I watched 30 mins of the Monument Men and then canned it, I won’t write what I thought of it because it would offend but without doubt one of the most awful movies ever made.
I know where you are coming from, reality bounces off apathy, and heads in the sand, more than .22 bullets bounce of kelvar.
BTW, I’m glad I wasn’t wrong about you. If you’re up this way before you go please get in touch.
Do me a favour, read what you can about Pope Pius XII and the X Report/X Operation.
I asked a couple of days ago if anybody had ever heard of it, I never got any replies.
It is not a religious thing, if it is true, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, it sort of raises questions about the motives of many people.
You have an opinion, and your called an Anti Semite? Wow! Bit harsh,
Joe Cundy:
I have no hate for Jews, none at all, but if you ever get the time, and the inclination, read what they did to Germans after the war was over; then tell me who treated who the worse, the Nazis/SS and their followers against the Jews, or the Jews on the Germans?
If you’ve never taken the time to read the post war history, please don’t reply.
79 caps
I don`t know about STV but the BBC commentator called it ` marginal`. ie He was onside but he couldn`t bring himself to say so !
JJ
GCT
Great wee story. Sorry to hear of your loss. Condolences and strength at this time.
i remember the great days stuffing the zombies.this site was a joy.now its all about politics and arguing amongst themselves.boring boring boring.its a football site.at least on hun sites they talk about their team.chuckked it and wont be back.enjoy ur backbiting.
Kitalba
I liked that point about not truly believing something if you wouldn`t put your house on it.
It involves the same principal as attempting to settle an argument in the pub by offering a bet on the subject.
JJ
Hollyjude?
Really?
Classy stuff.
GCT
My condolences to you on the loss of your brother Gerry. May he RIP and may you have a safe flight home.
Jimbo67 supporting Oscar Knox
JJ
Pissed me off too, I had a tenner on him @3/1 for the first goal,
first of the gang to die
Your post was not about football either 0:-)
JJ
Jungle Jim:
Sort of agree, but let me tell you this, I have pub betted in the past, and paid out too.
FAVOURITE UNCLE
18:01 on 24 March, 2014
Jungle Jim
17:49 on 24 March, 2014
Zaluska
Fisher Fraser Mulgrew BARR??
Kayal Henderson Biton Twardjik
Griffiths Stokes
sorry should be BARR{C}
TD67
I really fancied him for a hat-trick but was distracted as I was about to put my bet on online so didn`t get round to it. He certainly could have had at least three. I think he is a cert to be the Premier League`s top scorer next season. 40 goals is not beyond him.
JJ
Favourite Uncle
Quite right ,too.
NaturalleaderofmenCSC
Tom, great post about the Leeds Semi Final and Gerry’s first Celtic game.
What a way to start!!!!!!!
Magic.
TootingTim supports Wee Oscar
09:34 on 25 March, 2014
Hollyjude?
Really?
Classy stuff.
Yes. Really.
vaya con dios