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1. Doc on 25th March 2014 9:48 am

   Lenny on SSN now
2. Doc on 25th March 2014 9:53 am

   They actually only want to talk to him to find out when he is leaving Celtic for a Championship job, or to confirm he misses the Hun.

    

    

   He dealt with the questions fine.
3. praecepta on 25th March 2014 9:56 am

   Why is a football spherical?

    

    

   When did it stop being referred to as a bladder?

    

    

   Discuss!
4. tonydonnelly67 on 25th March 2014 9:57 am

   JJ

    

    

   As I was standing in line at Celtic park waiting to get my bet on, I noticed on the betting sheet another bet, Leigh to score at any time with a Celtic win, was 10/11 I should have bet that, but my line was made out and it was a min before KO, I’ll be looking at that bet for Sat.
5. monteblanco on 25th March 2014 10:01 am

   What would chairs look like if your knees bent the other way?
7. leftclicktic We are all Neil Lennon on 25th March 2014 10:01 am

   praecepta

    

   When we were dragged in from playing football for the night my brother and I spent the rest of the evening kicking the “bladder” from one end of the lobby to the other , I can smell the rubber as I type and it was over 45 years ago:)))).
8. BigChipsUK - There are only two SPL teams in Glasgow... Celtic and Partick Thistle on 25th March 2014 10:02 am

   praecepta (09:56): “Why is a football spherical?”

    

    

   Because, as any tax cheat will tell you, what goes around comes around.

    

    

   If they were still referred to as bladders that would open up a whole new field of wordplay.
9. leftclicktic We are all Neil Lennon on 25th March 2014 10:04 am

   monteblanco

    

   10:01 on

    

   25 March, 2014

    

   What would chairs look like if your knees bent the other way?

    

   ————-

    

   Now that was a laugh out loud moment:))

    

   thank you for making me fold:))))))))

    

   Mentalpicturecsc
10. johann murdoch on 25th March 2014 10:04 am

    monteblanco

     

    10:01 on

     

    25 March, 2014

     

    What would chairs look like if your knees bent the other way?

     

    ———————–

     

    Beds?:)
11. Beebawbabbity on 25th March 2014 10:05 am

    Although it is a football blog,discussion about politics can be interesting and educational………except when the view proffered is a cut and paste job with the sole purpose to make the author appear clever followed by denigrating any poster who has a different view….you know the culprits well. In order to get a non plagiarised view of current politics,I tried an original question 2 months ago,to no avail,regarding leadership of the Labour Party.

     

    Regardless of your political persuasion, who do you believe has the proper credentials to lead at a) Scottish level and b) UK level. I ask this as all points regarding SNP and Tory appear to be pretty negative,that’s an easy cop out.

     

    I am guessing there are lots of Labourites out there and I would genuinely welcome answers to the above question less I lose the desire to once again vote for Labour as I have done for a very long time.

     

    So, all you political heavyweights……..enlighten me!

     

     

     

    BBB
12. John O'Neil on 25th March 2014 10:07 am

    Good morning everybody.

     

     

    Some responses to people.

     

     

    Neganon,

     

     

    Greetings. When are we going to agree on something? As my arguments have not persuaded you, I shall try not to bore you with them again. They are boring me now. One last point though, if Scottish Catholics are under such a threat from a yes vote then why has the Catholic Church not advised her followers to leave? Take care Neganon,

     

     

    67Heaven,

     

     

    Actually, given the choice, I would vote no in the vote. So we agree.

     

     

    Ernie,

     

     

    Some fair points from you. I would be interested to know, not for any political reasons, which books you have read from those authors. If you can be bothered, let me know your impressions of them.

     

     

    Singing Detective,

     

     

    I did not say that you denied the Holocaust.
13. tonydonnelly67 on 25th March 2014 10:07 am

    You know your in the aulder crowd when you remember games that they had to stop, to put the dicky back in the baw, ;)
14. kitalba on 25th March 2014 10:14 am

    So de Valera signs a book of condonlences and the world pukes up America and Britain attack a defenceless city shrouded in Red Crosses and populated by hundreds of thousands of refugees and war wounded and the create a hell on earth and some CQNers applaud them and call others nutters.

     

     

    Thank God the IRA never had 6, never mind 600, Lancaster Bombers.

     

     

    After all, a wars a war for all that. Or is it only a war when the oppressor decides it is?

     

     

    Coutesty of The United States Army’s Center of Military History.

     

     

     

    Dresden

     

     

    In the meantime Bomber Command maintained its support of British ground forces by conducting area attacks on Munich-Gladbach and Mainz. On the same night, 1 February, the command struck the cities and marshalling yards of Siegen and Ludwigshafen using area techniques. All four attacks carried 30 percent or more incendiaries. Harris had supplied tactical support to the British army before and would do so again. These attacks came at the direct request of the army.

     

     

    Of the 24 joint attacks on the cities and marshalling yards on Bomber Command’s books, four occurred in December 1944 before the German

     

    Counteroffensive and the remaining 20 took place in February 1945. Does the command’s designation of these raids imply that they were instigated at higher levels (the air staff and the prime minister) or simply that they belonged to an aspect of the transportation campaign applied to eastern Germany?

     

     

    The command hit the yards and cities of Wiesbaden on the night of 2 February,

     

    and Bonn on 4 February with high percentages of incendiaries. Also on the night of 2 February, the command conducted a regular area attack on Karlsruhe, dropping 1,325 tons of explosives—two-thirds of them incendiaries.

     

     

    On 8 February the command attacked the yards at Hohenbudberg at the army’s request; it employed no incendiaries other than marking bombs. Harris

     

    kept up a steady effort on oil for the month, launching 22 attacks and expending almost 30 percent of his sorties and tonnage against oil facilities.

     

     

    Harris had not forgotten his pleas of November 1944 to be allowed to strike Chemnitz, Leipzig, and Dresden, in lieu of oil.60 Furthermore, the amended strategic directive of 31 January 1945 explicitly authorized him to hit those cities when practicable. With the demise of the German night fighter force only the weather protected those cities from Allied bombers.

     

     

    On 6 February the Eighth attempted to attack oil targets only to find clouds over the synthetic plants, which meant that more than 1,300 bombers hit targets of opportunity or secondary targets, including more than 400 each on the Chemnitz and Magdeburg marshalling yards. On 9 February another 1,300-plane mission against the same targets was again thwarted by the weather.

     

     

    Two hundred fifty bombers struck their secondary target, the Magdeburg rail yards, while others struck targets of opportunity. On 13 February USSTAF called the Eighth to report that the weather would be “beautiful” over Dresden and Chemnitz.

     

     

    The Eighth drew up three plans: Plan A—in case of marginal weather, a short mission over western Germany; Plan B—the 1st and 3d Air Divisions to bomb Dresden and the 2d Division to bomb Chemnitz (after these cities’ names, the planners noted, “Beat’ em up”); and Plan C—the 1st and 3d Air Divisions to bomb Dresden and the 2d Division to bomb transport and jet targets in central Germany in case it could not climb over the clouds to eastern Germany.

     

     

    After postponing the attack for 24 hours because of the weather, 1,377 B-17s and B-24s set out on 14 February to bomb the city of Dresden, marshalling yards in Magdeburg, and Chemnitz.

     

     

    Three hundred eleven B-17s of the 1st Air Division, using visually assisted H2X, dropped 771 tons of bombs (including 294 tons of incendiaries) on Dresden.62 The orders issued by the 1st Division to its bombers clearly defined mission objectives:

     

     

    • Primary Target-Visual: Center of built-up area Dresden.

     

     

    • Secondary Targets: Visual-M/Y Chemnitz, H2X. Center of Dresden.

     

     

    • Last Resort: Any military objective positively identified as being in

     

    Germany and east of the current bomb line.

     

     

    The 1 AD was escorted by 281 P-51s. The fighters had permission “to strafe rail and road transportation on withdrawal if no enemy aircraft had been encountered.”

     

     

    Several eyewitnesses in Dresden never even noticed the American bombs.65 Harris and Bomber Command had beaten the 1st AD to the punch. On the previous night, 13 February, Bomber Command Lancasters, in a two-wave attack of 772 bombers, released 2,646 tons of bombs, including 1,181 tons of incendiaries, into the very heart of the city and its marshalling yards. Much of

     

    Dresden’s antiaircraft defence, including almost all the heavy guns capable of reaching high altitudes, had been moved to serve as antitank units on the eastern front or to supplement flak defences at points hit more often by the Allies. Thus, the British and American raids met no opposition. The British, in particular, benefited from the lack of interference because their airborne

     

    controller could bring his planes in undisturbed and direct them to drop their bomb loads in a newly developed fan-shaped pattern that maximized the coverage and effect of incendiary bombs. Unlike Hamburg, the RAF intended to create a firestorm from the beginning. The first wave of Lancasters carried the

     

    greatest weight of incendiaries. Their attack ignited the dry medieval center of the city like a huge torch. The second wave carried a larger proportion of high explosives to kill fire-fighters and disrupt fire-control efforts. The RAF conducted a technically perfect fire-raising attack on the city.

     

     

    By early morning on 14 February, Ash Wednesday, a firestorm engulfed the middle of Dresden, causing staggering loss of life.

     

     

    Estimates of the death toll range from a low of 35,000, now accepted

     

    as the best guess, to a high of 250,000.

     

     

    No one will ever know the exact figure with certainty, because Silesian refugees, evacuees from other bombed cities, slave labourers, and other displaced persons had jammed into the city, which previously had been almost untouched by Allied bombing. Few of the city’s residents and recent arrivals had ever experienced a major bombing attack. They had little idea of how to protect themselves.

     

     

    The 311 American B-17s, which, for this mission, carried approximately the same percentage of firebombs as the Lancasters, attacked at 1223 hours. After releasing 771 tons of ordnance, the crews reported a low-lying haze of smoke that prevented them from seeing the bombs fall. Nevertheless, immediate

     

    postraid analysis of strike photos taken by the attacking bombers indicated “that the majority of the bombs dropped fell into heavily built-up areas of the city” and stated damage to the city should be severe.”

     

     

    Other units of the 1st Air Division lost their way and failed to reach Dresden. In their zeal to complete the mission, they misidentified several Czech cities as their targets. Sixty B-17s dropped 153 tons into the center of Prague while 25 attacked Brux and 12 struck Pilsen. Bombers of the 3d Air Division also wandered into Czechoslovakia. Thirty-eight of its B-17s attacked the town of Eger, and 24 more hit Tachau. In all the Eighth dropped 397 tons on Czech territory. The 2d and 3d Air Divisions had orders to attack marshalling yards with no mention of city areas; they made “area like” attacks that day.

     

     

    However, the 2 AD did hit one of the desired targets, the Buckau marshalling yard at Magdeburg, with 333 B-24s carrying 799 tons (31 percent incendiaries), and some of the 3d Division struck the Chemnitz marshalling yard with 306 B-17s carrying 747 tons (27 percent incendiaries). Both attacks used radar assisted sighting.

     

     

    The next day at the weekly conference of air commanders, Doolittle reported that in Dresden “the fires lit by Bomber Command the previous night had been rekindled,” and, he noted with “greatest reticence” because of the expanse of the devastation, that the smoke had risen to 15,000 feet.69 That same day 210 B-17s, unable to bomb their primary target— the synthetic oil plant at Ruhland—diverted to their secondary target, “military installations, [at Dresden].”70 The Eighth had never used “military installations” as a description for a target in Germany before this mission nor would it do so again.

     

     

    Eighth Air Force records supply no information as to which specific military installations were located within Dresden or how a raid dropping bombs through clouds could be expected to hit them. Using H2X, the 1st Division’s bombers dropped 461 tons of bombs, all high explosives, on the stricken city.

     

     

    For the month of February 1945, the Americans had flown 521 heavy-bomber sorties and dropped 1,232 tons of bombs on Dresden in February 1945. Their bombs mattered little, for the RAF had already virtually levelled the city. As a result of these raids, the AAF official history, relying in part on immediate

     

    post mission aerial photography, stated, “if casualties were exceptionally

     

    high and damage to residential areas great, it was also evident that the city’s industrial and transportation establishments had been blotted out.”72 Harris expressed his assessments less matter of factly. “Dresden was a mass of munitions works, an intact government centre, and a key transportation

     

    point to the east. Now it is none of those things.

     

     

    The Dresden raids, like earlier missions against Berlin, evoked bitter accusations of terror bombing from the German propaganda machine and strong reaction in the neutral press.

     

     

    A 17 February broadcast by the German Overseas Service in English for North America awarded Spaatz the “Order of the White Feather” for “acts of exceptional cowardice in bombing German cities filled with pitiful refugees.”
15. The Token Tim on 25th March 2014 10:14 am

    Gold Coast Tom,

     

     

    Sincere condolences on the loss of your brother Gerry.

     

     

    My thoughts and prayers with you and your family.

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token
16. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on 25th March 2014 10:15 am

    CHRIS TOREY

     

     

    I will take your well-meant advice to read more.

     

     

    But I will try to avoid the sources of your educated mind.
18. John O'Neil on 25th March 2014 10:16 am

    Chris Torey,

     

     

    You are at least honest enough to be open about your hatred of Jews which is more than can be said for others of your persuasion. Having said that, your hatred is vile.
19. up_over_goal on 25th March 2014 10:16 am

    Scott Brown on his highlight of season: “Motherwell away, we did really well. It was 5-0 & whole team were outstanding from start to finish.”

     

     

    Got to say, I agree with this. Don’t think I’ve ever seen Neil Lennnon’s Celtic play better.
20. bournesouprecipe on 25th March 2014 10:18 am

    An if you know your Chris Torey
21. John O'Neil on 25th March 2014 10:19 am

    Tom,

     

     

    Condolences to you.
22. Turkeybhoy on 25th March 2014 10:19 am

    Kayal33

     

    06:05 on

     

    25 March, 2014

     

    I see the Lying King mouthing off to the laptop loyal again now that he’s back to the safety of South Africa. £50m investment, £30m from him, £5m war chest for Steakbake to win the Championship. Ra berrs will be lapping it up, stupid zombies!!

     

     

    You would think that the intrepid reporter would have asked him just how he intended to infuse his beloved club with this windfall of cash.Maybe leave a suitcase at the front door?.

     

    It has become obvious that the ruling board have no intention of diluting their holding,nor any of the “Big hitters”from the city.The end result is there is no way King can get anywhere near bringing his fantasies to fruition.

     

    Sometimes even after all we have heard and read from our MSM,their sheer basic ineptness at their profession is jaw dropping.
23. jc2 on 25th March 2014 10:20 am

    79 Caps

     

     

    Along the lines of Yes Leigh was onside but its his fault for playing on the shoulder of last defender.

     

     

    Also showed VVD goal which had a couple of Celtic players well offisde. No arguments

     

     

    Summary One correct decision and one wrong…..

     

    Basically “These things balance themselves out”

     

     

    or maybe I am paranoid.
24. kitalba on 25th March 2014 10:21 am

    John O’Neil:

     

     

    I have seen filth on here and I have seen scum, and now I’ve read you.
25. BigChipsUK - There are only two SPL teams in Glasgow... Celtic and Partick Thistle on 25th March 2014 10:26 am

    jc2, indeed. They would have “evened themselves out” had VVD’s “goal” been allowed to stand.
26. bournesouprecipe on 25th March 2014 10:26 am

    monteblanco

     

     

    And why exactly did Queen Anne need so many?
27. a light insanity on 25th March 2014 10:28 am

    As much as I find some of the political stuff on here “illuminating” I agree with beebawbabbity that c and p from sources which then have to be verified by readers to ascertain their leaning makes me want to scroll by.

     

     

    On a side note my brilliant father passed away the other day. He won’t need prayers to get him to heaven.
29. BigChipsUK - There are only two SPL teams in Glasgow... Celtic and Partick Thistle on 25th March 2014 10:28 am

    …let’s hope we don’t lose the league title by a single goal on GD.

     

     

    Oh yes, those days are gone… so the “honest” mistakes don’t matter. Apparently.
30. jc2 on 25th March 2014 10:30 am

    BiGChips

     

     

    I know reasoning by bonkers theorem
31. bournesouprecipe on 25th March 2014 10:32 am

    For Motherwell born billionaire read Castlemilk born businessman.

     

     

    Yawnsovercornflakes CSC
32. Coneybhoy on 25th March 2014 10:36 am

    A Light Insanity

     

     

    Sorry to hear of your loss, sound like you had a great relationship with your Dad
33. tonydonnelly67 on 25th March 2014 10:40 am

    turkeybhoy

     

     

    The lying king came over here with one purpose, to see the deeds, and to find out who owns thems, he got bitch slapped back to SA where he normally does the “I’m the saviour of this club” he’s a nut sack, but he better not fall asleep on this one, because, allegedly that Italian guy in Leeds is coming up here to have a goosy at thems to see what the Hampden roar is, and that will be after he attends 10 o’clock mass at the cathedral, allegedly
34. timbhoy2 on 25th March 2014 10:42 am

    Jim Sillars pity he wasn’t 20 yrs younger,would have made a good First Minister.as for them 3 from the BBC ,well I think they are for the no campaign,Isobel Fraser thought she had left the bbc, but no like her husband Douglas its to cushy of a job to leave,and that’s one of the reasons that people like them will be in with no vote, they if we get indepedince will get the bullet,as for Galloway if that’s being a socialist ,god help us.,
35. leftclicktic We are all Neil Lennon on 25th March 2014 10:51 am

    tonydonnelly67

     

    It would be interesting nae hilarious to see how the SMSM would report on any interest in the carcass from Massimo Cellino.
36. bognorbhoy oscar in my thoughts/ support the dam 5/we are all neil lennon on 25th March 2014 10:53 am

    top six after split fixtures,assuming even 2 home 2 away level playing field over the season

     

    celtic should have in no particular order:

     

     

    aberdeen home

     

    motherwell away

     

    dundee utd home

     

    inverness away

     

    st johnstone away

     

     

    only 2 games to choose from for a visit to celtic park…..
37. Parkheadcumsalford on 25th March 2014 10:54 am

    A belated good morning to all. Has King committed himself to the deid team financially or is it still talk, talk and nothing but talk?
38. bognorbhoy oscar in my thoughts/ support the dam 5/we are all neil lennon on 25th March 2014 10:54 am

    a light insanity

     

     

    condolences to you and yours

     

     

    H.H.
40. John O'Neil on 25th March 2014 10:56 am

    Best wishes to a light insanity.
41. FAVOURITE UNCLE on 25th March 2014 10:59 am

    a light insanity .

     

     

     

    WEE PRAYER SAID FOR YOUR FAMILY.
42. bournesouprecipe on 25th March 2014 10:59 am

    Bare footed bears?